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op turned off reblogs on this post [Link], so I'm reposting this over here:
it's Extremely Unfortunate that we're at the point in trans masc exclusionism where we have to be hyper vigilant against seemingly innocuous posts.
when the op of this post says "men" in this post she means trans men.
trans men who present masc before (and sometimes during and after) hrt are often clocked as butch lesbians, because they are seen as feminine bodies presenting masculinely.
while there Are cis men who present similarly to butch lesbians (there's a very famous meme about it), how many cis men do you know that are Actively Trying or Want to present like butch lesbians?
or how about the Not Insignificant Overlap between trans mascs And butch lesbians (and lesbians in general)? the amount of trans mascs who identified as lesbians before they knew, who sometimes continue to feel a connection to that community as they realize more about their identity.
when op says "transandrophobia truthers" are the exact group of people this post was made about he's talking about trans mascs. this is a post saying that Trans Mascs aren't The Real Thing. and more specifically, the "transandrophobia truther" dog whistle refers back to trans mascs who stand up for themselves. who want their trauma to be taken seriously, who want to be treated like equals within the community. [Link]
it is a derogatory term that was specifically created by exclusionists to belittle trans mascs who speak up for themselves. it is Explicitly About trans mascs, and yet it's a term that people who are unfamiliar with the harassment happening towards trans mascs won't recognize.
and the nasty thing about it is that op was Intentionally trying to make a jab to hurt and belittle trans mascs while Framing it as a support post for trans and lesbian women. people who don't Already Know are going to interact with this post thinking that it's Only a positivity post.
thinking that it's just a silly little post punching up at cishet society.
when it's transphobia pointed at trans masc people.
I've said it before, but all exclusionism on this site is the same. it's the Exact Same tactics used over and over and over again, just with different targets.
and you saw Exactly this technique with ace exclusion All The Time. make a post that seems silly and lighthearted on the surface, that's Worded like it's referring to a privileged group, so that people pass it around without thinking about it.
but the Undercurrent, is a coded message to hurt a specific minority group, to hurt the target that's Familiar Enough with their own exclusion to read the intended insult.
and by Coding It, by making it a dog whistle instead of making it explicit, it Seems like more people support their position than they do (furthering the feeling of isolation in their victims). and works to help Normalize their talking points as they slowly become more explicit (intending to convert more people).
with asexuals it was "cishets trying to invade queer spaces," with trans mascs it's "men trying to invade trans/women's spaces."
it's intuitive that queer people punch up at cishets, it's Intuitive that trans people and women punch up at men, and That's The Point.
if the op of this post hadn't Explicitly referred to trans mascs in the notes ("transandrophobia truthers"), then I probably wouldn't have figured out what they were doing. I would've felt put off by it (as I was intended to, as it was created with the explicit intent to make people like me feel uncomfortable), but I wouldn't have had reason to look further into it. I probably would've just brushed it off and moved on.
unfortunately the only way around it is hypervigilence (learning the dog whistles, familiarizing yourself with how exclusionists talk about their victims), and hoping that the hand was tipped somewhere. hoping that the people who do this give away what their real Intent was.
and it's frustrating because the Vast Majority of the notes on the original post are just people having fun. who saw a post about trans butch lesbians and got excited and happy. and it's So Gross to see someone weaponize that.
it's unfair that people Need to be hypervigilent about posts About Them. it's one of the more upsetting aspects About exclusionism.
#discourse#exclusionism#transphobia#transandrophobia#queer unity#I do think the fact that op immediately locked down#means that I was right on the money#not that it was up for debate#because they said what they meant outright themselves for free
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grousing about ai art stuff
every time i open twitter (my mistake) there's a new thread on how to spot ai art or ai photos by finding all the mistakes in it, and like obviously this is useful and it's good to watch out because they kEEP SHOWING UP EVERYWHERE AHHH HELL WORLD HELL WORLD, but it's also a little depressing that we're training ourselves to nitpick all kinds of details within a piece of art.
like even before the artifically generated image boom randos on twitter would reply to fully finished illustrations with the most asinine unsolicited advice possible. art's gonna be flawed sometimes! i'll draw someone in a weird pose because of vibes! i'll wing a hand! i don't fucking know what a house actually looks like!!! like yes of course the way a human artist creates flawed art is different from the way an algorithm doesn't actually know what anything looks like because it has no mind. it doesn't know shit. so it's not that it's UNRELIABLE but it's like. it's like... i've been telling myself and others every time i'm struggling to make something look Just Right that actually nobody i going to be staring as hard at my art as i am while making it. if i don't point it out people aren't likely to notice unless they are going through it with a fine toothed comb BUT NOW WE ARE DOING THAT APPARENTLY. WHICH IS ANYONE'S PEROGATIVE AND FAIR ENOUGH! PEOPLE CAN LOOK AT MY ART HOWEVER THEY WANT IT'S FINE
but it's ALSO so depressing to consider having to analyse every single piece of art you come across like that my goddddddd i just wanna enjoy it!! i wanna enjoy art!!!! i mean the main reason i finally stopped going on twitter regularly was during the NFT boom and i got so tired of having to vet every single artist i came across to make sure i wasnt retweeting nft stuff. like that really ruined my previously enjoyable experience of LOOKING AT NICE ART ON MY FEED WITHOUT PSYCHOLOGICAL WARFARE.
god another thing that happened during the dark nft times was how certain art styles tended to be nfts. and i don't mean the ugly apes and stuff, like of course there's those, but there were a lot of artists who sold their souls to crypto and there was just a certain Vibe to a lot of those styles. like i got a sixth sense for it, i would see a piece of art by an unknown artists and when i checked - yep, that was a crypto guy now. and you know what!!!! i hated that!!!! i hate that it ruined entire art styles for me!! AND NOW ARTIFICIALLY GENERATED IMAGES ARE DOING THE SAME!!!!! like what tends to tip me off is less because i spotted some wonky hand or a weird flap but because the style is a popular one for the ai bros to imitate. you know what i mean right!!!!!! it's kind of how the ai photos look a bit too clean and crisp and smooth in an unsettling way. it just pings the brain a bit.
ULTIMATELY the absolute main method i have for filtering away ai images isn't so much looking for mistakes, but by checking sources. it's the same way i check that i'm not reblogging from reposting accounts Because That's A Thing I Care About Too - if there's no description or the description seems off and i don't recognise the OP, i check the original post/blog to see what's up. if the image gives me a weird vibe, i check where it comes from and who posted it. oftentimes the comments on posts with ai images will point it out - they're not always accurate and there's definitely been times where people are a little too trigger happy to accuse art of being AI... but it can be a good lead or confirm suspicions. on one hand, i don't want to do detective work while im having chill scrolling time, but on the other hand - i already had this habit for other reasons, so it's less disruptive to me than the alternative. it also helps that it's very rare for ai shit to turn up in my tumblr feed. i don't want to keep looking over my shoulder!!
(also for anyone who wants a little bit of optimism in the middle of all this, here's an episode of Better Offline podcast that outlines how it's very unlikely for generative ai to actually get much better. here's the part two also.)
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The OP has turned off reblogs at the time I'm posting this, so it seemed wise to move this discussion about the authenticity of Hannibal's love for Will over here. I want to give it its due, and the open invitation to discuss was out, so here is some context and my response.
The original ask went:
Hi! I've wanted to write about this for a long time, and your blog seems like a safe space. Let me give you a heads up—I am not against shipping at all. I am aware of the antis in your ask box, but I promise I am not affiliated with them. This is just a friendly direction. So, if you are truly open to discussion, I want you to view Hannibal as a selfish, manipulative, and extremely violent person. Notice how he is power-hungry and wanted to keep Will in his chokehold, never viewing them as equals. Hannibal created this delusional image of Will in his mind and inserted himself into Will's delusional world. Look at his actions again in season 3. Can you point out one scene where you can write, "Oh yes, Hannibal loves Will"? The problem with the antis is that they are questioning Will's feelings for Hannibal when they should question Hannibal's feelings for Will. Hannibal only liked Will when Will behaved like Hannibal—notice that in season 2. Does it change your view on them now?
OP didn't have anything to say to this, and my response was critical of anon's choice to bring this to OP's inbox, but the relevant part of what I said to the current discussion included the following:
...the basic rule [of writing discourse] is--if you're the one to posit the claim, then it is your job to support it.... You can't possibly do the leg work needed here to give your side its due. This is such a hefty claim that you've posed--that Hannibal's worst personality defects negate any authenticity/sincerity in his emotional response to Will--that the support it needs is probably running in the 6k words range. Or more.
To which @melancholymournia responded:
Let's start a discussion then --
I believe Anon has a valid perspective. They were seeking opinions and I believe it's within their right to do so. Anon's main argument is that Crimson should view Hannibal as an antagonist, as he embodies a sinister role in the narrative. Hannibal's love for Will is portrayed as selfish, driven by desperation for understanding. Anon points out Hannibal's creation of a false image of Will in his mind, particularly evident in Season 1's exploitative and abusive behavior. Anon contends that Hannibal only appreciates Will when he mirrors Hannibal's actions,evident in s2 and Will's attachment stems from trauma and a sense of justice. Will attempted to kill Hannibal numerous times and even succeeded, but Hannibal's plot armor consistently saved him. Despite this, according to Bryan, it's "Will Graham's story," implying that Hannibal's eventual demise was always a possibility. Hannibal maintained manipulation over Will even in Season 3, from start to finish. People's justification of the Dolce scene and romanticizing the gallery scene surprises me, considering both instances involved plans for mutual harm. Despite Will expressing fatigue with the chase, questions about why he fell for Hannibal linger. After discussions, it became clear to me that his attachment wasn't love but a trauma response to his abuser. In Season 3, even when Will urged Hannibal to leave, Hannibal surrendered, manipulating the situation rather than acting out of genuine love. Hannibal caged himself to ensnare Will, who later moved on with a family, but the fandom struggled to accept it, mirroring Will's Stockholm syndrome-like attachment to Hannibal. Hannibal continued harming Will, sending the Dragon to kill Will's family to manipulate him into a meeting. Ultimately, Will chose death to escape both Hannibal and himself, feeling a resemblance to Hannibal in his mind. Throughout the seasons, Hannibal's actions show a lack of genuine love, portraying him as a greedy figure taking relentlessly from Will and ultimately causing his destruction.
I think this is a teachable moment about meta and what it needs to be successful. So this is my response--partially aimed at the content of what you've said here, and partially aimed at talking about meta itself and what it needs and how to do it justice.
I think when we're thinking about writing meta that is successful, we need to be thinking about what it is we're trying to achieve. Personally, I ascribe to the belief that "the aim of argument, or of discussion, should be progress, not victory." This doesn't mean I or anyone else won't fall victim to being petty once in a while--we're all human here, I think--but that if we're doing our jobs the best we could be doing them, then we should be focused on getting to a shared deeper understanding of the text, rather than on trying to "win." Above that, I think our fandom has lost a sense of this in its discourse in the past couple months.
In pursuit of that, I don't think how you opened, with defense of anon, was wise. This argument, if it needs to be made, needs to be made for the perusal of the fandom, not specifically for one person. Crimson neither needed nor wanted to be a target. "They were seeking opinions" and having a "main argument is that Crimson should view Hannibal as [anything]" are essentially exclusive statements. Anon was not trying to get Crimson's opinion: they were trying to sway it. You stepping in to defend anon when more people than just myself have recognized the troll-y or even malicious aspects of the ask puts your argument in a bad light, which honestly doesn't serve you well. If your primary purpose is to make the argument (and actually sway opinions yourself) rather than to defend anon (create teams/advance fandom drama/"win"), then it would be better delivered if you maintained an air of neutrality by at minimum, avoiding commentary on anon themself.
That could be done by starting your own post and tagging the interested parties and just focusing on the topic at hand and ignoring anon. Or this could be done in your response by saying something along the lines of just "This is an interesting idea that I haven't seen discussed enough. I think..." and then proceed to say what you think. That then shifts the conversation to the claims being made rather than the people who make them, and how they made them. (Note my primary objection to the original ask is exactly about anon's behavior and choices rather than to the points themselves.)
So setting the issue of anon's choices aside, we next need to look at who the audience is (the broader fandom) and how they can be swayed. Because isn't that the goal, here, ultimately? It sounds like what you and your friends want is to shift general fandom attitude away from the merry-murder-husbands interpretation and into something more cognizant of the fucked up nature of the show.
And this is not in and of itself a bad goal overall, depending on how far you take it. But whether you succeed in this goal or just end up driving people out of the fandom because of the drama or because they become disillusioned with the ship itself is a very fine line to walk, and I'm not sure the people who have been walking it lately realize just how delicately they need to step (not necessarily you specifically--I don't remember seeing your name around before this tbh). It's not progress unless people come around to your way of thinking without becoming fed up and hurt and leaving.
(Obligatory reminder to my own follower base here: I don't condone people going around to anyone's inbox or comments specifically to harass them, regardless of what their opinions are. I am fully of the opinion that we can all play in the same sandbox together without throwing sand in each other's eyes, even if we think the other sand castles are ugly.)
One troubling fact of the whole-fandom-as-audience as it exists currently is that people have differing notions about what the fandom believes on the whole. To sum up, there seems to be three camps: "merry-murder-husbands," "Hannigram-BAD," and "Wtf happened to my peaceful fandom."
If you haven't deduced it already, I belong to the third group.
Merry-murder-husbands and Hannigram-BAD both seem to largely think that everyone who doesn't belong to their own group belongs to the opposing group. But I don't think that's a useful place to write meta from. Tonally, it's going to be off-putting from the very start to anyone who isn't in your own camp, even if their camp is just "Wtf." Getting your point across is also going to be extra difficult if people are from the opposing group--they're going to feel attacked or at the very least, condescended to.
For starters, your (and anon's) talking points aren't going to be focused on what matters to the Wtf crowd. Where this comes up in this particular discussion is with these points here:
Hannibal as a selfish, manipulative, and extremely violent person.
He is power-hungry and wanted to keep Will in his chokehold.
Hannibal as an antagonist, as he embodies a sinister role in the narrative.
Hannibal's love for Will is portrayed as selfish, driven by desperation for understanding.
Hannibal maintained manipulation over Will even in Season 3, from start to finish.
People's justification of the Dolce scene and romanticizing the gallery scene surprises me, considering both instances involved plans for mutual harm.
Hannibal continued harming Will, sending the Dragon to kill Will's family to manipulate him into a meeting.
Hannibal caged himself to ensnare Will.
To the Wtf crowd, this is sort of like arguing that water is wet. Is Hannibal, the biggest pile of dicks that ever existed, actually a big pile of dicks? Well, iunno...you tell me? Nobody from this crowd is arguing that Hannibal isn't a big pile of dicks. So this is basically spinning your wheels.
As to the merry-murder-husbands crowd, this is all justified because deep down, Will is just as big a pile of dicks as Hannibal, and Hannibal being a big pile of dicks to Will just uncovers Will's true dick pile qualities so they can go off and live as merry-piles-o'-dicks together. Now, personally, I think this particular response is full of circular logic and just plain wrong, but the point here is that you're never going to win against it by writing points that play into it. This crowd will move the goalposts on this discussion to a discussion about Will's character, and then you'll be dealing with that instead of the points you want to be making about Hannibal.
This also sets aside that some of these points could be argued against on their own specific merits. Does Hannibal really want to keep Will in his chokehold, or does the real excitement for Hannibal come when Will turns the tables on him? That's a whole meta post by itself, frankly, and more than we can discuss here feasibly. But it does highlight another problem with these points: some of them are interpretations and conclusions in and of themselves, not actual points of evidence.
There's an additional problem in the overall argument with multiple points being about Will rather than Hannibal:
Ultimately, Will chose death to escape both Hannibal and himself, feeling a resemblance to Hannibal in his mind.
Despite Will expressing fatigue with the chase, questions about why he fell for Hannibal linger. After discussions, it became clear to me that his attachment wasn't love but a trauma response to his abuser.
Will's attachment stems from trauma and a sense of justice. Will attempted to kill Hannibal numerous times and even succeeded, but Hannibal's plot armor consistently saved him.
Will…later moved on with a family, but the fandom struggled to accept it, mirroring Will's Stockholm syndrome-like attachment to Hannibal.
Despite this, according to Bryan, it's "Will Graham's story," implying that Hannibal's eventual demise was always a possibility.
The original anon defined this problem as "The problem with the antis is that they are questioning Will's feelings for Hannibal when they should question Hannibal's feelings for Will," but these all shift the discussion back onto Will, into places that serve your opposition rather than serving you. So even if you "won" this part of the argument--which is easier said than done--you still wouldn't have proven your point about Hannibal, you will have just made observations about Will.
Again, this is all beside the point for the Wtf crowd, and playing into the hands of the merry-murder-husbanders.
So what do we have left? These are the rest of the statements:
Hannibal surrendered, manipulating the situation rather than acting out of genuine love.
Hannibal's actions show a lack of genuine love, portraying him as a greedy figure taking relentlessly from Will and ultimately causing his destruction.
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Hannibal created this delusional image of Will in his mind and inserted himself into Will's delusional world.
Hannibal only liked Will when Will behaved like Hannibal—notice that in season 2.
Anon points out Hannibal's creation of a false image of Will in his mind, particularly evident in Season 1's exploitative and abusive behavior. Anon contends that Hannibal only appreciates Will when he mirrors Hannibal's actions,evident in s2.
I've grouped them like this because they are each united by theme: one, that, as I put it in my original reblog, Hannibal's worst personality defects (his selfishness, manipulation, and sadism) negate any authenticity/sincerity in his emotional response to Will; and two, that Hannibal's image of Will in his mind is incorrect enough that it means that he's fallen in love with his idea of Will, rather than with the man himself.
I think we can all see that the second of these--although perhaps the more accurate one--is going to be plagued by the moving goalposts I mentioned above. In order to prove it, you've got to prove that Will isn't the person Hannibal perceives him to be. That might be doable with the Wtf crowd (probably why I see it as a more accurate concept, since I'm in this crowd), but it's going to be MONUMENTAL to try to get the merry-murder-husbands to see it this way. If you're willing to fight those off, well, you might make some headway with people who are more open-minded.
But it's going to be complicated by the fact that you're going to have to also prove the first claim in order to make the second stick, because the problems with the first one will set up problems with the second. And that first claim is going to be real difficult to prove.
Here's why: the basic presumption of the first claim--Hannibal's worst personality defects (his selfishness, manipulation, and sadism) negate any authenticity/sincerity in his emotional response to Will--is that it defines love in the kind of platitudes people use when they're teaching their children not to allow others to mistreat them. It's syllogistic.
A. Hannibal is greedy and manipulative and destructive with Will.
B. Love is not greedy, not manipulative, and not destructive.
C. Therefore Hannibal's feelings for Will are not love.
But we all know the problem with a syllogism: if either of the premises are false, the conclusion is also false.
In real life, premise in B. may or may not be a useful way to look at love, but that's beside the point here. The question is, Is the premise in B. the way the show Hannibal presents and defines love?
Fortunately for us, the show has given us two explicit statements on love and what it is and what it means, one in "Shiizakana" and one in "Secondo."
In "Secondo," the conversation is between Hannibal and Bedelia:
B: What your sister made you feel was beyond your conscious ability to control or predict. H: Or negotiate. B: I would suggest what Will Graham makes you feel is not dissimilar. A force of mind and circumstance. H: Love. He pays you a visit or he doesn't.
This view of love is that it is outside of the control of the one who experiences it. In order to support that Hannibal does experience this kind of love when it comes to Will Graham, then all you have to prove is that he had super strong feelings toward Will that caused him to be out of control, to badly predict his own behavior, and that he did stupid shit rather than negotiate his choices well. I think...well, these are all fairly easy to prove. Hannibal set his whole neatly curated world on fire for Will, all the while thinking he was in control when he was totally out of control. This would be the "Did you think you could change me, the way I changed you?" problem. Up until the moment that Will points out that he already did change Hannibal, Hannibal really thinks he's negotiating this force of mind and circumstance just fine. Meanwhile, he makes himself sad by getting Will incarcerated and mad at him, he plays his get-out-of-jail-free card with Miriam Lass, and then this loses him his very favorite murder identity of the Chesapeake Ripper, and eventually his home, practice, ability to live under his own identity and ultimately his freedom. The fact that he tries to control something that is very much out of his control is evidence for, not evidence against, defining his actions as motivated by love. At least by this definition.
The other definition presented in "Shiizakana" is probably the more damning one:
H (in Will's mind): No one can be fully aware of another human being unless we love them. By that love we see potential in our beloved. Through that love, we allow our beloved to see their potential. Expressing that love, our beloved's potential comes true.
If we stop after the first statement ("No one can be fully aware of another human being unless we love them") then it might seem like we have something workable with regards to the idea that Hannibal is in love with an idea of Will rather than the man himself. By this reasoning, because he's focused on his image of Will--his imago--then his love is less than fully aware of who Will really is. So maybe it's not really love.
But unfortunately that isn't the end of the statement. Seeing that person's potential (Hannibal's idea of Will) is part of being fully aware of them, by this definition. Will then coming to see that same potential in himself--the cause of him throwing them both off the cliff instead of just Hannibal--happens through Hannibal's love for him. And if Will does go full dark murder husband (the jury's still out on this, obviously, and will probably be out forever), then that would be because Hannibal expressed his love, in all those selfish and destructive and manipulative ways. Even if Will doesn't go full dark, where he has expressed his darkness--with Chiyoh and her prisoner, with touching Frederick Chilton's shoulder, with attempting to kill Hannibal himself, with his deceptions and manipulations and obvious enjoyment of terrorizing Freddie Lounds, etc, etc, whatever--is still that potential coming true.
This is going to be a really difficult point to argue past, especially because the show is largely concerned with transformation as an expression of love, all the way back to Garrett Jacob Hobbs and most of the murders of the first season. It may not be the way one should view love in the real world, but it's the way love is defined in the murderworld of Hannibal.
And that even leaves aside numerous other points, including but not limited to:
violence as an expression of love and/or sex
Bedelia--who herself disagrees with Hannibal's assessment of Will's character--nonetheless defining Hannibal's feelings as "in love"
the imago as an image of a loved one carried by the unconscious during a person's entire life, which is still defined as love even though it idealizes that person
the fact that Will planted Hannibal's imago himself
So if this is something that you really want to pursue, all this is what you're up against. It's a tall order, and that's probably why no one has really broached the issue much in the past except as a sort of moral judgment against shippers.
The limits of what I've laid out here include the interpretation of the cliffening being Will's rejection of going full dark. That's got some room to move, but it's problematic because if he fully rejected the concept of that being his potential, then he doesn't actually need to throw himself off the cliff, and additionally, it's undermined by the Bedelia leg-eating scene which suggests Will's involvement. Ultimately, it's also fully speculative--you only have those two scenes to work with, and everything else that falls under the general umbrella of speculations about S4 and beyond are just that--speculations. Not evidence.
There's probably an argument somewhere that the show draws a distinction between wholesome love (like Jack and Bella) and Hannibal's kind of love, but I don't know if that distinction is strong enough that Hannibal's love is not love at all, in the show's terms. Especially because Jack and Bella's love is partially defined through how her coping with death changes them both. But you still have the problem of it being about different types of love, not one thing being called love and another thing not. Overall, this would be hard to find all the pieces of and would require a lot of studying the stories about love that are outside of Hannibal and Will, and this would be challenging even to me, but it might be worth a look if someone wants to do that massive amount of homework.
I guess that's kind of where all this ultimately leads me, and back to the original point I made about why this kind of discussion doesn't belong in any one person's inbox. These are big questions: they can't be fully argued in a couple paragraphs. At least not well. The fandom is sorely missing meta writers at the moment who are willing to take the trouble to do the full amount of homework and effort that is required to really say something insightful. Mostly it just seems like people want to toss off a couple paragraphs and "win."
That's always been a problem with meta in fandom. It isn't a problem we're newly inventing. Everyone has opinions, regardless of the amount of thought they've put into them--but for the Hannibal fandom specifically there used to be more people who were willing to really dedicate themselves to getting to the bottom of things, to making progress understanding the show be the purpose of discussion and analysis, rather than achieving victory over a perceived group of people who are understanding the show "wrong." Right now there's...maybe one?
To be clear, I don't count myself as in that group of one person who is willing to work that hard. At least not for the most part. There's nothing wrong with opting out of that effort.
But there is something wrong with pursuing that "win," if it comes at the expense of people's peace of mind, the fandom family's unity, and deeper understanding of the show.
So if you want to have these discussions, please have them, but have them at the level that they deserve to be had. If there has to be a call to action at the end of the post, I suppose I'm asking people to do the homework--to watch the show ten more times, start to finish, to have the episodes ready to go at a moment's notice during a discussion, research existentialism and Christianity and Revelations and the original books and films and what Bryan Fuller and the cast have said and what the other meta writers said over the past eleven years.
But at the very least, let's stop letting our annoyance with each other dictate our understandings of the show itself. Yes, some interpretations and some people can be super annoying (believe me, I've been there!), but that has no place in generating bias over what the show itself has to say.
#hannibal meta#hannibal#bear replies#hannibal lecter#hannigram#will graham#hannibal fandom meta#what is love#oh baby don't hurt me#don't hurt me#no more
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okay, i've done a little testing about tumblr communities and here's somethings ive learned
its main accounts only, you can only send an invite to someone's main and they can only join through their main and the invite is sent through an automated tumblr bot with the @ of the person who sent you the invite (comes from their main account)
if you have a sideblog sometimes when trying to create a post from within the community, it will lock you into your sideblog and you will not be able to change to your main within the post maker. which then causes the post to be posted publicly to your sideblog
to fix the above situation, go to the home dashboard and create a post like normal, but select your main account and then select whichever community you want to post in
i haven't tested this next point much so i don't have a lot of info for it, but i did get a notification under my main account's activity that someone had replied to a post (which i had not created) with the category of "x commented on [community]" with a preview of the comment and a preview of the original post
the communities tab updates like the home tab updates (the number that displays the amount of new posts)
tags don't serve a purpose within the community (at least not in terms of search-ablity or organization inside the community) and tags link to the public use of that tag
you can react to posts with multiple reactions and can leave comments under posts, but can't reblog them, additionally reactions don't appear in the activity feed like comments do
polls have their own tab and there is a "popular" tag which at this time (for my community at least) is not running
you can reblog posts from outside the community and from what i can tell, the op cannot see that it was reblogged into a community nor any community comments/reactions, however they will see any replies like normal. reblogs are turned off from within the community and you have to navigate to a non-community version of that post in order to reblog or like it
#tumblr community#tumblr communities#tumblr#tumblr information#communities#blazerambles#this has been very fun to figure out
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since I've noticed a few people -both returning, long term, and new users- reblogging tumblr-know-how posts going 'ah, I didn't know that, thank you'- here's a gentle reminder from a long time tumblr user
remember to flick off the op out settings on each of your blogs that allows for ai training off your blog's content
this allows tumblr to train ai off both your original and reblogged posts. so both art/writing/anything you post and the content of whatever you reblog.
Instructions for finding this setting are below the cut.
On PC (via web browser), this setting can be found by
1) clicking on 'Settings' on the left hand side and then
2) clicking on each individual blog's name. Yes, it has to be turned off for all of them individually.
And yes, after clicking on each blog's name you'll have to click on 'Settings' again to re-access the list.
On Mobile (via web browser) you have to
1) open the side menu available by the button on the top left of your screen then
2) click the down arrow next to 'Account' and your list of blogs will appear under the 'Likes'/'Following'/'Log Out' options. If it isn't already open
3) open a blog's options menu by clicking the down arrow next to their name. Then
4) click on blog settings and scroll all the way to the bottom. Above the options 'Blocked Tumblrs'/'Export'/'Delete Blog' you will find the slider you have to turn off.
Again, you will have to do this for each blog again starting from step one.
Again, this protects both your original content and the content of the creators you love and reblog. It is an op-out function which means that when you create a blog, it is automatically set to train AI off your blog.
This is a relatively new feature for returning bloggers- as in it was added in the last year or so- but not new-new by any means. It has not been changed since implementation as far as I know.
(Also I don't use the mobile app so I couldn't tell you if that layout is different but alskjklgf if it is, someone let me know and I'll get my friend who uses it to walk me through how she finds it and add it on here.)
Thank you for your time and attention! Happy blogging! (´▽`ʃ♡ƪ)
#personal#tumblr#tumblr how#tumblr know how#idk what to tag this just#if you found this useful/would have found this useful/have people you know are following you who may not know this#pls reblog and spread awareness#there was a lot of awareness spreading at the time#but i've seen a couple of new/returning waves since#and not too much awareness on This Particular Setting on tumblr so -_o_-#lil refresher course ig#ill schedule this a few times too#over the next few days at like#6 hour intervals or smth idk#ill figure it out
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(Long post ahead, reposting a reblog I made and ended up deleting because OP was an anti. Placing a "keep reading" after the repost before getting into new info. Post is screenshot heavy, and such not compatible with screen readers. I do not have energy to transcribe alt text right now.)
So anyways, there are antis in the Pico's School fandom.
I love the ship picandra (Pico x Cassandra), it's super hot, but apparently there are antis shaming it. (What don't antis shame?)
I'm not sharing OP's tags this time so it isn't as easy to find them. But the jist is that Pico isn't some pure hero, he's an anti hero. And it isn't canon that Pico has any trauma because of Cassandra. They express frustration with antis trying to demonize people who enjoy hero x villain ships.
This was my response before I deleted my post:
I'd also like to add that antis, as well as this post, are focusing on whether or not this ship is problematic due to Pico being a victim being a victim of Cassandra attacking the school. Not once does anyone mention the fact that the characters are 10 years old in their source material and that "it would be disgusting to ship 10 year olds and imagine children dating and kissing when 10 year olds would be doing nothing more than holding hands." I bring this up because of how OP then went and behaved in the comments of their post. Throwing a huge fit when a proshipper tried to inform them of what proship means.
Blue is OP, light blue is whenever they replied directly to the proshipper they were arguing against (not me), and purplish white are buzzwords creating very serious accusations against proshippers.
Any further comments from OP on their post were missing too much context due to the other side of the conversation being deleted. And such won't be commented on.
It's horribly ironic that they went on about pedophilia and their hatred for underage ships, when this post originated from a ship consisting of two 10 year olds. And on top of that, if their argument on proshipping being bad is because the dynamics of problematic ships are harmful and affect reality, then sorry to say, in my opinion as a proshipper is that Picandra is a comship. Even if Pico wasn't traumatized by Cassandra's attack on the school, she still caused irreversible damage to his life. She killed all his classmates and teacher. She is an alien who used emotionally insecure goth kids to kill humanity with no regard to the lives of her allies. She canonically couldn't give a shit about Pico, let alone be interested in him. In turn, after the attack, Pico had become a serial killer hitman that is very aggressive and closed off emotionally. If these two were to engage in a relationship, it would be toxic and abusive as all hell on both ends. But I guess that's fine because it doesn't disgust you personally. So it can't possibly be morally corrupt or questionable.
I do not plan on making a habit out of indirectly replying to anti bullshit on this level. I've already made sure OP is blocked and thus unable to see this post. The existence of my rebuttal points are more for the sake of getting my own frustrations out, practice making points against a real example rather than a hypothetical strawman, as well as providing a source of positivity for other proshippers who have dealt with this or other antis like the one featured above.
If you manage to find OP, do not harass them, send them hate, or even send 'helpful information'. A person like this is not in the right mindset to learn, and such trying to rebut them any further will only cause unnecessary stress and may cause them to root themselves more into the anti mindset.
#proship#ship discourse#antis being antis#tw antiship#anti mention#proship positivity#anti anti#grotesque misuse of serious accusations#american feelings yakuza#probably not american so more like just feelings yakuza#anti purity culture#anti censorship#anti harassment#pico pico's school#cassandra pico's school#pico's school#picandra
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Welp, since the OP turned off reblogs on the original post:
My original reblog:
Okay, I know RTD has fucked all of this up by using the words "male-presenting" in this way, but male-presenting is NOT a synonym for "looks like a man" or "wear's men's clothing".
Saying that butches could be considered male-presenting is just. flat out wrong. That is not what these terms mean.
You can IDENTIFY yourself as male-presenting or female-presenting. You cannot assign those terms to anyone else, which is one of the major things RTD did wring with this scene!
No one asked the Doctor how hea identifies, everyone just went "well you're played by David Tennant now so you look like a man so that means you're purposefully presenting yourself to the world as male" and that's not how this works! At all!
Trans women not being out or able to socially transition doesn't mean they're male-presenting.
"male-presenting" is not a synonym for "looks like a man" or "assigned male at birth" or "wears mens clothes".
It is not something you get to assign other people, it is strictly a self-identification term, saying that you are choosing to present yourself as male, or masculine, or whatever descriptor is being used.
And I'm not even going to bother getting into the whole "the Doctor was a woman (because Jodie Whittaker had the role) five minutes ago" because again, that's literally not how gender works. Looking like a woman because a woman is playing the character does not equal "the character is a woman now" when it's just been established in this episode that the Doctor is nonbinary.
You can, and should, point out the biological and gender essentialism in this scene. But you shouldn't be ignoring the fact that the Doctor is being misgendered by being assigned male-presenting by people who have not asked, and are literally just deciding that for themselves because they think the Doctor looks like a man.
Do not use "x-presenting" language for other people --including fictional characters, which as we can all see from the fallout from this scene makes people think they can do this to real people-- unless it's something that person self-identifies as.
Calling anyone "male-presenting" or "masculine-presenting" or "female-presenting" or "feminine-presenting" without them first telling you that's how they identify is literally just misgendering people but pretending to be progressive about it.
Which is the most fucking damaging impact of this scene. And I'm getting really tired of having to explain this over and over again when people have been talking about why these terms are not okay to assign to other people for years now. Russel T Davies just came along and fucked it all up by making people think this kind of misgendering is okay when it's not even remotely.
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@daily-sloop-john-b:
Okay, I'm —ing confused.
@rjalkers-polls can you please send me where you're pulling the "presenting" definition from?
And what's the word(s) for referring to that outside shell to which onlookers ascribe a gender?
No animosity meant at all; you seem to have a very specific idea of it's usage, and I'm curious what community it comes from.
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Me:
this isn't a definition you're going to find in any dictionary, because it's not an "official" thing in any way, it's what many trans and nonbinary people have been talking about over the years.
I can link some posts of people talking about it if that'll help.
in no particular order:
4 days ago
September 2023
June 2019
2 days ago
November 2021
December 2021
And there's a whole lot more on my blog but tumblr doesn't want to let me find them at the moment, mostly because I didn't think to create a tag specifically for it.
Try searching any of the variations on tumblr or google.
Before November 25th 2023 you'll find a mix of people using them as self-descriptors, people talking about how it's misgendering to be called it without permission, and a few people assigning them to other people thinking it's okay.
And now after November 25th 2023 you'll see a massive surge in people throwing these terms around willy-nilly in the most absurd and bigoted ways.
The proper way to describe people without assuming and assigning gender to them is to describe them in factual statements. Are they tall? Short? Fat? Thin? Long hair? Short hair? Big chest? medium chest? Flat chest? Light skin? Dark skin? Round face? Angular face? Eye color, ect.
And if you know someone's gender, you can call them by that. A man, a woman, a nonbinary person, an enby, ect. At no point is it necessary or okay to describe them as "x-presenting", because as I say above, that's taking your internal bias and saying it's something they're doing on purpose.
If someone calls me female-presenting because they think I look like a woman, that's misgendering. I'm not presenting myself as female, I'm literally just existing in a body that happens to have boobs, through no fault or choice of my own.
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@walks-the-ages:
Here's a post I reblogged nine years ago that captures the essence of why using “x-presenting” language is misgendering; you’ll notice that the post makes no mention of x-presenting language, because that only really started popping up in the last…. hmm, maybe three or four years? It became a popular way to describe someone whose gender you didn’t know, but was thankfully shot down pretty quick when trans and nonbinary people pointed out this is just a new way of misgendering someone but trying to sound progressive, by looking at someone’s appearance and assuming that what you think they look like (aka, like a man, or like a woman, or androgynous) “must be!” what gender they are.
[ID: a text post by user Viciere, posted October 31st 2014, that reads: “if somebody wears a dress and copious amounts of makeup and has ass-length pink hair and they say they are a boy you call them a boy gender stereotypes are not an excuse for misgendering someone it doesnt matter what gender you think they “look” like. respect the gender they ARE.” End ID]
If you look at the tags and replies of many of the posts made about the “male presenting” line in the Star Beast, you will find countless, countless trans, nonbinary, and even cis people expressing how they have personally been misgendered by people referring to them as ‘x-presenting’ based purely on their clothes or their physical appearance, which is especially hurtful to trans and nonbinary people who already suffer from negative body image and body dysphoria, especially if they can’t afford or physically cannot safely get top or bottom surgery, wear a packer, or padded bra, or even safely wear a binder.
TL;DR: “X-presenting” language should only be used as a self-identifier, or exclusively for those who have given you express permission to refer to them as such. Using “x-presenting” language for someone you don’t know is the same as misgendering– if you don’t know someone’s gender, just ask :)
#long post#replies#misgendering#exorsexism#transmisia#DW spoilers#Doctor Who spoilers#RTD2spoilers#The Star Beast spoilers#RTD2#RTDWHO2#Rjalker watches Doctor Who#Doctor Who: The Star Beast#biological essentialism#gender essentialism#Doctor Who transmisia#Doctor Who exorsexism#Doctor Who bigotry#Doctor Who biological essentialism#Doctor Who biological essentialism 2: Electric Boogaloo#RTD transmisia#Russel T Davies transmisia#RTD exorsexism#Russel T Davies exorsexism#Doctor Who fandom bigotry#Doctor Who fandom transmisia#Doctor Who fandom exorsexism#Doctor Who fandom neopronomisia#dw fandom bigotry#dw fandom transmisia
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(I accessed this on 12/8, so the # of total posts is a bit off by now, but everything else should be accurate)
I posted 32 times in 2022
That's 2 more posts than 2021!
31 posts created (97%)
1 post reblogged (3%)
Blogs I reblogged the most:
@116t98
I tagged 32 of my posts in 2022
#art - 32 posts
#my art - 32 posts
#please don't repost - 31 posts
#reblogs are greatly appreciated!! - 31 posts
#digital art - 31 posts
#please don't steal - 31 posts
#artists on tumblr - 27 posts
#fashion - 16 posts
#digital illustration - 14 posts
#meet the kents - 13 posts
Longest Tag: 33 characters
#reblogs are greatly appreciated!!
My Top Posts in 2022:
#5
Conner is dressed up like the Robinson sibling that flies, but Kara is the one who can actually fly between the two of them. Ironic, isn’t it?
You guys get a 2-for-1 deal today! I’d normally release these character posts as I go (which is why they end up being shared one-at-a-time), but I had both Kara and Conner ready to go, so why not upload both at the same time?
Clark & Lois|Jon|Conner|Kara|Ma & Pa|John & Lana|Karen|Bizarro & Pup Pup|Krypto|Kelex
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#3
I’ve had the biggest urge to draw this scene with Radioheads ever since I saw this post by @honeypixx over a month ago
(Btw, this isn’t the scene OP described, but the moment during the “Crazier Than You” number when Lucas convinces Wednesday to blindly shoot an apple off his head; I couldn’t figure out how to draw “One Normal Night” so I went with this instead)
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Edit: I had to fix the IG link bc something went wrong
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Happy Halloween, from their family to yours! 🎃🚀
As promised, here’s the finished version of my Meet the Kents project! I actually came up with this idea along with last year’s WFV project, but I didn’t have time to make them both simultaneously. Fortunately, I finally managed to complete this piece, and I’m very happy with how it turned out! I hope you guys like it, too, and I hope that everyone who celebrates Halloween (and those who don’t) has a good day!
Please don’t steal/repost this anywhere!
(Here are the solo shots of the superfamily!)
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My #1 post of 2022
What doesn’t kill you, will make you stronger…
Okay, so here’s the context behind this piece: this whole thing began when I came across Matt Ryan Tobin’s alternative poster for the 1985 horror movie “Silver Bullet”, which (surprise, surprise) is about a werewolf killing a bunch of people
I thought this poster was so cool (much better than the actual poster, imo), and bc I was suffering from The Quarry brainrot for a couple of weeks at that point, I thought “hey, this would be pretty cool if it was The Quarry themed”
And so, I sat down and began drawing immediately. Nearly a month later, this project could finally be deemed finished! I couldn’t share this on August 22nd like I originally planned, so I figured the next best time would be on Halloween
I had a lot of fun recreating this awesome movie poster, and I hope you enjoy this piece as much as I do!
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Edit: I had to fix the IG link bc something went wrong
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hey, I don't mean to be rude by pointing this out at all, but I wanted to say that I do think you are responding in a very combative way to OP of the gay supernatural post. I think what you brought up is simply a different headcanon than they have, and that's why they asked you, neutrally, to make your own post. they probably don't want to get notifications for your different headcanon on a post they created. it isn't something they can necessarily control, but isn't so unreasonable or uncommon that they want to avoid it. it doesn't seem like a big deal to ask you to make their own post where you could just reference what they said when you discuss your own thing and spare them the notes on their post. you're acting like they were originally mad at you or that they have some biases against aro/ace identities and for what it's worth I just don't think that's true about OP.
The thing is, 'make your own post' culture is inherently not neutral.
When you post something on Tumblr--or Facebook, or Twitter, or Myspace, or pick your site--you are legally considered to have done the same thing as if you published it in the New York Times. It can be criminal evidence. It can be used against you at a job if your name is attached.
And, the important part: Other people get to reply to it.
If you only want some kinds of replies, you can ask nicely in the post for that (although no one is obliged to listen to you). You can turn off reblogs altogether. But that's it.
Telling people to 'make your own post' is saying that you can make your own rules about how someone interacts with a post, and other people have to obey you. No, they don't. Demanding other people treat you as some kind of rule-maker is ridiculous; you have no right to demand other people go beyond basic civility for you.
Consider the post I made. It didn't even disagree with OP; I was discussing extra parts of the interpretation, and those parts do actually need consideration in gay-specific headcanons! Because OP wasn't wrong about subtext often involving aromantic and asexual implications, so yeah, that is part of the conversation. It's not 'my headcanon'--OP flat-out said that Dean slept with women but never wanted romance, and Castiel never had either. That's aro\ace TEXT. That's been there since E1. If you're not discussing that, you're no longer discussing SPN, you're talking about another show.
OP didn't say that they didn't want to talk about canon, though. OP didn't say that there were rules. And for that matter--what rule did I break? You're generous in saying they only wanted discussions about gay people...but let's consider this reblog claiming that, apparently, to say that me pointing out asexual text--CANON TEXT, mind you, everything I quoted IS LITERALLY IN THE SHOW--is homophobic.
I can't help but note that this didn't break OP's rules.
There was nothing 'neutral' about what OP said. And there's a hell of a lot of aphobia implied in OP deciding my post, specifically, breaks their rules. Yeah, I'm being snarky--but why wouldn't I be? OP demands I follow rules that never were stated, and then complains when I don't, and this rule seems to mysteriously only apply to a discussion of aro\aceness.
Tl;dr: This is the reblog site. If you're complaining that someone's reblogging you, that's rude, and kind of stupid--this is the REBLOGGING site, not the 'we all post in silence and never interact' site. OP did that with some pretty damn aphobic implications. Yeah, I get to be snarky when someone's rude.
#answered asks#disk horse again#yeah it's actually rude to start a conversation and complain someone takes you up on it#kind of a thing
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The Persona Series and the Generational Experience
Besides thinking about the ages of the protagonists recently, I had been greatly intrigued in the way that each persona game reflects the generation that would have come to the age that the main characters would have been as well as the social climate and environment that would have been present at the time.
The characters of the game would have grown up in a completely different age and environment from the previous generation, being Gen X in a world dominated by the post-war Baby Boomers, which causes them to struggle with what is expected of them and what they want to be. If not this, the characters are already labeled as outcasts due to their own individuality or personal histories they can't change. Yukino as a former delinquent and sapphic woman comes to mind and Reiji being a bastard and a delinquent himself too.
NOTE FROM OP AS OF 04/08/2024:
I feel like this wasn't the best worded post and I would rather rewrite a lot of this. I wrote this when I was fresh off of a serious personal event that led me to think a lot about Persona 1 considering I related heavily with Maki's experiences during the game. It sounds unrelated but uh, let's just say that's also the reason why the wording and research here is rather flimsy since I wasn't really in the most lucid or stable condition at the time. I don't think this post is that bad but I think some points aren't the best either and would rather not this post circulate but I don't really want to private it or to turn off reblogs so I'm just putting this note at the beginning. I'm going to try to read up more stuff and then I'll make a post about each game some other time. Sorry for the random note here but yeah. Feel free to read and still reblog the post though even if I don't really think it's my best worded one as of now.
Original Post:
Persona 1 (1996), besides being a game about how society leaves behind the disabled (Maki hating the world due to her inability to participate as a regular person in society due to her poor health), is primarily a story about the dangers of corporatization which was extremely relevant in Japan during the 90s especially coming from the economic boom of the 80s. The culture of this extreme progress also calls into question the traditional ideas of collectivism and how it could negatively affect the individual which is the core of the entirety of the Persona franchise.
This is more apparent in Persona 2 (IS: 1999; EP: 2000) which deals with a lot of discourse about rumors and propaganda and the early effects of the early internet on the community. There's also a sense of dread for the coming new age as such a possible reflection of the fears of things such as Y2K. An interesting thing to note about Persona 2 are the villains, mainly a serial killer and a terrorist bomber, which shows the communal fear of these events on a society-wide level as this calls back to how Japan just dealt with their own serial killer in the form of the infamous Otaku Killer in 1989 and the fresh from memory terrorist bombing of doomsday cult Aum Shrinrikyo in 1995.
The Persona 2 characters would have grown up in a similar environment as the Persona 1 characters as they are both within Generation X. Knowing my parents who had come from this generation as well, they had told me that there was a constant fear of the apocalypse. It was the height of the cold war when they were growing up and although we weren't directly affected by it, the sheer proximity of our country to large powers like China and our allegiance to their enemy America has created a constant panic. Japan falls in a similar position as a US Ally and a Chinese and Russian enemy that's extremely closely situated to them, so I could imagine that this sort of fear influenced the writing of the games as the writers most certainly had experienced this as well.
It's no wonder then that despite the characters coming from a post-cold war Japan, that these fears may continue in for them and everyone around them so rumors as ridiculous as Hitler literally coming back to attack Japan spread regardless of how realistic it could be.
Skip forward several years, and Atlus decides to brush off the dust of their shelved spin-off series and come back with Persona 3 (2006). The characters are now literally a completely new generation, a generation left behind by their elders and exposed to the harsh reality of the world at such an intensely young age - the millennials.
I know that a lot of people may see this as a stupid point to bring up, but I assure to you that as a non-American, that the war on terror still gripped and sensationalized my own country to such a degree that it did cause a level of apathy among the populace. I'm not sure if this is true of Japan as well, but I feel like tragic world events and the increased visibility of these stories due to the rise of the 24-hour news cycle certainly is a universal experience. It is not surprising that the members of S.E.E.S. needs to fight back against this desolation and desperation on a day-to-day basis when everyone is literally affected by this universal apathy.
An interesting thing to note about Persona 3 is how almost all the characters are either orphans, become orphans during the narrative, or have a complicated relationship with estranged family. I feel like this reflects the way that millennials may feel that they had been abandoned by their elders and now they're forced to navigate the world with little to no guidance or even possibly corrupted guidance from adults like Ikutski.
Technology is also an increased concern in this game, following the trends of the previous two. The progress of technology could lead to incredible and even helpful things such as the creation of Aigis as a fully-realized individual from an AI program or the creation of the evoker as a means to harness the ability of the persona which, in the lore of the franchise, needs to come more naturally but could now be summoned on command regardless of it all. No longer would the person with potential need to wait as long for their abilities to show, all they need is this macabre device in order to access it.
That's the thing though isn't it? This technology comes with a price and comes with disturbing progress as well. Aigis was created to kill shadows and the AI was just created to make her more effective. She was forced to destroy what were essentially her sisters in order to make her the perfect killing machine without any consideration about the possibility of her own humanity despite the fact that they programmed her to be as human as possible.
The evoker came about from years of research from the joint efforts of the Nanjo Conglomerate and the Kirijo group. The research involved in which abused children and destroyed the lives of those who opposed the research just to get where they want to go. There was no care for ethics nor humane treatment which resulted in these children to turn to crime in order to live as a consequence of the unethical research that harmed them.
The concerns of technology and the ethics of playing god were already prevalent before but the turn of the new century put it as a discussion front and center. Stories of cloned sheep or strange chimeras from experimentation had increased discourse of whether or not science had gone too far during this time. Vividly, I remember being s teenager in the 2010s reading these old articles and old Wikipedia entries about these oddities.
As Persona 3 discussed the increased societal apathy for the world, the struggles of the millennial generation navigating it by themselves, and the dangers of research that forego ethics, Persona 4 (2008) focuses on the world's obsession of media, the struggles of a small town in the center of fame, and how collectivism forces the individual to hide themselves to be accepted even moreso than the other three entries of the franchise.
Persona 3 focuses on the early to mid millennial experience in a pre-recession society, Persona 4 focused on the late millennial experience in a media-hungry, recession-era society. These characters would have grown up around the late 90s to the mid 2000s where things such as gossip and paparazzi culture was all the rage. People started to care more about their media presence and how they present themselves not only to the local community but the world.
Gone were the days where rumors only reached a handful of the informed gossipers and internet forum users, and here comes the rise of television! Found in every well-to-do middle-class home! The world is judgmental, unfeeling, and only cares about the hottest new headline and our Investigation Team needs to learn how to be true to who they are in a society that doesn't want them to be.
The setting of the story in a rural town in the brink of urbanization is such a relatable one as I also come from a similar background. The fears of the loss of the cultural and individual identity of the small town is a real one that I had the displeasure of experiencing recently. Progress is good, but it's destroying local businesses. Progress is good, but it's making everyone less personal. Progress is good, but it's making people lose who they are.
It's also not at all just a Japanese pandering situation for the themes of the game be centered on traditional Japanese culture such as the characters' personas being Japanese figures from history, literature, and religion, the main villain and basis of the grander narrative themes also coming from old Shinto mythologies, and the emphasis of tradition with the story even starting out in an old traditional Japanese inn.
Mass media is destroying culture and it's up to the younger generation to navigate these two worlds of preserving who you are and accepting the progress. As a child, I found some level of annoyance that the previous generation before me who acted as my teachers and seniors, both at school, at home, and on the internet, was too forceful on things such as local tradition to the point that some of them even shame people who aren't on the same page as them. In a way, this is them trying to deal with the grander pressures of what society is demanding of them and it's something that I myself grew to understand as I got older.
When I got older, I realized how these complicated systems had genuinely ruined too many lives and destroyed individuality and culture which I know for a fact is a definite almost universal experience for the next generation, Generation Z (colloquially now known as the Zoomers). A common experience for this generation is the shattering of wonderland and the intense exposure to horrible reality at such a young age which leads to such a desensitization that it's worrying.
Most often than not, this generation is told that they are responsible for the horrible state world around them, that they should be the ones to fix the problems of society, that they should do this themselves lest they want to die. This leads to a lot of youth activism and protests with people as young as 11 or 12 being so active in politics that it continues to permeate to this day. Think of those 16-year-olds in this website back at like 2015-2016 that rallied behind the discourse. This is that generation, and it's a universal experience among the group, not just in America, but globally.
I'm gonna be a bit salty and a bit cringy here and maybe a bit biased, but fuck it this is my generation after all.
Persona 5 (2016) is the persona game for the disgruntled Gen Z. As the previous persona games were criticisms of society that could be dismissed off as individual-motivational fluff by those that love ignoring the grander themes of the series, Persona 5 is a figurative punch in the face that's hard to ignore.
No longer are we in made up cities and towns, no longer are we just focused on finding our place in the world, we're in Tokyo, Japan, baby! And we're here to tell everyone in the world that the society that you pride yourselves in is a farce that actively oppresses the weirdos, the outcasts, and the miscreants! They've done fucked up and we're not sitting idly by no more! We're not just gonna defy you by being who we are, we're going to actively stop your shit before you continue hurting others!
As pompous and self-important and even stupid as that sounds, those words reflected the battle cry of the generation. Online slacktivism, exposés, cancellations, and borderline illegal activities that basically amount to doxxing and wiretapping are part of the gen z cultural identity whether we like it or not. The generation selects the shitty adult target and doesn't let off until they're gone and had paid for their crimes.
As how shitty these witch hunts could get, there is no denying that deplatforming dangerous individuals had garnered good results on the cases where it doesn't become a shit storm. In a way, the Phantom Thieves are the success stories that the copycats that we know about in-game try to emulate but just end up hurting innocent people.
As it stands, in the retrospect that we have more than half a decade later after the game's initial launch, Persona 5 interestingly also stands as not only a criticism of larger societal issues, but also to those who try to respond to it by force and how they don't help long-term and are simply contributing to society's oppressive systems. It's interesting to note here how the choice of taking Yaldabaoth's offer of keeping the Phantom Thieves a part of the grander influencers of Japanese society is considered a bad ending.
As much as you want to change society, you best be careful to not fall in the same trappings that would make you the villain that you so desperately fought against. Despite your good judgment before, you should not be the arbiter of right and wrong. You should be there to liberate people, not control them.
The games development in itself is interesting in that not only did it take a long time, but it's based on a lot of real-life events that led to the writing team to develop the game in this direction.
The original plan for the game was supposed to be a road trip with the characters possibly even going international. I speculate that it may be a story that would have supposedly tackled globalization and its effects on the individual which is also an equally poignant thing that Gen Z has experienced. This all changed, however, when Japan was rocked by a massive earthquake and tsunami in 2011 which launched the country into a national crisis. The team became more aware about their country's situation and the people within Japan that it made them change the focus back into Japanese-society.
This refocus seemed to have spurred the writing into a more rebellious direction than the previous concepts possibly owed to the rise of social awareness within the country. News stories had never been more front and center than they have with not only the rise of the internet but it's domination in daily life. In fact, Japanese players had pointed out that the first arc of the game, the lustful PE teacher Suguru Kamoshida, may be based on a real life case of Masato Uchishiba, an Olympic medalist judoka that was accused of sexual harassment and rape by the women's team that he coached which broke out into the news the same year this sudden shift of direction happened.
With news after news of this caliber, it's not surprising that the game had such a frustration with how society works and the failings of authority to protect and to serve the people.
With all of these in mind, as much as the series in itself is flawed, it's such a fascinating reflection of the times. Each of these games are, to a degree, timeless in the fact that they tackle constant pervasive issues that affects not only Japanese society but the grander global culture. Though besides this, the context of the time period and the setting gives such a raw view of what the issues most prevalent were at the time and the struggles of the generation that these games were released for.
I know that there is absolutely no indication that Atlus would be releasing Persona 6 in the near future, but I am assured of one thing. Persona 6 is going to be a reflection of the generation that will grow up with the main characters. It would be a criticism and an earnest look at society's ills that are important to the next generation. The series will continue to build up on previous themes and discussions of the previous games as each generation continues to build up on the discourse of the last. This is the intriguing relationship of the Persona series and the generational experience.
#mayaposts#persona#long posts#persona analysis#persona 1#persona 2#persona 3#persona 4#persona 5#p1#p2#p3#p4#p5#analysis
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Did you know that tumblr will generate "year in review" stats for single-purpose sideblogs? I didn't!
I posted 9 times in 2022
That's 9 more posts than 2021!
6 posts created (67%)
3 posts reblogged (33%)
Blogs I reblogged the most:
@thebibliosphere
@terezis
@bythebyandbithebi
I tagged 8 of my posts in 2022
Only 11% of my posts had no tags
#prev tags - 1 post
#but i am legitimately glad sponsoring the post is amusing to people - 1 post
#if you only intend to communicate with one person - 1 post
#i mentioned this another post but when you use tags you are communicating with everyone who follows or browses your blog - 1 post
#i also have adhd and hard same - too often it's a boring slog without a worthwhile reward especially for sequential prev tags - 1 post
#they passed peer review - 1 post
#like you are achieving communication with *your* intended target but at the expense of being irritating to all other people - 1 post
#or maybe it's a little more like having a full-voice phone convo in rhe middle of a group of people? - 1 post
#not as long as the og but still - 1 post
#long post - 1 post
Longest Tag: 139 characters
#like actually putting the tags in question on your own reblog (whether in the tags or in the text or in a screenshot) is objectively better
My Top Posts in 2022:
#5
https://theladydrgn.tumblr.com/post/681999207675150336 are you aware someone screenshotted a portion of your post and it's up to 10k notes
I saw that come across my dash separately a bit ago, I think it's hilarious. I'm not familiar with the OP of the screenshot post but if I had to guess, I'd guess that 10k notes is prolly bc thebibliosphere reblogged it and her following is gargantuan.
(I actually follow thebibliosphere, too, and i saw her reblog of it before you pointed it out, although I didn't notice the note count until you pointed it out so thank you so much 😅)
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#4
Screenshots are inaccessible to visually impaired people. If you feel that strongly about it please just promote copy/pasting instead
fun fact! the original post, if you read it all the way through, describes copy-pasting, either within the tags of your reblog or within the text, as alternatives if you don’t want to screenshot
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#3
apparently i’m getting kungpowpenis’d but bc I turned off notes for this sideblog I’m immune from the negative effects~~~
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#2
Because the prev tags is not for you or any of my followers but for the person who wrote the tags ofc but I appreciate the amount of effort you put into this cause you must feel very strongly about it
someone rb'd with a picture of martin luther getting his thesis-nailing on, which probably wasn't meant in a complimentary way but I thought was funny.
also, direct message.
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My #1 post of 2022
JUST TAKE A SCREENSHOT
If you see tags that someone else left on a post and want to share them with your followers (or anyone else who chances across your blog), please, please, PLEASE: don't use "prev tags," or "previous tags" or "prev prev tags" or any variation that may occur to you at the moment you're making that decision.
The very best way on Tumblr to:
share that information in the tags with people who follow you, or
continue a conversation that the person who said that thing in the tags, or
let everyone know how hard you're cackling at a joke someone made, or
whatever other reason you're drawing attention to someone else's tags
is to actually add the tag in question to the version of the post as it will appear when you reblog it. A screenshot is the most durable way to do this, since it gets included in all the downstream reblogs from your own, but if you don't want that for some reason, just replicate the actual tag in question in the tags of your reblog. If you're absolutely, vehemently against the screenshot, including the tags in question could look like this:
or like this:
OP has some really great tags:
#cool additional commentary tangential to the original topic #user who added the tags didn't include them in the body of the post but you thought they were important
and I think everyone should see them
The biggest reason to do this is that nobody wants a scavenger hunt. This is especially true when the tags in question are from more than one reblog down the line, or ones that you found in the notes on a different reblog chain.
The other big reason is the durability thing mentioned earlier. Maybe the tags you're enamored with came from OP, and they decided they didn't want notifications from the post anymore and deleted it. If you used "omg OP's tags 😹" with no further clarification, that information is lost forever when OP deletes the post. Same case if OP (or the person you reblogged from) deactivates, or gets deactivated. Actually including the tags in question makes sure that as long as someone is viewing it on your blog (or on any downstream reblog from you, if you used a screenshot) they can see the same thing you did.
Using "prev tags" instead of actually including the tags you're talking about results in a significant decrease in the usability of the website. Please, just screenshot the tags, or reproduce them in your post.
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The Heist That Happened the 30th of October in 2019
This one is more focused since I have proper records of events and I was actually highly active prior, during, and after the release.
I had fun with the title. I also want to say this about the endings. Even the earliest folks took a minimum of 2 hours. 3rd hour was when a lot of the super active fans finished. So if anyone says they took one hour, obvious hyperbole but it’s just a minor annoyance I have.
ISWM Countdown- 1 day.
Let’s start at the beginning or at least... an easily traceable date for this mess.
2019-05-03
Since Damien came out around this time it was put on hold for fandom topics until a later date but fans are already aware of an upcoming project. Said later date was around May 20, 2019 where people began speculating the what ifs and could be of the series. It’s really funny since Mark’s post already told us what happens in the actual Heist when you look back on that picture.
A common joke told at the time is how we were gonna steal the museum itself. Made jokes on how we’re all gonna side with Dark the second we have a chance to switch sides. Even speculations how we might play a bigger role in the Heist by calling out Actor on his bullshit.
Then came the June 24, 2019 stream. Most well known as the one where Mark told us to shame him for locking out Amy and the stream where he wore a yellow shirt. Someone made a good summary post of the events (op deactivated). By openly talking about it and how excited he seemed, it created hype.
Late July, Mark began doing weird things to his channel banner. I just put this one since there is a mention of third Sunday and use of a moment in ADWM.
August not much to comment on outside of the Dark with demonic and religious art depictions n’ stuff. Really want that fan art era to be brought back... My gothic heart needs it. Uhh, yeah and September was focused on The Edge of Sleep but boy, when October hit? We went wild.
Before I go recalling the events leading up to the day. It is necessary that I show you this reblog from 2018-03-01.
Keep that in your head.
October 08: This is probably the first day when things started to turn suspicious. If you’re part of Jack and Mark’s fandom, the spooky month is when we go into overdrive. Like what could October 30 mean...
October 10: Mark uploaded this on his tumblr. And would you look at that. Actor exists in the video. What could the portrait be for? Looking back, I don’t quite remember those exact sound effects being used in the actual youtube original. It may have just been for promotional content and considering there was an activity level spike. I’d say the video do its job.
We do love our speculations. And I want to say this, a lot of predictions were off the mark. In the sense that a lot of us assumed that the Heist itself would take about 2 or 3 videos before going off course, instead of the one it ended up being. That was our mistake. The actual date did only happen for one video because the next options went off the rails. There were other, angstier and bold takes people had as well. Even with the inaccuracies, I still like reading old posts of what we thought could and would happen.
October 12: And look what we have here, a post theorizing that the long awaited white suit. If you can imagine gossip girls at the lunch table that is what talks about the white suit felt like. Also being in both fandoms was a wonderful kind of hell. Content for days! Content for weeks! Upcoming content to last us til the end!
October 13: Of course, Mark won’t allow us to rest and let our attention stray far away from him. So what does he do? Laugh at the size of our beloved ADWM’s flowchart. Mark’s “heh“ is a signature response. Keep that info locked in your brain because we still see him respond the same way.
That 11 word response threw us into chaos which we both revel and thrive in as a community, and make us go to the deepest levels of insanity. I did like the joke about making 69 endings.
October 14: This day starts the unexpected leak spam.
October 15: The leak’s origins can’t be traced and left a lot of us confused and/or enjoying the show.
I find this one to be the most cursed of all the no context leaks. This one also got spammed but I’m not sure if anyone has a screenshot of that. Oasis of galaxies made an incredible post summarizing the shitstorm that brewed on this day.
Over on youtube, another teaser for the Heist which we know comes from the Dark Tunnel section.
October 16: After what happened the previous day, this one was rather chill. Just a few edits here and there about October 30.
October 17: We can’t have peace for long because there’s only two weeks left before the release. So time to spice shit up. What is hilarious about that poll is Mark made us believe that he was going to betray the viewer and we were all on board. Because Mark/Actor has been a bitch but then you look at the videos we have after release. Mark never betrays you, he has wanted to split up a couple of routes but Mark was an incredibly loyal, maybe dumb, but reliable enough partner throughout the Heist. And you see that bit shine in the route to Ending #6 The End. This was a red herring.
More teasers.
October 18: We’re getting overwhelmed and high strung not knowing when this man would strike next.
Ehehe... that link uhh... may have happened to me when ISWM released which led me to doing all of this.
October 19: More pain and suffering continues for the multifandom fans.
October 21: The man spoiled us Illinois before telling or even showing him.
October 22: Mark will not allow us a moment of respite if he can help it.
October 23: The trailer is officially released and people could check the keywords of the youtube video and learn which youtubers were going to be part of it. Abe stans on their way to jail.
If you were active enough, you would’ve known that on this day, the number of videos and endings were leaked in an article.
October 24: Six days left. Have you theorized enough. Have you prepared yourself physically, mentally, and emotionally for this? Without knowing the length of the entire show but equipped with the knowledge of the endings.
This is single handedly the most important spoiler filled teaser that Mark gave to us. It’s a compilation of the whistling clips. Without the knowledge of it being a music number or coming from a new ego, there were theories of it being either Heist/Actor or even Dark’s voice. With the info we have now, it’s safe to assume that the clips the whistling were taken from is the path you took to get out of prison with Yancy. That was a popular speculation.
October 25: The fucker just won’t leave us alone. Even on youtube he was terrorizing the fans.
The most wholesome thing to come out of the chaos he created is when he announced that the crew would be watching the premiere.
October 26: Forgot to mention but even though it was stated in an article, there was a bit of division amongst the fans until Mark himself confirmed that there are indeed 31 endings.
October 27: One of the excitable fans decided to try a little something out. This led to an early discovery of the site: https://www.aheistwithmarkiplier.com/
Surprise surprise. You can figure out what the fandom talked about that day.
Actually, it wasn’t that talked about because Mark did a diversion by creating RABID MARKIPLIER. And THAT flooded the tag. His diversion tactic worked.
Soon after, the website was locked and when you tried to access it, it would say “Private site”. Looks like someone poked their nose into some top secret stuff. Also for the dumb and/or lazy here is the password.
October 29: Dad Mark is back from the grocery store and won’t accept compliments.
October 30: THE Day. A lovely day to rob a museum. Now we better take good care of our sweet little tuckus before heading off to the Heist.
Here are some of my favorite within the first 24 hour posts:
Very subtle Mark. Veeery subtle. This was a neat visual trick that I kept in my memory bank. And this one and that one were just us never being satisfied. We were high on the adrenaline and serotonin that we just wanted a much harder puzzle. Still those bloopers are incredible.
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Aftermath...
October 31: The day right after. We made him speechless. Maybe you shouldn’t have challenged your fans. It was an incredible experience for sure and seeing how happy he is about the success of the project makes us as a community happy as well.
Oh-! and you know how earlier I told you to keep a certain info in your head?
Truly a King of fan service
The fan reception was overwhelmingly positive. Yancy and Illinois became quick favorites. Wilford and Dark’s outfits made everyone scream. Ending 6 has an incredible storyline. Theorists were staying up overnight. The musical got us dancing. It was an entertaining experience. Watching Heist gave the same reactions one would get when they got out of the cinema after watching an amazing film but it was done in the comfort of one’s home.
Here are some of the fan interactions and other related things he did after.
Just Mark and the fans being proud about everything: x | x | x | x
AHWM Explanation stream stuff: x | x | x | x | x The first two are the summaries. And here are the bloopers and BTS before they were public.
Amy is the best! x | x | x | x | x |
Fandom’s week in review: We were on the list twice!
A fan compiled the entire show and it’s great. Really interesting.
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Personal experience:
Tried to be as objective as much as possible above. Now I can talk about my ideas and experiences about the Heist. The bullshit that came before, during, and after.
To start off, I am incredibly lucky to have met someone in my life that also likes Mark at this point in time. I could actually share this excitement and hype with someone. We talked a lot about fandom stuff. Specifically Mark and Jack since it is October and they were up to bullshit. A lot of what we talked about is lost in time because they were 1 to 1 conversations but I have a significant amount of stuff that we talked over on messenger.
I was always in the know and frequently updated them. They were super excited when they heard that the Game Grumps were gonna be a part of the project. I told them about the site, they managed to access it but when I had the time to get to it, the site was already in private. They were the one who told me about Mark kinda challenged us on how fast we can finish the youtube original. Sent each other memes, so on, and so forth.
As we’re fangirling we still have lives to live and the release date of Heist just so happened to be the day of an event we had to go to as well. We talked about how we’d just be dying in a corner talking about the show.
And the anticipation of what bullshit Mark is going to do next, what will he make the members do, what things did the fandom talk about that will come true. All of that pent up energy just made me feel like a bouncy person and I am not much for overwhelming feelings. Not good at all with handling emotions. Kind of why my ships and favorite egos post is a mess despite my best efforts.
As a fan, living through October 14-15 was a nightmare. Living through October 27 felt like I was being gaslighted into thinking it never happened and rabies mark is the only thing that matters. And oh my god the fanfic ideas were on fire that month.
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So what about the day itself? Well. I had my laptop set up, got myself cozy and made sure there weren’t any distractions. Had a tab open to live chat my friend and rewatched WKM, ADWM, and the AHWM trailer before it went live. 3 minutes before it went live, I was watching ADWM, HORROR. 2 minutes, switched to the AHWM trailer. Before it released, I even told (lowkey bet) my friend I’d get Dark’s ending on the first try because “I trained myself for this”.
From the first option it was obvious which one led to which kind of ending. Sneaky like was more lowkey, it went somewhere dark, it was a logical choice! Did not hesitate to jump in there. Split up options were very obvious death ends so I just didn’t split up with Mark. Had a laugh from our sheer will to stay with Mark. I screamed about the suit being similar to ADWM.
Also trust you me, I almost didn’t get Dark’s ending because a. the thumbnail for don’t split up was incredibly click worthy and b. I once again almost misunderstood the assignment.
I had to reason with myself that “We have to split up because I don’t want the tunnel to fall since it said only 1 person at a time” and “Split Up is 4 minutes long... If it’s a death end then so be it”. That was my thought process. I knew Dark’s ending was in the general path I was on but I didn’t know if this was it. I took a risk.
Then my surprise is shown in this video. The hallway, I was just freaking out. So happy about my decisions and even though I didn’t capture it in recording, I fucking flipped and had to pause while fangirl screaming the very second you see Dark in full view with the white suit. The white fucking suit. Instead of letting it play out and then going back to it later, I just paused every other second so I can appreciate everything. The fit, the editing, his dialogue, the auras. Those glitches. Shit.
I didn’t get through the entirety of Ending 31 in 4 minutes. In the middle I just fangirled so much that I threw myself to the floor and curled into a ball while being a blushing mess. There may not be anymore videos but I have the photo and it’s was definitely the “Maybe you just missed my pretty face” that got me.
This gif is how I fangirled in my head. In reality I screamed for like 2 seconds, lied down on the floor in the comfort of my blanket and went “OHMYGODOHMYGODOHMYGODHESSOHOTFUCKWHYISHECALLINGUSOUTMARKIHATEYOUBUTFUCKWHYDYOUMAKEDARKSODAMNHOT” inside my head. With a couple of audible excited squeaks coming out. I was down BAD.
After that I sat up and asked my friend if they were alright with a bit of spoilers and said I got Dark’s ending. Went on to finish the route, read through the early comments section and it was just the Dark fans being super happy, a couple of confused first timers, and theorists that were glad this was their first ending because of the hint. My friend meanwhile got the Fresh Meat ending.
I had to calm down after that. Recover from the fangirl mess I became and opened up a document to begin listing down the codes to start the hunt. Told my friend I’d send them the code once I was done. They did a few more routes before getting tired but I just stayed up all day to finish it. I was super dedicated to this god dang it.
Finished the Dark Tunnel, went to light tunnel. Got super excited about Cranbersher’s animation. Was very much stranger danger when Captain Magnum showed up. Laughed at how stupid his endings are. Met Matpat and was very confused the entire time. After clearing All Sneaky Like, went to check on tumblr a bit but not so much that I’d see heavy spoilers. I just saw Yancy but nothing else.
Did the Helicopter route. Became awestruck with the musical. Got super confused if that was still our Mark or a new character and realized it is a new character in the next video. Fell in love with Yancy. Then I decided fuck that shit, I’m going to the car option. Met Illinois first and said Indiana Jones rip off. Ended up liking this flirty son of a gun. Went on to fall in love with Heist Mark in the other option because holy shit is this motherfucker sincere in this route. When he defended you from the Professor, ah, my heart. Had to take another rest because boy was I getting sleepy but my fandom pride won’t let me so I pushed forth and did the rest.
If my first ending was Dark’s, my last ending’s was Wilford. Kinda poetic. And even though I’m tired as shit I opened up tumblr and read through what people thought. Went through my heist codes and looked at the things I missed or maybe mistyped something as an upper case when it’s supposed to be lower case and voila! Got to open the secrets of the website and rested peacefully.
It was an incredibly exhilarating journey and I have never felt so much more satisfied with my day. I woke up with a pep in my step, happily scrolling and even talking about it with my friend later that day. How we felt, what we liked, what we hope for the future of these characters.
Like everyone else Yancy just managed to worm his way into my heart. The tag was just filled to the brim with new egos. I read up on quickly made theories. Read through posts about the show. I was just incredibly happy the next few weeks. It had such an impact and it’s not an experience you can recreate so easily. 10/10 I loved every moment of this mess. P.S eat shit Mark for clowning on us Dark and Yancy fans.
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And you’ve finally reached the end! With under 24 hours left before ISWM’s release I hope you guys are ready because I can’t wait to feel that rush all over again. Even thinking about it is getting me pumped up!
Last time I went cozy but this time I prepared a fit for the event. Hell, I prepared it 3 weeks in advance. If we’re going to space, I gotta look good and I just treated this like a formal event. Hehe.
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@luinmeriliel Hmm. Alright, I don’t think there are people who care about or get really annoyed about any solid “rules,” or if there are, there aren’t many of them, but lemme try to answer that one…
If your comment is specifically about a single post, like in your example, you should probably try to talk to the person posting it by reblogging or commenting on that one post, and “@”-adding them to the post/comment to let them know the comment is specifically aimed at them.
To add someone on a post or comment, type the “@” symbol and then, without adding a space in the middle, type the person’s blog name, and their name, along with other suggested blog names you could be addressing, should show up as you type it on the bottom of the screen, so click on that. If it’s worked, the blog name and @ symbol should turn blue, or grey, and it will work as a link to the poster’s blog when you click on it after you’ve finished your comment/reblog.
It doesn’t always work, I’m afraid. I’ve heard it works better for main blogs and not side blogs (main blogs are just the first automatically given blog you get when you create an account on Tumblr, every other blog you make after that is considered a “sideblog” by the website system), so if it doesn’t work, maybe they made this post from a sideblog. Try typing in their main blog name if you happen to know it. Maybe they have it in their blog description. If you still can’t get it to work, write it out anyway and just say “Hey OP” (OP means original poster) or something.
Comments are slightly more likely to be checked by the OP than reblogs for any questions aimed specifically at them, because of a trend that started ages ago to avoid a website problem that has since been fixed. But if you just comment, then fewer people will see your comment than they would if it was a reblog. Comments are a little more private. So for a broad question you don’t mind other people seeing the answer to about brush sizes, you might as well reblog it so other people can see if they’re curious.
Now, if you want to talk to someone who didn’t make the post but who’s commenting/reblogging on it, then do the same thing, but type their blog name. Generally follow their lead— if the person had left a comment on the post, reply with your own comment, and if the person reblogged, you can reply with your own reblog. Remember, though, reblogs are more public, so if you’re replying to their reblog by pointing out a mistake or something that might embarrass them, then maybe you should comment to them instead of reblogging them.
But if you aren’t specifically talking to a person on OP’s post, and just want to riff off something they said, and you’re talking to an audience, not them, don’t bother adding them. Reblog with your statement, and if they made a comment, not a reblog, that you want to add to, take a screenshot of their comment, add it to your post, and then write whatever you wanted to say.
If you think something someone commented on a post deserves to be seen by more people, because it made a great point to whatever the post was about, or was a good joke, or whatever, then take a screenshot of their comment and then write something about how you thought this deserved to be a public reblog because it made a great point or joke or whatever. Same goes for tags left by the OP or someone reblogging their post that you think more ppl should see— you’ll notice a lot of reblogs with a screenshot of tags and the words “don’t leave this in the tags!” But you’ll make the post more accessible for people using e-readers if you type out the words instead of making it a screenshot. Just give credit to the person who made it by writing out their blog name, like “[blog name]’s tags:” “[blog name] commented:”
For anything you want to say to someone that’s not concerning a specific post, but concerning multiple posts on their blog, or about their blog, or them as a person in general, go to their blog and send an ask or a message. You can click on the poster’s icon at the top the screen, and there’s options to send a post, an ask, or a message. Sometimes people don’t allow you to send one of them, so the options will have one or two missing or don’t show up at all, obviously. Go with what you see.
The asks don’t have to be answered by the person publically, but not everyone knows about the option to answer an ask privately, so usually they have to make a post on their blog answering your ask. So if you don’t mind other people seeing and reblogging your ask and the blogger’s answer, go ahead and make it an ask. DM them by sending a message if it’s more private. Like anything that you want to let the OP know that could be embarrassing or something. But it doesn’t always have to be embarrassing things— DMs are just more private, that’s all. No one has to see but you and the other person. Ask answers are often assumed to have to be posts, so anyone could happen to see it on OP’s blog.
I heard a lot of people ignore/don’t get DMs if they’re on mobile, but I don’t know if it’s true.
Asks do sometimes allow you to ask anonymously, so if you don’t want the person you’re talking to knowing who you are, make it an ask, and you might have the option to be anonymous.
People who both follow each other—we call those mutuals— often make friends by DM-ing each other, I believe. So for that kind of interaction, you can slip into DMs. Asks are usually more “here’s a compliment I want everyone to see”-ish. But again, there aren’t strict rules. You can go with what feels right.
I hope this helps. Good luck on Tumblr.
so it's been about a week since i've moved from reddit to this god forsaken hell hole (tumblr) and like
i love it
i'm not going back to reddit
my RtT (redditor to tumblrina) transition is complete
i never thought i would say this but this social media (if you can call tumblr one) is actually doing wonders for my mental health
no more doom scrolling
actually interacting with humans that are just as weird as me (feel free to talk to me)
not being afraid of being myself
yeah...
i'm home.
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I posted 6,054 times in 2021
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#deltarune - 109 posts
#fave - 105 posts
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#me about to pursue an art history doctorate after i finish what i'm doing now and write a book of nonsense about how it all relates together
My Top Posts in 2021
#5
there’s something therapeutic about imagining a broadway-style curtain call at the end of magnus. tim and sasha appear from each side of the stage to wave at the audience, sasha holding not!sasha’s hand. elias and peter bow deeply in unison. michael and helen poke each other playfully with their long fingers and pop in and out of different doors before disappearing. gerry comes onstage in a flurry of papers and brings eric and mary with him. annabelle is lowered onto the stage from a hanging platform like a diva to thunderous applause. simon and mike crew hoot and wave at the audience from a high platform and pop away simultaneously when the spotlight turns off. nikola and jane swing each other in a wild dance that makes the stage shake. gertrude appears alone and does an elegant curtsey. daisy+basira and melanie+georgie appear together, arms linked, and all four do a bow together. finally, after everything has quieted down, jon and martin appear from either side, and as the curtain falls, they join hands.
3440 notes • Posted 2021-03-26 04:55:59 GMT
#4
i consider myself an expert in the field
3621 notes • Posted 2021-05-03 15:01:55 GMT
#3
anyone else bothered by the slow disappearance of websites for kids and the integration of children into sites meant for adults. as a kid i spent most of my time online on websites like girlsgogames, club penguin, barbie.com, moshi monsters, etc. etc. now 7 year olds just use tiktok.
[op was a terf so i copied the post]
6710 notes • Posted 2021-12-06 17:58:06 GMT
#2
trans rights and lives will always be legitimate and worth fighting for so terfs die mad
[original post: you know what i think really slaps? the fact that every generation of teens online have grown up with personality quizzes. when i was a teen we had quizilla. before the rise of buzzfeed they were ubiquitous in magazines and a bunch of sites had flash personality quizzes that played like games. now we have uquiz. entire chunks of the internet might be getting phased out someday but on god we have our right to find out which fruit best represents our personality]
20565 notes • Posted 2021-11-01 00:26:03 GMT
#1
so i just learned that after disney+ debuted disney shut down a huge chunk of its tv channels around the world such as disney channel and disney XD including the ones in south korea, so for old times’ sake i just spent a good hour or so watching channel shutdown compilations and 90% of these worldwide disney channels just.... got absolutely no sendoff whatsoever. many of them got their plug pulled right in the middle of a show without even waiting for the episode to finish airing and there was no ending jingle or even a voiced-over announcement, only a sudden cut to a soulless monotone blank screen with “this channel is no longer available.” like the stuff of childhood nightmares
you’d think a company with such a family-friendly image would take the time to at least explain briefly to its very young audience that all their fave shows will be moving to another service or something, hell, at least do it for advertisements’ sake so that kids can pester their parents into buying disney+, but disney does not care about you and it does not care about your children and it will absolutely snatch the last shred of comfort from a kid’s hands if it means they don’t have to spend an extra $400 recording an ending announcement in different languages
and honestly i am just sitting here with my heart in my throat like. none of our current art is truly permanent, is it. we like to think that we have better documentation and archiving technology than generations past but all it really takes is for one megacompany to slap some copyright tape over its comic book villain safe and then toss that safe in the ocean for all it’s worth. youtube could potentially choose to do the same and simply wipe its entire site clean overnight. adobe decided to throw flash in the garbage and decades worth of internet content just.... disappeared from reach. i am begging every digital creator out there to backup your content to as many outlets as you possibly can. use different cloud services that aren’t owned by one company. use physical usb drives and hard drives. if programs you used to open your work become obsolete at least document what it was so it can be passed on and remembered by people who want to. jesus christ i need a drink
35948 notes • Posted 2021-10-24 17:46:34 GMT
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I posted 3,328 times in 2021
974 posts created (29%)
2354 posts reblogged (71%)
For every post I created, I reblogged 2.4 posts.
I added 1,021 tags in 2021
#the magnus archives - 223 posts
#tma - 221 posts
#tma spoilers - 152 posts
#ceaseless watcher turn your gaze upon this incredible fanart - 94 posts
#anon - 80 posts
#ask game - 78 posts
#rqg - 62 posts
#rusty quill gaming - 56 posts
#jonmartin - 28 posts
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#the grades don't count! i did my first year of uni in a pandemic while suffering from many mental illnesses that were all being untreated!!
My Top Posts in 2021
#5
annabelle texting martin: hey, jon's here! you gonna come say hi? ::::)
martin, still putting together his 'we had an argument and i need to remind him how hot i am' outfit: stall him
annabelle, grabbing the mr spider tape: on it
2115 notes • Posted 2021-02-18 17:11:37 GMT
#4
what if martin is grumpy when he is sleepy and when he was staying in the archives in s1, jon was in ridiculously early and got in just as martin was getting ready for the morning and he was awkwardly like 'ah, good morning martin, getting ready for the work day?' bc he panicked and was forced into socialisation without expecting it
and then martin just sleepily went 'oh fuck off its 7am youre not my boss for another 2 hours'
cut to half an hour later when they've both had a minute to think and jon just goes 'waIT WHY WAS THAT ATTRACTIVE' while martin goes 'OH NO I TOLD MY BOSS TO FUCK OFF IM SO FIRED' and they spend the rest of the day in awkward silence, driving tim and sasha crazy bc 'jon hasn't come to shout at martin all day something has happened oh no'
2128 notes • Posted 2021-01-13 21:46:28 GMT
#3
yeah this is exactly what the title says it is
2254 notes • Posted 2021-03-25 17:02:47 GMT
#2
i cannot believe that this didn't occur to me earlier, but i'm on a hike rn through the countryside so it's on my mind i guess
i've talked about jmart going hiking before, and how public footpaths through fields are common in the uk
but there is a particular type of gate that separates fields to allow people through but not livestock
it looks like this
it's called a kissing gate
they got this nickname bc they can only be used one at a time, so someone would go through the gate, shut it behind them, and then demand a kiss as payment to open the gate for the other person
so now i'm thinking about jmart finding a kissing gate and jon explaining the origins of the nickname to martin and martin using this to his advantage
2717 notes • Posted 2021-04-25 12:07:01 GMT
#1
i cannot stop thinking about the post-post-apocalypse tumblr discourse, can you even imagine what this place would be like??
'i think the buried avatars are homophobic, they literally buried the gays and if you support the buried then unfollow me'
'op is end aligned and refuses to acknowledge that the end actually killed gay people, thus doing the actual definition of bury your gays'
'make your own post'
and then you scroll down and they did actually make their own post and it says 'end kinnies are so desperate to act like they weren't the only ones literally killing people after the change anyway stan the vast'
3467 notes • Posted 2021-03-26 10:14:14 GMT
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