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I've noticed this pattern with antis in fandom where, in their attempt to distance themselves from anything and everything "problematic" in their fandoms, they refuse to acknowledge when they DO enjoy something problematic. Therefore, they don't recognize the problematic elements of the ship, character, media, etc. They'll also heavily downplay or deny any problematic. aspects of their favorite fandom thing.
I just saw an example of this and it is blowing my mind right now and I need to share this with y'all.
It involves the comments on this video.
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Some context for Princess and the Frog: the blonde girl is Charlotte, also called Lottie. She's the main character Tiana's best friend. Charlotte's goal was always to marry a prince, and she almost marries (who she believes to be) Prince Naveen, but once she sees that Naveen and Tiana are in love, she tries to help them turn back human so they can be together.
At the end of the movie, Tiana and Naveen get married, and this scene plays after. Charlotte dances with Naveen's kid brother, and says "I've waited this long" in response to him saying that he's 6 and a half years old.
Now Charlotte's line here, if you look at the context clues of her story line, implies that she's saying "I've waited this long for a prince to marry, so I can wait longer for Naveen's younger brother to grow up." It's just a joke. Albeit, a joke that many will find to be very uncomfortable and inappropriate, but a joke nonetheless. I highly doubt Charlotte is actually going to "wait for" this child to grow up to marry him. She's making a joke at her expense, about her desperation of her dream to marry a prince.
BUT FOR SOME REASON.... many of the comments are like "she means that she's been waiting to DANCE with a prince."
I'm completely and utterly serious y'all. Here are some of the comments along those lines, with thousands of thumbs up each.
If you've seen this movie, you'll realize that these comments make absolutely no sense for more than one reason.
1) Charlotte danced with Prince Naveen (or at least with the villain disguised as him) earlier in the movie. She danced with a prince already. Why would that still be her dream if she already accomplished that?
2) Lottie speaks multiple times (during her childhood and in present day as a young adult) about her dream of "marrying a prince." Not dancing with a prince. Not meeting one. No, she wants to MARRY A PRINCE AND BE A PRINCESS.
This video has some clips of her saying this, at the time stamps 0:20, 2:52, 4:08, and 5:21.
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Charlotte does give up her dream of marrying Naveen specifically for Tiana, because she see that he makes Tiana happy. But with how she jumps in like a wide receiver to catch the bouquet at Naveen and Tiana's wedding, it's clear she still has her dream of marrying *A* prince, just not Naveen.
But back to the comments on that video.
The comments seem to be downplaying the actual implication of her line. It's almost like they're desperately trying to ignore what she actually meant and make it more wholesome because they don't want to admit that their favorite movie has an uncomfy and inappropriate joke.
It's disturbing that this is yet another example where people in fandom (who are fantis or have been influenced by that fanti mindset) are downplaying a scene (or a ship, trope, etc) that is ACTUALLY problematic because they personally like the movie or the character and they don't want to admit that it has some issues. Instead of just admitting "yeah that scene/line was kinda fucked up and gross," they are jumping through HOOPS to make it seem more innocent than it was. And this is completely blowing my mind and is honestly concerning.
If you want to personally interpret it in a different way, in a way to make it more palatable to you, be my guest. That's what fandom and fanon is all about and I do that a lot too. But to see so many people outright deny the actual implications of this line is... bizarre af. It's one thing to be like "hmm yeah I don't like that, so I'm going to personally interpret this ship/trope/scene differently so it's more comfortable to me." It's another thing entirely to be in complete denial and ignore the actual context of the character and their story.
Also, so many of the other comments on the video aren't even commenting on the actual scene or on what Charlotte said. They're just generic comments on how much they love Charlotte as a character or how they miss this 2D animation. It's like they're trying reallyyyyyy hard to ignore the joke that's being made.
On the grander scheme, this is concerning because these people are refusing to acknowledge something that's inappropriate at best and predatory at worse (an adult "waiting" for a child to grow up) because they don't want to be caught enjoying/supporting something "bad."
All their talk about normalizing and normalization, but they're the ones kinda normalizing bad things by downplaying them or being in denial of it when it's in THEIR favorite media. And that is very concerning and a big issue.
#throwing salt#uh what other tags did i use to use? I legit can't remember#fandom discourse#fantis#Youtube
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Why are fandom discord servers some of the most stress inducing places in the world like why is it when you post anything into any chat it feels like either a) you're purposely being ignored or b) you've pissed someone off just by speaking. And it's such a pain in the dick because if you want any sort of help with anything or want to be even a little bit apart of a community you have to be in these servers. While the whole time it feels like that one meme picture of all the girls sneering at the camera because you dared show your face in there
#near unbearable and near impossible to find a fandom server that doesn't feel like being in high school#especially one fandom but if i say which i just know people will throw a tantrum because they can't handle seeing a negative opinion#and this isn't about mutuals or friends who'll see this it's about the hell that is fandom servers with more than 40 people in them#misc: salted#misc: personal#block those tags if you don't want to see this kind of post#greatest hits
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9-1-1 • S1E01 || S7E09 ↳ “Has it really been that long?”
#i just noticed making this set that buck throws the salt over his shoulder ugh i love him so much#in other news i'm so not ready for next week i don't think i will survive at all#bobby nash#evan buckley#that's his dad#911#911 abc#911edit#911 1x01#911 7x09#my gif#anztag#usernolan#useraimz#edits*#parallels*#911gifs
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Eat! Eat, it’s okay! You eat! YOU EAT! ↳ 9 / ∞
#stray kids#bang chan#bystay#staysource#channiesnet#createskz#staydaily#skzco#usersa#staytay#dreamytag#userbeepls#usertsu#usersemily#bitsforkitts#melontrack#*mine#channienoms#food cw#lobster#<- in case anyone doesn't like to see that#food#lmk if i need to add other tags for blacklisting of that specific food#there was a bit before this where a lady was throwing salt on a squid and it was moving and i know he was irked by that#he was giving it a side eye so bad dhfjfjg
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Shen Yuan getting transported into pidw isn't "the system punishing him for being a lazy internet hater," but instead representative of "step 1 of the creative process: getting so mad at something you decide to go write your own fucking book" in this essay I will
#svsss#scum villian self saving system#shen qingqiu#shen yuan#the fact that people think scum villain#-a series that examines and criticizes common tropes in fiction-#is somehow against criticism or being a little hater is wild to me#especially since shen qingqiu never gets punished for being a hater#heck- he's still a little hater by the end of the series#he mostly gets punished for treating life like a play and like he and the people around him are characters#(or in other words- he suffers for denying his own wants and emotions and his own sense of empathy)#I think some of y'all underestimate how much writing/art is inspired by creaters being little haters#like example off the top of my head-#the author of Iron Widow has been pretty vocal about the book being inspired by their hatred of Darling in the Franxx#I think my interpretation of Shen Yuan's transmigration is also supported by the fact that this series is an examines writing processes#side note- though i understand why people say Shen Yuan is lazy and think its a valid take it still doesnt sit right with me#i am probably biased because my own experiences with chronic pain and depression and isolation#but ya- i dont think Shen Yuan is lazy so much as he is deeply lonely and feels purposeless after denying parts of himself for 20ish years#like yall remember the online fandom boom from covid right?#being stuck completely alone in bed while feeling like shit for 20 days straight does shit to your brain#the fact that no one came to check on him + he wasn't exactly upset about leaving anyone behind supports the isolation interpretation too#+in the skinner demon arc he describes his life of being a faker/inability to stop being a faker now that he's Shen Qingqiu#as “so bland he's tempted to throw salt on himself” and “all he could do is lay around and wait for death” (<-paraphrasing)#bro wants to be doing stuff but is stuck in paralysis from repeatedly following scrips made by other people#another point on “Shen Yuan isn’t lazy” is just the sheer amount of studying that man does#also he did graduate college- how lazy can he really be#he doesnt know what hes doing but he at least tries to actively train his students#and he actually works on improving his own cultivation + spends quite a bit of time preping the mushroom body thing#+he's experiencing bouts of debilitating chronic pain throughout all this#but ya tldr: Shen Yuan's transmigration is an encouragement to write and not a punishment and also i dont think its fair to call him lazy
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Katara: *brings up her mother’s death, someone who died in her place because of ethnic cleansing, less than 10 times in show about world-wide colonization*
Fans: Katara is SO ANNOYING. She brings up her mom’s death every three minutes and I wish she’d just stop.
#ethnic cleansing mention#mention of ethnic cleansing#atla fandom salt#this whole thing about Katara bringing up her dead mom makes me want to throw things#I wonder why a 14 year old girl would use her relationship to mom’s death#as a way to bridge the gap between her and other victims of colonization#atla#avatar#avatar the last airbender#katara
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Well, I think Jason should keep wearing a bat symbol and doing increasingly unhinged shit while wearing it 🫶 to corrupt the symbol that fucked his life over. Just like he took the name Red Hood, he should keep wearing the symbol of the other person responsible for destroying his life.
If he stops wearing it, it should be his decision, because he's done with those people :)
#fandom salt#jason todd#'x character should rip the bat off his chest 🙄🙄🙄'#and the throw him off a building 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄#can i say a thing? i dont think theres any other bat relationship less interesting than those two#bores me to death#it doesnt do anything for either of them that hasnt already been done#i shudder to think of CANON doing anything with them (i know that with the current status quo id fucking hate it)
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#art tag#rottmnt#leonardo#michelangelo#donatello#raph#raphael#to be honest this drawing is only to throw salt to the injury of the last raph sketches of him remembering the kraang
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Sakura spends that whole evening googling anti-possession tips
#Gael makes a post#mangacap#Wind Breaker#WBR#Suo#Sakura Haruka#boy needs Reigen to throw salt at him and everything will be fine
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Palestinian Own Voices Reading List
If you’re looking for books to read to help support Palestine and Palestinians through this current aggression and genocidal actions, I’ve created a list for you to look through. These books are all available through Bookshop.org, and may be available through your local libraries.
My Father Was A Freedom Fighter: Gaza's Untold Story, by Ramzy Baroud
Palestinian Walks: Forays Into a Vanishing Landscape, by Raja Shehadeh
In the Presence of Absence, by Richard Widerkehr
On Zionist Literature, by Ghassan Kanafani
Wondrous Journeys in Strange Lands, by Sonia Nimir
Power Born of Dreams: My Story Is Palestine, by Mohammad Sabaaneh
Stories Under Occupation: And Other Plays from Palestine, by Samer Al-Saber
Palestine Is Throwing a Party and the Whole World Is Invited: Capital and State Building in the West Bank, by Kareem Rabie
Rifqa, by Mohammed El-Kurd
Of Noble Origins: A Palestinian Novel, by Sahar Khalifeh
My First and Only Love, by Sahar Khalifeh
Salt Houses, by Hala Alyan
L.J. Stanton
#book list#book recommendations#Palestinian books#Palestine#Palestinian authors#support Palestine#my father was a freedom fighter book#palestinian walks#in the presenceo f absence#on zionist literature#wondrous journeys in strange lands#power born of dreams: my story is palestine#stories under occupation: and other plays from palestine#palestine is throwing a party#rifqa#of noble origins#my first and only love#salt houses
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Love how Izuku saw some vague shapes in the distance as he used OFA to break out of Shinsou's mind control and was like "oh yeah thats totally ghosts"
He's so casual about it too. Just says "hey I saw like multiple shadows in the distance and one of them had your hairstyle. any chance these are the souls of OFA?" and All Might is like "What are you TALKING ABOUT my boy 😨"
Personally I headcanon Izuku as a sort of horror/paranormal movie fan, so that's why he's unaffected and serious about it. He has watched way too many movies about stuff like this. He knows the drill
#izuku: quirks haunted#all might: WHAT#izuku grabbing his notebook and writing his thoughts down: quirks haunted#izuku is comparing it to one feature of a plot line in his favourite movie#meanwhile all might is throwing salt over his shoulder lol#bnha#all might#toshinori yagi#izuku midoriya#mettys posts#metty posts#one for all
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Gonna jump on here with a quick little story. When I saw this movie, during the credits, I overhead the group behind me say things like, "I'll give him a pass if he's 18, but if he's 22, then no" and "she's 16, it's so weird" and I was screaming internally because it's just like "THAT'S seriously your takeaway after watching this beautiful movie?? can't relate."
Anyways I agree with anon's take here. There's really nothing more than they obviously care about each other (which makes sense considering the life-changing, world-saving events they went through together) and it's hinted that they may be a thing after the movies events. And besides that, their ages are literally irrelevant
I finally got to watch makoto shinkai’s “Suzume”. I remember how angry antis were when the first trailers dropped because the guy Suzume meets is a university student while she’s 17 and in middle school. You can guess what antis called this “relationship”
However the movie didn’t really add any sort of romance (in my opinion). Makoto Shinkai is known for adding comedy to his works, which is why the guy she meets was transformed into a chair. Yes, you read that right 😂
throughout the movie it does look more like her crush on him was one sided but it’s also fair to say that the guy deeply cared for her too after she went through great lengths to help him. Seriously, antis judged the film based on trailers and probably never watched the movie
though I’m not opposed to the idea that they became a thing after the movie’s events but this is left ambiguous so
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Imports from the clock app
Hm.
Like, I don't get it?? Why JGY in especific? They could've used ANYONE. NMJ would be good for this. So would WRH and JGS and pretty much all men with very few exceptions. WHY JGY??? JGY, who could be killed on a whim and no one would bat an eye? (LXC and SMS would, but I don't think LXC would necessarily do anything about it, and SMS would but he'd get himself killed before anything of significance happened)
JGY who had very little reaction when Jin-furen threw a teapot at him? JGY who could only cower when NMJ lunged at him with baxia? JGY who's been under someone's boot his whole life?
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hello I love love love this clangen- your art, storytelling, world building, it’s all amazing! Do you have any tips on building characters and making them feel 3d, lifelike, and distinct from other characters? I’ve been trying to do a clangen but all my characters feel really 2d and flat…
Thank you so much!!! :DD I think the best way to make characters realistic/feel more fleshed out is to give them immediately visible flaws and then something to balance those out
Like for Moorsnow: She's too strict, distrustful, and doesn't express herself well (all flaws), but at the same time she loves her wife and daughter, she's willing to listen, she's not too proud to accept help etc.
If a happy character is happy all the time it can feel a little stale, so give them something to damper them or make them stand out - like maybe they secretly worry they're not good enough Or they accidently ignore people's feelings in favor of keeping the mood up so people can't be truthful around them
Or making an evil murderer kind to elders, or good with kits. It doesn't have to be that extreme, but basically juxtapositions make for good characters imo xD Thanks for asking!
#txt#asks#pick three contrasting traits and throw them at a character and they'll be interesting to write#i'm not any sort of professional writer though so grain of salt ya'know
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wow i went in the oilers lb thinking id find more fun and whimsy and holy they’re so miserable over there over 1 loss
that game was so entertaining and your team is good - what tf you mad about?
ALSO not ONE acknowledgment that before garland held mcdavid that mcdavid was literally PINNING GARLAND DOWN
y’all are delulu and really mean???????????
#i guess i’m being a little mean right now but only after i saw how much SALT was in the oilers tag#our tag is way more fun even when we’re losing#cause we’re never like grrr other team is mean :(#we just joke about throwing ourselves off bridges and jumping into the sea#anyway#canucks lb
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hot take: gustholomule was way better developed and had more chemistry than huntlow, despite not being a canon ship
#i still don't understand why they chose huntlow over gustholomule#gus and matt already had a solid foundation#but they had to throw in a ship that had zero chemistry#smh i hate it here#toh criticism#toh critical#toh discourse#toh salt#anti huntl0w#anti huntlow#the owl house criticism#the owl house critical#the owl house discourse#the owl house salt#anti toh#gustholomule
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