#Oh the discourse

[theanoninyourinbox]

BRUH I HAD THE WEIRDEST DREAM LAST NIGHT!

So the Warriors animation was coming out, and there was a leaked pic of the PO3 designs and

Everyone lost their goldurn minds in the Discourse

points I can remember arguments about: Why are their noses a different color that their ears, why is Holly a tabby, a full blown fight about mollies with beards, why is Lion BROWN, someone else saying Lion was grey and getting doxxed over it, why do the boys have HAIR, why does Lion have GIRLY EYELASHES and people arguing that eyelashes aren’t gendered, just a slew of howling about Lion’s weird anime hair, why is Jay so round, someone asking why Lion has a scar and the chat screaming ASHFUR YOU TWIT, if Jay had eyes or not, and on and on

and then the Erins dropped that they were rewriting the whole series from the Po3 arc and that Holly WAS a Prophecy cat

and my computer exploded from all the discourse

[proxissima]

[animalceramics]

[catofoldstones]

we already have people bitching about how “i can’t stand Chani, she’s so annoying 🙄” and “Paul chose Chani to be the mother of his children, Irulan is just at the sidelines eating dust as she should”, like brothers we cannot do this again. We can’t Chani v Irulan our way out of this one because the problem is Paul and the Empire. Gosh, we truly are never getting out of the patriarchy.

[casscainmainly]

So in Spirit World there's two separate panels that show Cass' family/loved ones. The first I think is more circulated:

The second is this one:

These line-ups are probably different due to space/convenience, but to overanalyse these panels for a bit, it's interesting who's present in which. Bruce, Steph, and Babs are present in both - makes sense, they're the most important figures in Cass' life. Steph is front and center in both, suggesting she really is Cass' favourite person ever.

Bruce is relatively big in the top panel, but much smaller in the bottom. The top panel explicitly is about "family," while the bottom is about people who "know and love you". Bruce becoming smaller suggests that Cass thinks of him as her dad, but the 'knowing' and 'loving' part isn't as secure for her. (This is probably not intentional but reflects their dynamic very well, particularly post-Cass being sent to HK and her unresolved feelings about that).

Babs is pretty big in both, and I love that she's Oracle here (the wheelchair in the bottom panel!!). This makes total sense - the time when Babs loved and cared for her most was when she was Oracle. Cass probably still sees and remembers her that way.

Onto the interesting stuff, which is Duke being missing for 'family' but present for 'know and love you'. I think he should be in the top panel, but maybe he's too new for Cass to consider him family? Everyone in the top panel is from the bg 2000 era, so Cass might think of that time as her true 'family'. Anyway, the fact he makes it into the bottom still shows they're close, and that Cass considers him someone who understands/'knows' her.

Dick and Tim being present for 'family' and missing for 'know and love you' is so fun. Tim maybe should be present in the bottom, but recent canon hasn't made them as close as they used to be (in BG 2000 and Red Robin). So they love each other, but not to the extent of anyone in the bottom panel; he's still definitively family though.

Dick is the same, but there's a lot more sibling rivalry and complicated feelings there. It makes total sense for Cass to see him as a brother, but to not think he 'knows' or 'loves' her all that much; they do get along, but I think they remember their mistakes with each other and think the other person still holds a grudge (they don't). Peak Dick-Cass dynamic to me!

So if I had to rank Cass' favourite people in the Batfam according to these panels, it'd be: 1. Steph 2. Babs 3. Bruce 4. Tim and/or Duke 5. Dick

[itwouldeatyoualive]

"billford is abusive" yeah. fucking obviously

here's the thing: literally no one is making content w the inherent idea that billford is a healthy relationship, or that they Should be together. but it is a genuinely interesting dynamic with tropes that have been enjoyed since literally forever: power imbalances, mortal/god, enemies/lovers etc. and part of the appeal of why their relationship is so interesting is delving into the underlying care/love between them. abusive relationships aren't constantly threatening or scary 24/7 - part of what makes them so easy to fall into is that you really do love and trust this person - which is a realistic portrayal!! the tragedy of it is an idea that has been loved for ages: watching a relationship grow and evolve, even knowing that it still ends badly!! it's interesting and heartbreaking and it is literally just basic antithesis.

this is like basic media literacy can we pleaaase be serious lmfao. it's fine if you don't fw the ship/dynamic but you don't have to come up with a moral high ground for it - and having a dynamic that is explicitly abusive, while also showing the victim to be able to heal with support, in mainstream kids media facilitates further recognition and discussion on abuse which is a good thing.

[rhad-barks]

how on earth are we still having aspec and mspec and neopronoun discourse it's almost 2024 do you guys understand that we need to embrace all sides of the queer community or the infighting will get us all killed. do you get that. lawmakers want all of us dead whether we're queers with palatable easy to understand identities or cishet alloaro men or he/him lesbians or genderfluid fagdykes with emojiself pronouns. in a world that's trying to erase us all we have is each other Do You Understand That. please be kind to people with identities you might not understand or agree with because they deserve to live freely as much as you do.

[haaam-guuuurl]

If I had a nickel for every time the idea of shooting out one giant sperm has been proposed on a Dropout show this year, I would have two nickels, which isn't a lot, but it's REALLY FUCKING WEIRD that it's happened twice.

[fixtheaxel]

She turned off reblogs so imma address it here.

NOT EVERYONE IS WHITE/WESTERN

YOU DUMBASS

When you mean 'societally acceptable', what you actually mean is

'normalised in western culture',

And that, was because of the 19th century dress reform movement. Also, overwhelmingly because it was a tool of feminist rebellion. Women were arrested en-masse, for wearing trousers in WW1, and yet they continued to do so, the clothing becoming an increasing point of protest, because before then, 'feminine' clothing, was extremely long skirt which were an actual danger to the female factory workers who were legally obligated to wear them.

The reason a similar movement did not be made for men, is because the male standard clothes were practical and not a legitimate physical danger. So the average man did not feel the need to protest these restrictions.

In fact men did not start using skirts/'feminine clothing' as a tool of rebellion en masse till the LGBT Rights movement.

On the other hand, feminine clothing has been GLOBALLY used as a TOOL OF OPPRESSION.

The modern day western world is one of the only places in World History, for perhaps all of human history, where men's clothing is more greatly monitored then women's. `

I will not mention the country where I am originally from because I feel like I've already said waaaaaay too much about myself online, and i'm paranoid.

But women and those AFAB are currently being shot dead in the streets of my country by morality police for- Not even wearing men's clothing- but just simply wearing SLIGHTLY TOO 'MASCULINE' (practical) CLOTHES.

So don't sit there in your fucking privilege and talk about how femininity in those AMAB is a more transgressive concept than masculinity in AFAB people.

Some of yall really need to learn about people outside your limited ass sphere

[hemipenal-system]

anyway. some of y’all really want the social dynamics between trans men and trans women to be the same as the ones between cis men and cis women and i’m sorry to be the one to tell you that is not how that shit works at all

[stolenkissesdiaz]

wdym shannon diaz said she needed a partner and someone to have her back and eddie never gave her that. it being one of the reasons she left. then for the next seven or so years, we see eddie having buck’s back and being his partner. like. since the day they met basically. wdym. heyyy lollll. what. the. fuck. do. you. mean.

[gray-ace-space]

recently encountered a post where someone said "gender is fluid but sexuality isn't". (they were talking about bi lesbians.)

my first thought was: does that person, like. hear what they're saying? how can you explicitly hold two beliefs that are so logically inconsistent and not see it? how can you simultaneously think gender is this fluid and complex thing, but sexuality, much of which is defined around gender, is simple and stationary and its boundaries need policing?

but like, fuck, why even argue against it, right? there is no internal logic because there is no logical thought behind it. these are not genuine beliefs. this person is repeating what is currently acceptable in their (small) specific social circle. this is the same person who, a few years back, would be excluding nonbinary lesbians, but nonbinary lesbians are cool and normal on queer tumblr now, so they'll exclude bi lesbians instead, and not even pause to reflect on the difference.

oh, and if you read this and thought "these people don't even actually accept nb lesbians either", ding ding ding! because it's not a real, deep belief, that acceptance is extremely shallow and conditional. so as soon as someone is an nb lesbian in a way these people find odd (like being both a man and a lesbian) they will exclude them too and find a way to justify it.

why do we have to endlessly go through this cycle with queer identities. can we not? can we just not. i'm tired.

[kenmarlenn]

Heads up, in case you've seen the VAs tweets.

I'm the one who informed Reed, Davis, and Kat about the whole situation with users [EDIT 9/1/24, 9:20PM EST: sending anonymous asks and making blogs] planning to send documents to the VAs to complain about harassment in response to the post [EDIT 9/1/24, 9:20PM EST: by Alex] about the harassment. I informed the VAs because I moderate for many of them, and for TSBS on Discord, so I wanted to be sure they were prepared and not confused if someone tried to message them. I also did it to ask what should be done about the topic being brought up on their Discords (as they are not involved in that situation/it is not relating to TSBS or their personal content, it will be removed).

Neither Alex, Ceph, Dana, Witchy, etc. interacted or sent them anything since they posted the documents - they said they're not interacting with the situation anymore, and they are sticking to that. Just so we are clear.

[hear-me-out-poll]

jk rowling

[tiredbitchposts]

I often feel like people forget that both Shen Yuan and Shen Jiu got fucked over in the transmitgation with Shen Yuan dying and being forced to live as someone to fix that person's mistakes and Shen Jiu being forced out of his body so someone could live his life better than he did. Both of them got the shit end of the deal, that's the whole point of it, Shen Yuan may have gotten his happy ending but he'll never be his own person and he's at the mercy of the system for the rest of his life and Shen Jiu never got a happy ending but now he'll never get tortured in the most cruel ways possible and live knowing he indirectly caused the death of the person he loved the most

[louferrignojrofficial]

you have one writer saying this….

and another saying this:

🙃