#Dativ
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Wer ruft wen an?
„Wer ruft wen an?“ zum Thema Dativ. Auch verwendbar mit Possessivpronomen oder für das Wortschatzfeld Berufe.
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German will kill you with “the”, though
#Languages#memes#Russian#Italian#English#swear words#4 Fälle#Akkusativ#Dativ#Nominativ#Genitiv is dead
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reading about noun cases in ancient greek like this too is yuri
#where are my dative/genitive shippers at#tagamemnon#queueusque tandem abutere catilina patientia nostra
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Distribution of the dative case in Scandinavian dialects.
Similar to my earlier maps, feel free to ask questions! My sources are different books in .pdf form (mostly Ivar Aasen), personal experience, Swedish language sites and similar.
I know many of you wanted a map over "not", but that's hard and complicated! And I want to do it properly. (Dialects languages that have two forms are the main reason. Icke-Inte, Itt-Int, Ikkje-Inkje).
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Der Tat ihr Ort: Der Saar ihre Brücken
Das fleißige Lieschen
Dem Wald sein Herr
Der Schlange ihr Herz
Der Erde ihre Kälte
Dem Geld sein Fluch
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also speaking of latin in les mis this one's fun asdkjfhjsda
non licet omnibus adire Corinthum ("not everyone may get to Corinth") -> version (from at least the 17th century afaict, Hugo didn't invent it) of a line from Horace Epistles 1.17.36: non cuivis homini contingit adire Corinthum ("it doesn't come to pass that every man gets to Corinth") -- which then makes for a Really terrible pun here where omnibus, "everyone", also means literally the type of vehicle "an omnibus" and Corinthum rather than meaning "the city of Corinth" means. the wine shop the Corinthe. lmao.
#thoughts#les mis#ik 'omnibus' as in the vehicle comes from 'omnibus' the latin dative. but they've sufficiently diverged at this point it's still a pun#also sorry abt the translations reading awkwardly it's my bedtime#& i can't think of a natural way to do contingit without losing the whole construction
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the latin brainworms returned for a brief moment last night so i assigned grammatical cases to the lifers based on absolutely nothing
#i didnr know where to put tango he could go anywhere#ive never been more sure about anythjng than dative cleo#gem would be a good ablative too but im fine where she is#trafficblr
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i alternate between more worldbuilding and more conlang heavy phases and whenever i enter back into a conlanging phase the autism just kicks into overdrive its all i can think about i already have so many ideas. i was thinking word order could start out as VSO. then S/O verb agreement evolves thru pronouns becoming suffixes. the subject now gets fronted, > SVO. one daughter language could then evolve topic marking, fronting the object when it's the topic, > OSV. now in sentences where the S is the topic the O retains its position before the verb, > SOV, the new default. maybe this change could also trigger prepositions to become postpositions. no idea how naturalistic this would be but its an idea
#and then if at an earlier stage some prepositions evolved into case prefixes#id have prefixes and postpositions.......nice#regarding case i was thinking: “at” would become accusative and locative#“to” dative and allative and alienable possession#“with” comitative and inalienable possession#and a topic marker could evolve from “for” maybe?#ramblings#oh GOD i just remembered verbs. shudder#not thinking about that yet#actually its not that bad
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So there's this really cool thing Spanish does with pronouns. I'll try to explain (I'm no linguist, so feel free to correct me!).
Pronouns can be used as an accusative to mark the direct object of an action, as in "me bañe y me vestí" ("I showered and dressed myself"), or in "te beso" ("I kiss you"). Simple enough, right? It's your standard accusative personal pronouns.
But here's the thing. They can also be used as dative when the action concerns someone even though they may not be its direct object. For example, you can say "se rompió" ("it broke [itself]"), which is an accusative, but you can also add a dative and say "se me rompió" ("it broke [itself] [on me]"). You could very well imagine, then, a mother warning their children "¡Se me van a matar si siguen brincando así!" ("You're gonna kill yourself [on me] if you keep jumping up and down like that!"). You could even say, so as to mark a personal affection for the action's direct object, "no se me ponga a llorar" ("don't you start crying on me").
Alright. But you can take that a step forward. If your partner is looking particularly cute when going out, you could tell them "estás tan guapo que se te me van a robar" ("you're so cute they are gonna steal you from me").
#part two coming soon#?#grammar#spanish grammar#lingblr#pronouns#linguistics#spanish#reflexive pronouns#accusative#dative
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Wer schenkt wem was?
„Wer schenkt wem was?“ zum Thema Dativ. Zusätzlich mit Adjektiven verwendbar z.B. „die bunten Luftballons“ oder mit anderer Satzstruktur („Die bunten Luftballons hat … von …“).
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They wanted me to be a lawyer
They wanted me to work in a machine shop
They wanted me to be a designer
But I came out on top
I'm a fireman
#orange ball of peace#taking the dative#ghana#the mountain goats#tmg#tmg lyrics#queue’ve got the best of my love
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new goats design up in my shop :-)
id: 3 concentric circles of yellow orange, orange, and red orange with black text in the middle reading: HATE, Love, Pain, Peace, Pride, SHAME, WAR all in different typefaces end id.
#message from mirph#the mountain goats#tmg#john darnielle#orange ball of love#orange ball of hate#orange ball of pain#orange ball of peace#orange ball of pride#orange ball of shame#orange ball of war#zopilote machine#taking the dative#ghana#nothing for juice
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the ethic dative is actually so so sexy. to me
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alright note to self if I ever get a chance to go back in time and re-learn all my languages I should learn the language with the most cases first 💯
#having to distinguish between accusative and dative in german is killing me#bc i learned it in spanish first#which sort of lost its cases#so my brain has no distinction between doing something TO someone or FOR someone#bc theyre the same to me (grammatically)
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New Apple update sucks because it’s harder to copy/paste my friends latin into Google translate when I’m too tired to actually read and respond meaningfully to text messages in Latin
#I did three hours of Greek today#and five of Latin I am NOT reading your datives of possession on my iPhone
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no no no I’m not getting die/der/das wrong because I don’t know haha I’m uh well gender is stupid you see haha
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