#Andromeda RP

[dromedathecoolest]

INTRO

Hello bubs, I'm Andromeda/Andy/Dromeda Black. [ you can call me any one of those names :D ]

I studied in Hogwarts and am a slytherin like the rest of my family

I'm the middle sister of the Glorious Black Family.

I love my sisters with my whole life and I enjoy gossiping with them. ( no matter how crazy they are)

I LOVE ABBA, QUEEN AND THE SMITHS (I'm so proud i've made siri fall in love with them as well) My music taste is admired by all

I love to read, I always have a book and a beloved camera on me to capture my memories.

I absolutely LOVE shit that makes me rethink my existence

hurt my family if you dare.

OOC:- If you support jkr, you are racist, sexist, or homophobic/trasphobic please kindly leave without any drama

Here's everyone I know (like)

@so-sirius-rn Siri, My loud loving younger brother <3

@prongsie-rambles Jamie, Siri's friend who won't stop yapping ( but i love him)

@definitelynotawerewolf103 Remie, the best "marauder" Sweetest kid I've ever talked to

@totally-not-regulus Reggie, My adorable baby brother <3

@bellatrix-black-bitch Bella, My older sister <3

@narc1ssa-black Cissa, My baby sister <3

@fieldoflilllies Lils, OH MY GOD I LOVE HER SO MUCH

@i-dont-have-farm Mary, The first thing she ever told me was that she did'nt have a farm 😔

@theofficialp3t3r Pete, I've barely talked to him but he seems like a sweet kid (he gives me cookies every time i meet him)

@marleneslostmarbles Marlene, I need her tattoos so baddddd

@meadowesofflowers Dorcas, Reggie's friend and the love of Marlene's life

@thatbivthbcj Barty, Reggie's close friend seems cool?

@thorns-and-rosier Even, His vibe is the absolute bestttttt

@pand0ra-certifiedweirdo Dora, SHE'S THE ONLY ONLY ONE WHO MACHES MY VIBE

@xen0-lovegood Xeno, Dora's loverboy

@effie-potter Effie, Siri's mum

@skeeeeeeter-gossips Bella's girlfriend ( I'm pretty sure she loves gossip girls)

[residentsofhollowville]

[Tumbling into an old and overly clogged phone does not feel pleasant to Andromeda. Not in the slightest. She’s sure there’s not a single window on here that wasn’t closed. It hurt to breathe. But she needed to talk to this person. She began quickly speaking.]

Alright, no need to lie to me right now. I know everyone in your closed off town is serving some type of Fear. Are you serving the Web?

- Andromeda (@vapor-web)

Shrike nearly butterfingers his phone when he hears their voice coming out of it. He didn't make that call. He hasn't called anyone in days, not since he got the news of Cerise's death. Maybe when he's a little less frazzled, he'll go out, celebrate Hollowville slipping its chains at long last, but for now, he's not talking to anyone. So why is this stranger talking to him?

"...Yes, I serve the Mother of Puppets. Why do you ask? Furthermore, who are you and how the hell did you get my number?"

[thatgirlmary]

Intro Post !!

Hi loves I’m Mary MacDonald

17 ~ she/her ~ Gryffindor ~ Muggleborn

ABBA, The Beatles, The Smiths, Cyndi Lauper

@lillsthoughts my brilliant and drop-dead gorgeous best friend Lilly <3

@that-one-lesbian-mckinnon MARLENE!!! I love her so much we’ve been besties forever

@the-best-star Sirius!! My favorite person to party with (and he has gorgeous hair that I’m the slightest bit jealous of)

@moony-agedaydream Remus, the only sensible boy in our year and I love him for it!!

@onesingleprong the Gryffindor poster boy himself and a total sweetheart

@ratboy-peter very chill person overall except when it comes to Wizard chess which he is ridiculously good at

@pands-rosier we don’t talk too much but she’s one of the sweetest girls you’ll ever meet

@dorkassdorcas Marlene’s girlfriend and an absolute icon, love her

@rosy-evan Pandora’s brother (we also don’t really talk)

@evanrosierswife Barty I believe? wasn’t aware they were married but I can’t say I’m surprised

@regulus-fucking-black Sirius’s brother who is very brooding

@n4rcissa-blck Black’s cousin who I don’t talk to much and he doesn’t “quite hate anymore”

@andys-galaxyy Sirius’s “good cousin” (his words). She has EXCELLENT taste in music

[noblehouseofgay]

OUR RP DISCORD HAS OPENINGS!!

✧･ﾟ: *✧･ﾟ:*✧･ﾟ: *✧･ﾟ:*✧･ﾟ: *✧･ﾟ:*✧･ﾟ: *✧･ﾟ:*

- preferably I'm asking for people around 16+ but anyone can join

- I am 20!! Keep that in mind!! I'm not weird but if you're not comfortable with that I get it

- as for nsfw we don't do smut but obviously we like, make dirty jokes bc we have the humor of 13 year old boys. So nothing past like, implying things and making jokes since we have such a wide age range

- we are like half attached to a Tumblr group half not, so you'd only need the discord

- our set in stone ships are dorlene, jegulus, rosekiller, and wolfstar. All others would be up to who joins

- be somewhat active but obviously we all have lives. I have a job so I can't be on 24/7, but definitely try to be on when you can

✧･ﾟ: *✧･ﾟ:*✧･ﾟ: *✧･ﾟ:*✧･ﾟ: *✧･ﾟ:*✧･ﾟ: *✧･ﾟ:*

Characters we want:

- Evan rosier

- Rita skeeter

- narcissa black

- Bellatrix black

- Andromeda black

- effie potter

- walburga black

- Orion black

- Alice Fortescue

(Depending on ships, someone may want lucius, Ted, or frank as well)

[itty-bitty-bella]

There bloodlines ends with me ahh family: @sirius-thesstar @regregregulusblack @therealcissyblack @andro-black

[devianttxrts]

open to: w/nb muse: andromeda 'andy' chamberlain, 25 - 28, bisexual, forensic scientist

as soon as andy had seen them, she'd excused herself and made her way to the bathroom, making sure to swipe a fresh drink off a tray along the way. that's where she'd been since, probably a little too tipsy to deal with people she didn't like. "oh god." it was out before she could stop it when the door opened to reveal exactly who she didn't want to see as she stood at the sink, checking her make up as her most recent excuse for being in there. "of course it's you." because of course it was, though she hadn't meant to say that out loud, either. "what do you want? i mean, what are you doing here?"

[flaccidpncake]

My angara oc, Teraahj Do Tehjiit

[lunatheseus]

Endgame Couples in Harry Potter that I often wonder about - rambles and questions

Angelina Johnson & George Weasley:

Angelina eventually marries her late boyfriend's brother?

I'm curious as to how that even happens. What's the thought process behind that for her? What about how George feels about it?

Like- girl ended up with her dead boyfriend minus one ear and half of his livelihood gone...

Don't get me wrong, George definitely deserves a great life and future...

But also, (for George) how do you date your dead brother's girlfriend in the first place?

Idk the only real "solution" is that they helped each other through the grieving process of Fred's death???

Bill Weasley & Fleur Delacour

I can't say I'm well versed in the details of their relationship but... it's definitely interesting.

They definitely have relationship goals moments:

They met by chance: at Gringotts as coworkers

Fought alongside each other during the war

THE WEDDING

But also...

Bill caught Fleur's eye when she was in the Triwizard Tournament: Fleur was 17 Bill was 24 💀💀

How'd that even happen????

Like- whaaaat?

That means that Bill was 18 when Fleur was just starting school at Beauxbatons (which I assume was when she was 11)...

I mean- in hindsight, it's not that bad... but I wish we got more or a build up yk?

Like- Charlie was literally working at the Triwizard Tournament because of the Dragons... how did she not meet him first?

Ginny Weasley & Harry Potter

No. They had an amazing setup, but no.

It's like dating your younger sister.

There was also no buildup, chemistry, or reason.

I also thought the saving Ginny from Tom Riddle was supposed to be a nod at the "Handsome Prince saves the Damsel in Distress" trope... yeah no.

Also, Ginny literally disappears and has no relevance/importance to the stories after that, only becoming relevant when she started dating Dean Thomas (which I personally thought was cute) and Harry suddenly realized that he was in love with her all of a sudden. There's no buildup, and they had no chemistry in the supposed romantic scenes...

They honestly just did Ginny dirty....

Nymphadora Tonks & Remus Lupin

Ouch. This made me cry.

Ok I get that the 13 year difference is a bit odd... but to some degree it makes sense:

Remember that Tonks' mother married for love, even if it was out of the norm. Tonks is literally continuing the legacy lol

Lupin and Tonks were both outcasts, they relate to each other and appreciate their uniqueness

Anyway, their sacrifice was brutal but also devastatingly beautiful

[ask-princessandromeda]

Two Empousai ganged up on me and knocked me out and now it feels like I’m on a boat or smt, this y’all’s little (gay) Titan Army boat or…?

-Osias Mintz

Alabaster: Oh, look! Someone might have washed up on our deck again. Where are you, exactly? If you stay too long in one place, the empousas are going to come and eat you.

Ethan: Describe where you are, so we can figure out where to search for you. You might not even be on Princess Andromeda.

Luke: WHAT do you MEAN “little”? This is a motherfucking cruise ship! Okay, get up now. Let’s see where and who you are, and if you’re worth keeping. Or we’re just going to feed you to the monsters.

Silena: Oh my gods, are you okay? Do you need ambrosia? In the name of Zeus…

[cabinseventheaterchick]

Me five days ago: I dunno, maybe I’ll reveal stuff on Tumblr. Princess Andromeda stuff. Etc. Dad, what do you think? Dad, dodgeball of prophecy hidden behind his back: You’re doing great sweetie

[residentsofhollowville]

[Andromeda slowly wakes up from her rest. It was actually rather nice, especially after just reading a horror story. But she wasn’t pleased with how she was stuck in bed.]

Shrike? You there? Help…

[This was so humiliating.]

- Andromeda (@vapor-web)

Shrike hears her calling out from the guest bedroom, and remembers mid-writing session what he was supposed to do today. He gets to his feet, rubbing sleepiness from his eyes, and hurries to the guest bedroom, picking the phone up from under the covers as gently as he can manage.

"Good morning, Andromeda. I've got something for you," he says in a highly enthusiastic singsong tone that does not match his visibly exhausted state.

He grins as he hurries towards the newly furnished computer room.

[pleiades-cabin-talk]

Rose sits on his bed, legs crossed beneath them. The room is dark, too dark for the normal human eye to see well in. Much less well enough to read. But the few speckles of stars above their head on the ceiling do all he needs as he bends over on himself, reads lines he's near memorized by now, even while they're ever changing.

He'd not noticed the fog creeping in beneath the windows the nights prior, didn't notice it now as it clung low to the floors like a thin carpet of mist, rippling in gentle waves as if a breeze was present in the room when there wasn't.

Rose does not notice when they lick at the edges of the bed, as they climb their way up, crawling across the sheets, snaking around his feet, twisting, slowly, around his body as the room becomes more misty by the minute.

They only feel the gentle rocking of the Andromeda as she sways side to side as if in a dance, lost in a trance as much as Rose was upon the bed. The world around him is quiet, silent. Rose does not hear the waves anymore. Does not hear the oceans urgent call. She cannot reach through the cotton clouding his mind, cannot reach beyond the fog that's taken Rose into an icy, ghostly embrace.

Rose just stares down at the book in his lap, barely reading further than a few lines anymore, having to repeat them over and over because he forgets immediately after, memory fading.

The story he'd repeated for the past few months, one he'd known for years before, one that had told of his past, one that told of his new start in a world far, far from where he'd been.

A story brought to a stop by one line Rose cannot force his tired, heavy eyes from.

"And then he entered through the arms of the fog, the ribbons part and through steps a man, one by the name of Damien."

then he walked through the arms of the fog, the ribbons part and through steps a man, one by the name of Damien.

he entered through the arms of the fog, the ribbons part and through steps a man, and his name was Damien.

entered through the reaches of the fog, the ribbons part and through steps a man, and his name was Damien.

through the reaches of the fog, the tendrils part and through steps a man, and his name was Damien.

the reaches of the fog, the tendrils part and through comes a man, and his name was Damien.

reaches of the fog, the tendrils split and through comes a man, and his name was Damien.

of the fog, the tendrils split and through comes a man, and his name was Damien.

It all boils down to something very simple, something very small and insignificant to anyone but him.

His name was Damien.

It was Damien.

It is Damien.

Damien

Damien

Damien

Rose thinks of nothing else, mind filled with nothing but hazy, all encompassing fog and him.

Rose's brain has no space for anything but the fog and him. It is him. It has been him. It always will be him.

He belongs to him, every part of him does, wants to, aches to be with him.

Damien

Damien

Damien

His name drifts from his lips in a quiet whisper. Like a Sirens song, summoning, wishing, hoping, needing.

"Damien"

[devoteeoftheeyes]

[She sits down next to them, school had just ended and they were sitting outside of the school— she grabs their arm and stares at them mischievously.]

@calista-malian

[They gave her a confused yet amused look, not pulling their arm away but meerly raising an eyebrow at her antics]

What are you doing there Andromeda-?

[luke-olympian-slayer]

I cannot contain my rage for the gods I want justice, I want revenge I want to avenge all those trampled under the feet of the Olympians

[laertesthelocalstranger]

hhh HEY Laertes haha, just one small teeny tiny question haha-

WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED.

- Andromeda (@vapor-web)

...

I had to grab something from my dimension. I- I think it was scissors? I don't remember...

Ren slipped in by accident, and they- they went to the one goddamn place that you are never, ever supposed to go.

I mean, who goes into a Stranger domain and then goes straight fucki-

Sorry. Sorry, it was my fault, and you gotta understand, I looked so hard to get them out. There are just...so many different places they could've been, and I...

I'm sorry. I'm so fucking sorry.

[wishesfromwithin]

soulmates and stars

synopsis: jason and y/n have been friends for months both concealing their feelings from each other but could they express them if the right date was planned?

warnings:cringey,first writing so may be horrible(sorry!),like 2 swear words, lack of punctuation 😔,tense may randomly change

word count: this is a guess but maybe around 2-3k??

trope:friends to lovers

pairing:jason x gf!aphrodite reader

authors note:hope you guys enjoy!it’s my first time writing so i hope this is okay! happy reading!!💕

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you walk into cabin 10 after an amazing day hanging out with ur friends (specifically a certain blond hair blue eyed boy) and collapsed on your bed. you were worn out completely after a cool day playing in the lake and now just lay there silently, milling over the events of the day and occasionally blushing when remembering a few conversations with one of ur close friends jason. but the peace didn’t last long as soon you remembered you had a camp meeting that must be attended,and since you got voted for head councillor that seemed to be your job.

slowly but surely you picked each leg up and dropped onto the floor forcing yourself up with the thought of who would be at the council meeting, you chucked on some baggy joggers and a sweatshirt as you weren’t too bothered about ur appearance especially until you got some food in your stomach. god ur were hungry. that thought faded to the back of ur mind when u glanced at a nearby clock and… shit u were late. you rushed out of cabin 10 but was stopped almost immediately by one of ur cabinmates, natalie, asking you about new renovations to the cabin.

“hey y/n, i’ve got some cool colour designs here if you can take a look?”she said giddily. natalie was an avid interior designer who was always trying to trap you in a corner to speak about colour shades and storage compartments.

“i’m sorry natalie” you replied while walking backwards.

“i can’t stay and talk got to get to a meeting, maybe we can chat after tho?” you added, secretly hoping you would be able to avoid her and just go straight to bed.

“okay! i’ll have some new ideas by then anyways” natalie replied

great, you thought silently praying to ur mother that you don’t bump into her on ur way back and promising to speak to her tomorrow

but ur grumbling was quickly ended when you felt yourself hit a hard,tall surface. you turned around swiftly ,mouth open to apologise to whoever you just walked into but it closed quickly when you turned and met electric blue eyes.you felt your heart flutter and could feel colour rising in your cheeks.

“oh hey jase” you exhaled,relieved ur weren’t the only late one.

“hey y/n, you okay?”

“yeah i’m all good!what makes you ask?”

“oh you know, just the fact you walked into me maybe?” jason said with a slight laugh

oh yeahhh, you thought collecting your scrambled thoughts.

“oh yeah super sorry about that”

“no ur not”jason replied, a smirk rising on his lips

“no i’m really not” you say a smile rising on the corners of your mouth.

“wanna walk to the big house with me?” jason asked, a faint pink colour rising through his neck and spreading over his cheeks

“of course i will j, you know me, always late” you replied ur own cheeks flushing hot as you start a gentle walk across the grass, occasionally bumping into each other and feeling a shock of electricity run up your arm.

you find a general conversation topic and speak back and forth until suddenly a thought pops into ur head just at the entrance of the big house

“hey j, how come you were so late today ,your usually soo early?” you questioned,wondering why he was so held up.

“oh i just-i had to- i got carried away with planning something,shall we go inside?”jason said unusually quick.

“yeah…sure”you said wondering why jason was acting weird all of a sudden.

the meeting went quick,just weekly notices mainly but you had to admit you weren’t listening that much as you couldn’t shake the feeling that something was off with jason.during the meeting he wouldn’t meet ur eyes and kept gazing out the window. odd you thought, something must be up jason never acts like this? you wondered

after the meeting ended you rushed out the room,desperate to reach the familiar colour of blond hair and soon enough you do. speeding to catch up with his long strides you chase him down.

“wait j, i gotta talk to you” you barely managed to breathe out, out of breath from trying to keep up with his long strides.

“oh hey y/i” he said a quiver in his voice as if he was anxious,

“what’s up”

“the sky” you replied an ever lasting joke between the two of you,

“no but really we gotta talk” you pressed, grabbing his arm gently to slow him to a stop

“okay…” he said staring at your hand against his skin, when you notice him looking at it you remove it but wish you hadn’t.

“are you okay?”you breathe out, suddenly overcome with an adrenaline boost

“i only ask because you wouldn’t meet my eyes in there and you were acting weird before we went in”

jason stared at you for a second before opening his mouth but closing it again with a sigh

after a while he finally spoke, much to ur happiness

“im fine really y/n” he stated with a sigh

“okay,why were you late for the council meeting today then?” you questioned, determined now to get an answer from him even if you didn’t know if you actually wanted the truth.

see the truth was that you have slowly been falling for the blond haired son of zeus ever since 5 months ago, when you started getting to know him better and you started to realise he wasn’t as closed off as others thought and that he was funny,kind and caring in the best ways a person could be, his personality was the one thing you absolutely fell in love with. well, his appearance certainly helped but mostly it was his personality. but you’ve kept your feelings hidden, not wanting to ruin the friendship and resorted to only living your feelings in your dreams.

“i-i” jason stuttered unable to form full sentences

“just tell me!”you said, ur voice pleading as if the answer was going to upset you

jason stared at you again,as if deciding your fate, closed his eyes and whispered…

“i-i was planning to take someone star gazing” he exclaimed slowly as if waiting for your reaction to each word.

“and i thought” he continued, ur heart beating faster than ever “that that someone could be you.” he stated barely a whisper.

oh.

you could’ve have sworn your heart just grew inside your chest. you secretly pinched yourself to make sure this was happening.

it was.

“oh” that was all you could manage to get out through your fantasy.

“i mean you don’t have too, don’t feel forced, it was just an idea” jason whispered, his voice having an edge of sadness in it.

when you didn’t say anything still,jason turned to walk away,head turned to the floor but you grabbed his arm again, this time firmer and made him double back to you. electric shots ran through your body filling you with warmth.

“no no! i would love too! really jase i would” you finally got out, a sense of happiness filling the air around the two you stood

“really?” he said

“really really really!” you nearly shouted back

“cool!”he exclaimed his face lighting up, exciteness clearly visible through his features.

“cool” you replied,a huge smile intruding onto ur lips.

without realising it the two of you had slowly made your way to the front steps of cabin one.

“okay then i’ll see you tomorrow.9pm.the strawberry fields. try not to be late”jason said with a chuckle.

“i’ll try but i’m not promising anything”

jason laughed and then looked down at you for a couple of seconds as if taking in your features.

“okay goodnight then” he whispered

“goodnight”you whispered back and slowly turned on your heel and started your walk back to your cabin.

a sense of utter happiness had consumed you,but most of all you were overjoyed that your dreams were finally coming true.

******

the next day passed slowly, you trained some new campers, spoke about colour schemes with natalie as you had promised and gave various people relationship advice but couldn’t help glancing at the clock frequently to see how much hours were left until your date.you hadn’t seen jason at all that day but thought that was for the best seen as you wouldn’t be able to compose yourself in front of him right now anyways, you were far too giddy .as much as you were excited about this date you had to remind yourself not to get carried away.this could be a friends thing.he may not feel the same about you so no point in getting your hopes up just yet, you kept reminding yourself.

your siblings questioned why you kept fidgeting but you shook them off each time they asked not wanting to get their hopes up for you too and they soon stopped asking.

finally the clock hit 8:55pm, you got up and started walking towards the strawberry fields in a flowery,mid length dress that hung to your body in all the right places. this was it you thought , the moment you’ve been waiting for.

when you first laid eyes on the sight in front of you, your heart melted. there he was, looking perfect along with everything else. a big telescope was placed in the middle of a blanket and he was adjusting it when you walked up.

“hey jase”

“oh hey y/n! your just on time, sorry i was just sorting the telescope out”he said facing the it.

“yeah i thought i would make an exception to my late streak for you, do what you need to, i’m so ready to see some stars tonight! will the sky be clear enough to see them? you asked,looking unsure at the clouds on the horizon.

jason finally turned to look at you and when he did his mouth fell open a little.he stared at your face before he seemed to regain his thoughts.

“wow y/n you-you look absolutely stunning” he managed causing you to blush.

“thanks,you don’t look to bad yourself” you said with a huge grin.

jason stared at you some more before finally answering your question.

“yes it should be okay,i’ve made sure of it” he answered still looking into your eyes

oh yes, you thought of course it will be fine he is the son of the sky god after all.

“come and sit” jason said inching to the right more so you could get on the blanket.

when you sat down,you looked up and saw tiny dots of glitter sprinkled in the sky.

“woah” you exclaimed taken aback by how pretty the stars looked

“i know right” jason said proudly “i found this spot a while ago and have been coming here nearly every month”

“i can’t blame you” you said still in awe “it’s beautiful”

jason chuckled and looked through the telescope, you watched him enamoured by his movements,mesmerised by him.

“this star here” he started “is the arcturus, it means guardian of the bear in greek” jason said, still looking through the telescope but you spotted him glance at you with a smile before he started on a new star.

you two sat like this for a while,him telling you about all the different stars in the sky and you listening carefully truly interested in what he had to say. you watched the stars through the telescope and he quizzed you on what each meant until you could name at least five stars by sight. then all of a sudden you spotted a new star,to the right of you, one jason hadn’t told you about yet.

“what’s this one mean?”you asked, gently swerving to the side so he could take a look through the telescope,his arm leaning against yours now.

“that is perseus and that is andromeda next to it ,their love story was outlined in the stars for all of eternity” he said,glancing at you

“that’s so sweet but so sad at the same time” you said quietly meeting jason’s eyes

“would you ever want to be written in the stars for all eternity?”

“ maybe, if it was with the right person” jason said,now staring straight into your eyes

“j, i’ve got something to tell you” you said surprising yourself and talking quickly so this moment doesn’t ends and your confidence doesn’t drift away.

“this is weird and i don’t want to ruin our friendship, but i think you deserve the the truth” you started, unable to take your eyes from him.

“the truth-the truth is i-ive fallen in love with you” you blurted out, very surprised with yourself

“and i don’t want this to ruin our friendship but i had to tell you before it was too late”

jason stared at you,clearly stunned with your outburst before speaking, his expression unable to be read but his eyes had a glint of reassurance in them.strange.

“too late till what?”he questioned a look of concern filling his face.

“i don’t know,too late before you start dating anyone else i guess”you said ,hanging your head slightly from his short reply.

without realising it the two of you had moved your heads closer and you could feel the warmth of his breath against your cheek.

“eons ago,humans were said to have four arms four legs and two faces” jason whispered staring into your confused eyes “but our pride was too much so zeus was said to have split us in half as punishment” he went on slowly his face inching closer and closer to yours “humans are destined to walk the Earth searching for our other half, for some they spend their whole lives searching but i know right now, i won’t have to search any longer”

when he kissed you it felt like you were melting from the inside out, your lips moving with each other, your hand coming up the touch his blond hair while he gently brushed his fingers against your cheek occasionally sparking you gently .you felt alive, you felt like you were falling but to a happier place.

when you pulled apart, you rested your foreheads against each others looking at each other longingly, a sense of happiness surrounding you.

“that’s the best thing that anyones ever told me” you breathed out

jason chuckled as he wrapped an arm around you and you rested your head against his shoulder as you both watched the stars take over the day and you both sat, the both of you feeling happier than you ever had before.