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The full comic is finally over!!! Thank you for following it ~
#mdzs#mo dao zu shi#wangxian#lwj#wwx#lan xichen#lxc#nie huaisang#nhs#jiang cheng#jc#the grandmaster of demonic cultivation#mxtx#danmei#the untamed#cql#魔道祖师
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now both of you are gone
#i think about this scene alot#the pain in lxc eyes after talking to nhs#i dont think ill ever forget that scene#bcs in the eyes of almost everyone this scene meant the way to a happy ending except for lxc#and that destroys me#i hope ppl notice nmj standing in the light while jgy stands in the shadows#art#fanart#drawing#illustration#mdzs#mdzs fanart#mo dao zu shi fanart#mo dao zu shi#lan xichen#nie mingjue#jin guangyao#3zun#3zun fanart#xiyao#nielan#danmei#the untamed#mxtx#the untamed fabart#cql#cql fanart#魔道祖師#my art
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from this poll
#closeness has nothing to do with depth of affection!!! don't come at me about the Nie Bros.!!#they love each other SO MUCH but boy oh boy do they misunderstand each other until it's too late!#meanwhile (not unlike NMJ) WQ has posited herself so firmly in the position of WN's protector that he can't fully know her#I debated the entire day about the placements for the Wen sibs + Lan sibs + Nie sibs#but went with these bc LXC and LWJ are at least fully aware of each other's close personal relationships#whereas WN has no idea about WQ and the comb (and very possibly no idea about how WRH uses him to keep WQ in line)#and NHS and NMJ keep hella secrets from each other even after their heart-to-heart in Fatal Journey#(in case it wasn't obvious: this is for CQL canon specifically do NOT bring novel canon into my home at this time)
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@hereticcryptid I appear to be slowly but surely developing an entire series about how Hensheng and Baxia apparently get fed up with their owners' inability to express their feelings and take matters into their own hands...
#mdzs#jin guangyao#nie mingjue#jgy#nmj#nieyao#very sincerely this is a concept i keep coming back to and spinning around in my head#i find it unreasonably funny i want these swords revealing every tender feeling that these two are categorically incapable of admitting to#really i just want to bring the concept of e'ming and the general embarrassment hua cheng feels for his sabre at all times and throw it#into the mdzs world#can't quite bully the concept into an actual fic but i do love thinking about it and drawing art related to it#i assume nmj nearly went completely feral the first time hensheng shot out at him#like yup! he knew jgy was a snake! he's trying to attack him while his guard is down!!! well nmj is gonna deflect this fucking weak attack#and then SKEWER jgy and there's no way lxc can hold it against him!#except rather than deflecting hensheng baxia is a horrible traitor about it and instead he ends up getting cuddled by a touch-starved sword#0/10 nmj is having a horrible day he would genuinely have prefered jgy try to kill him (jgy would have ALSO prefered that as it happens)#(nhs on the other hand is having an AMAZING day when he sees it)#my art#THANK YOU EVERYONE THAT SENT ME PROMPTS!#this seriously helped get me through the day and made my evening so much better#i shall continue to go through them tomorrow after work as well 🥰🥰🥰#hensheng
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Guanyin Temple + live reactions
(Live Wei Wuxian reaction is inspired by this wonderful gifset)
#cqlv#nie huaisang#jin guangyao#wei wuxian#jiang cheng#jin ling#wen ning#lan wangji#lan sizhui#*mgifs#this whole set is mostly about nhs's face. the acting lmaoo. he shouted out 'watch out' and he does that surprised face while lxc stabs jgy#what a guy#the lest gif is fun to me only I think lol#cw blood#cqllv
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Nie Huaisang: If you took a shot for every time you made a bad decision, how drunk would you be? Lan Xichen: Maybe a little tipsy? *says the guy who can burn alcohol with his Golden Core* Lan Wangji: I don't drink! Jiang Cheng: Unconscious! Wei Wuxian: Wasted. Jin Guangyao: Dead. Nie Huaisang, between his teeths: Yeah because i would have poisoned your drink, asshole!
#Lan Xichen#Nie Huaisang#Lan Wangji#Jiang Cheng#Wei Wuxian#Jin Guangyao#lxc#nhs#lwj#wwx#jgy#jc#mdzs#mdzs incorrect quotes
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I have been pondering the recent rash of "post canon NHS and LXC would never ever reconcile bc even if NHS wanted to have Er-ge back, LXC would never ever forgive him for [insert reason of choice here]" type of posts + the "do you think NHS thinks very hard about how much Da-ge would hate him for becoming [the way that he is now] by choosing to seek vengeance" type of posts, and I think fundamentally the reason these posts do not jive with me is that we have no indication, in the show or in the book that uh, NHS gives a shit about either of these things very much anymore?
The first type of post is predicated on the assumption that LXC's forgiveness or lack thereof some some sort of either extension of mercy (which NHS obviously does not deserve <- or so assumes the post) or some form of punishment (which is obviously the correct answer) but the last scene we get with NHS both in the book and the show make no indication that this is a thing he wants? Or cares about? Book NHS has *sauntered off* with his little hat trophy and Show NHS walks off screen after saying something along the lines of "What is my responsibility I won't shirk, what isn't my responsibility I won't care about." Now, arguably, show NHS is having a worse go of it emotionally, but shows no real inclination or interest in either apologies or making up and being friends again with LWJ, LXC, WWX, or other people. Book NHS seems pretty pleased with the outcome of the events as a whole?
The second type of post is predicated on the fact that NHS finds Da-ge's judgement a horrible burden to bear at this stage in the game, which! He might! But again especially in the book we get no indication that he has any fucks left to give about what Da-ge may or may not have wanted since Da-ge is dead. In both the show and the book, NHS went about revenge taking very specific and complicated actions with the desired result of JGY dying, but he certainly took the scenic route getting there, which, he didn't need to? As I've written about before, JGY didn't see him as a threat. If he wanted JGY dead he could've arranged to poison JGY's tea like, 10 years ago and had done with it instead of his complicated Rube Goldberg life ruining scheme. If he is still sickly anxious about how Da-ge might feel about the scheming and the trouble causing and the whole everything, that's certainly possible, but he must've decided it was worth it anyway regardless of that, and I don't know that it necessarily would've changed just because he got what he wanted at the end.
Overall, I think as a fandom we think a lot about like "will and should this relationship ever be repaired or similar to how it used to be?" and "does this character deserve/not deserve the forgiveness of people they've hurt or abandoned?" which can be interesting questions! I do feel like these are often taken as "is a character morally good (deserves to be forgiven) or morally bad (deserves to rot in hell forever never forgiven ever ever)" and based entirely on if Character is the meta writer's blorbo. Under this paradigm the concept of "Character did bad things to get exactly what they wanted and were happy about that and no relationships were ever repaired and the emotional detachment of people they used to care about no longer matters to them!" is uncomfortable.
It's just that for NHS I've increasingly come to the conclusion that canonically, I don't think NHS thinks he has anything to apologize for, nor is he super interested in being forgiven! He got what he wanted the way he wanted it to happen. Which is potentially supremely unsatisfying but I think is very sexy as a narrative concept.
#like for the record#nie huaisang IS my blorbo#and I like a good reconciliation fic and nhs is feeling some kind of way about everything fic like#at LEAST as much as the rest of us if not more#but these POSTS I keep seeing mostly serve to bludgeon him with the 'punishment' of LXC's unforgiveness or NMJ's judgment#as a means to say he was wrong and should repent and probably shouldn't've murdered JGY or something#I don't think this punishment works canonically because he appears to give no shits about this anymore#anyway#meta#my meta#nie huaisang#nie huaisang my beloved
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"it's not that the cultivation world didn't want to listen it's that wxx just pushed everyone away" I wanted to have the confidence in an elitist system the way this person has, I think my life would be wayyyy easier.
If you think for a second that a system that is naturally structured to let those at the top stay at the top and for those at the bottom to stay at the bottom would hear wwx when he's literally going against that then I don't know what to tell you about the real world.
#the fact you think had wwx communicated something jgs would let him do anything without surrending the seal is beyond me#which he wouldn't!!!!!!! he would never give that man the seal#even if wwx had people behind him jgs would not let that go unchecked#any reason would be a reason to set him up and kill him because he wouldn't give up the seal#the why nhs got lxc to kill jgy would be the way they'd probably get wwx killed because there'd be no trust on him#wei wuxian#mdzs#i meant *the way* nhs got.....y'know
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i don't think enough people talk about how the backbone of nie huaisang's plan hinged heavily upon jin guangyao's low birth, and the jianghu's willingness to dogpile on such people.
nie huaisang is upper class. he's specifically stated in the novel as behaving more like the idle rich than like a distinguished second young master of one of the five great cultivation sects, but he's still an heir by birth. even if nie huaisang had been more openly caught, who would do anything to him?
wei wuxian notices that bicao's testimony was bought with a few shiny baubles— that nie huaisang was the one who bribed her with a nice bracelet for her testimony. he intentionally kept his own sect half dead, barely afloat for years, just to keep up the guise of an incompetent loser!
but the only actual consequence he's faced for such poor leadership that probably hurt a lot of common folks in his territory over 13 years is that people think nie huaisang is an annoying, useless crybaby. nie huaisang has a level of protection from consequences that jin guangyao had to fight much harder for (and that jin guangyao ultimately never truly got).
nie huaisang knew his own class and social position extremely well, and he knew how most people of that position behave and think. he was more than willing to use this in his revenge.
we know lan wangji is the type to use his wealth and position to do good for others. nie huaisang is the opposite— he's the type to use his wealth and position for himself and his own personal goals.
and this wasn't just something that started after his brother died! avoiding responsibilities, never carrying his sword, ignoring the fact that he wasn't honoring his sect or ancestors the way others wanted… his underground ring of selling porn as a teenager even got him out of the worst part of the wen indoctrination camps, because he bribed the wen cultivators overseeing everyone else.
my point is, nie huaisang is self-aware enough to know he doesn't really ever do the "right" thing! at no point in the story does he delude himself or others with grand ideals of how one ought to behave. he doesn't care.
unlike almost every single other upper class cultivator in the story— jiang cheng, jin zixuan, nie mingjue, lan xichen— who all think of themselves as righteous in a way, who are always able to justify their thoughts and actions, rarely if ever able to conceive of those thoughts and actions as flawed or wrong... nie huaisang KNOWS his own selfishness.
like lan wangji, nie huaisang recognizes that his class can easily be used as a shield to do whatever he wants. while lan wangji at worst uses this nifty privilege to silence people he doesn't like, refuse to explain himself in inconvenient situations, and bring wei wuxian along with him everywhere, nie huaisang uses it to shirk his duties for decades and tear jin guangyao apart in revenge.
jin guangyao being the son of a prostitute automatically amplifies bad rumors around him. bringing to light his incestuous marriage and the gruesome way he murdered his upper class father, however deserved, is obviously going to impact him in a way that someone higher class wouldn't be as hurt by. combining that with a final lie to get his sworn brother to stab him in a flash of doubt, and well...
is that good or righteous or just? no, of course not. nie huaisang doesn't spend any time pretending that his actions were conducted based on morality, or that he "had no choice".
nie huaisang just wanted to destroy jin guangyao, and damn did it feel good to finally do it.
#keri chats#nie huaisang#mdzs#mdzs spoilers#mo dao zu shi#Nie Huaisang Is A Callous Careless Self-Aware Rich Man Who Weaponized His Social Class Against The Guy Who Killed His Brother#I LOVE NHS SO MUCH OKAY BUT I MIGHT GO CRAZY IF MORE PPL INSINUATE HES RIGHTEOUS OR ''GOOD'' LOLLLL#i mean yea girlboss!! but i rly hope ppl r aware nhs is a man who's purposely written to embody the worst aspects of cultivator society.#also his plan was Not a deep orchestrated plot he outlined key points and improv'd that shit as best he could LMAO#also just bc NHS gets away with what he does doesn't make him morally grey. the narrative doesn't consider him a good person.#he's just the one who came out on top by the end of the book#other things: im sure ppl easily see why i'd consider jc jzx & nmj as not self-aware rich folks but lxc is a lot more subtle and#occasionally self-pitying in how he depicts himself and his clan to make them always conveniently seem like the good guys#even when he's recounting the story of how he +33 elders drew their swords against his injured stubborn younger brother.#if u read this whole messy unorganized post and my tags i love u. if u agree with me i Love u.
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wangxian academy days [part 1/?] -> part 1/2/3/4/5/6
#wangxian#mdzs#mo dao zu shi#wwx#lwj#wei wuxian#lan wangji#the untamed#cql#lxc#nhs#jc#lan xichen#nie huaisang#jiang cheng#gusu trio#魔道祖师#PINING INTENSIFIES#i'm planning on making a several part series of this#like the dimiclaude tea time i did years ago#and I'm not sure if I should post it part by part like on twt or post the whole thing once it's done#which means you would have to wait longer than twt people...
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Lan Xichen: Sect Leader Jiang, don't answer him. He is good at talking. Once you start to talk with him, your attention will be averted and emotion stimulated. You will want to cradle him in your arms, kiss him on the forehead, and confess your undying love for him. Jiang Cheng: Lan Wangji: Wei Wuxian: Jin Ling: Su She: Jin Guangyao: Jiang Cheng: No, I think that's just you.
#NHS 'woke up' just to give LXC a side eye#jin guangyao#lan xichen#xiyao#cql#youtube's subtitles btw#incorrect quotes
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y'all knew a meme was coming, hanted house modern au
blank template & refs 👇
#mdzs#memes#my art#fanart#jzx#jin zixuan#jyl#jiang yanli#wwx#wei wuxian#jc#jiang cheng#nhs#nie huaisang#wen ning#wen qing#lwj#lan wangji#lxc#lan xichen
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Sangcheng week Day 2 - Music
Even with all the effort that Nie-zongzhu put into not cultivating properly with the Nie sabers, he still starts suffering from Qi deviations just like his predecessors, due to accumulated heart demons from the past decade. He vehemently refuses to be treated with the song of clarity for the longest time and only finally relents when he is promised to be held through it and kept safe by his beloved.
(this time i went with the live-action flavour because i never tried that before and it was pretty fun change actually haha)
#my art#sangcheng week 23#sangcheng week 2023#sangcheng#nie huaisang#jiang cheng#mdzs#oughhh ykno hfgjhfdk#little meow meow whos condition is getting worse and he knows it but cant stomach the thought of being treated this way for obvious reasons#or paranoid NHS that goes 'normally they could kill me with it but since JC is here theyre not gonna im fair game but they wouldnt hurt him#ok ok ok whatever 😭😭#hkfd again u can interpret this however you like also#with even whos treating him like is it random disciple or LWJ or LXC or LQR etc etc#i personally am leaning towards LWJ because they should be friends cuz i said so ok#(and lxc is in the middle of struggle hours so jhfjdh)
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'jc is making himself miserable' is endless funny to me because how dare you jc act like a traumatized war veteran in a setting where therapy doesn't exist? How dare you be sad about your entire family's death? In particular when everyday you have to wake up in the same place where you all lived together and where your parents were brutally killed and you brutally tortured?? How dare you still grieve your sweet and beloved sister? How dare you??
#It's almost like he can't escape his responsibilities and duty to be able to process shit!#Maybe he should ditch his duty and elope with an hot guy who he never hurt personally so he can live blissfully without confronting nothing#Maybe he should kidnap jl and they should ditch their duty and live like rough cultivators#He should coax lxc and nhs too to follow them#I am being very normal about fictional characters uh
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Because of a failed expriment, Wei Wuxian meets others versions of himself who have been adopted by other sects and who have more of less differents lifes. He must help them to return to their own universe but learns interesting things about them.
So our WWX has to deal with:
- A Nie!Wei Wuxian, adopted by the Nie Sect at 5 (gave his Golden Core to Huaisang, was sworn brother with Jin Zuxian), knows Lan Zhan since he's 6. Was called Nie Ying and then Nie Wuxian until he does defection to save the Wen Survivors. And then the next actions are the same. Jin Zixuan dies, Jiang Yanli dies, Lan Wangji save A-Yuan but let the boy know his uncles. Wei Wuxian is brought back by Mo Xuanyu like in canon. He hate Jin Guangyao with passion for what he did to Mingjue during the war and what he did after, killing him with the music who should have helped him. In this universe Miánmián marry Mingjue so Huaisang and Wei Wuxian have a niece and a nephew (twins born 6 months before Mingjue's death). He knows what Huaisang did but said nothing because he's just proud of his brother. Nie Huaisang is a lot stronger in this universe.
- A Jin! Wei Wuxian has been found at 7 by Jin Zixuan. Wei Wuxian becomes a strong cultivator, a pride in his sect. He sees Jin Zixuan as his brother and loves to tease him. He knows Jin Zixuan feelings about Jiang Yanli and being forced to marry and help him to getting to know her better. He goes to help the Jiang when Lotus Piers is attacked by the Wen. Then he's captured and throw in the burial mounds. Following that, the events are the same than in canon. The incident on Qiongqi Path is even worse since Zixuan was Wei Wuxian's brother and this death broke him. Yanli doesn't die. And so Wei Wuxian is brought back by Mo Xuanyu 13 years later. He's very protective of Jin Ling and feel even more bad about Jin Zixuan dead. He hates Jin Guangyao with a burning rage when he learns the truth.
- A Lan!Wei Wuxian, adopted at 5 by Lan Qiren. He never lost his Golden Core and is renowned for his inventions. He never touched demonic cultivation and is married with Lan Zhan for years. He's sworn brother with Huaisang and Zixuan. He's the only Wei Wuxian to still have his old body. He didn't have to learn demonic cultivation and create a lot of things during the war who helped to win. When he has decided to save the Wen Survivors, he asks Lan Qiren and Lan Xichen to come with him. Since he's sworn brother wirh Jin Zixuan, he's still Jin Ling uncle. Nie Mingjue never died because Wei Wuxian was visiting Huaisang one day and heard Jin Guangyao playing the "song of clarity" and was like "wait something is wrong about it". And so Jin Guangyao was discovered to poisonning Mingjue with dangerous music and has had to face consequences. Mo Xuanyu never died because Zixuan and Yanli decided to literally adopt this new little brother. Lan!Wei Wuxian is the only one to not die and be bring back to life or to lose his golden core.
It's just funny to imagine that all the Wei Wuxian became good friend/brother/sworn brother with Jin Zuxian, except the canon!one who more or less dislikes him.
Also all the Wuxian are in love with Lan Zhan. They're soulmates.
Feel free to write it if you are inspired =)
#jin zixuan#wei wuxian#lan xichen#lan zhan#lan wangji#nie huaisang#nie mingjue#nhs#nmj#lxc#lwj#nie!wwx#lan!wwx#jin!wwx#mdzs fanfic#mdzs idea#other sect wei wuxian#wangxian#xuanli#jiang yanli#Nie!Wei Wuxian#Lan!Wei Wuxian#Jin!Wei Wuxian
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if the nie bros' age were switched, i don't think we would have mdzs lol wen ruohan would at minimum be MIA not long after nie dad's death, our older nie huaisang does not joke on duty! and people would never know what truly happened, but nie mingjue has some suspicions he does not say out loud
#bamf nie huaisang#pair this with wen!wei wuxian if you please#mdzs would be about this abused child who ends up as a clan leader#and arranges his own marriage with that guy from school#nie huaisang#nie mingjue#nie brothers#qinghe nie#this could either be nhs marrying a woman to produce heirs and his baby bro happily living as single forever#or#nielan#but make it nie huaisang#idk about you guys but i LOVE xisang#mdzs#mdzs headcanons#mdzs imagine#also pls bottom lxc pls
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