#10 years of Marvel

[5ummit]

Captain America: The Winter Soldier (2014)

[leilohsstupidgaystuff]

We don't talk enough about my poor man Hank. Imagine having you best friend/kind of mentor all day drinking and talking and crying about the man who paralyzed him and is now in prison for killing the president.

Charles: *really drunk* Hank? Did I tell you about what great of a kisser Erik is?

Hank: Yes. Yes, you did.

Charles: I miss him. He was always so nice to me.

Hank: He paralyzed you and he took Raven with him. Also he blocked you out of his head, with the helmet of the man he killed, which you felt, while saying you should be proud of your mutation.

Charles: *totally not listening* He's so cute. Did you ever notice how he looked, when he was thinking about something? So cute.

Hank: He killed JFK. He's locked up in the fucking Pentagon.

Charles: *suddenly very teary* It was totally my fault, wasn't it? Oh my god, I'm such a horrible person. Erik was right to leave me.

Hank: *trying to calm him down and preparing for Charles having a breakdown* Charles, listen to me. Everything you-

Charles: And we had so good sex! Oh my god... The things he can do with his tounge!

Hank: Well, nevermind...

[diviedrawn]

What was I made for?

[lycazart]

rq kurt doodle bc my arms hurt but it needed to be done

[u5an5]

Just watched Deadpool & Wolverine with polish subs based on dub and I have to be honest, there's much more funny stuff than I expected, considering that the rest of it made me glad I'm not watching it with actual dub

So, things that picked my interest:

Instead "207 when I watch Gossip Girl" he straight up says "207 when I watch porn" (Gossip Girl isn't especialy popular show here so reference wouldn't mean anything for majority of audience anyway, but to straight up say it instead replacing it?)

"Ok peanut, 'guess we're getting that team-up after all" got replaced with "Okej ptysiu, nie ma to jak seks grupowy", which translates to "Okay cutiepie, nothing better than group sex" (??? we're still in the first 5 minutes of the movie)

"you know what they say, when one door closes, your locker at work opens" translated to "Jak to mówią… Jak zamykają od przodu, to ładujesz się od tyłu" which translates roughly to "Like they say... when they close the front, you get in the behind" which I find kinda funny

Peters line about seeing Wade in suit comes of gayish cause he doesn't say he wants to see him in the suit again, he wants to LOOK at him in it again, you know what I mean

intead "This guy looks ready to throw it all away for me" he says "This cutie would gladly get hugged by my bowels" which is a lot more straightforward than I expected

Wades spiel to comic acurate height Wolverine is much more insulting and instead being all "what a cwute short king you awe" translates to "Oh fuck, a furball dwarf? Was there even dwarf like that? Furballs mommy drank lots of booze when she was pregnant? Maybe daddy was a ratferret? Don't even come near me, 'cause you surely have ticks"

"I need you to come with me, right now" to "Zapraszam cię na randke, i to natychmiast" meaning "I invite you to a date, and I mean right now" (Logan replies with "Złotko, nie kręci mnie to" which translates to "Sweetie, I'm not diggin' it" and by "it" I'm honestly not sure if he means Wade himself, the fact that Wade said he's only here because he's the Wolverine just a second ago, or because his suit looks like fetish gear)

"It's quite common to Wolverines after 40" to "It's normal when going trough menopause, I get it"

they replaced "peanut" to different endearments to not be repetive but the most often used one is "ptysiu" (ptyś is a choux pastry; if I had to translate it as english endearment, I'd go with cutiepie). its cute imo

Logans "bub" also got replaced by endearments/insults losely fitting situation but the stupidest one has to be Logan calling Johnny "misiu", which translates to "little bear" and let me tell you, it's HILARIOUS cause it's equvalent of calling a random guy "sweetie" but in the "your grandma asking if you want seconds (yes you do, no you don't have any say)" way

"my boy's wicked strong" is translated to "mój chłopak zna się na rzeczy". It's slightly like the papi situation from spanish dub cause yes, "chłopak"'s direct translation is often "boyfriend" but it is also used as "boy", "guy" or "dude", usualy towards guys younger/about the same age as you. However, the addition of "mój"/"mine, my" makes it much more angled towards boyfriend, wherever they wanted to or not. There are at least three different ways to translate it and make it less gae I know and the've still chosen this one.

They made, in my opinion, the "its a common curtesy to ask" "Its good thing I don't give a fuck" lines better by translating them to "you shoud've ask, thats polite thing to do" "and you can politely fuck off"

they replaced Star Trek reference with Star Wars one, using Han Solo instead Spock and idk. on one hand they did it to THE spirk moment but on the other they made, and I may be reaching, but it seems like covert reference to "I know" scene so ??? (star trek is nowewhere near as known as star wars here so they would probs replace it either way but it also can be just "star trek and star wars sound so much alike, they have to be basically the same, right?" haha joke)

them instead innuendos using the most over the top forms of insult that no one ever heard is kinda funny but only because I only had to read them; if I ever heard somone call somebody "kutasina" irl I would find a way for at least one of us to not be able to hear anything ever again ("cockleter" is my best attempt to recreate this horseshit)

If you guys want to share some treasures from your native dubs/subs, feel free to

[puppetmaster13u]

Prompt 134

One of the young justice members is complaining about how their parents or mentors benched them after getting injured. 

And Marvel snorting and saying that that reminds him of Phantom. And of course, the YJ crew, ask who that is. 

“Oh Phantoms my big brother, pops never really understood our human halves or limits so…” and he just shrugs like he didn’t just drop Lore. And the teens smell blood in the water, they want to know more. 

[antiheroapologist]

Captain America: The Winter Soldier 10 year Celebration~ Favorite Characters

#1: Bucky Barnes/Winter Soldier

"Thank you, Buck, but I can get by on my own."

"The thing is, you don't have to. I'm with you to the end of the line, pal."

[wxth3r1ngflxw3r]

Fic that I can't believe I'm writing just updated

Summary:

"I uhh..." just say 'I've been sober for 10 years,' don't mess it up, "I'm.. pregnant.."

That was not what he meant to say.

OR

That time Billy accidentally convinced the League he was pregnant

Rating:

Teen And Up Audiences

Archive Warning:

No Archive Warnings Apply

Fandoms:

Shazam! | Captain Marvel (Comics)

Justice League International (Comics)

Justice League - All Media Types

Relationships:

Billy Batson & Bruce Wayne

Billy Batson & Ted Kord

Billy Batson & Michael Carter

Billy Batson & Dinah Lance

Billy Batson & Guy Gardner

Billy Batson & Justice League

Other Relationship Tags to Be Added

Characters:

Billy Batson

Bruce Wayne

Michael Carter (DCU)

Ted Kord

Dinah Lance

Guy Gardner

Justice League (DCU)

Other Character Tags to Be Added

Additional Tags:

Secret Identity

Hijinks & Shenanigans

Fluff and Humor

Other Additional Tags to Be Added

eventual identity reveal

How Do I Tag

divine twitch chat

Trans Guy Gardner

Genderfluid Guy Gardner

No beta we die like ted kord

Timeline is fucked in the fic but ignore that

Pregnancy

Kind Of

Crack Treated Seriously

Language:English

[halohalona]

i just saw that one interview where the interviewer mentioned cosplay and Hugh was like: Cosplay?

and then ryan tried explaining what cosplay was but then gave up. Anyways, when Hugh said the word "Interweb" the reminder of how old he was hit me like a truck 😭

[likea-black-widow-baby]

I... am somehow having trouble comprehending the casual queerness in episode 7. Specifically these quotes from Agatha:

"You want a straight answer ask a straight lady."

"I like the bad boys."

"I was your mom's ex.... best friend"

Somehow I just... wasn't prepared for the titular character to be casually queer in a way that feels genuine to her character. I just thought they'd mess it up. Or not see it through. Not pay it off, fail somehow to make it feel real. Billy is real. His boyfriend and gay humor are very real. But somehow making this older, wiser character queer feels different.

Making a younger character queer makes it easy to separate the older generations of MCU characters from the younger ones. Oh he's Gen Z, he's a side character, he's the comedic relief allowed to be gay. But Agatha is older, literally centuries old, just as powerful and just as central as the original MCU heroes, and she's... queer. And casual about it.

The casualness is just as important as the intensity of Agatha and Rio's actual interactions. I think part of why casual representation is important is because when queerness is always intense, it makes it feel like an anomaly. Like a chapter of someone's life that they'll remember, but move past. The casualness... It brings queerness into the MCU in the way we've all dreamed of since the beginning. All those silly wonderful headcanon posts about bi or trans Peter Parker, the Tony Stark "I love sucking *repulsor noise*" post, even Stucky. This makes it seem possible.

I never thought I'd get this from the franchise that I've loved for so long. I never thought I'd see the day, and it feels dramatic and weird and I'm more shaken by it than I thought I would be. I thought by now I'd just fallen into the dichotomy: queerness is more normalized, so queerness isn't necessarily a shock anymore vs Marvel will never do casual queerness. It just doesn't exist in the MCU. And now it does. I never could have imagined this.

Sometimes I forget why I still run this account, when all the best of the MCU seems to be in the past. It hadn't even occurred to me that it could be this.

[gryficowa]

I can't enjoy GF because polio is back in Gaza...

By the way, fuck Disney and the Olympics

And since I have your attention:

[nobodysuspectsthebutterfly]

I read GRRM’s interview regarding book vs show canon and I thought the way he was approaching an adaptation of his own story, and fiction as a whole, was very interesting. I do wonder though - does the concept of having a separate show canon kind of become like a cop-out? Because in that case, any TV/film adaptation can just decide to change the plot as they see fit and go “oh, well, that’s our canon, the book is a different canon.” Doesn’t it cease to be an adaptation after a point, or at least become a loose one? In the HotD context, a lot of the changes being made I actually quite like because I can see them fitting in the canon, because there’s nothing suggesting otherwise.

But say, Sansa marrying Ramsay (or, alternatively, the moment that show was dead to me) we can say with absolute certainty did not take place and will almost definitely never take place. D&D knew that too but they went ahead with it anyway; it’s not quite like the Scarlett example where it makes no difference to the story because this change does. I feel like the whole point of adapting written words into something visual loses some of its sanctity if we just accept TV changes a whole separate canon, as opposed to simply a change made by the writers (good change or bad change is up to personal opinion).

I have followed your blog for almost a decade so I’m really curious to hear your thoughts on the subject.

GRRM's "Scarlett example" -- his question of "how many children did Scarlett O'Hara have?", because in the book Gone With the Wind she had three, one with each of her three husbands, whereas in the movie she only had one -- has been his go-to when asked about the difference between book and show canon since at least 2012. Or to quote him from 2015,

How many children did Scarlett O’Hara have? Three, in the novel. One, in the movie. None, in real life: she was a fictional character, she never existed. The show is the show, the books are the books; two different tellings of the same story.

This is IMO one of the most sensible ways for an author to look at adaptations of their work (even if I have gotten rather tired of GRRM using the Scarlett example specifically, pick something different George, we've seen it before lol). There is book canon and there is show canon. They are different parallel universes. They're separate canons because they contain changes made by the writers, and also because the very process of moving from the written word to visual media must involve some kind of change.

And this applies to all adaptations. That's why I brought up X-Men comics vs the Fox X-Men movies vs the X-Men cartoon (original 90s and 2024's '97). For example, there's 4 different versions of the Dark Phoenix Saga between those canons, at the very least. Wait, sorry lol, I forgot the Ultimate canon version. And the various in-comics alternate universe versions. And god knows when they finally bring the X-Men into the MCU they'll probably do yet another DPS there too. And that's only one of many storylines that are radically different between the various canons.

Or look at the various Interviews with the Vampire. Is the new tv show "not an adaptation" because its Claudia is a teenager rather than 5 years old as in the book or portrayed by an 11 year old as in the movie, thus resulting in extremely different relationships and a reshaped plot? (Among many other changes?) No. IWTV has book canon, movie canon, and show canon.

And I can't speak that well about Transformers since it's not a major fandom of mine, but go take a look at their various continuities if you want some more perspective about just how very far the meaning of "adaptation" can stretch.

Or hell, look at Stephen King, where among his many many many adaptations, some of which just barely resemble the original text, the only one he sued to have his name removed from was The Lawnmower Man, because they literally used an entirely different story and just slapped his title on it.

And then there's the movie Adaptation, which is a wildly meta-adaptation of the non-fiction book The Orchard Thief (it's a story about the process of adapting that book and involves a fictional version of the writer, the screenplay writer, and an entirely invented screenplay writer's twin brother)... and it was nominated for Best Adapted Screenplay for multiple film awards (and won a few times), and the original writer even said it kept to the book's themes.

Suffice it to say, HOTD has a long, long, long way to go before it could ever "cease to be an adaptation after a point". Changing the timeline to make Alicent and Rhaenyra the same age, or doing Blood & Cheese differently, do not even compare to what some book-to-visual media "loose adaptations" have done. Even GOT, as wildly terrible as their non-book storylines could be, both their changes to the text and after they had no actual text to work with, never became a "loose adaptation". Certainly it became a less than faithful adaptation -- and let's be real, it always was unfaithful for both themes and the essential elements of so many characters -- but it also always was a remarkably accurate adaptation of the whole span of Westeros (in geography and breadth of characters) and the general (not specific) book plot. (Consider previous attempts at adaptation that GRRM rejected, such as a single 2 hour movie, or eliminating Jon and Dany for being "irrelevant", or only making a Jon movie with none of the other storylines, etc.) Which is why, when GOT was different (and awful) it was such a betrayal, like a zombie or evil alien wearing the skin of your best friend or beloved child, and worse, that this twisted lookalike was the only version millions and millions of viewers ever saw and believed to be true.

But again, this just underlines what GRRM has said. "The show is the show, the books are the books." There is book canon and there is show canon. They are separate things. Parallel universes -- very close parallels, often touching in many places, but sometimes they're quite different. Sometimes the differences in adaptation enhance the themes of the original canon; sometimes the author may even consider certain adapted characters (Shae, King Viserys, Helaena) to be better than his original canon; sometimes you know there's only those tricky NDAs (and payments of lots of money) that prevent him from expressing his disappointment in more ways than dropping the Sansa TWOW preview chapter only days before the release of GOT S5. But perhaps if we're lucky, maybe one day we'll have yet another parallel canon to compare to the others.

[traumatizedbymay2016]

Tony Stark: Hey Director, did you get my report on the Tesseract?

Nick Fury: Yeah, I looked it over. Nice work.

Tony: Good. Thanks, dad.

Tony: ...

Tony: Why is everyone staring at me?

Natasha Romanov: You just called Director Fury dad. You said, "Thanks, dad."

Tony: What? No I didn't, I say, "Thanks, man."

Fury: Do you see me as a father figure, Stark?

Tony: No, if anything I see you as a "bother" figure 'cause you're always bothering me.

Thor: Hey, show your father some respect.

Tony: I didn't call him dad!

Fury: No, no no no, Anthony. I take it as a compliment.

Steve Rogers: It's not a big deal. I called Peggy "mom" once, and she was my fiancée.

Tony: Guys, jump on that! Cap has psycho-sexual issues.

Clint Barton: Old news. But you calling Fury "daddy"---

Tony: Hey, "daddy" is not on the table here.

Justin Hammer (currently under arrest): But you did call him "dad", dude.

Tony: You shut up. You've done nothing but lie since you got here.

Hammer: Alright, alright, I was lying about bankrolling Whiplash. But the dad thing, that happened.

Tony: Aha! He admitted that his alibi was a lie. It was a trap, all part of my crazy, devious plan.

Fury: I believe you ---

Tony: Thank you.

Fury: --- son.

Tony: ...

Fury: Do you want to talk about it later, over a... game of catch?

Tony: I'd like that.

[ex35life]

Nightcrawler has always been one of my favorite X-men. I love Kurt so much!

[puppetmaster13u]

Prompt 119

Another divine twitch chat Au? Another divine twitch chat Au. With a bit of a twist. 

Billy would like to say it is in fact not his fault. It’s really not. Who hits someone with magic they obviously don’t know how to use? Well okay maybe he had done that before, but it’s not like he ever did it around other people where they could get hit! 

But someone was an idiot and now he’s here, as his normal ten-year old self kicking his legs while sitting in the Watchtower as the others argued. Apparently the League thinks he’s been de-aged, which is good as his secret isn’t out. 

The uh, issue is that something about the spell might have um, partially manifested the gods- or as he called them the Mediterranean Magic Men, if only because of how annoyed it made Zeus. Now everyone can see the chat that’s usually only visible to him and apparently it’s concerning. 

He doesn’t see how it’s an issue, Zeus has been silenced for the next hour and Hercules has been dying of laughter for the last three. Oh, wait, it might be from Mercury’s constant attempted flirting with Flash. …Or the fact they’re trying to convince him to commit a crime and he’s honestly down for doing so seeing as he’s a homeless ten year old who is down for getting clairvoyance and super speed for the next thirty minutes in exchange…

[the-defenders-marvel]