#( verse ❀ deus ex machina )
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smileflowcr · 3 months ago
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Ir de distrito en distrito es algo normal para él, tomando diversos trabajos sin importar qué tan arriesgados sean, tal vez porque en el fondo desea encontrar la muerte -sin importarle si es dolorosa o no- y así, detener los latidos de su corazón. Encuentra calma al caminar por las diferentes ciudades bajo las luces que decoran tiendas clandestinas, donde se puede encontrar des locales de comidas hasta prótesis robadas. Cada humano sobrevive a su manera, tomando trabajos que podían acabar con la poca humanidad que les queda, mientras otros esperan pacientemente cerrar los ojos para siempre entre la basura o escombros de edificios abandonados. Bulyeong ha encontrado tantos cuerpos que dejó de contarlos hace tiempo, al principio sentía incomodidad al tocar la fría piel de los cadáveres, teniendo malos recuerdos de quienes fueron su familia hace cientos de años y debió despedir para siempre, guardando en una pequeña cajita bajo su cama el juguete favorito de cada uno, siendo el único objeto que se llevó consigo cuando decidió huir con Haneul y Sooan.
Los colores neón del Distrito 5 parpadeaban, dando un aspecto más terrorífico a las calles y podía jurar escuchar gritos entre los callejones. Quizás eran pandillas enfrentándose por el territorio, o los soldados de la luz de Ciudad Luminosa buscando nuevos sujetos de pruebas, sea quién sea no iba a recibir ayuda, porque Bulyeong mantiene la vista en un cuerpo que yace en un montón de chatarra, con sangre y heridas a su alrededor. Se inclina hacia adelante para tocar la piel y comprobar si sigue respirando, sin embargo una extraña pero familiar sensación recorre por su espalda y está seguro que su rostro palidece. ¿Por qué? ¿Por qué ese chico le recuerda a Sooan? No se parecen en nada físicamente, pero la calidez que transmite es la misma a la de su amado a pesar que hay un agujero en su pecho. No tiene mucho tiempo para dudar pues percibe pasos a la distancia y en su dirección, así que carga al joven en sus brazos y se dirige corriendo al único lugar y persona en quién confía. Conoce cada distrito como la palma de su mano, por lo que trazar una ruta hacia el 1 no es tarea difícil, logrando camuflarse entre las sombras y asustando con la mirada a cualquier intruso que se sienta atraído. “¿Quién eres…?” pregunta en vano, el muchacho estaba al borde de la muerte y lo sabe por la forma que respira. Bulyeong se muerde el labio de la angustia, apresurando la marcha hasta llegar a unos suburbios que no conoce pero que su amigo describió con lujo de detalles en las cartas. Nunca creyó que volvería a él y si lo hacía, es porque fue capaz de enterar el amor para siempre. Se para frente a la puerta, dudando si habla, podía tocar, dejar al chico e irse antes que lo descubriera, no obstante su cuerpo se rehúsa a marcharse, diciéndole a gritos que hay algo especial en el humano que carga, algo que los conecta. “Sooan, soy yo, abre la puerta, es urgente.” Sus manos tiemblan y un dolor nace en su pecho, acompañado del mismo miedo que no ha experimentado desde que escaparon del laboratorio y su única preocupación era proteger a Sooan. “Alguien te necesita— yo te necesito, María, por favor.” La desesperación le obliga alzar la voz,  sujetando con fuerza el cuerpo del humano y sintiendo cómo va perdiendo su calor.
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eliza-makepeace · 1 year ago
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funny when, in inheritance, there’s a moment when saphira tries to help eragon by lending him her power, and he says she can’t help him because it’s “his mountain to climb”. she tries to argue but he replies with “besides, if i were flying, it would be on borrowed wings, and i would gain nothing by it other than the cheap thrill of an unearned victory”
i totally agree with the sentiment and i’d think it’s great of him to say so, if it wasn’t for the fact that that’s exactly what the blood oath celebration has done for him. i understand that, narratively speaking, the main reason for making eragon into an elf is because, otherwise, it would’ve been insanely hard for him to acquire the abilities necessary to defeat galbatorix, but i sitll think it’s a very cheap way of making him get the upper hand, or, if not that, a chance to win. i mean, in the end, paolini makes his own villain so impossible to defeat that he needs to fundamentally alter his main character in order to allow the story’s climax to take place. 
and then the fact that having eragon say this now makes him into a bit of a hypocrite. like, he has such a problem with saphira helping him now, “because it just wouldn’t be an earned victory” but he didn’t seem to mind when the elves made him look like them and have their abilities, even though he obviously hadn’t worked to achieve them by himself in the first place. i’m the first one that finds the whole “eragon gets a few months of learning x and suddenly he’s really good at it” a bit annoying, but i’d rather have that than him being an elf for all intents and purposes.
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blacksvans · 5 months ago
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Yojeong, ¿qué es lo que piensas honestamente de tu hermano Yohan?
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❝ ¿Qué pienso de Hannie? Que es un tonto ❞ Nadie en sus cinco sentidos podría pensar eso de uno de los creadores del cerebro del Adán, pero ella, su hermana mayor y por ende persona con más experiencia en la vida, lo creía. ❝ Tuvo un berrinche y abandonó su trono solo para bajar a una tierra perdida y prontamente controlada, creo que no puedo sentir otra cosa más que lastima por él y su querido amigo… ❞ Los Ji tenían controlado y observado al doctor, sabiendo que vivía ahora con una chica rescatada de un laboratorio, su conejo experimentado y que su mejor amigo no era más que un orgánico cualquiera. ❝ Pero a él le gusta maldecir a Dios y jugar contra la corriente, será interesante cuando los días del apocalipsis lleguen. ❞
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mikrokosmcs · 2 years ago
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Luego  de  las  respectivas  charlas  con  sus  mecánicos  y  de  que  Suyeong  reflexionara  sobre  todo  lo  que  Karel  estaba  pasando  y  él,  no  estaba  siendo  un  buen  amigo  o  compañero  al  intentar  entenderlo,  las  cosas  entre  los  dos  se  calmaron  notablemente.  No  debía  ser  fácil  para  Karel  lidiar  con  toda  esa  información  nueva,  con  todas  esas  personas  que  sabían  más  de  su  propio  futuro  que  él  mismo  y  claro  estaba,  el  estrés  de  no  estar  en  su  lugar  seguro  y  en  la  luminiscencia  que  traía  la  ciudad,  estaba  cobrándole  factura.  Suyeong  intentó  no  agregar  más  estrés  obligándolo  a  probar  bocado,  sabiendo  lo  mucho  que  lo  aborrecía  ahora,  solo  dejando  ciertos  batidos  preparados  antes  de  salir  a  los  basureros  a  patrullar.  Se  movieron  a  varias  bases  de  NIMDA,  queriendo  acabar  con  las  prodiciones  de  una  antes  de  moverse  a  otra.  Esos  lugares  eran  tranquilos,  pero  por  lo  poco  que  Morris  lograba  recabar  al  conectarse  con  servidores  de  la  ciudad,  las  cosas  no  estaban  mejor  y  ahora  los  pro-androides  estaban  detrás  de  la  cabeza  de  todos  los  miembros  de  NIMDA.  Pronto  estarían  buscando  esos  escondites  en  medio  de  la  nada  y  es  cuando  realmente,  estarían  en  problemas.  Por  ende,  el  más  bajo  ideó  una  estrategia  nueva,  un  plan  diferente  y  aunque  era  muchísimo  más  riesgoso,  si  se  consumaba,  podrían  tener  más  seguridad  que  en  aquellos  escondites.  Fue  en  ese  instante,  donde  colocó  todas  sus  monedas  en  la  apuesta.    
El  rugido  de  la  motocicleta  se  apaga  dentro  de  un  edificio  abandonado,  cubriéndola  con  plásticos  negros  que  encontró  en  los  alrededores  para  cuando  llegase  el  momento  de  volver  a  usarla  o  si  una  emergencia  sucedía.  Suyeong  pasó  su  capucha  por  encima  de  la  cabeza  y  ayuda  a  Karel  a  acomodar  la  propia,  al  igual  que  la  máscara  sobre  su  rostro  que  le  brindaba  uno  nuevo,  Morris  había  liderado  el  camino  susurrando  en  su  oído  si  es  que  había  personas  o  seguridad  publica  alrededor,  moviéndose  como  en  un  laberinto  hasta  que  alguien  le  abrió  las  puertas  traseras  de  Crystal  Heart.  Su  brazo  se  mantiene  alrededor  de  Karel  en  todo  momento,  la  otra  mano  está  lista  para  desenfundar  el  arma  en  su  muslo.  Caminan  en  silencio  por  pasillos  de  metal,  subiendo  un  elevador  hasta  la  parte  más  alta  del  burdel  donde  la  Madam  esperaba.  Las  puertas  se  corren  y  Sonia  aguarda  en  sus  propios  aposentos  en  la  cabeza  de  una  mesa  baja  rodeada  de  sake  y  té  caliente,  dos  cojines  les  esperan  a  él  y  Saem  como  invitados.  Suspira,  por  fin  pudiendo  destensarse  y  quitarse  la  capucha  del  rostro.  -  —Ha  pasado  tiempo,  gracias  por  permitir  que  nos  quedemos  —  -la  mujer,  con  una  pipa  larga  y  uñas  rojas  cual  carmín  parece  inmutable  por  el  tiempo,  su  negro  cabello  está  en  un  recogido  y  algunos  mechones  caen  alrededor  de  su  rostro,  los  ojos  de  un  color  similar  a  sus  uñas  indican  que  son  un  obsequio  dado  por  alguien  antes  de  desecharla  hace  muchos  años  atrás.  Exhala  el  humo  de  su  tabaco,  moviendo  la  mano  restante  como  si  quitara  importancia.  “Eres  como  mi  niño,  Suyeong.  ¿Una  madre  la  cierra  las  puertas  de  su  casa  a  su  propio  hijo?”  No  sabe  si  son  las  palabras  o  es  la  frustración ��de  todos  esos  días  inciertos  que  le  hacen  tener  un  nudo  en  la  garganta,  inclinándose  para  tomar  aquella  misma  mano  y  besar  como  siempre,  las  joyas  en  sus  dedos.  Suyeong  se  queda  apoyando  su  frente  en  la  extremidad,  necesitando  esos  segundos  de  consuelo  de  alguien  a  quien  respeta  y  admira.  “Estoy  feliz  de  saber  que  estás  con  vida”.
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divinesorciere · 1 year ago
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@viikingwitch | continued from here.
              That's a thought Davina's been avoiding. Their loved ones, while the list is relatively small for them both ( as well as she knows ), do have a few overlaps. It's what she has always hated about fighting Mikaelsons. Until she broke that damned sireline, the lives of most of the people she loved were connected to that of her enemy.
              Even after it was broken, she was presented with a new problem. Kol's plans for Klaus had never once been to put him down permanently, not like how Davina always wanted to. For better or worse, no matter how much he used him and abandoned him when he was done, Klaus was Kol's brother, and he did love him. Even Marcel loved him. They all did, and she never understood why.
              She faces a similar dilemma, even now. What if she had wanted another fight? One to end things once and for all? With such a close circle of loved ones, lines would have to be drawn in the sand, and she was only truly confident about one person being on her side.
              And she never, ever wanted to force them to face Freya. As much as Davina isn't afraid ( will never admit to being afraid ) of them anymore, a part of her holds a healthy wariness around them all. They are old and powerful and cruel in a way that she probably isn't hopes she isn't.
              If she has to put down old grudges to keep herself, and her people safe, she will. From the surety with which Freya declared herself a protector, she would have to.
              There is still one thing that bothers her. “I don't get you. Why are you so willing to throw away your life, and everyone else's, to protect them?” Even still, there's a more personal question at the forefront of her mind, and has been for a while. “Are you gonna give up your magic to be a vampire and protect them for the rest of your life?”
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klm-zoflorr · 2 months ago
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Agnes Montague, the villain Phoenix :33
I used a stained glass filter on this one, looove how it looks. Also here are a few versions without as much editing so you can see the details.
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Agnes is one of my favorites in this AU. And in general too I guess lol. So I made her entirely too overpowered! She's obviously based off Dark Phoenix/Jean Grey/The Phoenix from Xmen. Without as much of the hero-turned-villain vibes Jean has, Agnes can be nice but she's mostly a wrong-doer.
I'd probably say she's the most powerful super-human in the 'verse, or at least where the story takes place. Her and Magnus are buddy-buddies because. Um. I just want them to be.
So, her powers, right. She can control and
produce fire, lots of it. She can fly. The wings only appear when she wants them to btw. I think she has some form of telekinesis, sure why not plus I don't have a lot of people like that in the verse (and I'm quickly running out of canon characters anyways loool). I don't think I'll give her too many psychic powers? Maybe just some ability to block psychic attacks. Oh well nevermind lets just make her cooler let's say she can attack people psychically, as in not quite read their thoughts (even if I think she could grasp on some of the things you're thinking while she's there) but like, cause intense pain to her victim and maybe even kill them by hitting them with her mind.
Her hands are more like talons or claws, with tough nails and strong, too. She can rip someone's face off or hold herself up with them.
The nature of her powers make them somewhat incontrollable and ill-suited for precision work or limiting damage/casualties.
Despite all of that, Agnes is very tired and looks as such. Her abnormal body warmth makes her sleep poorly and not very much, if she isn't setting the room on fire or throwing objects around when she's having nightmares. She holds off from getting intoxicated in any way because she might level off the whole island if she did.
And the cherry on the cake... She can ressurect herself. AND others. Let the holy cleansing fire engulf you and be reborn anew with your sins scrubbed clean yadda yadda you know the deal. It resets people to a younger age and cures any ailment they have, so that's a rather extreme form of healing too if you will.
Naturally, with that sort of powers the Cult Of The Lightless Flame (named like that because Agnes hoggs all the light) treats her as a goddess. Which isn't that far from the truth actually.
Suffice to say in the story she is not the big bad our heroes have to take down because that would be straight-up impossible.
Design notes and misc:
-I usually imagine her with dark hair, but for this AU she really just had to be a redhead I feel.
-Yes, in the art she doesn't have feet but that's just because I got lazy.
-She wears practical gloves, a guilded shiny supersuit, impractical shoulder pads and a white flowy skirt and shoulder sash that both get set on fire very frequently. This is meant to evoke how she mostly doesn't care or need to be dressing appropriately for fighting, she's too powerful to need to.
-She doesn't carry anything on herself either, no pockets no bags no nothing, she has goons for that. She's just there to look impressive and deus ex machina everyone's asses to the ground if they get too annoying.
-She's lived a long life, done a lot, was in the military at some point which influenced a lot of how she thinks. Again, she CAN be unfrivolous and practical, she just doesn't want to and has to remain a symbol. She can shoot a gun pretty well.
-Her "crown" (it's a paper crown) is something children that admired her gave her. She's very very careful not to burn it, but can't wear it everywhere either
-She's not much of a strategizer or a long-term planner unlike Magnus, she just doesn't see the point in that and she already has everything she could ever want. She could have the potential to rule the city instead of having everyone vaguely follow her lead, but she's just not much of a tyrant.
Oh, yeah, and Jude. Jude Perry is Agnes' right hand woman and closest friend, her villain name is Lampadarius and she can make anything that isn't organic matter melt/heat up (like those cans in MAG012: First Aid). One of her favorite tricks is heating up her gloves and burning people like that. It pisses her off when you call her Agnes' guard dog. She's been ressurected a few times by the Phoenix, so been around for a while too.
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Look rationally I know that in the world to the Silt Verses, the evidence suggests that gods are primordial forces of chaos without conscious thought (or at least not conscious thought that's intelligible to human beings) but that's only half the equation. That's the in-universe Watsonian reading of the text.
From a Doylist perspective, though, the actions of the gods frequently serve as plot devices (though post modern audiences generally scoff at deus ex machina, I don't intend that as a criticism fwiw - beautifully told, deeply meaningful stories can feature divine intervention at regular intervals, eg: the works of Homer).
So while it's debatable if the Trawlerman is capable of loving humans or picking favorites, one fact is abundantly clear: Carpenter is quite transparently Jon Ware's blorbo. Anyway. Who said that.
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liketwoswansinbalance · 7 months ago
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SGE Characters as Literary Things
(Not all of these are actual literary or rhetorical devices; some are just writing techniques, forms, genres, mediums, etc.)
This is a bit abstract, so I’m curious about how subjective these might be. Does anyone agree or disagree? And feel free to make additions if you think I left anything out, or request another character that isn’t here.
Hopefully this makes (intuitive?) sense. As always, I'm willing to explain my thought process behind any of the things I've listed.
Also, anyone can treat this like a “Tag Yourself” meme, if you want. Whose list do you most relate to, use, or encounter?
LANCELOT (I know—how odd that I’m starting with a minor character and not Rafal, but wait. There’s a method to my madness. Also, watch out for overlap!):
Metonymy, synecdoche (no, literally, to me, these are him.)
Zeugma
Analogy
Figures of speech
Slang, argot
Colloquialisms
Idioms
TEDROS:
Simile
Metaphor
Rhyming couplets
Rhyme schemes
Sonnets
Commercial fiction
Coming-of-age genre
Line enjambment
Overuse of commas
Cadence, prose speech
Waxing poetic, verse (not prose)
Alliteration
Kinesthetic imagery
Phallic imagery/sword sexual innuendos (sorry)
The chivalric romance genre
AGATHA:
Anaphora, repetition
Semicolon, periods
Line breaks
Terse, dry prose
Semantics (not syntax)
Elegy
Resonance
Consonance, alliteration
Pseudonym
Narrative parallels
Realism
Satire
SOPHIE:
Sophistry (yes, there is a word for it!)
Imagery
Italics, emphasis
Em dash
Aphrodisiac imagery
Unreliable narrator, bias
Rashomon effect
Syntax (not semantics)
Diction
Chiasmus (think: “Fair is foul and foul is fair.”)
Rhetorical purpose
Provocation, calls to action
Voice, writing style
Rhetorical modes: pathos, logos, ethos
Metaphor
Hyperbole, exaggeration
Sensationalism, journalism
Surrealism
Verisimilitude
Egocentrism
Callbacks (but not foreshadowing or call-forwards)
Narrative parallels
Paralepsis, occultatio, apophasis, denial
Hypothetical dialogue
Monologue
JAPETH:
Sibilance
Lacuna
Villanelle (an obsessive, repetitive form of poetry)
Soliloquy
ARIC:
Sentence fragments
RHIAN (TCY):
Unreliable narrator
Setup, payoff
Chekhov’s gun
Epistolary novel
RHIAN (prequels):
Multiple povs
Perspective
Dramatic irony
Situational irony
Chiaroscuro (in imagery)
Endpapers
Frontispiece
Deckled edges
Narrative parallels
Foreshadowing
Call-forwards
Foil
Death of the author
RAFAL:
Omniscient narrator
Perspective
Surrealism
Etymology
Word families or 'linguistic ecosystems'
Latin
Verbal irony
Gallows humor
Narrative parallels
Call-forwards
Circular endings
Parallel sentences or balanced sentence structure
Narrative parallels
Foil
Juxtaposition
Authorial intent (“return of the author”)
HESTER:
Protagonist
Allusions
Gothic imagery
ANADIL:
Defamiliarization
Deuteragonist (second most important character in relation to the protagonist)
Psychic distance
Sterile prose
Forewords, prologues
Works cited pages
DOT:
Tone
Gustatory imagery
Tritagonist (third most important character in relation to the protagonist)
KIKO:
Sidekick
Falling action
Dedications, author's notes, epigraph, acknowledgements
Epitaph (Tristan)
BEATRIX:
Pacing
Rising Action
Climax
HORT:
Unrequited love
Falling resolution
Anticlimax
Malapropism
Innuendo
Asides
Brackets, parentheses
Cliché
EVELYN SADER:
Synesthetic imagery
Villanelle
Foreshadowing
AUGUST SADER:
Stream of consciousness style
Imagery
Foreshadowing
Coming-of-age genre
Elegy
Omniscience
Rhetorical questions
Time skips, non-linear narratives
Epilogues
MARIALENA:
Diabolus ex machina
Malapropism
Malaphors, mixed metaphors
Slant rhyme
Caveat
Parentheses
Footnotes
MERLIN:
Deus ex machina
Iambic pentameter
Filler words
BETTINA:
Screenwriting
Shock value
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sterlingarcher23 · 9 months ago
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Max's memories are forshadowing: ElMax & Lumax
Inventive foreshadowing creates a sense of unity in a story even when the audience may not be consciously aware of the foreshadowing and payoff., David Trottier
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Sort of. The happy memories actually give us the basic structure of Max's character arc in regards to relationships in Season 5. (As far as there is scene material because I think there's something else.)
Now the first thing is Lucas & Max from S4, but then they start to show us several scenes but completely out of order.
Lucas "I'm right here" (at her bedside - S4 or 5?), Swallowing the red Skittle/the ghost like Pac-Man mid flight ("You were wearing that yellow benny's burgers t-shirt and it was so big it almost swallowed you whole")=consumption of a ghost, followed by the linking sequence, going back to S2 apso out of order, the boys meeting the killer & Lucas and Dustin teaming with Max, the ghost trap, photos of ElMax, like frozen in time (Doctor Who=single moment in time). Lucas and Max when he calls her Madmax (like Mad Max Rockatansky), again ElMax together ....
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...even Mike appears (a talk between him & Max like Kota and Lucy having a conversation?), foreshadowing the movie date, ElMax hugging, Lumax not unhappy and, Highfive! Winners.
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Lover in the mind - lover in the physical world.
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Lucas speaks to the dying (physical), El speaks to the going (mind).
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Both have patterns that need another verse in order to rhyme bc of a tiny change midway through (similar to a certain D&D bridge puzzle😉)
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Elumax Endgame.
Byler on the left, ElMax on the right, both when Will or Max respectively, have their possession phase.
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Oh, and the movie date scene is a basic story writing technique: a promise. And this needs a payoff. The question isn't IF but HOW. (And how you get abilities is been established in Season 4.)
It's you and me won't be unhappy.... Promise, progress, payoff.
So, they made a promise, are now (with the revival) in the process of a progress which will be added through the way how Max will wake up....
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...and this will get a payoff. Simple. Right now, most can't imagine how, given the circumstances even though the writers gave us the rules for doing it and every foreshadowing possible that will lead to a payoff. Max can't feel nor see - both! So, either both will be mended or none. Excluding one is bad writing. - So, its both. We learned how, therefore it's not a Deus ex machina, and we will learn why. Max only needs to take his, I mean her medicine. Darn pronouns.
That payoff is only possible through ElMax and note how they use sequences with them in which they are physically close to one another after the mall scene in which they link, like they are...inseparable.
Here separated...
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...after this they are combined. Linked. "Love goes through the stomach"
It's all One and One for all = 11
A bit dated (admittedly)
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sundered-souls · 4 months ago
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I still think Dawntrail could have benefited from a time skip of a few years. First so the twins could grow up but also in a way to 'solve' off screen some stuff to give them more leeway with the story.
I'm pretty sure they couldn't because they were working on the graphical update and that would have asked them to actualize so many NPC dialogues, etc. that they just couldn't be everywhere all at once.
But still, I'm tempted to have a time skip in my WoL verse regardless.
This way, the twins would be done with Garlemald and that's why they're looking for a change of path; Y'shtola wrote the book she said she wanted to write and kept studying shard travel so that when she inevitably finds the solution to what took one century in the Doomed Timeline, she doesn't find it in three months top, etc. (I know, there's the deus ex machina Azem's key, but still.); the Scions would have actually disbanded at least for a few years, etc.
And that'd also mean Aïcha's daughter would be older and this way I can use the children models to pose her (priorities).
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smileflowcr · 28 days ago
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"¿Vienes por más información?" no le fue difícil entrar a las cámaras de seguridad de la zona, esa mañana despertó con la sensación que tendría una agradable visita y no estaba seguro si era la policía de aquella ciudad que le arrebató todo o la persona con quien está trabajando. Afortunadamente fue la segunda opción, alegrándose de no tener que manchar sus manos de sangre. "La buena noticia es que tengo la ubicación de un Apostol, la mala es que su distrito está sumido en la violencia y será complicado acercarnos."
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littlesparklight · 6 months ago
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I am curious is Aphrodite the origin of all love and can people fall in love without the influence of Aphrodite because these verses
May pure Artemis look upon this band in compassion, and may marriage never come through Cytherea's (Aphrodite's) compulsion. -Aeschylus: The Suppliant, 1030ff.
May sovereign Zeus spare me cruel marriage with a man I hate, that very Zeus who mercifully freed lo from pain, restoring her with healing hand by kindly force. - Aeschylus: The Suppliant, 1062ff.
Seem to imply that you can fall in love without the influence of Aphrodite, In one verse it is asked that the band of women find marriage without Aphrodite's compulsion, and then a few verses later they are asking Zeus that they not be stuck in a marriage with someone they hate… which seems to imply that Aphrodite can force people to but she is not the origin of love itself
Hmm, I don't think that's what this speech of the Danaides implies or even outright says.
I am not (really, really not lol) going to claim I know/have read enough to say anything at all authoritative here! The question, especially, of the... degrees? of Aphrodite's possible direct influence is still very murky and confusing to me.
But.
For the Suppliant Women specifically, the situation for the play is that the Danaides are fleeing marriage with their cousins because they don't want to marry them. And, even their father doesn't want them to marry their cousins. Some scholia (to the Iliad and Prometheus Desmotes) say that Danaos was given an oracle that said he'd be killed by one of his brother's sons, though in addition there's also a quarrel with Aigyptos himself.
Throughout the play, the Danaides are appealing to Zeus as Zeus Xenios (they are suppliants and guests in Argos), and to Artemis, noted sworn virgin, so they can avoid marriage with their cousins specifically, but, given Artemis' involvement, also marriage entirely. Marriage is as much part of Aphrodite's domain (through, well, sex) as plain desire. "The pleasurable works of marriage" as Zeus says in the Iliad.
However, even with their rejection of marriage, there's also this bit in the middle of the speech you've quoted parts of:
"Yet there is no disdain of Cypris in this our friendly hymn; [1035] for she, together with Hera, holds power nearest to Zeus, and for her solemn rites the goddess of varied wiles is held in honor.
And in the train of their mother are Desire and she to whom nothing is denied, [1040] winning Persuasion; and to Harmonia has been given a share of Aphrodite, and to the whispering touches of the Loves."
Aphrodite also is in the single fragment we have of the Danaides play, arguing for marriage as a cosmic principle, and Gantz in his Early Greek myth suggests Aphrodite might have had part as the deus ex machina in the resolution of the footrace that will see the Danaides married to various Argive youths.
Then we have the fifth Homeric Hymn, too, the "big" one to Aphrodite. This hymn isn't straightforward, since Aphrodite is shamed as well as exalted, her power extolled as well as circumscribed (and once, by Zeus in this one instance, usurped). But aside from Hestia, Athena and Artemis, mortals, gods and animals are all tamed/broken/yoked by Aphrodite (damazo), like a husband tames/breaks/yokes a wife; there is no other (source of) power in love/desire but Aphrodite.
So no, I don't think there's an idea that Aphrodite isn't actually the source of all attraction, whether she literally "forces" someone into it or not.
That "force"/compulsion, too, is part of how Ancient Greek culture conceived of love/desire at all; the lover is "compelled" into love/desire, and the source is Aphrodite (or Eros, but that, again, means Aphrodite). You see it a lot in lyric poetry about desire/love, whether for a boy or a girl/woman.
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shapeshiftershenan1gans · 1 year ago
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Just listened to the new Second Citadel episode....
First of all
WHAAAAAAAT THE FUUUUUUUUUCK FUUUUCK YOUUUUU HARLEY AND KEVIN
WHAT DO YOU MEAN GALLAHAD IS THE ONLY REASON ALE'S BEEN TRAVELING WITH THEM FUUUUUUCK YOUUUUUU SO MUCH FOR THAT
Ok, now
CAN WE TALK ABOUT UNHINGED QUANYII???
I love them even more now! That evil laugh! No "YoU cAn'T cHoKe DaMiEn AnYmOrE"
THEIR EYES ARE OPEN NOW
No power in the verse can stop them now
Although it's very deus ex machina and kinda lazy? to just throw them in and *poof* we can pilot a plane... 🙄
Though I do love what they did with the pilot xD
✨Juust gonna take this✨
He was an asshole and needed to shut up
So, thank you Quanyii :3
so, are we gonna go after Caroline and Olala down there, and see the rest of the land?
And wtf do you mean monsters and traitors?
And now
WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU MEAN YOU'RE SEPARATING THE RAD BOUQUET AGAAAAAIN????
FUCK YOU AGAIN FOR THIS (I hope you stub your toes on EVERY corner of your house)
My baby Arum is gonna be alone 🥺
Don't you dare kill him T.T
*angry screech*
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mikrokosmcs · 2 years ago
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you didn’t think i’d just let you get away with all this teasing, right ?  + [VIBRATION]
Noah  siente  el  primer  pinchazo  de  placer  en  el  centro  de  su  ser,  es  una  descarga  que  le  corre  desde  dentro  hacia  afuera  y  no  puede  evitar  reírse  a  pesar  de  que  la  vulnerabilidad  del  momento,  le  tenía  en  completa  desventaja  ante  el  pelirrojo.  Había  sido  un  juego  divertido  que  iniciaba  como  todo  lo  que  ellos  hacían,  de  forma  salvaje  y  descontrolada,  decidiendo  agregar  pequeñas  cosas  a  sus  encuentros  que,  aunque  dispersos,  para  Noah  significaban  que  seguía  teniendo  valor  y  que  Taekyung  seguía  gustando  de  su  persona.  El  juguete  descansaba  perfectamente  bien  dentro  de  su  ser,  seguramente  tibio  y  probablemente  completamente  humedecido  por  la  preparación  que  sus  propios  dedos  hicieron  en  su  persona.  Envió  un  enlace  entre  la  conexión  personal  del  hacker  y  él,  junto  con  un  mensaje  escrito  desde  “m3l1ss4”  que  como  su  nombre  código  indicaba,  era  un  mensaje  sugerente  y  que  abriese  el  adjunto  cuando  creyera  que  estaba  listo  para  usarlo.  Noah  era  un  mocoso,  uno  que  gustaba  de  la  atención  y  no  era  para  menos  que  luego  de  su  actuación  sobre  el  escenario,  decidiera  probar  su  suerte  y  tentar  su  valía  yéndose  a  otra  mesa  con  un  cliente  que  no  era  ni  por  asomo,  Taekyung.  Lo  provocó,  se  ganó  que  le  castigue  y,  aun  así,  se  sentía  emocionado  por  el  vibrar  del  juguete  que  podía  ir  de  cero  a  cien  en  cualquier  momento.  Su  lado  masoquista  quería  saber  que  tan  cruel  podía  ser  Taek  con  él.  -  —¿No  lo  has  pasado  bien?  —  -cuestiona,  apretando  sus  brazos  en  torno  a  los  hombros  del  otro,  pegándose  aun  más  a  su  espalda  y  besando  su  oreja.  La  diestra  baja  por  su  pecho,  acariciando  su  torso,  las  uñas  pintadas  de  negro  y  sutilmente  más  largas  arañan  un  poco  el  camino.  -  —Me  has  dejado  entre  chatarra  y  putas  baratas  que  se  creen  costosas,  me  he  sentido  solo.  
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meatballsu · 1 year ago
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Can totally understand that and i want to say sth since i read through doku‘s blog🤭becuz as far as I remember Core never intend to interfere any story and they only provide a choice for people to choose.
Doku clearly states that in any story if au creator want Core to interfere the original timeline, it will automatically produce and progress into a new one. That is to say, a sample, in one Error comic where Core offer to help the underswap!papy, there would also exist a timeline where no Core come to help and there would be someone else to contact with papy or he would rescue sans by his own or other choices.
The omega timeline is not a saving bubble that core would drag anyone who is “suffering” into. The entrance or being called the door would only open if the people truly need and want help.
Through any canon brief about them I didn't recon anything that Core offer to play as a savior role. Reading through every multi verse stories that contain Core, I think they is just a deus ex machina through the plot for creator who don't want the character to be deadly dead(no chance to revive).
Also didn't see any canon or fanon work where Core would harm anyone.
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goldenfox3 · 2 months ago
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Yeah I was also thinking about what deus ex machina thing I could have someone pull to yoink Andy from the finale and to another world to save him at the cost of leaving his world behind and I was like "damn what other series am I going to have to do a crossover with what do I even know well enough that'd fit the criteria" but. Game Falcon is literally right there. I've already written him reaching across the universes to save Andy before. It wouldn't be set in TF or ATFS verse bc I'd want to do a separate thing but post GX Falcon feeling a ripple in his soul...? or something and instinctively reaching out to this resonant feeling and suddenly an alternate universe Falcon comes tumbling out on him lmao. And he lets Andy stay with him bc he kind of is responsible for dumping the man in a foreign world with nothing and no one familiar when that man was fully embracing death. I think I could even pull a very slow burn Falcon/Falcon out of it as they learn to live together and about each others' quirks, hopes, dreams, regrets, the things they show to no one else, the things no one else has ever understood so well...but it wouldn't necessarily have to be shippy lmao I just think it would be very funny as a ship or queerplatonic or situationship or weird alternate universe bffs.
Andy probably doesn't go out a lot initially especially if he's recovering from getting blown up again and probably putters around Doug's house curled up with a book or drawing or cooking and cleaning and welcoming him home. Very domestic. Weirdly domestic for Doug and it takes him a while to get used to having home cooked food that someone else prepared waiting for him and the chores done and the evidence of someone else's presence seeping throughout his living space. I think one of the ultimate signs of Doug coming to trust him and accept him in his life would be letting him drive his Blue Falcon just to see the depth of emotion that's been missing from Andy ever since they met show itself if only for a few fleeting moments. Exhilaration, wild joy, all things that he never knew if the muted, melancholy adriftness hanging around Andy would ever let him experience again.
For Andy's part he's very caring and emotionally perceptive as we know so to have that kind of personality right up in Doug's personal space...I feel like he'd pick up on a lot of the insecurities and buried desires that Doug represses even from himself. He knows intimately well that Falcon is a performance, an ideal, even as a part of yourself. And caring for someone again would give him a sense of purpose after the uncertainty of being dragged back from death after giving his life to fulfill his life's purpose. I think at some point the question could finally be raised of what Andy actually wants to do with his life when he isn't tied to being Falcon anymore, when he isn't tied to anyone or anything and is just thinking about himself.
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