#viva germany

[mateushonrado]

First music videos from these four channels

Status Post #11261: As in those outside of MTV and VH1.

Videomusic (April 2, 1984)

"All Night Long (All Night)" by Lionel Richie (directed by Bob Rafelson)

VIVA (December 1, 1993)

"Zu geil für diese Welt" by Die Fantastischen Vier (no credited director)

4Music (August 15, 2008)

"The Pretender" by Foo Fighters (directed by Sam Brown)

CStar (September 5, 2016)

"Don't You Know" by Kungs featuring Jamie N. Commons (directed by Giany)

[haveyouplayedthisttrpg]

Have you played VIVA LA QUEERBAR ?

By Sandra Dahlhoff & Andrea Rick (Plotbunny Games)

Viva la QueerBar is a slice-of-life story game about a queer bar (or queer café) and the team who runs it. It's a game about the pleasures and struggles of being part of a queer community. Whether as a fantasy medieval tavern, a cyberpunk underground club, a real-world gay bar in a historical setting, an intergalactic queer bar on a spaceship, or anything else you can think of – the QueerBar lives wherever you want it to.

[kitclock]

Promo for Jam, Viva, Germany (source: Ruud Swart)

[number1greedlingfan]

"mcdonalds sprite would kill a victorian child" this "taco bell baja blast would kill a medieval peasant" that

I think a single taki would vaporize edward and alphonse elric

[mariluphoto]

BREAKING

The US, UK, Germany, Canada and other states have cut off UNRWA funding. They are accusing UNRWA workers of being part of the "October 7 attacks".

ÚLTIMA HORA

Estados Unidos, Reino Unido, Alemania, Canadá y otros estados han cortado la financiación de la UNRWA. Acusan a los trabajadores de la UNRWA de ser parte de los "ataques del 7 de Octubre".

via. IG: thegingarab

Note/Nota: There is no evidence to support their claim. Smells like a distraction and desperation to me.// No hay pruebas que respalden su afirmación. Me huele a distracción y desesperación.

[stuckinakillingjar]

can't believe that i'm missing a possible undav hattrick for this boring ass turkey vs montenegro game

[azspicegirlstimeline]

7/9/00 - victoria on viva interaktiv in germany after party in the park.

[goddessofsprinkles]

Ah, I love being a background character. So peaceful. Just an unimportant NPC, with no major ties to any plot line whatsoever.

[doyoulikethissong-poll]

The Cranberries - Zombie 1994

"Zombie" is a protest song by Irish alternative rockband the Cranberries. It was written by the lead singer, Dolores O'Riordan, about the young victims of a bombing in Warrington, England, during the Troubles in Northern Ireland. The song was released on 19 September 1994 as the lead single from the Cranberries' second studio album, No Need to Argue. While the record label feared releasing a too controversial and politically charged song as a single, "Zombie" reached number 1 on the charts of Australia, Belgium, Denmark, Germany, and Iceland, and spent nine consecutive weeks at number 1 on the French SNEP Top 100. It reached number 2 on the Ö3 Austria Top 40, where it stayed for eight weeks. The song did not chart on the US Billboard Hot 100 chart as it wasn't released as a single there, but it reached number 1 on the US Billboard Alternative Airplay chart. Listeners of the Australian radio station Triple J voted it number 1 on the 1994 Triple J Hottest 100 chart, and it won the Best Song Award at the 1995 MTV Europe Music Awards.

The Troubles were a conflict in Northern Ireland from the late 1960s to 1998. The Provisional Irish Republican Army (IRA), an Irish republican paramilitary organisation, waged an armed campaign to end British rule in Northern Ireland and unite the region with the Republic of Ireland. Republican and Unionist paramilitaries killed more than 3,500 people, many from thousands of bomb attacks. One of the bombings happened on 30 March 1993, as two IRA improvised explosive devices hidden in litter bins were detonated in a shopping street in Warrington, England. Two people; Johnathan Ball, aged 3, and Tim Parry, aged 12, were killed in the attack. 56 people were injured. Ball died at the scene of the bombing as a result of his shrapnel-inflicted injuries, and five days later, Parry lost his life in a hospital as a result of head injuries. O'Riordan decided to write a song that reflected upon the event and the children's deaths after visiting the town: "We were on a tour bus and I was near the location where it happened, so it really struck me hard – I remember being devastated about the innocent children being pulled into that kind of thing. So I suppose that's why I was saying, 'It's not me' – that even though I'm Irish it wasn't me, I didn't do it. Because being Irish, it was quite hard, especially in the UK when there was so much tension." The song was re-popularised in 2023 after it was played after Ireland games at the 2023 Rugby World Cup. It was picked up by fans of the Irish team, with videos of fans singing the song in chorus accumulating hundreds of thousands of views on social media. This offended other Irishmen, who identified it as an "anti-IRA" anthem, and said that that the lyrics failed to consider their experience during the Troubles.

The music video, directed by Samuel Bayer, was filmed in Belfast, Northern Ireland, in the heart of the Troubles with real footage, and in Dublin. To record video footage of murals, children and British Army soldiers on patrol, he had a false pretext, with a cover story about making a documentary about the peace-keeping efforts in Ireland. Bayer stated that a shot in the video where an SA80 rifle is pointed directly at the camera is a suspicious British soldier asking him to leave, and that the IRA were keeping a close look at the shoot, given "the British Army come in with fake film crews, getting people on camera.” While "Zombie" received heavy rotation on MTV Europe and was A-listed on Germany's VIVA, the music video was banned by the BBC because of its "violent images", and by the RTÉ, Ireland's national broadcaster. Instead, both the BBC and the RTÉ opted to broadcast an edited version focusing on footage of the band in a live performance, a version that the Cranberries essentially disowned. Despite their efforts to maintain the original video "out of view from the public", some of the initial footage prevailed, with scenes of children holding guns. In March 2003, on the eve of the outbreak of the Iraq War, the British Government and the Independent Television Commission issued a statement saying ITC's Programme Code would temporarily remove from broadcast songs and music videos featuring "sensitive material", including "Zombie". Numerous media groups complied with the decision to avoid "offending public feeling", along with MTV Europe. Since it violated the ITC guidelines, "Zombie" was placed on a blacklist of songs, targeting its official music video. The censorship was lifted once the war had ended. In April 2020, it became the first song by an Irish group to surpass one billion views on Youtube.

"Zombie" received a total of 91% yes votes!

[kitclock]

Jam, Viva - 1995 German Sparks Special (Part 6/6)

Translated subtitles by jen2325

[the-red-planet-mars]

THE UWU REVOLUTION

@the-lovely-planet-earth no matter what you do you will never be free from this; not until my chaotic desires are satisfied. Not until the contributors of the revolution deem it done.

You guys better keep this going for at least a few weeks. Please-

Interact with Earth only with uwu-fied lingo

Tag with: uwufy earthy (not just this u can add other tags ofc)

VIVA LA UWU REVOLUTION!

@the-panic-moon-deimos @the-lovely-planet-earth @the-principality-of-sealand @the-official-italy @moon-of-fear-phobos

@official-denmark @official-planet-pluto @official-new-zealand @planet-king-jupiter @pizza-moon-io

@speckled-callisto @moon-of-jupiter-callisto @france-unofficial @totally-italy @totally-france

@realsafari @decafcatfeen @definitely-brasil @definitely-canada @i-am-the-milky-way-galaxy

@true-blue-straya @spain-unofficial @the-real-illinois @zoozve-official

@antiquitian-empire @india-official @same-pic-of-mars-everyday @same-pic-of-the-blood-moon @i-dont-know-how-to-name-this

@100percent-chipotle @guatemala-official @i-dont-know-how-to-name-this1 @forever-scotland @google-news-official

@unusuallyy @genuinely-germany @femboy-google-news-official @minecraft--unofficial

@the-problemo @concrete-the-cat @non-tyrannical-usa @denmark-forreal @denmark-official

[grumpymfer]

MCR lost media 😔

if anyone has any of these on an old pc somewhere please put them on youtube!! 🙏🏻

MTV TRL interview, January 17th 2005

they performed i’m not okay (which is on youtube) but the interview was removed from youtube many years ago due to a copyright claim, the interview also featured pierre from simple plan

Têtes à Kat - Radio Canada, March 2005

very short segment, i’m not even sure if this is part of a longer interview tbh lol

Much 911 interview (2005)

short segment on youtube, probably part of a longer interview

Space Shower TV interview, Japan 2005

Five things you need to know about My Chemical Romance - MTV interview (2005)

one segment on youtube

VIVA - 17 interview with Gerard and Ray (2005?)

(only on youtube as some kind of dubbed over spanish meme version??)

MTV TRL Germany (unknown date, 2005 or early 2006?) with Mikey and Gerard

(very short clip)

Plus Sur Commande November 2005 interview with Frank and Gerard

there were originally three parts of this interview on youtube, only the second part can still be accessed via the wayback machine :(

MTV2 Gonzo with Zane Lowe interview (early 2006?)

(short segment)

MTV TRL interview 2006

MTV Full Tank interview 2007

(short segment)

MTV News 2007 Black Parade tour kickoff

there are some segments of this interview on youtube, but there were originally four parts available on the MTV website and some of them are missing :(

MusiquePlus/Plus Sur Commande (?) 2007 with Gerard and Bob

short fan filmed clip

Music Station interview, Japan 2007

they also performed welcome to the black parade at this tv show, this video shows them briefly talking in their parade outfits before playing:

https://youtu.be/dRGFGhGhJIk?feature=shared

NRK P3 at Hovefestivalen 2007

the tv channel that broadcast this has an archive online but i can’t find this clip on there or on youtube

SummerSonic Japan interview 2009

Gerard Way Overwatch stream with Steve Aoki, 30th September 2016

only clips available, not the whole thing :(

https://youtu.be/_oVHeP5_7pg?feature=shared

[meryldian]

Hiii! This is my first time doing a request. So this is like a hurt-comfort idea. The reader has been like bullied for being like emo ( kinda in a similar style of bills style ) and when bill and the reader are young they become best friends and now when they are older, she’s a rockstar with Tokio hotel and all the people who used to bully her are jealous. 🤭🤭

✧˖°. Things do get better ✧˖°. Reader & Platonic! Bill Kaulitz

I sure can!! I love this idea actually <3 It’s something I can realistically see happening knowing how tolerance was back then, and tokio hotel themselves being victims of bullying. Let’s just be happy that things are better! Just like they’d be for you in this scenario

- I wrote this for platonic Bill, but if you wish for a romantic one just shoot me a request. I’m more than happy to work on them <3

Bill and you probably met at school and became one another’s safe person to be honest.

It was comforting to you to have someone that not only understood and loved your style, but shared it in some ways.

Also someone that knew how getting insulted, pushed around and harassed at a place that’s supposed to be safe felt like.

He always understood the need to express your true self and emotions through clothes, music, et cetera. You bet that his eyes were hooked on you from the moment he saw you.

Chunky and studded belts, gravity defying or sleek hair, or some amazing curls that reminded him of Nena. No matter how your physical appearance might be, it was the way that you portrayed and carried yourself that drove Bill to you.

He was probably so shy when approaching you !!

Sadly, you can’t always see the world through rose tinted glasses. The situation at school and around town didn’t get much better after befriending Bill..

Two is better than one; you guys were easy targets for people’s cruelty.

It was the late 90s & early 2000s, acceptance was lacking much more than it is today.

Tom was you guys’s main defender.

He might’ve been embarrassed of his brother’s style from time to time back in the day (Bill talked about this in his book) but he would never turn his back on him.

One time the twins found you all roughed up after some kids thought it was funny to charge at you as a group. They took you to their home, cleaned you up and their mom cooked you guys dinner.

You watched some movies on VHS and music videos on VIVA.

Not going to lie, you probably trauma bonded with Bill a lot. It might’ve been harmful in it’s ways but it genuinely helped you guys get some relief.

Whenever someone would make a comment out of place or physically harm you, Tom would go feral. You actually had to hold him back from getting dangerously physical a couple times.

Exciting the school grounds, running for your life along with the twins was no rare occurrence.

Bill was not scared to fight back either (verbally) but it took much more to get it out of him. He genuinely just wished to forget about them and go back to his safe bubble with you, his twin and the band.

Speaking of the band, Bill must definitely took you in rapidly as your style matched “Devilish” so well.

It was a tough road to stardom but you guys rose to fame practically overnight when your first single as “Tokio Hotel” dropped. (Shamelessly promoting my Growing up with Tokio Hotel series)

At first there wasn’t much change when it came to bullying. Outside of school you were the newest star in Germany. A young icon for teenagers that needed someone to look up to. Back at school, you were still a looser for many.

At least they learned to shut their mouths a minute. They just looked.

But their looks changed. It wasn’t pure mockery anymore. Their stares were full of jealousy because they knew they could never achieve what you did, and no matter how hard they tried they couldn’t take that away from you.

It generated even more hatred, as if “why does the social reject become a star when I’m the popular and normal one”

Shortly after, you needed to show up to class with a bodyguard.

It was ironic how the reject everyone hated suddenly became the centre of attention. For the best and worst. Some adored you and wanted your autograph and photo, cornering you in the halls. On the other side, some were there to harm you because they wanted your downfall.

To go in and out of school along with the twins, you needed high security. Which inevitably set you even more aside from the others.

Thank god you got permission to get out of that hell hole called highschool.

Time passed fast and Tokio Hotel rose to fame like a rocket ship exiting the atmosphere. Quickly, explosively and destructively. You were on top of the world.

Tour after tour, receiving award after award.

There were rough times and mistreatment by the label but, it couldn’t compare to everything you went through prior. Tokio Hotel and the stage were your escape and safe place.

Bill was with you at every step. Writing songs, working on new riffs, comforting you when it got hard. You never quit each other’s side through the years.

You can’t begin to describe the satisfaction of looking down to one of your school bullies in the front row as you were on stage, rocking out with Bill.

Approaching him, flawlessly playing your instrument as he sung. Face to face, happily and freely.

The look on your bully’s face was priceless, pure jealousy and hatred, yet they couldn’t resist the song.

Call it petty, but it felt damn good to shove in their face that you’re thriving while they’re forced to look up at the people they stepped and spit on.

You would never forget their faces, but they would stay in your past. What matters is how you managed to get out of there

If you ever have a bad time remembering those times, Bill will be there for you. His idea of friendly therapy to get over it might not be the most practical; as it is getting wasted and party it out- but gosh does it cheer you up. No matter how much time passes, Bill’s antics will be there to help you.

You always admired how he stayed bright and even when the world crumbled around him.

A good decade later you found yourself getting recognized at a coffee shop in Berlin as you were out of rehearsals for your next tour. It was a little girl with coloured hair and glasses. She told you how she found the band through TikTok and your songs helped her through hard times. Just to look up and see that her parent is the same bitch that made your life miserable so many years ago.

You simply smirked, signing an autograph for the girl and allowing her to take a photo with you.

You could’ve shoved this in your bully’s face, but there’s nothing that will bother them more than showing them how happy, and better you are.

[sissylittlefeather]

One Shot Masterlist

I decided to gather all of the one shots into a list together with descriptions, so you know what you're getting into before you read it!

What a Lovely Way to Burn

Two words: Angry Elvis. You're at a party together and he catches you talking to another man. Needless to say, he's less than pleased.

Warnings: 18+ minors DNI! There's some dirty smut here, kissing, fingering, oral (both receiving), p in v sex, unprotected sex, lots of cussing, Elvis and reader yelling at each other a lot, him grabbing reader's arm and being a teensy bit violent (if you squint), reader calls Elvis "daddy" in a sexual context at one point...

You're the Boss

You show up in Elvis's room after a show and show him who's boss. The mirror belt plays a starring role.

Warnings: this is absolutely 18+ only, MDNI!!! Cussing, fingering, oral (f & m receiving), p in v sex, unprotected sex (with a stranger), swallowing, teasing, and the reader being pretty dominant. I hope that's everything.

Devil in Disguise

In honor of Halloween, a spooky story featuring army Elvis and you, a vampire who's looking to feed on a young, vital man. But, you need a little help from a friend to really get what you're looking for.

Warnings: 18+ SMUT MDNI!!!! Kissing, cussing, fingering, oral sex (f receiving), a little girl on girl action, threesome (MFF), p in v sex, unprotected sex, creampie, also vampire bites and blood drinking

Power of My Love

You and Elvis are out for a drive when you are overcome with desire. There's only one way to get what you want, and Elvis isn't complaining.

Warnings: 18+ MDNI SMUT, kissing, cussing, oral sex (m receiving), public sex (road head), fingering, teasing, dangerous driving, etc.

Hot for Teacher

An AU where you and Elvis teach together at a local high school. You have a crush on each other and everything is fine until you chaperone a student trip to Fort Lauderdale together.

Warnings: 18+ minors DNI!, kissing, cussing, fingering, oral sex (f receiving), p in v sex, unprotected sex, ejaculation, also some baby talk during sex kinda?

I Can Help

Your husband, Elvis, has been rehearsing late into the night for his upcoming Vegas show. One night he comes home early and finds you in the process of missing him.

Warnings: 18+ minors DNI, this is pure smut, kissing, cussing, fingering, masturbation (f), p in v penetrative sex, unprotected sex, creampie

Make Me Know It

It's 1960 and your boyfriend, Elvis, is just home from the army. However, you know he's been a bad boy in Germany, so you intend to make him sorry for messing around.

Warnings: 18+ minors DNI, kissing, cussing, teasing, reader being a little dom, foot action, masturbation (both m&f), references to oral sex, p in v penetrative sex, unprotected sex, creampie, and I think that's all

A Little Less Conversation

This isn't your first time acting, but it is your first time acting with Elvis Presley. He takes you aside to calm you down and is surprised to find it has the opposite effect on him.

Warnings: 18+ minors DNI, kissing, cussing, fingering, oral sex (f receiving), p in v penetrative sex, unprotected sex, ejaculation

Baby, Let's Play House

You're stuck in a bad marriage, but your sweet neighbor, Elvis, has no intentions of letting you suffer alone. What starts as an innocent yard work arrangement turns to much more when your husband takes things too far.

Warnings: 18+ minors DNI, kissing, cussing, fingering, p in v penetrative sex, unprotected sex, creampie, infidelity, domestic violence (happens "off screen", Elvis is not violent), mentions of infertility

Viva Las Vegas

You've grown up as part of the mafia in Las Vegas. Elvis is relatively new to the game, but he doesn't hesitate to dive in deep when he falls in love with you, the daughter of his biggest rival.

Warnings: SO MUCH SMUT AND VIOLENCE 18+ NO MINORS, kissing, cussing, fingering, oral sex (both receiving), p in v sex, unprotected sex, swallowing, ejaculation, creampie, ALSO GUN VIOLENCE

[lilysqueaks]

Introduction

Hiii👋😊 my name is Lily (she/her | it/its), a horny pan, demi, poly, nerdy mouse girl living near the baltic sea in the north of Germany. Often avoid the use of "I" in my sentences for some reason or sometimes talk about myself in third person. No idea why.

Uses Arch btw. Posting tech & gamedev stuff over at @godot-official

My DMs are open so feel free to message me if you want to talk or if you're in a flirty mood. 🤭 Asks (+anon) are open as well, use them for questions or just to tease me. 👉 👈 I may not respond immediately. Sometimes i'm busy, sometimes i forget to reply & sometimes i'm too shy and don't know what to write. 😅

On HRT since: 05.04.2023 🥰

Contractually owned since: 30.11.2024 by @greenpanties 😘

My original posts are tagged with #lily squeaks, and my reblogs are tagged with #squeaky things.

Twitch: twitch.tv/lily_squeaks

YouTube: youtube.com/@LilySqueaks

Minors DNI

Click "Read More" for Interests, Fashion, Games & Kinks.

Interests

Gaming 👾

Everything computer related, e.g. software dev, hardware stuff, basically everything 💻

Sewing 🪡

Fashion

I like everything comfy in pastel and pink. Shiny black if I feel fancy and the occasional blue tones to mix things up. 👗

Games

Feel free to message me if you want to play anything or just wanna talk about video games. 🎮

Nier & Nier Automata

Chrono Trigger

Celeste

It Takes Two

Final Fantasy XIV

Dark Souls

Divinity 2

Stardew Valley

Tunic

RimWorld

Terraria

Oxygen not Included

Viva Pinata

Left 4 Dead

Lost in Random

Mass Effect

Persona

Wakfu

Forza Horizon

Kinks

Everything from a submissive / bottom pov. 🤭

Last orgasm 23.01.25 ???*

*I'm trained with the "Orgasm Go Bye Bye" hypno file by LilithUnleashed. Causing me to be unable to cum without permission, and even forgetting my orgasms. So my last orgasm date is most often the one my owner told me. 😳

Hypno

Feet

Bondage

Tickling

BDSM

Brainwashing / Gaslighting

Narratophilia

Temperature play

Impact / Sensation play

E-Stim, Chastity

Anal

Tease & Denial

Objectification

Dumbification

Free use

Intox

Somno

Voyeurism

Gentle humiliation & praise kink

Clicker training

Body writing / painting

CNC

Sensory deprivation

Breath play

Latex

Public exposure

Pet play

CBT

Sweat

Scent/Smell

Diapers

I'm locked into chasity until the 22. April 2026. You can check my lock status on my chaster page.

Limits

Ruined orgasms

Incest

Scat

Vomit

Detrans

Raceplay

Orientation play

Minors DNI

[keepthedelta]

since this is the delta help desk, I have come to you once again to dip into your vast swathe of motorsport knowledge.

I've seen a lot of pictures of Nico from his early years in the sport and read a lot of articles where he is described as good looking, handsome, blonde etc and have heard some discussions where pre dts f1 fans have called him the og pretty boy, and charles' predecessor etc. I wanted to understand the cultural hype around Nico in his early years? Like the current f1 fandom is very americanised and charles definitely enjoys the fruits of being good looking. Did Nico have something similar? Like fans emphasizing their love for Nico because of how pretty he is, giving him an almost pop idol sort of worship. I understand that f1 had a smaller fan base back then and it was more men that women probably so this sort of talk was probably frowned upon. But did Nico drive people un poco loco, essentially? Would love your thoughts.

Side note: the nico pfp is soooo darling and the photoset you reblogged of him carrying his little daughter on his shoulder where she is holding onto his ear with her chubby baby hand...... sewercideeeee

oh this is kind of a hard one. i feel like the most accurate and honest answer i can give you is no. and yes. which is very irritating of me, but bear with me.

the culture around f1 was massively different back then, both when nico first started and when he left. the audience was smaller and mostly male, and information about the drivers and their personalities was extremely limited, mostly due to FOM rules regulating what behind the scenes stuff teams and drivers could post. most of the "fun" content and insight that teams can do now was only done through the broadcasters like sky, the bbc, espn etc.

the other main source of information about drivers i would say was tabloids. and certain drivers like jenson button, kimi raikkonen and to a slightly lesser (or different) extent lewis hamilton became very famous because of them. michael schumacher was a god of racing, and lewis had the whole young prodigy dating an american popstar thing, but even before jenson and kimi won their championships they were very well known for drinking and partying and dating lots and lots of very beautiful women, some famous, some not. it was a bit more rockstar than popstar i guess, where the extremes of the life, the heavy drinking, the hard partying, the fast driving, the beautiful women were seen as aspirational for the mostly male audience.

and nico never really fit into that. he did the drinking and partying, but away from the cameras usually, and his awkwardness and resting bitch face made people think that he was boring and stuck up. he was also so steadfastly loyal to vivian, who seems like his only real relationship (they began dating at 18 and people who worked with nico back in the junior formulas said that he never brought girls round other than her) in an era where cheating was so widespread and normalised that some fans speculated about his sexuality, suggesting that vivian was a beard and he was actually gay (he was also close with lewis, adrian sutil and nelson piquet jr who also all had speculation over their sexualities so i think that was part of it as well).

i think there was some pop idol-ism in women's treatment of nico back in the day. when he was in formula bmw as the most aggressively blonde 17 year old in existence he was sponsored by viva, which i believe was the german version of mtv, and i think more broadly the whole formula bmw championship was promoted on that channel, making the racers relatively popular with the teenage girls of germany. i also remember seeing an interview nico and some of the other drivers like romain grosjean did (i think in canada 2013 but i can't be sure) where a couple of women in the audience said they were there to see nico because he was so pretty. and if you go into some of the old reddit threads on f1 there are some comments about how pretty nico is and can you blame the camera operator for zooming in so the audience can count his eyelashes? (i believe reddit's consensus was no, you can't blame the camera operator).

i think one of the major differences (other than the different fan cultures) between nico's early years and charles's early years is that charles was promoted to ferrari almost immediately while nico was stuck outdriving fairly terrible cars. one of the reasons why charles has such a large fanbase is because he's driving for a top team, has done so for a long time, and is hailed (rightly or wrongly) as a future world champion. nico never really had any of that hype. he had moments of brilliance in his early years and outdrove all of his cars and teammates (i know mark webber beat him in the head to head in nico's first year but he beat everyone else), but the williams was at best a midfield car and so the hype wasn't really there in the way it has been for charles at ferrari. i think it's also fair to say that as well as nico did in his early career, he was overshadowed by lewis coming into mclaren and immediately challenging for a championship. maybe things would have been different if nico had been able to accept the mclaren seat in 2008, but ultimately he got very few opportunities to show his talent in his early career. and in an era where fandom gravitated either to the challengers (michael, kimi, fernando, lewis) or the playboys (kimi, jenson) nico didn't really fit either mould.

i also think we have to acknowledge the negativity that surrounded nico throughout his career, largely because of his looks. i (and f1blr more broadly) joke a lot about nico causing sexuality crises throughout the paddock, and while it is a joke, i do think there was a lot of very genuine homophobia (and misogyny) directed at nico, especially in his early career. while other drivers, like jenson for example, were thought of as good looking, it was in an aspirational way (aspirational for women to have in a partner and aspirational for men to be, and therefore to get women), whereas nico was viewed as attractive in a "feminine" way, which was seen as the wrong way. he was too pretty, too conscious about it, too effeminate. the britney nickname, fans constantly calling him barbie as an insult, the most attractive woman in the paddock vote where someone (pretty sure nico has said it was seb) voted for him, it was all based in a perception of him as "womanly" and therefore "weak". he was good-looking in a way that men couldn't fantasise about being, because they associated him too heavily with the people, usually women, that they wanted to fuck.

as much as people like to talk about how feral men are for charles now, it is largely in a positive way. when men talked about nico being pretty it was in a derogatory way, rooted in the culture of the time, which was generally quite homophobic and misogynistic. i think he did drive them crazy, but not necessarily in a good way 🤷🏿‍♀️