#Sexist as FUCK

[vaginatard]

me, a renowned poly hater, would ONLY allow polyamory in the rare case where I (a girl) has two, loving boyfriends who are loyal to me (and maybe the occasional threesome).

[visenyaism]

no you're being terfy for trying to shame women who DO want to be feminine and cutesy, we're still women even if we're not your perception of women

Explain to me how it is transphobic to say that you should not joke about how you are bad at math because you are a girl because that is misogynistic. Actually, explain to me why it’s cutesy to say that girls are bad at math. How is it feminine to say that girls are bad at math. How is that particular message factoring into your gender presentation. What is feminine or cutesy about thinking women are worse at any implied skill than men like either the skill level or the gender are immutable absolutes. What is going on

[taliabhattwrites]

On Transmisogyny, Feminism, and the Myth of the 'Baeddel'

This will go well.

[stormyromance]

Let me tell you I was beyond disappointed after leaving christianity and going to "alternative" spirituality to learn that "alternative" spiritual teachers believe a lot of the same crap about sexist gender roles that the christians do.

[trash-and-trash-accessories]

This idea I've been reading that queer people are separated into Men, Women, and Freaks. Freaks being the worst one, of course. And that those assigned female can only be put back into "Women" while those assigned male can be "Men" and "Freaks" reminds me of some wildly misogynistic beliefs a lot of gay men would say to my face in the 2000s. Essentially they believed that female sexuality could never be transgressive or even really queer, because women weren't capable of being transgressive. Women couldn't be queer. They couldn't be faggots. No one was beating them up for their sexuality like they were gay men, you see. Their sexuality wasn't as hated because it wasn't really transgressive, or frightening to the establishment, therefore they weren't really oppressed the way gay men were, because they weren't really faggots, you see. They were and would always be, Just Women.

It was wildly misogynistic and a total misunderstanding of queerness and of the way female sexual and gender transgression has been oppressed. It erased the violence against queer women, which is pervasive today and definitely was back then.

I had experienced violence for my queerness. I'd seen a lot of women experience violence for their queerness. Corrective rape happened to people I knew. Their fathers, uncles, classmates. When my sister came out my mom slapped her so hard she fell. I'd been chased, harassed, and hit for my own relationships with women. And all of that was being erased with this rhetoric of "it's safer for women to be queer." And "women have it easier." "Lesbianism is acceptable in a way gay men are not." The violence enacted on us, the beating, the rape, the murder was all being erased while it was being enacted on us. We were told we didn't need solidarity, we didn't need activism because the things that were happening to us weren't happening to us and everything was fine, actually.

And this new rhetoric, while different, because it's about trans issues, is extremely familiar. It's basically the same exact rhetoric applied differently. And it's wildly sexist, just like the previous rhetoric. It doesn't bother looking into the actual experience of the people it's theorizing about. Because they're just silly women birthday boys after all, they couldn't possibly have anything worthwhile to say about their own lives.

And I'm tired of this critique being read as terf rhetoric or misgendering trans men. I can see what's happening, and all of this deflecting and gaslighting doesn't hide it. It's exactly the same rhetoric from the same kinds of people, people who don't respect people who were assigned female and don't see them as fully human, and capable of transgression. Who don't believe them when they say they are experiencing violence. Who think they are all liars with victim complexes who make things up for attention. This is just plain as day sexism barely veiled in progressive rhetoric. Same as it always was. And I'm fucking tired of it.

[punkeropercyjackson]

Zutara purists:What girl didn't have a crush on Zuko as a kid lmao?

Lesbian Atla fans,female aroace Atla fans,fem Atla fans who hated Zuko as a kid and had grow into him and fem Atla fans who had crushes on Aang/Sokka/Jet/literally any other Atla guy:

[fatalism-and-villainy]

We watched Doctor Bashir I Presume the other night and jesus christ I forgot how much this episode makes me want to rip things apart with my teeth on Bashir's behalf

[orions-hound]

ily tfp airachnid btw absolutely nailed female antagonist. they didnt hold back on her being just absolutely insane. nuts out of her mind and unabashedly selfish. her attractive appearance is never used to objectify her and instead she is just a weird terrible fucking freak underneath it all. 10/10

[heuffopla]

A little advice for new tumblr users who may be perceived as even just a lil bit feminine by others and who would like to post selfies. Do NOT use any of the usual selfie tags like "selfie" or "OOTD" or whatever because there are weird people checking those tags and they WILL message you weird shit without your consent.

Instead I'd recommend just having a fun lil tag that you made up like "I look very cool yay" something fun just for you if you want to find your pictures again later.

Trust me, your selfies will not go viral on tumblr.com, do not use the usual tags.

[ophanstears]

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I know that Clover's gender is up to interpretation (the devs DID say so themselves) but I still feel weird when people make them exclusively male or female LOL Like it's TECHNICALLY fine??? but it leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

more in tags as usual because I am a yapper. i am so sorry for having strong opinions about gender and representation. i am usually more fun than this 🥲🥲🥲🥲

[butwhatifidothis]

I guess the ultimate thing that kills CF for me - or at least nudges it away from me saying I definitively like it - is just how much Edelgard is clearly written with the player in mind before she's written with her character in mind.

Because on all of the other routes, there's a power to Edelgard's presence. Even on BE, there's a sense that for as lonely as Edelgard might be, she still ultimately will do whatever it takes for her to get what she wants. Be that be killing her citizens (or otherwise letting them be killed), endangering her friends, assisting in kidnapping people, allowing Byleth to support her only when they have the Sword of the Creator, covering for TWS - no bar is too low for her to limbo under if doing so means she's even a step closer to her goals.

She's manipulative! She's deceitful! She doesn't care for the lives of her people! Even her friends are forfeit if they try to stand in her way! And this happens no matter how close you, the player, get to her, in the case of BE - C+ ain't stoppin' Remire, and going to the coronation ain't stopping the Holy Tomb.

And in the war phase, she is dominating the field. She has the Kingdom completely on the ropes, down to a few houses standing against Imperial rule, and the Alliance is stuck in neutrality - she may not be able to do much to it, but neither can they do anything to her (to say nothing of the Alliance houses who stand with her). She's far from the underdog in this race, and she shows off how threatening she can be.

CF? Her route?

She scweams at scawy rats. She gets embawwassed when you find her dwawings. She's just so wonewy, and she's just so gwad that you chose her. She somehow fails to capture Rhea, or frame Dimitri for regicide, and so now has to deal with that on the Kingdom's side of the war. But that doesn't stop Elly Welly-kins fwom twying to find her pwecious teacher, because you're just so important to her. She cwies and hugs you when you meet her in the Goddess Tower!! Because she missed you so much!!

It's like... Dimitri and Claude certainly show different sides of themselves on their respective routes. It's the whole point! You grow closer to them and thus see how they treat those close to them, as opposed to being the Kinda Neat Teacher they see run along every now and then. But, like... Claude doesn't become a blushing maiden whenever Byleth speaks with him on VW. Dimitri doesn't scream at scary rats and get called cute for it on AM. They don't get Basic Bitch Gap Moe Traits slapped onto them that are only ever shown to the player and only on their routes. Unlike Edelgard.

Dimitri's endearing trait is that he's this big huge dude who can bench-press forests and arm-wrestle god who still wants to learn to sew and who teaches kids to protect themselves and who buys candies for his friends. Claude's endearing trait is that he's this mastermind planner who has contingency and lie and obfuscation as three separate legal government names who still wants everyone to be safe and happy and hold hands and be friends.

Edelgard is strong, confident, and willing to do some of the shittiest things known to man for her goals. Her endearing trait is that her screams are cute. She's shy about her drawings of the player character. She blushes over the player potentially joking about having sex with her per her JPN version of her C support; you know, the one about how Byleth walks in on Edelgard muttering in her sleep from a nightmare about her tortured family? Perfect time to joke about fucking her! Dimitri and Claude's endearments are, well, endearing; Edelgard's are all straight up embarrassing for her.

Hell, even the smaller stuff is affected! Claude's passion for poisons and mushrooms are things he has no qualms about having others know about, despite how weird they are. Dimitri laughing at shitty jokes brings him no personal discomfort or embarrassment, despite just how loudly he laughs at them. They have traits to them that can easily be uwu worthy, and they don't care! Of the lords, only Edelgard does! Because, it feels like, the only way for a strong, resolute female character to come off as approachable is if she's knocked down a few pegs for specifically and only you, the player.

And that sucks ass! I'm sorry, but when I'm playing Edelgard's route I don't want to deal with her hiding herself away in her room for a month IN THE MIDDLE OF HER FUCKING WAR because she's just so embawwassed! It is so fucking insensitive that Edelgard is literally the only lord of the three who can have her trauma openly belittled at any point in the story by Byleth, all to have some cheap cutesy uwu moment about her fear of rats (calling her screaming in fear cute and INSISTING that it's really cute which is just. Fucking ew man)! Why can we fucking mock Edelgard's manner of speech during the MASSACRE OF REMIRE?

This shit doesn't happen to Claude or Dimitri! And saying "oh just don't pick those options then" is bullshit because no equivalent options exist for the male lords! It's piss-boilingly annoying that the second you choose to see things from the strong confident villainous ambitious female lord's perspective you can reduce her down to this bumbling moeblob just for you (sometimes unavoidably!) like!! Dude!

[huenistar]

sooo theres only 2 options now [REDACTED] or shift 😂😂😂😂😂

and this is just another case of sexism and racism!!! i know damn well if kamala harris was a white man she would’ve won.

[m-a-d-e-l-e-i-n-e]

More than anything right now I’m just so angry that HE’S STILL FUCKING HERE after eight years and three terms and so many people would take him as president even though he’s been impeached twice is a 34x convicted felon is a racist rapist misogynist pedophile abuser piece of shit who is absolutely not fit to control an entire fucking country I fucking hate Trump and I fucking hate his supporters and anyone who defends anything he does GO AWAYYYY

[purrincess-chat]

Cat's thoughts on the state of the fandom

(So take them for what you will)

Saw an interesting take yesterday about the people genuinely complaining that Adrien looks ugly in the new animation and how his character is "ruined," and the take was about how a lot of people in the fandom are the same as people in the show, boiling Adrien’s character down to his appearance and only valuing him for his appearance. And it got me thinking because, in another vein, I've personally seen a lot of people in fandom over the years infantalizing him as being a poor sad cute little meow meow, and when Marinette does anything but pity him for being a poor sad cute little meow meow she's nasty and awful and just as bad and abusive as his father (🤢). But I wonder at what point does the fandom allow him to have autonomy and think and feel for himself? At what point do we recognize his depth? He's a character with a lot of nuance and backstory, and in this new season especially, for the first time he is capable of making his own decisions without anyone forcing his hand now that he has his amok. S6 is for all intents and purposes a blank slate for him. He can finally figure out what he wants to do with his life outside of just being in a relationship or doing what his parents want. And personally I'm curious how they will develop him this season now that he does have that freedom. But maybe I have just always seen him as more than just a pretty face. 🤷‍♀️

Fandom is so quick to denounce change, including change they've begged for. We begged for seasons for an end to the will they/won't they aspect of the love square and for development to happen. Development happened, and now in the eyes of many, the show is completely ruined. Now they want to go back to what we had. Now they want them to break up. Now Marinette is horrible and awful and undeserving of Adrien, but for some reason, being with Chat Noir is perfectly okay and fine and not at all different. Because in their eyes, the narrative lives to serve Adrien and Adrien only. And if the narrative isn't serving Adrien, then it's bad.

I even consider the response to the salt this go around in comparison to salt in early s3. Back when people (including myself) felt that Marinette was being slighted by the narrative, we were looked down on and salt was treated as taboo. Now that people feel like Adrien is being slighted by the narrative, well, suddenly now it's different and okay and no, no we aren't like those other icky salters from before. We love the show. We just are disappointed in it. And as someone who was part of the s3 salt movement (and who wrote probably one of the most famous salt fics during that period), I can say that the people salting on the show now are no different than we were back in s3. Everyone I knew back then started out loving the show. We all loved the characters and the world. But the writers made certain decisions that we didn't quite like at the time, so we gathered to talk about it. We made salt blogs and wrote fic and vented in discords and blog posts. And overtime, some of that eventually spiraled into what it became, and I'm not going to argue that some people went too far. But I see all of the exact same things happening now, and people are insisting that it's different, but it isn't. Instead of 'Marinette changes schools bc her classmates would rather believe a lie than trust their friend', it's 'Adrien and Marinette break up because she's keeping secrets and is awful and doesn't deserve him/we don't like that they were the ones to get together instead of our favorite side. 😤' And in a way, I can't help but notice the undertones of sexism in these arguments. Why are people who defend Marinette icky and wrong and gross, but people who defend Adrien are champions of justice? Haters with "hearts of gold" as it were. Salt is salt. Hate to be the bearer of bad news. It's not different. Just slapped a new label on the same old shit. But this fandom has always had sexist undertones in my experience.

Why when Marinette makes obvious narrative mistakes that the show is obviously setting up to be a source of conflict and character growth do people compare her to an abusive middle aged man? Why is it that in this episode Marinette needs to be sensitive to Adrien being orphaned when she herself has been traumatized over and over by the narrative? To a point that she desperately tries to control everything so her world doesn't fall apart around her again. Why is the fandom able to empathize with Adrien’s trauma and not Marinettes? Why is it that her trauma is downplayed and treated as lesser when we have watched her consistently break down and panic across the seasons? We've watched her exhaust herself and sacrifice her happiness for the fate of the world, but that doesn't matter as much as our poor little kitty cat. And I'm not interested in comparing their struggles or participating in the trauma Olympics because the truth of the matter is they've BOTH been through it. But I've been seeing a trend over the years but also a lot lately of villifying Marinette specifically for every single action she takes. Calling for her to be 'punished' and dumped by the boy she loves because she isn't ""deserving"" enough whatever that means.

Idk. I guess just I just wonder at what point do we just sit back and let the narrative unfold? I reached a point during my salt days when I looked around and saw nothing but bitching and moaning about the same old shit, and I had to ask myself if that was the view I wanted. And ultimately I determined that it wasn't, and then I had to make the decision over whether I wanted to continue watching the show and learn to enjoy it again or if I wanted to just be done. And I think a lot of people in this fandom would do well to ask themselves those same questions and decide. Because at this point I'm just tired of every post being filled with some kind of rancid take on how the show is ruined or Marinette is an awful person or they hope Adrinette breaks up because they were the "wrong" choice (*cough* "It's not my personal favorite side therefore I'm butthurt" *cough*).

Personally, I think we all need to adjust to the new animation and changes and let the story be told. People were so quick to immediately denounce Adrinette just because it wasn't the side they personally wanted to see get together, and instead of giving them a chance, they immediately took up pitchforks and started saying it was bad. But having watched s5 and now the start of s6 with my own two eyeballs, they've modeled a lot of important and healthy aspects of being in a relationship. Communication, patience, benefit of the doubt, meeting halfway, taking things slow, fighting for each other. And it's been sweet. It's not boring or bad. It might not be YOUR taste, but if that's the case, go watch something that IS to your taste. Why waste energy here? The truth is, we don't know what's in store for the rest of the show. We don't know why things had to happen the way they did yet, but as a writer who ya know writes stories, I think a lot of people just need to chill and watch what happens. Because this season just started. We've barely scratched the surface of the story moving forward. How can you honestly say it's bad? You don't know. New and different doesn't immediately mean bad. Change is not automatically harm. Take some deep breaths. Be patient.

I'm just tired. I just wanna watch two kids bumble around and hold hands and fight bad guys. Damn. Some of yall make fandom really un-fun. And I would like to petition to bring the fun back in, please.

[cursedvida]

Saw a tweet saying mae is the real villain with 23k likes and how noa will make her pay in the next one for her betrayal and is crazy bc the ones saying that are men! Like, them hating mae is misogyny at this point idc. bc what do they mean when they say they wanted noa to beat her to death???

Lots of fictional male characters share traits with mae (and have even done worse) actual villains are loved by them, but as soon as they see a woman not being the number one supporter of their male lead they lose it.

It's the same old story: morally questionable and complex gray characters are fan favorites as long as they're men. If the character is a woman and, on top of that, has the AUDACITY not to be the protagonist's number one supporter, unconditional girlfriend or caring mother then she's practically the reincarnation of Beelzebub.

Just yesterday Iwas thinking the same thing you mentioned because I was watching a bunch of Mae haters on TikTok, and it's no coincidence that THEY WERE ALL men, and precisely those who defended her were women. The hate was based on totally absurd arguments typical of someone with the argumentative comprehension capacity of an amoeba. Special mention to the macho of Reddit for having the same two malfunctioning neurons that lead them to hate Mae with zero coherence because then they are the biggest fans of Koba, for example, excusing his actions with the argument that "he suffered a lot because of humans" when, in fact, Mae has also suffered a lot because of the apes.

But in the end, it's as you say: the problem isn't the actions but the character's gender. Women in fiction are relegated to being lovers, unconditional friends or self-sacrificing mothers. Anyone who deviates from that role, especially in such male-dominated franchises, is condemned to bear all the male misogyny of the internet.

[shaxza]