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There are, however, those for whom there is no other answer [other than to have surgery]. In my experience these people, both men and women, are asexual before they make the changeover and have difficulty in relating to others because of their own confusion which comes from deep within them. Once they have made the changeover, and they are what they have always felt themselves to be, their emotions are released and they become capable of a deep loving.
"Know Thyself" speech by Mrs Doreen Cordell at the 16th March, 1974 TV/TS UK conference, held in Leeds
Fascinated by the use of the word asexual here, definitely covering (if not actually mainly about) what we today would call "aromanticism" and the ways the conference/1970s attitudes towards TS/TV distinction takes on a pathologisation of various behaviours in an attempt to normalise the parts that individual activists/speakers related more to within themselves -- I am the normal trans, and you can tell because of xyz medically/psychologically measurable behaviours
I think this is a limitation that's deeply baked into 20th century trans histories and politics, which in no small amount came from the pathologisation of queerness (see how trans and ace are linked along the lines of mental illness) as a whole in the 1950s-onwards, specifically from the cis, white, male majority psycho-babble
It's important to unpack these limitations, especially as how they pertain to throwing others under the bus, in particular if we as a community want to better support anti-colonialist and anti-racist gender movements and our intersex siblings
The 1974 conference is an important moment in trans history, that undoubtedly contains within it a great deal of joy and community, as well as intersex voices (Miss Della Alexander was a pretty big deal in the UK community in 1974, although I wonder if some of her ideas aren't too radical even for today -- I think they're still very interesting and might share some of her words on here as well, they certainly make me think, even if I don't know where those lines of thoughts are going) but simultaneously reiterates or often struggles to have the effective words to challenge white, western-centric, passing-focused, pathologised, and intersexist ideologies
what parts of all of this muddle have we managed to challenge today, and what voices are we still not centering enough?
I do note, I know a few trans people who identified as ace pre-transitioning, as well as trans people who identified as allo in one way or another, and their sexuality changing with transition -- crucially, they didn't think of their pre-transition sexualities as a negative, but merely a part of their ongoing journey, and even if someone were to see it as a negative symptom (and I'm sure many do) it's not a generalisation of everyone's experience in the way one often risks seeing in some of these older takes (or... some modern takes)
(I deliberately didn't get more into the asexual/aromantic conflagration and pathologisation, because that's its whooole own post that I'm still thinking about as I continue to read the conference transcript. suffice to say, it's interesting to learn more and unpack a lot of what was said 50 years ago)
#queer stuff#trans stuff#queer history#trans history#aphobia#but also:#asexual history#aromantic history#Transvestism and Transsexuality in Modern Society#The First National TV.TS Conference#mrs doreen cordell#i disagree with almost everything this person said which is an interesting thing to find and unpack#our history is not clean and easy to engage with#asexuality-as-umbrella-term being a Known factor in 1974 enough so that it's namedropped here#with an expectation of being understood#but not as a positive or neutral experience
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"It's so embarrassing to admit I only create art for validation" did paleolithic humans not paint for other humans to see. Does a child making their first drawing to show their parents makes it any less valuable. Do gardens arranged for the visitors' eyes make the roses any less beautiful. Do love poems written for one person alone to hear make your heart ache less. You're fine
#jay rambles.txt#two very hard pills to swallow: 1. art has always been created for money and it's a very normal practice in human history#and actually artists being expected to produce art for free or as cheap as they do now is a relatively new thing#2. humans have always created art for validation because being recognised and understood by your fellow humans is a universal human need#if you start to idealise artistry as something inherently selfless that needs to come with no gain or benefits or instead brings only pain#you are going down a VERY dangerous path of not being able to express yourself without shame - if at all#and potentially dragging other people you told close down into that mentality too if you're vocal about it#I've been there#I am there#It's a shitty feeling but the only way out of it is true embrace your need to be loved and desire for human connection or it won't end well#idk that's my opinion tho
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While the notion that Sua had omitted the full truth about death to Mizi, and that's the reason Mizi resents her, is still true, the new comic might present a new reason for why Mizi resents/hates Sua as much as she loves her, and it deepens the complexity of the former reason in Mizi's perspective (plus I'm just here to ramble about some of Mizi's struggles more)

Mizi resents people for objectifying her, because she is a beautiful, friendly girl, she's crowded and adored by many but not understood, that's how she encounters so many people who believe they're entitled to her because "that's the rule" or because, well, why should she say no? Just like that dogshit npc who essentially accused her of leading him and others on because she was intentionally acting foolish and exploitative without any worries, (very similar to the way women are treated like Satans spawn-like temptresses in real life if they dare disappoint and not please)


Mizi resents people who don't think about getting to know her beyond what she represents or what she can offer them. things that simply contribute to how much of a pampered object she appears to her peers, that's why she was so disappointed by Till's answer. There might be men in a woman's life who won't know anything about her, won't care about her as a person, yet will still be adamant about their feelings even against her wishes; it just reaffirmed her self-hatred. She wanted a friend out of somebody she genuinely admired and cared about and felt like she couldn't because his idealization really set him back and put a strain on their dynamic, "Is it that hard to not like me?" (side note it seems like an odd question from her because it prompts an obvious answer, probably sounds a little dense too but I think it's genuinely what Mizi resents, that like other people around her, it is so hard for him to get over it and see her beyond the idealized perception, and she thinks its her fault for it)
Mizi resents people for assuming everything about her, or thinking she's genuinely so perfect and has it easy, while she knows how much she struggles, she genuinely doesn't want people to hate her and she doesn't want to hate people in turn so she feels as though she must internalize it and not burden others. (That's in part where the people pleasing comes from, if not out of necessity, she's genuinely just kind, but doesn't know how she can possibly make everyone happy, so it's easier to pretend)


(Again, it's so fascinating how Mizi presents a lot of parallels to women's struggles in real life because this comic, in some parts, is a commentary on that stigma and normalization )
That's why the scene with Mizi and Sua is so significant to me, because while Mizi is bitter toward people who perceive and treat her a certain way, she's especially upset when Sua does it too, the person she loves most and confides in most, is accidentally dismissive and insensitive to Mizi's experiences because Sua too believes Mizi has it easy, she doesn't fully understand- "at least you don't get dragged around like me, must be nice right?" She ends up sounding like the other people that Mizi is upset with



I described this a little in some other posts, but all in all, the way Sua believes Mizi's people-pleasing bubbly facade at times, and Mizi too wanted companionship and an escape in Sua, is the reason they're co-dependent on each other, it's the reason why Sua is so protective of keeping Mizi as naive as she thought she was, because Mizi's happiness was her escape, that too is the reason she felt like she should keep pretending and lying until they had their time on stage. After Sua dies, Mizi realizes that Sua must've known about the full truth of death, yet didn't tell her, Sua didn't want to taint Mizi's "perfect and oblivious personality," and so lied to her; it's similar to other instances where people assume things of Mizi, and what they think is out of her control no matter what she says, so I think this just adds more complexity to Mizi's reaction to Sua's death, Mizi's upset that she thinks Sua assumed she wouldn't have been able to handle it, that she didn't need to know, and so left her clueless, because of that Mizi wishes she could've been able to do something and she hates herself for taking on that facade in the first place and "causing Sua's death" like the manipulative and exploitative person she thinks she is

#alien stage#alnst#alien stage mizi#alnst mizi#mizi seems to really hate being perceived and not understood because when the former is not without the latter people expect things from yo#which is understandable i like that
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[microwave noises]
#anakin skywalker#padme amidala#anidala#star wars#finally getting all of the discourse for or against the ship on my twt fyp has been mind numbing like you’re all so stupid#and the thing is i genuinely can’t tell if the pro side is joking or not when they say padme happily walked into a relationship with anakin#because she didn’t care about the red flags like the way they say it they sound serious 😭#but it’s so nonsensical to me like she was already severely disadvantaged in the movies#why further contribute to a diminishment of agency by saying the massacre on tatooine was irrrlevant in the face of her feelings for anakin#when in all likelihood it precisely contributed to why she wanted to stay with him! because she cared and she understood!#i don’t think it diminishes the violence of anakin’s actions for padme to stay with him#she was maybe the one person he could afford to be more haphazardly emotional and clumsy with#in a way that the specter of expectations he felt was imposed by his upbringing as a jedi did not#anyway i’m a newer fan so like if people really are just joking about her love for anakin being driven by passion feel free to correct me#maybe i’m just hypersensitive in the way that i am about all female characters and how even their own fans can talk about them#because i do think you can be a fan of a female character and fall prey to acceptance of misogynist writing / ideas so
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I’ve seen critique of the way show!murderbot said it felt good after killing leebeebee (thank goodness, I really disliked her - though at the same time I actually think that it’s interesting for the preservation team to have someone very blatantly objectify murderbot right in front of them and show them how other humans likely treated it)
but,, I didn’t really read it as it feeling good about killing someone so much as feeling good that it has made the team realize that it isn’t some little robot that wants to be human, and it doesn’t want to be assimilated into their group because it isn’t human. It’s a construct. They cannot and should not assume that it wants to be like them - it shouldn’t have to change or be human to be accepted
So I thought it was more of a “it feels good that this is making them rethink their little uwu poor little meow meow narrative when that’s kind of condescending and I am way more familiar with how fucked up my situation is than they are?”
Idk, any thoughts?
#murderbot show#murderbot TV#Murderbot#how are people tagging for the show#Murderbot episode 6#Murderbot spoilers#hated hated hated every moment there was a comment about Murderbots genitals or it doing sex adjacent things#but idk. maybe also preservation needs to see exactly how corporation rim treats constructs#idk how I feel about murderbot killing her though#I think the show is pretty different in term of vibes#I swing wildly between going hmmm at the show and enjoying the show#which is probably just a consequence of reading the books lmao#if I didn’t have any comparison material after all#but like ratthi’s comments about vibing with Murderbot and his impression as well#I think it’s funny bc Murderbot really doesn’t linger over interactions with its clients and so comments like that could have been there#but it just doesn’t really care about them as individuals at that point#which does mean the show has to sort of ‘fill in’ the gaps that murderbot didnt care about#I’m trying to keep an open mind n all that#I hope ratthi is one of the first ones to realize that expecting Murderbot to want to assimilate is condescending#I mean I understood why book Murderbot ran#but I think I understand even more why show murderbot would ditch#also Murderbot: you would have let the enemy in to attack you when you’re vulnerable#being immediately proven right by the instant acceptance of leebeebee#I think Murderbot SHOULD get to kill people who non-consensually kiss it actually
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My sweet summer child has no idea we’re leaving in less than two hours to gO RUNNIN!!!!!
#dogblr#petblr#dog#sighthound#borzoi#Krampus#blessed to have a friend close to coursing#hotel rates are obscene#cross ur fingers and toes for his QC run tomorrow!#I must keep reminding myself he is but a babe and has run less than half a dozen times#and is doing wonderful#I am simply also cognizant of the pressures of time#males are only competitive coursing for a relatively short window#depending on their overall structure ofc#Louie was top coursing borzoi a couple years at full maturity#but he is built for it#I don’t expect Kram to be competitive in another year or two#coursing is a lot of strategy and once again#I am blessed to have people in my corner who know wtf is up and can guide me through it#I had actually kinda written off him getting an fc#because his now ex co-owner wanted to prioritize his conf CH#and not run him until he had that#with how slow he is to mature that may not have been till 5-6#at which time the likelihood of him being competitive …. lol#but that person is no longer on him#and while I understood her fear of a running accident ruining his show career#I don’t really have the fear myself#and if it does happen so be it
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GUESS WHO HAD THEIR FIRST KISS TODAY
#okay so guess what#she came over today to celebrate my bday because she isn’t free at all tmrw....in the backseat of her car after she had given me my present#(a letter + magnetic bookmarks !!!! + a brownie) she pulled me in for a hug & when we sort of relaxed w/ my head on her shoulder#and her arms around me she told me to look up & close my eyes—to which i laughed & complied—and she. and she#fucking kissed me on the lips !!!! so far we’ve only kissed each other on the cheeks + forehead w/ me being the bolder one#& sometimes going for the neck—but like. my god. i would’ve never expected it from her !!! and to think that this was my first kiss !!!!#it was soft & surreal & so so beautiful and tender i cannot put it into words—and it felt so right !!#later in the day i decided to tease her so i texted her that i had hardly felt the kiss & that it was so fleeting i had understood nothing#to which she didn’t reply but in the car when coming home she abruptly stopped & told me to “come here” and guess what.#she kissed me again !!!! my goodness i still cannot believe it !!!!! one was surreal enough but two !!!#i believe i am legitimately the luckiest person on earth.......never thought i’d love the day before my bday more than my bday itself#but apparently exceptions must be made#মৃণাল
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Ok but like, can we talk about how Stan learned about physics and advanced engineering and/or other stuff to create the portal?
This means that he actually understands what Stanford is saying when he speaking his nerd gibberish.
Although, he probably won't admit it. Maybe he'll imply it though.
#just imagine ford talking to dipper about how he built the portal#but stan corrects him because ford either forgot a key component or small step#it's been years since ford made it maybe he would make a small error#either way#cue ford being impressed by his knowledge#“stan you understood that?”#stan: “...it ain't that hard as you make it out to be”#ford: “finally I can talk physics and engineering with you!”#stan: “yeah no don't get your hopes up”#ford: “come on Stanley this is the first time I'd get to truly share something with you!”#stan: “ugh fine we'll do it in secret just don't expect me to get as happy as you”#random fandom stuff#gravity falls#stanford pines#stanley pines#pines twins#pines brothers#fandom thoughts
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You know you’re in too deep when you think a redemption arc can work for a character everyone believes shouldn’t be
#evan bleats#if you understood the complexities and depths regarding his character you’d see it too#like yeah yeah villain redemption arcs are overdone or whatever but listen. grips your shoulders so hard I draw blood#it would work so perfectly for his character#like yeah everyone says hes no longer intimidating and the later episodes ruined him and made him less of a threat but honestly I think it’s#an incredibly interesting direction for him to go in#like at that point his plans have failed a multitude of times yet he keeps trying#he is literally desperate for this to work and he’s clinging to everything he can to make it so#it’s what you’d expect from a creator who’s tried everything they can to make it big uet still can’t be successful esp after being told#he has no creative vision#PLUS!!!! THE THREADS ARE THERE TO CONMECT!!! YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THERES SO MUCH YOU COULD DO AND DEVELOP#AND THE RELATIONSHIPS BETWEEN CHARACTERS!!!! the SIMILARITIES THAT ARE ALREADY THERE!!!!#like oh my GOD it drives me so insane I need to write an essay about this#oh yeah this. is about Mr puzzles from smg4 by the way#you just don’t get him like I do. you don’t Understand
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there is something so. intensely frustrating about feeling incapable of showing up for people the way that they want you to
#i wish people understood that it's so hard to be present in their lives and that closeness for me isnt about frequency of contact#but how open we feel during that contact#my brain is such a difficult place to live in it is so loud and so busy all the time#24 hours a day is a constant monologue and argument with myself for everything and it means that i just dont have the capacity to talk to#others most of the time#and like. i know this is so unreasonable. obviously we have to be present in the lives of people that care for us#but it just feels like every day i have to like. get on a stage and perform to every person in my life that cares about me so i can meet the#criteria of being a Good Friend or Good Girlfriend or Good Fan Artist or Good Mutual or Good Server Member#i feel like it is such a blessing to be seen by others as someone to expect things from#but as more people have started to love me it feels like i have to 'go out and perform' more and more and i am very exhausted#i wish i was someone that was easy to love and care for in the way that i am. and i dont mean that self deprecatingly it's just#i know im very hard to care about and love. because i disappear all the time and come back in a big flurry as soon as i get the energy back#and im just feeling it a Lot More lately because im starting to think this isnt going to be a short term thing i have to do before i start#feeling comfortable with a person#this is going to be my whole life#if i get married im going to have to 'go out and perform' and be a good wife and be affectionate and happy and not closed into my own brain#for days#if im going to make friends with colleagues I'll have to go out when they invite me and have to reply ro their texts and i cant just go#silent for weeks while i try to negotiate with my thoughts and then reappear once i make the slightest breakthrough#im very tired and sad. i want companionship but i feel like the kind of person i am is not fair for people who would be my companion#vent post#♡alizeh talks♡
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very fascinating to see that jhag’s essentially played himself out of uncontested first overall territory this past year because love and light for him i did not realize his stat line looked like…..that. or that he was almost little by hockey standards. i’m rooting for him though! genuinely!
I'm also rooting for him!!! he'll have a bounce back year. I believe!!!! <3
#no but I'll tell you what I told a friend like 2 days ago: I NEED someone who covered BC hockey to stand the fuck up and speak#MYE crackpot theory is his ranking is being tanked by everyone's fixation on him being an adequate replacement for Will Smith <- impossible#have you seen that stupid freshman line's stats their numbers looked like someone made a mistake entering the data....#the perception that he 'only did this much despite having 2 of the best players outside the nhl on his wing' feels... a lil thin...!#only managed to catch like 6 of their games in full this past season (was mainly watching DU) and caught glimpses of maybe half the others#I need someone who watched more than me to confirm this but. he didn't even center Leonard and Perreault for a bunch of the games no???#i have more time for the substantive observations from simon st-laurent re; his ability to make/take contact#or his way too fancy problem solving/passing. <- this ones a matter of perspective though. just blanket saying#'he didnt do as well as expected' is soo annoying to me </3 its technically true but is it precise. is it informative. does it say anything#like idk!! he couldve won a memorial cup with london this season. he couldve been blasting people in juniors and instead he chose college#fewer games but harder competition and more time to bulk up is how i understood the college vs juniors dynamic#which is all to say i love losing dogs and im really rooting for him to have a bounce back year#asks#anon
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One major point of difference between Aelin and Manon is how how they deal with success.
Aelin loves it and loves the sense of accomplishment that she gets every time she does something that gets her a lot of praise. She’s cocky and loves for that kind of joy. She picks these things because she knows the end result and she just loves being the center of attention because she’s Aelin.
Manon is also very successful but she doesn’t deal with it the same way. She doesn’t feel any sense of accomplishment, it’s just one thing that’s causing her a lot of anxiety off of her shoulders and she’s relieved that it’s over more than anything else. She certainly doesn’t await anyone’s praise. She’s also lowkey competitive so anything less than perfect results is a fluke in her eyes. (For example in school or in any competition she’s either at the number one spot or she’s has brought shame and disgrace to both herself and her name). So to Manon, there is no joy in these things; there is only stress and pressure and nothing else matters.
#booklr#manon blackbeak#throne of glass#tog#dorian havilliard#manon x dorian#manorian#aelin ashryver galathynius#I was just thinking about how they’re similar and different#both are awesome but one loves the theatrics and glory while the other is just tired and doesn’t derive any joy from it#and like Manon knows that failure has a price so she is really focused on not failing#growing up it really sucked but she LIVED for that nod of approval from her grandmother it was all she could think of#she didn’t only want to excel but she wanted to outdo everyone else#because that got her SEEN and not in a bad way#because when she was in boarding school they had those days where parents would come for a day or two#but no one ever showed up for Manon and she internalized that it’s because of her#she’s just so used to not having anyone she just doesn’t think about it anymore#so later on in adulthood she’s not used to Dorian being a whole cheering squad like that#it’s just that with Manon there are many expectations and it’s all very stifling she doesn’t enjoy it one bit#which is why Dorian is focused on lettering her try and enjoy things that are very chill and relaxing because ‘u can do something and not#expect any results from it’ but Manon is hardwired like that and by that point she was still thinking that which one of her actions would#be the last straw that will make him run for the hills#her abandonment issues were all out and she was either waiting for the inevitable to happen or unconsciously pushing those limits to see#when he’s going to finally snap#it was A LOT for her to take on and she only understood that she was self-sabotaging when she actually started therapy#and that alone was another hurdle because if she does then she’s a) badmouthing her grandmother and calling her bad or b) there IS#something fundamentally wrong with her and her grandmother is right all along#first few months with Dorian were a RIDE and then when Glennis was in the picture she was back to that limbo again#she really struggled a lot with having people who genuinely love her that was something she didn’t know how to deal with and she just#she revolted and fought them every step of the way because all her trauma was out but they STAYED
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finding out that in the original script for mysterious lotus casebook ep 19, after FDB passionately argues that LLH wasn't arrogant, but had good intentions and simply wanted to establish a more just and moral sect in the jianghu and LLH says:
then in the original script deleted line, LLH calls FDB his 知交 zhi jiao*, not just "best friend", in this dialogue here:
*知交 zhi jiao is a term that has a similar meaning to zhi ji. something like a companion who Knows you on a profound level. for a detailed explanation of what zhi jiao means, see this twitter thread by forhenjun which talks about how zhi jiao is specifically mutual and reciprocal.)
so LLH called FDB his zhi jiao first, even way before FDB calls LLH his zhi ji... because FDB alone understood LXY's true character and intentions, unlike everyone around LXY who put him on an unfair pedestal, called him arrogant and unfairly blamed him for the fall of sigu sect. FDB, the only person who LLH felt always treated him like a regular *human being*, whether it was LXY or LLH.
(source credit: forayuarchive's translation of the ep 27 original script on twitter, which has a flashback to the original ep 19 scene with the deleted line saying zhi jiao)
#莲花楼#mysterious lotus casebook#li lianhua#fang duobing#fanghua#fanghua is really about being Known; Understood; loved for who you are in a world where everyone else saw you as some kind of isuperhuman o#a pedestal expected to be infallible. rather than a human bein. FDB was truly the only one who saw and understood and loved both LXY and LL#mlc meta
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SCREAMMMM not my mom telling me to be bisexual today....idk whether or not to feel insulted or not
#for context i came out to her 2 1/2 years ago but didn't provide a label. i just told her i liked women and that i likely wouldn't date men#so today she was telling me that she understood being gay but she didn't really understand the concept of bisexuality so i was#explaining it to her and she was like. you should be like that. you should be open to whoever you like#i did not know what to say LMAOO i just told her not to expect me to get a boyfriend bc i didn't think it would make me happy#which she conceded to but still. damn#rae.txt
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Can't stop thinking about the thoughts Mel must have had after waking up to an empty bed. She had just laid her heart bare, given her body to Jayce and to wake up the next morning alone?
When he returns to her, she tells him there's a lot he doesn't know about her. She'd shared such an intimate part of her the night before, but she doesn't want Jayce to feel like he knows her. Because if he thinks he knows her, he must have not considered her worthy of staying for. She likely thought that he had gotten what he wanted from her and cast her off.
And why should Mel think this? A woman who is so wealthy, so beautiful, so accomplished and powerful? Because her mother had seen her and cast her off. Her family had disowned her because she was not good enough in their estimation. So all those twelve years that she's been in exile, and her mother has not visited her or called her back to her side, Mel likely thought she was not good enough. All those twelve years, she was just a girl trying hard enough to be.
And then Jayce comes, bares his heart to her as well. Lets her see him in his weakness, in his uncertainty. Shows her how much he values her, wants her around, how highly he holds her opinion. Even when he knows. Perhaps, because he knows her heart. Values it and the compassion she holds within her. And she finally feels good enough.
Only for her mother to come, and tell her it's time to come back home, to be at her side. Only after her brother is dead. When there is no other choice. So yes, of course Mel chooses Jayce, Piltover, and the legacy of peace they've begun to forge. Her family disowned her. Now, she disowns them too.
#losing my mind over mel and every aspect of her that is revealed#i keep thinking about when elora gave her the letter from her mother#to be under her mother's eye for the first time in twelve years#would ambessa deem her good enough?#and that's what had her so nervous#maybe she thought “it's finally time. i'm going home.”#mel's arc is one of acceptance; of being true to oneself; of finding family and being understood outside of the expectation of others#mel medarda#mel arcane#arcane mel#arcane league of legends#arcane#mel i love you#i love her so muuuuuch#arcane meta
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Kestrel "Kes" de Riva 🐦⬛
🟣 Age || 31 🟣 Lineage || Human 🟣 Pronouns || He/Him ~ Transgender 🟣 Identity || Gay 🟣 Class || Mage 🟣 Specialization(s) || Spellblade 🟣 Faction || The Antivan Crows 🟣 Romance || Lucanis 🟣 Besties || Neve & Emmrich 🟣 Frenemies || Davrin
#oc: kestrel de riva#my ocs#my screenshots#dragon age the veilguard#datv#datv rook#rook de riva#antivan crow rook#antivan crows#crow rook#rook#aka: de riva de diva#and he is one too my goodness#his impulse control is as uncontrollable as his need for style#the first thing he complained about when he got sidelined was the fact that he'd have to turn in his crow clothing to lay low#he and viago almost had it out because of it but teia stepped in--as she always does#he just likes the finer things in life 🤷♀️#and he never wants to lose what he gains...which makes things difficult as one could imagine#he came from a crappy family growing up--one that unfortunately got his parents contracts taken out on them#his family resented him for having magic and were heavily andrastian--lots of religious trauma i imagine there#but they were also hypocritical and...not good people. i'm still working out finer details :T#kes was spared and 'mercifully' taken in by the crows as they saw his potential#again still working out the finer details of his life but he's been through the ringer in a way and takes being a crow to heart now#he likes the infamy and what it can get him and stepped into leading the veilguard more reluctantly than others#but he soon understood the necessity of this job--and a crow never abandons a contract 🫡🫠#getting to meet the demon of vyrantium (and wooing him) was a bonus even he didn't expect 😏#truthfully he's the one who was wooed he just won't admit defeat lol#viago has also been there since his transition and fully supported them in any way possible--even if kes is an idiot lol#kes felt like the crows have been truer family than his ever were to him buuuut that may be a bit of the indoctrination talking as well ~op
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