#yeah as aziraphale should

[joridrw]

I just came to the groundbreaking realisation that "Guided by Angels" by Amyl and the Sniffers could be Crowley's theme song (especially post s2, I feel like), so go listen to it everyone

[the-maw-consumes]

they like holding hands

[fellthemarvelous]

Holy forking shirtballs

I'm choosing violence today. I started this on Twitter, but I'm going to finish my thoughts here like I always do.

But what really blows my mind the most is the way that people look at Aziraphale's "choice" at the end, as if he had one to fucking begin with.

I'm sorry, but Aziraphale knows how messed up Heaven is. He told The Metatron, more than once, that he did not want to go back to Heaven! We can debate what each of us means by "choice" all night because my "choice" and your "choice" might be two different concepts. He could have been strong armed by The Metatron or he could have looked at where things were headed and realized he had no choice but to intervene himself.

You need to ask yourself what Aziraphale has a moral imperative to do.

What do we owe to each other?

Seriously, if you have not watched The Good Place, I recommend you go and watch it, because it absolutely shaped how I've viewed Good Omens 2 since its release.

My levels of frustration with the bad faith mischaracterizations of Aziraphale are off the charts. If you are blaming him for everything, implying that he should have to grovel and that Crowley has a right to hurt him back, you have missed the point of Good Omens entirely.

I defend Aziraphale, but I don't think one of them is more right or wrong than the other. They're equals. They're a group of the two of them, acting and reacting to each other throughout history. They're Alpha Centauri.

I cannot even begin to explain how fucking devastated I felt when Crowley said these words, knowing he was fighting a losing battle. What he said took a lot of courage because he's finally admitting something they've both been too scared to publicly define for 6,000 years. Crowley has had to spend so long with a rough outer shell because he fell and had to hide all of his softness.

The look on his face was one of pure joy when he created that nebula, but I think the fact that he got to share that moment with Aziraphale is what has always stuck with him.

So yeah, seeing Crowley with a broken heart at the end of "Every Day" was sad for me as well.

My brain still lives here!!

But Neil has said that Good Omens 3 is not quiet, gentle, or romantic. I imagine it's going to be more like the the first season in which they are not central to the plot. GO2 will help us make sense of how they ended up where they are when we see the bigger picture with all the other major players involved with GO3.

Aziraphale was still a soldier and accidentally got himself discorporated in his own magic circle in season one. He had a platoon waiting on him to start Armageddon, and he deserted them to go save the world with Crowley instead. Aziraphale is a deserter. I need everyone to remember that. He yeeted himself out of Heaven and sought out Crowley before even locating a body just to warn him about what was happening so they could try to save the world together.

I can't help but think of 1941 and that magician who had been arrested for being a deserter.

Aziraphale disobeyed orders. That took courage but it branded him as a traitor against Heaven. They tried to destroy him for it the same way Hell tried to destroy Crowley for his part in stopping the war.

Aziraphale and Job are the only characters we have seen interacting with God directly. Aziraphale has spoken to God before and he is determined to do so again.

Aziraphale knows Heaven is flawed, but he also knows it's supposed to be good. He wants it to be good. He does not like the way the system works and he wants to make a difference. (And I'm pretty sure he's also determined to talk to God without being intercepted by The Metatron.)

Since when is that a bad thing? I don't get it. And I've had this discussion before.

If you need to change the system by burning the old one to the ground, it's still change, and we don't know what Aziraphale has planned.

It seems to me that people just want to see Aziraphale fail because it would punish him for returning to Heaven instead of running off with Crowley.

Some of y'all take everything Aziraphale says or does and twist those things into malicious anti-Crowley actions because you think the only reason Aziraphale exists is to make Crowley happy, and if he isn't thinking only about Crowley then he's doing something wrong.

Aziraphale does not exist as a plot device to further Crowley's character. They come as a pair. They've been learning from each other for 6,000 years. Crowley challenges Aziraphale just as much as Aziraphale challenges him.

You can be mad at Aziraphale all you want, but villainizing him is gross. Defending Crowley does not mean you have to tear down and mischaracterize Aziraphale anymore than defending Aziraphale means you have to tear down Crowley (but I don't see that happen on nearly the same level it happens to Aziraphale). Stop painting Aziraphale as an abusive partner, for fuck sake.

Aziraphale knows there are flaws in the system. He wants to make a difference, and since he has seen that Gabriel can change, then maybe the whole system can. He has to at least try, and if he can succeed then maybe he and Crowley can stop hiding and finally be together without having to look over their shoulders all the time.

Why is that a bad thing? He's just as protective of Crowley as Crowley is of him!

But don't forget that Aziraphale's wing was covering Adam and Eve too. As much as a wants to protect Crowley, he has a moral imperative to keep humanity safe as well.

He sent Adam and Eve into the unknown with a flaming sword so they could protect themselves.

As much as he wants to be with Crowley, there are 8 billion people on Earth heading toward the Second Coming and Judgment Day. They'll work together to fight alongside humanity in the end. Aziraphale should not have to humiliate himself just to earn Crowley's forgiveness. That's a rancid notion.

The Resurrectionist was a whole ass moral dilemma for Aziraphale, which is why I brought up The Good Place earlier, but that's a post for a different time.

Aziraphale has his own motivations and they're just as important as Crowley's, and they don't have to be chalked up to Aziraphale being the bad guy. Weird, I know, but shades of grey.

"To the world."

[aduckwithears]

Your... boss said that to Job, do you remember?

I most certainly do.

Good Omens S2/Ep2

[goost55]

I one hundred percent believe that Crowley is the one that gave aziraphale all those fire extinguishers, I think azi thought it was a great idea but I’m certain it was Crowley’s idea.

I mean the poor guy walked into a burning bookshop to save his best friend (boyfriend) and thought he had died and it hurt him so he went and got drunk to deal with it.

Crowley realizes just how flammable books are (because while they knew that they never thought it would actually burn down) and subtly demands that azi gets fire extinguishers.

[fearandhatred]

the first chapter of the script book has officially been defaced

also was the just a minute part in the actual show i don't remember. i love just a minute my dad used to download all the episodes to play in the car

[speckofhope]

Our definitions of insurance

extras

[jaypentaghast]

Got some gomens stickers at the comic con this year!!

edit: forgot these

[silychurl]

Dumping a few of my Gomens sketches then back to lurking!

Currently going through a trying to design some new looks for the Ineffable Partners for fun sakes in between some bigger projects. So far the list is:

Fantasy Armour Shenanigans Aziraphale (Supreme Arc-Angel?)

Viking Era Aziraphale (Crowley’s design in the concept comic is from Imus.sumi on Discord! Have yet to ask their Tumblr handle but it’s something I’ll get to asking in the near future. Also probably the one that’s going to change the most since I do want to lean in a more historically accurate look for this one due to story reasons)

Fem Crowley and Aziraphale Disco Inspired looks (emphasis on inspired on this one since it looks like I’m just going on generally a night dance club look for it, unlike the others these are made for a future full illustration so I’m giving myself much more leeway on it)

Sorry for the lengthy post, back to lurking.

[mommyashtoreth]

I am Not someone who thinks that like, character traits change significantly with different gender presentations for Any character, but I think fundamentally Aziraphale and Crowley are both switches, but Crowley is more dommy when she's in girlmode and more subby when he's in guymode, and vice versa for Az, more dommy when he's in guymode and more subby when she's in girlmode. I won't even pretend this is a legitimate intellectual character analysis I literally just think this is the hottest way to do it. Really just says a lot about me and my tastes I think

[p4nishers]

atlas paralleling aziraphale and icarus paralleling crowley. aziraphale who had to carry heaven's weight on his shoulder, never daring to move in fear of it collapsing on top of him, only to be tricked into taking the weight again after he finally gave it away. crowley Fell from grace because of his curiosity, because of his greed, he flew too close to the sun after being trapped his entire life and "ended" his life because of that. aziraphale made crowley feel lighter than he had in years when he talked to him in eden and crowley couldn't see the consequences this simple action could have because he was just happy to talk to someone without fear. it made him feel like he was flying again. he just wanted to free aziraphale of his burden, of carrying the weight of guilt and sense of duty that came with heaven. the contrast between crowley Falling brutally (sauntering vaguely downwards) and feeling like he's floating bc of aziraphale. he feels free with aziraphale around, he values freedom SO MUCH and with aziraphale, he has that. aziraphale on the other hand can never really let go of what he's carrying, he can never be fully crowley's while still shouldering heaven's burden. aziraphale is crowley's whole universe, like the one they created together. aziraphale carried the sky and aziraphale is crowley's sky. crowley would do anything for aziraphale not to be burdened, even have him drop the "sky". he would have them leave it all behind if it meant aziraphale was finally free of heaven. he doesn't think about fixing heaven because it genuinely doesn't matter to him, he left it behind long ago, he literally fell away, while aziraphale is still so connected with it all, he's still stuck beneath the weight he is holding up on his own. crowley just wants to be aziraphale's, no matter the consequences and more than anything, aziraphale just wants him safe. it's why he's doing it all, he just wants crowley to be finally safe somewhere, even if it means taking up the heaviest burden of all again. anyway.

[saragrosie]

Ed and the ineffable 60s gals

See the best and only accurate crowley playlist btw (can confirm i was their plants):

[phantomram-b00]

So I know I’m super late. Valentine’s Day is done. Finish. At least in my time zone. But there was this one headcanon/scenario I thought of.

So I think I heard about how Crowley’s a painter or dabbles in painting. And also there is this popular (and in a sense implied) headcanon of Crowley’s eyes not seeing stars for his snake eyes. And I love them both sm. (Well not the last one, that one is sad but I guess what I mean is I do headcanon it too)

But for some reason, I’ve had an headcanon where Aziraphale bought like a heart shaped box of chocolate for Crowley. They done this sometimes for Valentine’s Day. (Quote the scrapped scene) but then he had an idea: to paint the front of the box but to what? Then an idea pop into his head. He decided to paint over the front box. Putting in minute details. Making sure the colors worked nicely. And once it dried, he look at what he painted, it stars themed. But specifically, it the stars and galaxies he remembers seeing with Crowley. And he knows he can’t see it so for Valentine’s Day he thought “why not I try to recapture that scenery for him so he can see it”.

Then once Crowley comes with his gifts and they exchange them, Crowley see the painted front of the box. As Azirpahale explain his process and why he did it, Crowley rushes over to hug him and the star theme box of chocolate. Because he gets to hug and see his two stars.

[xadeone]

I can't shake the thought... What has Aziraphale DONE for Crowley?

I am not saying he doesn't love him. Of course he does. He couldn't be more smited smote smitten if he tried. But, all the nice gestures (cleaning the stain, miracling Hamlet to be popular, saving books) are all Crowley. All the saving and protecting? Also Crowley.

Sure, Aziraphale goes into Hell for him, but just as Crowley goes to Heaven. And yet Crowley went to Heaven to help him TWICE. The holy water? Crowley was the one that asked for it, and it still took Azoraphale years.

Of course he cares about Crowley (it's why he doesn't want to give him the water in the first place). He cares and loves him so much, and it could be said that they hace different love languages, but it still feels like he should be doing more, that he should be kinder and more attentive with his demon.

Am I missing anything?

I just really hope that s3 gives us something about that. Some sort of confirmation that Aziraphale went back to Heaven now in an attempt to not only fix Heaven but to make everything safer and better and worth it for Crowley. Not only for himself, or for Heaven, but for CROWLEY.

[fearandhatred]

why is rome crowley devastating me on this fine day (2am)

[sagelvr111]

Guys… I go to a Catholic school. Yk never been a point to bring up on here BUT I seriously fucked up. I watched Good Omens. Now every time in religion class there’s something brought up that’s also mentioned in Good Omens I’m like “Oh! I know about that!” Which was NEVER the case before. A week ago if you asked me abt Job I would’ve known NOTHING. Now? IM RAISING MY FUCKING HAND IN CLASS. BECAUSE I WATCHED A SHOW ABOUT GAY ANGELS AND DEMONS.

It’s so bad. Guys why did I do this to myself. If God is real he’s not even going to bother seeing me, he’s just going to throw me straight into hell. An eternity in purgatory if I’m lucky.

LONG STORY SHORT: IF YOU GO TO CATHOLIC SCHOOL DONT WATCH GOOD OMENS BC YOU WILL JUST END UP THINKING ABOUT IT ALL THE TIME BECAUSE YOU ARE CONSTANTLY SURROUNDED IN RELIGION.