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Pick-up Lines (or Attempts) by SGE Prequel Characters

I wasn't planning on doing anything related to Valentine's Day, but came up with this. Feel free to disagree with me if anything seems off. Some of these are hyperbole-infested, haha.

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Hook:

Flirting: [He takes up the person's hand and says seductively,] What you think about [some egocentric yet relevant topic of conversation], lad/lass?

Flirted with: He flirts back—whether he has any sincere feelings for the person or not.

Midas:

Flirting: Is flirting beneath him? Likely. He doesn't like soppy Evers who mistake him for one himself.

Flirted with: Doesn't bother responding or dismisses the person. Or worse, he suspects high-handed manipulation at play and says something like "Find someone else."

Rufius:

Flirting: [He doesn't have the guts to flirt? May bring the object of his affections pastries.]

Flirted with: Completely oblivious. Mistakenly recognizes flirtation as an attempt to befriend or as just others simply being "friendly" to him for once.

Kyma:

Responds kindly in either scenario. Might let many, many suitors down.

Marialena:

Flirting: I foresaw a future for you and I together.

Flirted with: Laughs in the person's face. How pathetic, she could think. Or she blatantly lies and tells them they will die of smallpox or malaria because she is contagious and ought to be on her deathbed, if only to get rid of them. If not, she could string the person along for a while, to do her bidding.

Peter Pan:

Flirting: [N/A]

Flirted with: Yuck. Bluck. Bleh. I'm not getting disgusting girl cooties!

Rise Rhian:

Flirting: [He initiates a handshake, and holds onto it for too long.] Hello... [Unfortunately, his mind goes blank and he blushes. In some cases, he may find something clever to say, especially about the physical appearance of his crush.]

Flirted with: [Tongue-tied, attempts to act coy in front of the admirer, probably blushes profusely. Can't look anyone in the eye.]

Fall Rhian:

Flirting: [Wouldn't bother if a guy isn't his prophesied True Love... probably. Do old habits die hard like his brother had? Only one way to find out. Expose himself to handsome guys (students?) and get over the feelings.]

Flirted with: May respond by thinking some form of: Hostile human lifeform. What's the trick this time? He can no longer trust after everything that had gone on.

Rafal:

Flirting: [*Crickets* Then, a voice sounds from behind his "victim:"] Ahem... greetings. I am your stalker. Do you love me? Please. I command you to love me. I promise you, you won't find anyone better. I'll make it for certain.

Flirted with: [Stares at the person like they're stupid for even trying and says something scathing in return.]

[I think he has the potential to be off the rails awkward or deeply questionable, in terms of having a sound mind, if he's not acting seductively as part of a greater ploy and actually has real feelings for someone getting in his way. Hence, the slight deviation from canon.

His first response was also inspired by "Stalker's Tango" and "An Unhealthy Obsession."]

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Sge Characters as Other Book Series/TV Show characters

Rafal- The Darkling or Aleksander from Shadow and Bone or Maven Calore from Red Queen (TLEA)

Rhian- Anna from Frozen (during Rise) or Azula from Avatar the Last Airbender (especially after he killed Rafal)

Aladdin- Steve Harrington from Stranger Things or maybe even Ron Weasley from Harry Potter

James- Finnick Odair from The Hunger games or Jesper Fahey from Six of Crows

Rufius- Eric Van der Woodsen from Gossip Girl (he's so innocent omg) or Wylan Van Eck from Six of Crows

Kyma- Primrose Everdeen from The Hunger Games or Annabeth Chase from Percy Jackson and The Olympians

Marialena- Luna Lovegood from Harry Potter (if Marialena wasn't evil I guess)

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I love all of these! Also, what's going on in the blue sketches? Are those the Peter Boy pajamas or scenes with Fala at the lunch table being insulted or something else? It's slightly hard to read some of the panels, but I like how you used ALT text. How did you add it? And, what was the plot of the 4-page comic about? I'm just curious.

Rhian and the Pirate Captain! I love the concept of them too! And the last panel with Rafal in a nightcap, hah—what a great expression!

Ok so I just found my sketchbook after all this time, and t was still in my school bag since the last day of school and I thought I could share a bunch of sge doodles I made (this isn't all of them)

Like I said before this isn't everything, not to mention one thing I found in abundance in my sketchbook is a concerning amount of pirate captain x rhian angst doodles and even fanfics I wrote out of boredom

Not to mention I have a sketchbook page of both brothers that's kinda old but I posted it on my tiktok account

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au where the twins are big social media influencers and they originally made content together but around a year into it they kept arguing about what they wanted to make together so they made separate channels and it's kind of like "who do you like better??" and it's like such a big thing where it's like friendships are ending because of who supports which twin and then later on in their separate careers rhian does something stupid to get him cancelled and the internet goes absolutely wild and he makes one of those half-assed youtube apologies and all the original rafal supporters say stuff like "i always liked rafal better" and "i always got bad vibes from rhian tbh" after all the rhian fans either stop watching or move to rafal's channel

bonus: marialena is one of those people on twitter or whatever who makes a bingo prediction card for each year and she's suspiciously right every time she's right she always comments on whatever was on her bingo saying "this WAS on my [year] bingo card"

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some sketches from this week's streams, trying to figure out color schemes for some minor paradise state characters

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Ok if we're talking about plot holes in the later SGE books (including the prequels)

Marialena is part of the Sader family and is a seer

But wasn't it said in A World Without Princes that all the seers in the Sader family were men??

But there are clearly women and girls who were seers, as shown by Marialena and her mother Adela Sader...

If the Sader line of seers was all-male, how could there be female seers???

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What mbti do you think the prequel's characters are 🤭

I am not the best at this, since character interpretation varies from person to person. I will try my best, but I apologize if you find it lacking. I also am only sticking with the main prequel characters, and not people like the Pirate Captain, Vulcan, Botic and so forth. If you would like to see them, don't be afraid to ask!

Rhian: ENFJ (Rhian goes first because I said so.)

Rafal: INTJ

Rufius: INFP

Kyma: I am in between INFJ and ISFJ but I feel like she fits the former more? Hm.

James: ENTJ maybe?

Peter Pan: ENTP

Aladdin: ESTP is my best guess.

Midas: INTP?

Marialena: This was one of the hardest, but maybe, MAYBE ISTP. She's so two-faced I don't even know who she really is.

That's what I have. Again, sorry if this doesn't really meet your expectations. I apologize also for taking so long on this one.

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MYSTFALL ► Celestial Vision (Official Video)

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Decided to have a go as well because I love data presentation even though this isn't data presentation (and with prequel characters)

also most of the ones who aren't here just aren't here cause I didn't care about them enough and when I did the ranking there was this clump of them at the bottom

anyway this list is Mostly right. Top 5 is a bit of a surprise (Sophie isn't usually in my top 5, swapping her and dovey/chaddick/rhian I woud've made more sense). ALSO rafal got 3rd? somehow? should've been kei

the only reason why Rhian II got last and not Aric is because Aric stabbing him was the only good thing he ever did therefore I had to

Input all the sge characters i could think of in a ranker and picked my favs and honestly yeah i stand with this... icb how low millicent is though like i don't even have beef with her 😭

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"After a long winter, you came to me as spring"

My piece for Haikaveh Reverse Bang @hkvhrevbang!

(find the fic the lovely Marialena wrote for this on ao3 here!)

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what wouldve happened if the Saders (especially Marialena) didn't foretell the prophecy? What wouldve happened if Rafal didn't leave?

This has been in my ask box for months. I hope anon is still around if they still wanted the answer.

@fourleafclovxr Feel free to ignore this, but if you're interested, do you have any thoughts about this question—since it deals with seers and Saders?

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If the neither brother had knowledge of the prophecy then there's a slight chance it may not have happened in a self-fulfilling way with their attempts to prevent it from coming true only furthering its completion. They might've been able to maintain peace.

Yet, even if the prophecy were not told, well, their world is still governed by fate, and considering how much of an inescapable grip that predestination has over everyone's lives, how fates that can't be circumvented—I'm not sure if the innate genre they lived in could have changed from "tragedy."

Even if fates can be subverted by being fulfilled in unconventional ways (as any room for interpretation could be exploited by participants) I don't see how fratricide and there being just One left standing(?) could contain some kind of exceptional clause.

Regardless, this possibility would mean that some sort of "user-friendly" loopholes could exist in their world, like how Chaddick's blood on the handkerchief allowed Rhian II to pull Excalibur when he otherwise wouldn't have been able to.

That instance of cheating is the best example I have at the moment. The rightful son didn't pull the sword, but the event itself, of the sword being pulled, still was able to happen given situational factors. The rightful heir's blood still came into contact with the sword, the sword was pulled (by someone), and the "right" candidate became king by the end. What happened between seminal events may not have mattered in the grand scheme of things.

Thus, prophecies may well work in a top-down way, only going as small-scale as they need to, to ensure outcomes.

So, from this, we could take away that the endings may be predetermined, but that the path to such endings could be open to interference—only to the degree that the ending wouldn't change as the result of any meddling, even if unanticipated third parties involve themselves.

The parties not affected by the prophecy, outside its bounds, could plausibly do whatever they wanted, and have free will (ostensibly, everyone has free will though), but I could venture to say that the consequences of said, seemingly free actions could be manipulated by the hand of fate, to produce those certain outcomes.

Basically, in the Woods, no matter what you try, since you at least have the freedom to try, you won't change a thing with your actions. All those actions would still snowball to produce the exact outcome that's set to happen. (And, if this were true, trying to change your fate would be futile. E.g., think of how Sophie and Agatha were locked into their true natures. They couldn't switch sides.)

(Keep in mind that this post just represents my view of things. We don't necessarily have canon confirmation of anything I'm speculating about.)

Applied to the prequels, if Midas' or the Pan's presences/roles were never predetermined, then they just helped the inevitable end along. If neither of them had been there, perhaps the prophecy still could have reached the same ending by other equally-as-effective means. (Different potential plot(s), one outcome.)

We could also argue that Adela's wording was vague enough to exploit.

So, the same thing could apply to the twins: the prophecy of the One and Adela's betrayal, war, death could happen, and lead to the same outcomes, but the specifics could unfold differently. Or, the events could all happen in the same way but hold different meaning/implications for the future (no 200 year curse despite fratricide or death of another form for Rafal?). Or, none of the events could happen in the same way, but the final ending would be fixed, like I proposed before. I guess we don't really know how malleable or interpretable prophecies or visions are.

And seeing that it's Marialena, I wouldn't put it past her to use red-herrings or mislead, even without saying a word of prophecy. Lying, other methods, or other dialogue/persuasion could produce the same results.

It's hard to separate out the cause and effect to me. We should ask: did (early) knowledge of the prophecy affect how it played out? Or was it set in stone? Or was it inevitable that Rafal's particular combination of character traits (the extorting, the threats, etc.) and the situation (in Monrovia) would have led him to finding out about the prophecy and that that very moment was also a part of the prophecy in action, happening or beginning?

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Second, if Rafal hadn't left, I think the characterization that would hold true was the bit of internal monologue we saw in Fall, that he intentionally cedes some minor(?) arguments to keep the peace with Rhian.

Rhian might not even realize anything were wrong or that Rafal were (probably) hurt by his side being devalued.

I would suspect if Rhian were aware, not much would change. Rhian is prone to burying conflict and truth after all. But, I couldn't see him dwelling on the conflict Rafal lay to rest, unless he had good reason to, or lasting guilt/shame over it.

Rafal on the other hand holds grudges, and while we know he isn't the Evil brother now, he has Evil tendencies, of course, so he could easily let his resentment accumulate and fester inside until he found it in himself to do something: either leave, like he did, or perhaps, display passive aggression?

Outright anger against his brother would not be productive, but if his resentment became that severe, he could potentially lash out, and Rhian would see Rafal's "unprovoked" response as coming out of nowhere. Then, Rhian could accuse him of being irrationally antagonistic, like a villain without motive, or Evil that "always" (often, as of late) loses and that has to deprive Good of an ending to gain one for itself, as we would see the beginning hints of Evil's losing streak no matter what.

By that point, Rafal might either drop the issue, but secretly continue to hold the grudge for the rest of time, a reasonably moderate and functional if not flawless happy ending for the both of them. (Would it last? I'm doubtful.)

Or, Rafal could argue back, setting off the prophecy, even if it had a delayed start this time since I suspect any major enough argument could have set the brothers down the wrong path, no matter what the argument was about, Aladdin or someone/something else, if their bond had weakened over the decades, like it might've been implied to have done in canon.

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Rise of SGE Characters as Mathematical phenomenons:

Rafal- A Right Triangle Why? Because he's always "right" in the sense that he believes he is the rightful lead or immediately takes control.

Rhian- Pi- simply because he's irrational in Rise, and is unpredictable in TLEA.

Midas- Archimedean Spiral

Because of the way his story "spirals" into something much deeper than that of a reader.

Kyma- Symmetry -Because both sides of her soul always match and never change. She's the purest of them all.

Marialena- The Fibonacci Sequence

Because like the way you can predict the next number in the sequence, She can essentially "predict" the storyline.

Rhian Mistral and Japeth

Circles

Because their story line comes full "circle", with the past is present and present is past idea.

Agatha and Sophie

Parallel Lines- their story "parallels" that of Rhian and Rafal's.

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Connection - Marialena Ilia, 2022.

Pencil on paper.

Facebook page: Marialena/Art

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Could you please draw Marialena one day? 🥺

cool people like marialena🫡

so many of her scenes are so funny, and what makes her even better is that she’s also a really interesting character.

hope this satisfies!

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Thanks! First, I will say: I had no plans to write this (though I'm tempted to now), and I do not have much of a plot, so this AU will most likely not become an actual story at all, as of now. I was simply playing with the concept.

Just realized I should’ve tagged you: @maraneedscoffee

It's partly inspired by Greco-Roman mythology, I would say, given how... mercurial in temperament Rafal is here.

I don't have an exact explanation as to who made Rafal into a god, aside from the idea of worship leading to the attainment of godhood, the rule being: no believers, no god. And yet, I'm contemplating using Rhian or Marialena as potential murderers or desecrators of some kind?

I did come up with another vignette though. It explains why they're in the positions they're in:

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"I could’ve pledged myself to a first-rate god, like Nimue or Merlin, but instead, I chose you."

Might I remind you whose bidding you’re supposed to be doing now, and whose will you’re supposed to execute to the letter?

"I don’t see why it couldn’t go both ways,” Sophie objected.

I could smite you.

“You wouldn’t. I’m your favorite, prettiest, and sole worshipper, of which you have next to none,” she simpered.

You’re not my equal.

"No, you’re unequivocally right—I’m your better. Without me, you’d cease to exist since you have no other followers to your name."

Just complete your rites.

"And would you like to know why you have no followers except for me?"

Enlighten me.

"You’re obscenely fastidious about how you are to be worshipped."

Well, I’m a god. What of that is so absurdly difficult to comprehend?

“Yes, though you’ve denied mortals sanctuary because the coins they left weren't 'the right currency.'"

That’s reasonable.

"You’ve refused burnt offerings because there were no cucumbers to be found."

What else am I meant to put in my sandwiches?

"Anything else!"

I shouldn't have to settle for anything less than ideal.

"It wasn't exactly ideal of you to blow that naval fleet out to sea and trap them in a whirlpool."

It was amusing.

"And the plague?"

I figured fewer worthless humans would mean fewer to irritate me. I could've separated the wheat from the chaff of that kingdom if it hadn't developed new medicinal practices just to spite me.

"I'm sure finding a cure wasn't intentional," Sophie lampooned. "And you burnt an innocent man for playing the flute by your temple."

I had a migraine that day.

"So did I, but I could’ve driven him away without resorting to abject barbarism like you did. I’ve told you time and time again: you’re uncivilized."

I've existed long before any great civilizations rose. What did you expect? A domesticated deity? Restrained divinity? Mercy toward the undeserving?

"How do you explain ordering the slaughter of that hunter the other day?"

He killed one of my sacred swans.

Sophie rolled her eyes. "It was one bird."

Haven’t you ever heard the axiom: an eye for an eye?

"With you, when haven't I heard it?"

If you were a god, you would be the same way.

Sophie pursed her lips thoughtfully. "True…" she mused.

And that’s why I deign to keep you alive, despite my better judgment. No one else understands the nature of my demands. No one except you.

"Well, I hadn’t thought of it like that."

Right. So?

"All right. I'll deliver the false prophecy, depose the emperor for you, and consecrate his lands in your name."

I am sharing the funniest dnd character idea I’ve ever had bc I know I’ll never get to play them and I refuse to keep a joke to myself

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marialena would wear a skirt with an eyeball pattern on it. idk why i just thought of that