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Linguistics is descriptive, not prescriptive.
There is no ‘correct’ language or dialect. They all developed as part of the history of the people who speak them and should all be celebrated.
And phrases that are grammatically ‘incorrect’ are fine as long as they are able to be understood. And after a while they become part of the language and should be considered grammatical.
But I will still never accept ‘hence why’, it just makes me die inside. It’s just ‘hence’ or ‘that’s why’. You don’t need to ‘suffocation, no breathing’ your connectives.
I say ‘whose mug is that cup’, ‘there’s lovely’, and ‘now in a minute’ unironically. But I have a physically painful reaction to ‘hence why’.
Please tell me other people have common non-grammatical phrases that physically hurt them too.
#linguistics#language#Linguistics is descriptive#not prescriptive#Wenglish#welsh Dialect#if you do say hence why then I’m sorry#but we can’t be friends (this is sarcasm - I have many friends who say ‘Hence why’ specifically to annoy me)
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AND another thing. because it HAS NOT left me alone for the past 3 weeks and if i must scream into the void about it then So Be It absolutely none of you are overlooking this rincewind characterization on my watch.
because the thing is. say, all of thirty pages into the light fantastic, we get some trymon characterization. some early, establishing characterization. setting up this guy. the main antagonist, the other primary viewpoint character of this book (insofar as it can be said to have either of those things, given the style of narration). this guy. who is cold, selfish, ruthless, and obsessed with things like 。・:*:・゚★,。・:*:・゚☆ efficiency 。・:*:・゚★,。・:*:・゚☆. and. he’s bad at languages.
“He wasn’t very good at languages, he’d always found them highly inefficient things which by rights ought to be replaced by some sort of easily understood numerical system,”
and then we smashcut immediately to rincewind:
“Rincewind had a very good ear for languages.”
and yes, yes i will stand here and argue that this is in fact an EXTREMELY plot-relevant character detail, beyond the fact that it DOES have utility in the scene at hand. all joking aside about rincewind can scream for help in 47 languages, or however the line goes. i’m just.
points to this frantically.
rincewind, whose one EXTREMELY NOTABLE CANONICAL TALENT, is languages. who is being actively and immediately contrasted with trymon. this HAS been stuck in my head for three weeks but i opened my book to make this post and actually these scenes are LITERALLY back-to-back. these character descriptions are. immediately. directly juxtaposed to one another. and i want to say something about how this description of rincewind comes up because this is a skill he is actively using in the scene in question, that does give him insight into the world and does, perhaps even more importantly, allow him to connect with the gnome in this particular scene in a way that is helpful to him and twoflower, yes, but just. actually the only way i need to explain it is this:
we are told who trymon is, and that he is bad at languages.
we are told that rincewind is good at languages.
and, actually, without further elaboration, that says a whole fucking lot about who rincewind is.
#YOU CANNOT GET THESE CHARACTER DESCRIPTIONS PAST ME#I CAME HERE FROM THE SILM FANDOM#I CAME HERE FROM TOLKIEN. WHERE THE LINGUISTICS ARE EXTREMELY PLOT AND CHARACTER RELEVANT#PRATCHETT IS NOT SLICK FOR HANDING ME A LINGUIST#AND THAT CONTRAST DID NOT GET PAST ME#ROLLING UP MY SLEEVES AND DIGGING IN#IF I HAVE TO DO ALL THE RINCEWIND POSTING MYSELF THEN SO BE IT.#CANONICAL LINGUIST RINCEWIND LIVES RENTFREE IN MY HEAD AND IT WILL IN YOURS TOO IF I HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT IT#discworld#the paranoid android speaks!
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weird and only stp post but "the blade is your implement" fucks so hard as a sentence, the quasi-alliteration makes it both memorable and very pleasing to the ear and it's really good
#thoughts#slay the princess#the initial little paragraphs of description that return over and over all read very polished to me#you can really feel the work put into making it as structurally sound and streamlined and linguistically memorable as possible#I'm guessing Many Iterations Were Involved#but it does pay off
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Exam tomorrow so I drew this for myself instead of studying (don't worry i did the bulk of my studying yesterday but also send help i am having trouble concentrating on doing more)
ID: a sketch of Alhaitham from Genshin Impact, genderbent; her hair is done in a bun. She is looking down at the viewer, frowning and saying "Can you stop fucking around." End ID.
#my art#sketch#genshin impact#alhaitham#al haitham#image description#genderbend#cw genderbend#ms feeble scholar#<- my personal fem hthm tag#i'd mostly need this tomorrow in preparation for the day after (phonetics + phonology exam)#need to make one w ms selena too so i can have both my gacha linguists lending me their energy#have fem hthm of various flavors in my mind you can blame (affectionate) suwara for that
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#im so curious i know i have mutuals who fit this description#maybe i shouldve been a linguistics major like toral language acquisition interests me so much#i wish i could put more options but i already maxed them out..
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🪐 Philos Report 💫 Philosophian (Philosophers Language)
. ݁₊ ⊹ . ݁˖ . ݁⋆.˚✮🌟✮˚.⋆. ݁₊ ⊹ . ݁˖ . ݁
Philosophers, the humanoid lifeform who lived on the planet Philos, were known to speak Philosophian in many diverse dialects, experience nonverbal communication through their heightened senses and sang during their Bonding Rituals. Here are a few ways they expressed affection:
⭐ My Star (makes Xavier incredibly flustered and dizzy. Use with caution) | Tu’lipit’ossi
⭐ My Moon | Caesa Min
⭐ My Cosmos | Caesa Mile
⭐ I will fight for you | Gladiorte
⭐ I want to hug you | Mintiano
⭐ I want to kiss you | Sorrelissimo
⭐ Betrothed | Myriel
⭐ Will you marry me? | Yarropi’a nis sissimo
⭐ I am Within you | Tenut’o
(Mistaken as a literal translation, it is in fact Nonverbal. This is conveyed through the senses, specifically through hard touch and is meant to convey the endearment, "The person you see me to be is who I want to be most of all.")
⭐ You are my World | Brea Marcato
#stargazing#xavier love and deepspace#lads xavier#lads au#xavier headcanons#Lads Philos#this scratches the linguistic study nerd in me just right#i can't believe I had time to do this but here we are#digging into the alien boyfriend of Xavier's backstory because its important!#also i see the raf girls having fun with their sea god lore and i said i want some of that!#we talk about the spaceship so much in Xavier's plot but there's so much focus on his star and bunny motifs#that the alien stuff kinda gets lost in transmission#like yeah we go to a spaceship and its always mentioned but that's not enough for me to sink my teeth into girl i need more info on Philos#I need its agricultural state its weather how many suns do you see from the space you occupy#what was it like traveling to different planets!!! hunter mc hurry up and get your memories back girl sheesh#im trying to see what uluru our little planet got going on#I made the language up by blending the language of flowers with the language of music and literal sheet music note descriptions#so I think it’s easy to understand if you recognize music and/or flower language 😭#Philos!AU#Philosophian (Philos' Language)#otp:wishingonstars#otp: wishing on stars
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catch me working smarter not harder, sucker
Jokes on you, I learned 80% of the linguistics I know from reading grammars/random papers for the purpose of conlanging.
#only way to learn linguistics#seriously even in my grad program#my grasp of like... what the data looks like on the ground#is way above my peers who just did ling degrees#not to diss them or anything but#you don't learn ling in school you learn it from reading 42069 language descriptions
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Problem as a Venom writer that might be applicable to other people and other types of fic and ofic:
too few words for a symbiote's biomass and other structures.
I've got:
flesh/tissue/matter = biomass, biomatter (the one I have the most trouble with in writing)
blood & internal fluids = xenoplasm, protoplasm, plasmatic matrix, biofluid
body = soma, being
skin = membrane, dermis, dermal tissue
head = pseudohead, pseudocranial protrustion
limbs = pseudopods, tendrils, tentacles, extrusions
sensory systems = chemo/photo/thermo/mechano/electro/nocic/etc receptors/sensors
teeth = dentition (fangs and teeth seem fine to me still too)
and ones that are specific to my HCs:
bit that connects to host's brain = holdfast
bit that connects out of material world = threshhold
bit that connects threshhold to pocket dimension = gullet maybe?
Anyone else have any others?
#My Stuff#writing#xeno#xenobiology#venom#symbiote#symbiotes#klyntar#descriptions#descriptive words#words#alien#linguistics#fic#xenoanatomy#anatomy#alien anatomy
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My gf and I were talking about escalators and started wondering about the word "escalator" - why is it called that and why is there no opposite? Like, "to escalate" means to go up. So just going by the word, and "escalator" should not go down. Is there a matching word or has the English language just stuck with this one form?
#lingustics#asking all#linguists of tumblr#the german word once again is very descriptive here:#“rolling stairs”
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Big news, I'm reading parts of A Short Introduction to the Tiberian Masoretic Bible and its Reading Tradition (Geoffrey Khan), and there's a some huge stuff. dagesh-yud pronounced as /ɟ/, emphatic allophones of zayin and dhaled, voiced allophone of tzadi, vav pronounced usually as /v/, both uvular and alveolar realizations of resh, it's insane.
#jumblr#hebrew#linguistics#It seems most of the sourcing is medieval descriptions using Arabic transcriptions#so there might be some nuances of specifically Arabic that got inherited here#but still this is way more detail than I was aware of
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I'm still pissed off at the fact that so many responses to that post were "um ackshually the dictionary definition☝️🤓" and now that i'm actually a linguistics student i have the vocabulary necessary to explain why it pissed me off so i want a round two.
#it's a difference between prescriptive and descriptive approaches to language#you can slap a dictionary around all you want it doesn't change how words are used in real life by real people#original meanings mean nothing when they change#nice used to mean simple and used to mean stupid.#yet now we use it to mean nice/kind/good.#and so. ''expat'' means ''temporary worker'' so it's fine for brits to use it here#but it's really not because like ... the brits come here to retire and die. the immigrants from nepal are the real expats if we use#the definition. yet nobody calls the white westerners ''immigrants'' but does the people from periphery countries#funny how that works. 🤔 it seems like we ignore definitions in favour of some ideology but it's not a linguistic one
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"We should stop thinking in terms of 'compensatory education' but consider, instead, most seriously and systematically the conditions and contexts of the educational environment.
The very form our research takes tends to confirm the beliefs underlying the organization, transmission and evaluation of knowledge by the school. Research proceeds by assessing the criteria of attainment that schools hold, and then measures the competence of different social groups in reaching these criteria. We take one group of children, whom we know beforehand possess attributes favourable to school achievement; and a second group of children, whom we know beforehand lack these attributes. Then we evaluate one group in terms of what it lacks when compared with another. In this way research unwittingly underscores the notion of deficit and confirms the status quo of a given organization, transmission and, in particular, evaluation of knowledge. Research very rarely challenges or exposes the social assumptions underlying what counts as valid knowledge, or what counts as a valid realization of that knowledge."
- Basil Bernstein, Education Cannot Compensate for Society, in Education for Democracy (2nd ed., 1972)
#teaching tag#basil bernstein#education for democracy#quotes#education cannot compensate for society#1972#published around the same time Bernstein was writing his first books on language codes (he's better remembered now as a linguist than for#his contributions to the sociology of education‚ altho there's naturally a pretty broad overlap) and that features fairly heavily#in this paper; in particular he cites a fascinating experiment in which children from different social economic backgrounds were#asked to describe the actions in a purely pictorial story‚ with a marked contrast between the kids from working class homes#(whose descriptions were short‚ specific and required the context of the images to be understood by an outsider) and those#from privileged homes (whose descriptions were elaborate enough that the story could be understood without reference to the images)#Bernstein is very clear that this has no indicator of intelligence or ability; he's correctly identifying a difference in forms of#communication‚ particularly between different class types‚ something that would become more or less his life's work in research#he also finds time to condemn the then novel and nearly universal habit of streamlining in schools‚ and his words are brushed with anger#but that's perhaps understandable; as he himself writes‚ his own research had played some small part in the adoption of the process#despite his insistence that his work was being misunderstood at best or purposefully misused at worst#his ideas were fairly radical in 72 but with the hindsight of time he was simply displaying an empathy and#commitment to a duty of care for students‚ of all levels and abilities‚ that was demonstrably lacking then (and all too often now)
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a fun fact about me is that I know a lot of the US/UK variants, so I've developed some very specific opinions. especially on this one subject where I tend to be more specific than either variety.
this is a truck:

this is also a truck, but usually I call it a tractor-trailer:

...and this is a lorry:

it's because the squished-face ones are more commonly used in Singapore, where they speak UK English.
#linguistics#i am gonna ace my linguistics midterm on wednesday. i know it#also writing alt text for this one was weirdly hard. these descriptions might be a little lacking?
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I just started learning Thai so I’m interested. What is the difference between jing and jingjing? On your tags about favorite Thai words
oh! so in Thai, repeating an adjective turns it into an adverb.
in this case, jing is an adjective that means true or real or honest, and jingjing is an adverb that means really, trully, honestly. they're just my favourite Thai words because I like the way they sound lol.
my other favourite is ning, which doesn't have a perfect English translation but that you might recognise from My Engineer. it means cool as in (a person who is) cold, distant, or aloof, or alternatively calm and self-controlled. it's often used sarcastically when describing other people. ningning is an adverb that means something like carefully or calmly - you hear people saying "ningning!" to tell someone to calm down or take more care. kind of like "chill out!" in English lol. I like these because their English translations are so interesting! and because of RamKing and ai'Ning, obviously.
#oooh thank u i love talking about language!#also just to cover all bases -#an adjective is a descriptive word that describes nouns (nouns are things - including people places and concepts)#and an adverb describes verbs (which are 'doing words' that show the action in a sentence)#for example. 'she is careful'. careful is an adjective describing the 'she' in this sentence.#'she walked carefully'. carefully is an adverb describing how the action of walking took place.#adverbs in english usually end in -ly so that helps with identifying them#sorry if this is incredibly obvious#linguistics is one of those things that's been a special interest for so long that i genuinely have no baseline for what is common knowledg#darcey.txt#ask#darcey.lang#linguistics posting
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genuine language question: I know because of syllable rules, single character/syllable names aren't used by themselves (Wei Ying, Lan Zhan), but two character/syllable names (Wangji, Huaisang, Yanli, etc) can be used on their own. Why then is it that Wei Wuxian is never called just Wuxian? It's two characters and two syllables, but people always either call him his full name or a nickname (a-Xian, Xian-gege, etc), never just Wuxian
#I wanna know why!!!!!#linguist brain is buzzing trying to learn new language rules!!!!!!!!!!#I do know that the netflix subs and descriptions sometimes call him just wuxian#but as far as I know no one in the series calls him that?#he gets referred to all sorts of different ways#but for some reason not that#like i know lxc calls his brother wangji so I know people are referred to just by their courtesy name sometimes#idk im just curious#i might be misremembering things
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since i cant seem to speak spanish these days without the odd italian word slipping in ive taken to saying i speak espagbol
#which arguably also includes my english#my friends at least feel this is a fair description of my linguistic capabilities#(this is in fact my coping method bc i found myself crying in frustration today over spanish)#(starting to think. it's a problem)#helia's stuff#helia's ma adventure
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