#the people’s princess rachel zegler

[pollenallergie]

she’s everything to me like hello???

[agentmilayawithshield]

Her manifestation skills are actually insane

[avtvmnalvibes]

Okay another opinion tonight because I’m full of them, I think people are people are being way too hard on Rachel Zegler about the Snow White remake.

Is this movie going to be shit? Almost definitely. Do I think that the costume looks terrible and exactly like that; a costume? Absolutely. Do I think this movie needs to be made? Not at all. Disney needs to stop making remakes PERIOD. I can name at least 5 other things wrong with this remake just off the top of my head, but will not take the time to at this moment.

None of these things are an excuse to BULLY a young woman publicly and repeatedly, and act outraged like she’s murdering your mother. Criticizing the movie itself, its promotion, and whatever other aspects you take issue with is fine, but why would you insult the character and talent of this young woman who you don’t even know??? Like actually what is wrong with you

[mockingjaysnakes]

OBSESSED.

[hahahax30]

Rachel zegler has me wanting to bang my head repeatedly against a wall until I start bleeding to death

[tacoreib]

[edwardtulanepdf]

she’s a 10 but she has parasocial relationships with disney characters

[almutbruhl]

shes so gorg

Rachel Zegler at the Met Gala

[artist-issues]

I Hate How She Talks About Snow White

"People are making these jokes about ours being the PC Snow White, where it's like, yeah, it is − because it needed that. It's an 85-year-old cartoon, and our version is a refreshing story about a young woman who has a function beyond 'Someday My Prince Will Come. "

Let me tell you a little something's about that "85-year-old cartoon," miss Zegler.

It was the first-ever cel-animated feature-length full-color film. Ever. Ever. EVER. I'm worried that you're not hearing me. This movie was Disney inventing the modern animated film. Spirited Away, Into the Spider-Verse, Tangled, you don't get to have any of these without Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (1937.)

Speaking of what you wouldn't get without this movie, it includes anime as a genre. Not just in technique (because again, nobody animated more than shorts before this movie) but in style and story. Anime, as it is now, wouldn't exist without Osamu Tezuka, "The God of Manga," who wouldn't have pioneered anime storytelling in the 1940s without having watched and learned from Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs in the 1930s. No "weeb" culture, no Princess Mononoke, no DragonBall Z, no My Hero Academia, no Demonslayer, and no Naruto without this "85-year-old cartoon."

It was praised, not just for its technical marvels, not just for its synchronized craft of sound and action, but primarily and enduringly because people felt like the characters were real. They felt more like they were watching something true to life than they did watching silent, live-action films with real actors and actresses. They couldn't believe that an animated character could make kids wet their pants as she flees, frightened, through the forest, or grown adults cry with grieving Dwarves. Consistently.

Walt Disney Studios was built on this movie. No no; you're not understanding me. Literally, the studio in Burbank, out of which has come legends of this craft of animated filmmaking, was literally built on the incredible, odds-defying, record-breaking profits of just Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs, specifically.

Speaking of record-breaking profits, this movie is the highest-grossing animated film in history. Still. TO THIS DAY. And it was made during the Great Depression.

In fact, it made four times as much money than any other film, in any other genre, released during that time period. It was actually THE highest-grossing film of all time, in any genre, until nothing less than Gone With the Wind, herself, came along to take the throne.

It was the first-ever animated movie to be selected for the National Film Registry. Actually, it was one of the first movies, period, to ever go into the registry at all. You know what else is in the NFR? The original West Side Story, the remake of which is responsible for Rachel Ziegler's widespread fame.

Walt Disney sacrificed for this movie to be invented. Literally, he took out a mortgage on his house and screened the movie to banks for loans to finish paying for it, because everyone from the media to his own wife and brother told him he was crazy to make this movie. And you want to tell me it's just an 85-year-old cartoon that needs the most meaningless of updates, with your tender 8 years in the business?

Speaking of sacrifice, this movie employed over 750 people, and they worked immeasurable hours of overtime, and invented--literally invented--so many new techniques that are still used in filmmaking today, that Walt Disney, in a move that NO OTHER STUDIO IN HOLLYWOOD was doing in the 30's, put this in the opening credits: "My sincere appreciation to the members of my staff whose loyalty and creative endeavor made possible this production." Not the end credits, like movies love to do today as a virtue-signal. The opening credits.

It's legacy endures. Your little "85-year-old cartoon" sold more than 1 million DVD copies upon re-release. Just on its first day. The Beatles quoted Snow White in one of their songs. Legacy directors call it "the greatest film ever made." Everything from Rolling Stones to the American Film Institute call this move one of the most influential masterpieces of our culture. This movie doesn't need anything from anybody. This movie is a cultural juggernaut for America. It's a staple in the art of filmmaking--and art, in general. It is the foundation of the Walt Disney Company, of modern children's media in the West, and of modern adaptations of classical fairy tales in the West. When you think only in the base, low, mean terms of "race" and "progressivism" you start taking things that are actually worlds-away from being in your league to judge, and you relegate them to silly ignorant phrases like "85-year-old cartoon" to explain why what you're doing is somehow better.

Sit down and be humble. Who the heck are you?

[dommnics]

Just a little in between work sketch of Rachel Zegler's Snow White. This particular shot from the trailer has been making the rounds online, for the way the styling around Rachel has been disappointing some people. I'm finding I haven't been too fussed about the aesthetic they've been going for, but I can definitely see where improvements could have been made. Overall, I'm liking what I've been seeing, and I'm really interested in how they've interpreted the fairy tale this time around.

But just for fun, had I been the one to approach the way her hair was styled in the movie, I would have been really tempted to lean into a tangled mess of princess hair - curls and braids and laces. When I think "Snow White", Trina Schart Hyman's illustrations aren't far away in my mind and I think that really influences how I see her in my head. But I do feel that the short hair is an absolute staple for the Disney version, and I know they would want to capitalize on that look.

[rachelzeglertruther]

Why You're Wrong About Rachel Zegler

This is a long post, but there's a lot of context missing from the Rachel Zegler "discourse" that I thought I could add with my history of watching this unfold from the beginning.

The Snow White Thing

You probably know this part. There's a curated video of Rachel going viral, framed to make her seem like she's never seen Snow White, she hates the story, she hates the character, she's ungrateful, and single-handedly ruined Disney's brand. The clips from these videos are not new— they were released nearly a year ago in September 2022 and nobody cared about them at the time. Why? Because all the full interviews she did that day at the Disney Exo in 2022 showed a young, charming woman who was excited and proud to be cast in an iconic role. The interviews were very well received and it was a non story. Now that it's been edited down and cut together in a malicious way, and the people sharing them are purposefully misquoting her, they've twisted the context. Normally, this would be a non controversy. Even if that video wasn't taken out of context and spliced together to make her seem like she hates the film, most people wouldn't care. The issue is the response to the video.

Let's get this out of the way: Rachel Zegler doesn't hate Snow White. She relayed that she was afraid of the forest scene as a child and didn't revisit it again until after she was cast in the role. She has since then watched it several times and has expressed for YEARS before that interview came out that she was incredibly honored and grateful to be playing such an iconic Disney princess. If you watch the full videos that those clips came from, this comes across immediately to anyone with their own mind. If you hate someone for being scared of something as a child, I don't know what to tell you. If the role was being given to the biggest Snow White fan, you would be correct that she doesn't deserve it. Unfortunately for you, this role requires talent and Rachel has the Golden Globe and critical acclaim from people who matter within the industry (her peers and critics).

You know who does hate their beloved characters in beloved franchises but the general public still applauds them? Harrison Ford, Sean Connery, Daniel Craig, and Robert Pattinson. They've all expressed outright contempt for the roles and the films they were part of, but nobody cared. People had fun with their quotes but they still respected them. Rachel said nothing even closely resembling their remarks, but she's being torn to shreds. Are we seeing a pattern here?

Rachel never said a single bad thing about the character or the animated film— she said that it was outdated and that set people over the edge, foaming at the mouth to have her burned at the stake. If you think it would be perfectly fine to have a movie about an abused 14 year old girl run away to play housemaid for a bunch of men, get kissed in her sleep/death by an adult man, and then wake up to fall into his arms in 2024, that's certainly a hot take. If you're against remakes, direct your ire at Disney. But if you truly think that plot would work with young girls today, you're the one who's out of touch. It would do far more harm than good to portray a young woman in that light.

She also never said that there was anything wrong with romance or love. She said that the new Snow White wasn't only dreaming of that. I can't stress enough that this wasn't her decision… she was describing the plot of the new film that was written by Greta Gerwig and approved by Disney. There's a prince in the film and he will also have a more developed personality and storyline. If you have a problem with the writing, wait until it comes out so you can write your strongly worded letter to Greta. If you have a problem with the concept in general, take it up with Disney. There's no need for you to be defensive over hurting the legacy of a multi-billion dollar company or a 87 year old cartoon written by a proud racist antisemite. This is the most confusing part of the hate campaign to me because it wasn't even her opinion— she was literally describing the plot of the film she had nothing to do with. It also isn't a new thing. Disney actors have been promoting their newer films this way for years.

It's perfectly okay to like things that are problematic. It's becoming an issue that we refuse to acknowledge that maybe some things we love are harmful. What we can't do is justify why it's not problematic, and in fact everyone who calls it out is the problem and NOT their precious cartoon. The 1937 Snow White was an amazing feat of animation. It's a classic for a reason. But it was also Hitler's favorite film and was directed by a white supremacist (the one who is "rolling in his grave" due to Rachel's existence, according to his son). Things don't exist in a vacuum and we can't ignore the bad parts.

How We Got Here:

The thing that everyone is missing is the source of this campaign. This started in September of 2020 when transphobic actor Gina Carano made fun of trans people by changing her pronouns to beep/bop.boop. Rachel indirectly called her out by coming to the defense of the trans community.

She never called out Gina by name (though she rightfully could have). Mind you, Rachel's first film hadn't come out yet. Nobody knew who she was outside of those of us who were anticipating West Side Story and were fans of her covers on YouTube. She was a "nobody" in the industry. Take this part with a grain of salt because I can't confirm it, but Gina and her fans directly blame Rachel for her being banned from Twitter. Again, I really don't think that matters as she's harmful to the trans community and shouldn't have a platform. What does matter is that fans of Gina (which, let's be real, are just fans of transphobia) have been stalking Rachel's every move since then. Unfortunately for them, there wasn't much they could use against her other than to call her woke and #snowbrown when she was cast a year later as the Disney princess. The noise has always been there, but unless you were a fan of hers, you probably didn't hear about it. It wasn't until two years after this that they had something else against her.

If you've recently seen a video of Rachel crying circulating that claims to be her reaction to the recent Snow White backlash, it's an old video. It's from a vlog from her youtube channel posted in June 2022. It was in response to these exact same transphobic anti-woke conservatives who thought that they had something when she did an interview on the red carpet of the Shazam premiere. When asked why she joined the DC universe, she responded "I needed a job." It was generally well received by most people who thought it was cute and funny, but those who were waiting in the shadows latched onto it as an excuse to send her death threats.

The video was also about a month after she was invited to present at the 2022 Oscars and was made to seem like she bullied the Academy (as a no name newcomer, mind you) into letting her attend. In reality, a fan left a comment on her Instagram asking what she was wearing to the event. She responded that she wasn't invited but would be rooting for everyone from her couch in her boyfriend's pajamas. It was the public who demanded she get an invite and the Oscar's must have agreed that it was very odd that the lead actress of a film that was nominated for Best Film wouldn't get an invite. Whether it was an oversight on their part or a scheduling issue with Rachel's filming, I truly think there was no malicious intent from either party. Keep in mind, she used to be very active with her fans (she's a huge fangirl of things herself and has always had a strong relationship with her fans) and she wasn't used to her comments becoming articles and national tv segments. This was the first time it happened to her. It appears she learned that she's not just a girl who posts on YouTube anymore and she's going to be put under a microscope for every move she makes. She has since shut down her Instagram comments and rarely interacts with fans outside of liking comments these days because of this.

I know this is long, but I need people to understand where this is all coming from. It didn't just happen out of nowhere. It's an orchestrated campaign built by violent conservatives, and thousands of women who saw Barbie this summer are hopping on the bandwagon to beat another woman into submission because they have a lot of internalized misogyny to deal with. She's not smug, you just hate women. It's okay to find people annoying, but it's valuable to look into why you think that. If you see a confident young woman expressing views that don't actually harm anyone and you think she needs to be "humbled" and "put in her place" by the entire internet dogpiling her, you've lost your mind. Using "body language experts" (fake job) to diagnose her as a psychopath is so vile. Everytime someone mentions her name online, the comments beneath it are full of the most violent, misogynistic, racist things I've ever seen. If you're contributing to that, you've chosen your side. Reevaluate or seek help.

I'm tired of seeing this happen to young women. We let this happen to Jennifer Lawrence, Brie Larson, Millie Bobby Brown, Halle Bailey, and Jenna Ortega. It's one thing to call out celebrities and hold them accountable when they're doing something actively harmful, but that's not what this is about. That's never been what this is about. We pick these girls to pieces and examine them and pull them apart to justify our hatred of young women who rise to success too quickly for our liking. We dogpile and try to stamp out the flame before they burn too bright. Barbie is still in theaters and you all loved it, yet you're demanding that a bright girl with a big future be small and submissive and humbled because you have issues. That's not feminism. You're just the girls who would have bullied Weird Barbie for using her hands too much when she talks.

[gch1995]

The same can be said about Belle from the 1991 Disney Beauty and the Beast animated classic. Yes, she fell in love with the Beast/Prince Adam, but she never stopped having her own aspirations, beliefs, interests, and goals. She never let the Beast get away with taking over her entire life. He had to become more deserving of he by learning to be kinder before she even was willing to interact with him.

Even Ariel’s story in 1989 Disney animated version of The Little Mermaid, wasn’t really about falling in love with a guy she saw once, and throwing away her whole life for him. It was about a 16 year old girl escaping an emotionally abusive father, and finding the ability and freedom to explore something she loved. No, I’m not saying that Triton was a malicious sort of abuser who ever intended for Ariel to get hurt. I’m not saying he didn’t love his daughter, but he was unreasonably restrictive and exceedingly cruel in his intolerance towards his daughter’s fascination with the human world above, which helped drive Ariel away. was too selfish in his pain and fear to open his mind.

Ariel was obsessed with the human world before she ever even saw Eric. He just happened to be an outlet for Ariel to turn her dreams of exploring the world above into a reality, and she fell for him. It still didn’t stop her from saving Eric’s life three times, stop her from saving Flounder’s life from the shark attack at the beginning, or stop her from standing up for what she believed in.

I’m really tired of this trend throughout the 2010s-2020s of fictional writers portraying women as these amazingly strong™️ girl bosses, who don’t ever desire and/or need to rely on anyone else for family, friendship, love, and/or support, especially not if it’s from a man. I get that it’s unhealthy to be so codependent and needy that you refuse to have any sort of independent life and/or interests of your own all the time, but the opposite extreme is also just as unhealthy. People are social creatures with limitations and weaknesses, who also do naturally seek out close family, friendship, love, and support from others to depend upon to an extent too because we instinctively know we can’t be perfectly capable, independent, and strong all the time either.

The princesses and other heroines from the animated Disney adaptations of these fairytales were never poor role models of strength and independence for young women. They felt more like real people, rather than impossibly perfect and, frankly, sexist, dark fantasy archetypes of strong™️ women written by misogynistic men in Hollywood who likely have no appreciation for real women, though.

The weird thing about Rachel Zegler playing Snow White, isn't her not being white. It's her talking as if she hates the older thing.

Also, someone please tell her (and Gal Gadot who also missed the memo) that falling in love doesn't make you any less of a powerful woman. Mulan fell in love, Tiana fell in love, Esmeralda fell in love. And they are feminist icons.

[ilovescaredysquirrel2]

Spellbound is NOT a bad movie, y'all just mean 😒

I hate John Lasseter as much as the next person but he just helped produce the movie, he didn't MAKE it himself. Also, this is a creative movie with an original idea, unlike Toy Story which is a Raggedy Ann knock off. Quit calling Spellbound a knock off of Disney musicals, just because it's an animated musical! It's NOT a knock off and it's not bad either. It's a beautiful story about how broken families can cause trauma for children and I can't expect so much heart and beauty from Disney nowadays. Disney went downhill after Elemental...

The songs were pretty cute, the one song was a little stupid but the majority of the songs were good. It wasn't as amazing as The Wild Robot, but it was still pretty cute. Like, not everything has to be amazing to be good! It had a beautiful story with a lot of symbolism to family trauma and growing up, plus the designs were really creative as well. It took place in a fantasy world and the designs they did for the creatures were really cute and creative. I also love that they tried their best to show diversity, despite it being a fantasy world (like different skin colors and everything, and no characters are stereotyped). I also like how they showed different body types and none of the characters are sexualized in any way. Apparently Princess Ellian, the main character, was supposed to be 15, and I thought she was 11 or 12 at first. To be honest, I like that they made her look younger for her age, it makes me feel better about myself (I'm an early bloomer who stopped aging LOL). It's not unrealistic expectations like how Disney designs some of the princesses.

The story is great, the music is okay, and I think this movie deserves a little better. Also, I don't wanna completely hate on Rachel Zegler either. Yeah, she seems stuck up and even though I agree with some things she said about that old Snow white movie, I also think she went to far and was disrespectful. I don't think she's ugly or talentless like a lot of other people say about her, she just doesn't fit for the role of Snow White. Even if you're outraged over her disrespecting an outdated Disney movie from your childhood or whatever, she is talented and pretty. Don't be too mean! I'm not really a fan of Rachel Zegler, I'm just saying that she did very good in this movie!

Anyway, tell me what you think! If you disagree, please let me know! If you're gonna hate on it before watching Spellbound, watch it and then tell me what you think!

[itsbansheebitch]

Live Action Snow White

I hate how this could have been down WELL if Disney cared.

- Have actors with Dwarfism act as the Dwarves + consult experts and people w/ dwarfism on avoiding stereotypes and showing them as actual people.

- If you want a non-white Snow White, go for East Asia, specifically Japan, since there's some Japanese culture you could reference in regards to 'hair dark as night." Like the book In Praise of Shadows, you could have subtle nods to Japanese Aestheticism. (Although Rachel Z LITERALLY looks like a real life Disney Princess. If she's Snow White, they should have leaned into her Colombian + Polish background).

- Hell, if you want someone who isn't white or East Asian, you could get an actress with albinism or even vitiligo (would look a bit like snow?). That would be really cool, actually.

- You could make some interesting references to Japanese history and fashion. Like Kanzashi sticks as hair accessories AND weapons. They were sometimes used to fend off attacks & assassinate political rivals. Some Kanzashi has bells hanging from them that jingle in the wind. That would explain why the Prince would find her in the woods. I feel like we'd all be confused about hearing bells in the middle of nowhere lol.

- You could go with practical effects and actually make everything look magical. and REAL. NO CURSED POLAR EXPRESS CGI DWARVES PLEASE AND THANK YOU!!!

I hate that Disney is doing cheap rage bait and are happy to throw her to the wolves. They KNEW what would happen. They're just trying to start shit at this point.

Also people saying that Gal Godot is prettier than Rachel Zegler so she has no reason to be jealous haven't watched the original Snow White film. Not to mention Gal Godot sure is RACIST enough to be jealous of biracial woman's looks.

[princesssarisa]

I have just as many doubts about Disney's live action Snow White as anyone else. But can people please stop calling Rachel Zegler "ugly"?

Yes, the hairstyle is unflattering. No, her face isn't a perfect model of classic Hollywood beauty. Yes, it is a stretch to expect us to view her as more beautiful than Gal Gadot. But she's certainly not ugly! She's very pretty!

Of course Snow White is supposed to be much more than "very pretty": she's supposed to be the most beautiful lady in all the land. That's a tall order for any actress and I'm sure none would satisfy every viewer. Although knowing Disney, I'm sure they'll try to make the script more politically correct than the original and state that Snow White's inner beauty is what makes her the fairest, or something like that.

But she's still not ugly!

I don't want to say "You're just being racist," but... I can't help but wonder how much of a factor race is in these comments.

Of all the live action Disney Princesses, the only other one whom I've seen called "ugly" on social media is Halle Bailey as Ariel.

Lily James isn't a flawless classic beauty like the 1950 animated Cinderella; not with her broad face and prominent front teeth. But I don't remember anyone ever calling her ugly! Nor is Emma Watson's beauty the soft, classically feminine beauty of the animated Belle; her features are more angular and can look almost boyish at times. But I've never heard anyone call her ugly!

Doesn't it seem suspicious that people should pull out the "ugly" card for Halle's Ariel and Rachel's Snow White, yet not for the white girls?

[rogue205]

Oh my god. What is with Disney these days? No one wants a “woke” Princess and it’s like they don’t even understand the word anyway.

Pixar does because look at Merida. She still got help from “a man” even if they were her little brothers. It was still “female empowerment” because her mother is actually the one who killed the bad guy anyway and it was because he was about to kill Merida. It wasn’t just “women strong!”. Hell, Merida refuses to get married and actually ends the movie that way but she never comes across as “ew, men” but that she simply doesn’t want to. I can relate.

But back to Disney. They changed Little Mermaid so Ariel literally did EVERYTHING including killing Ursula despite the fact that she shouldn’t even know how to drive a damn ship. 🙄 There was nothing wrong with Eric doing it!

And now we’re getting “woke” Snow White who is named as such because her skin is WHITE AS SNOW! But noooooo… she has to be a person of color too so Disney can have lazy writing and call everyone racist when we call them out on this BS. POC are just shields for them now although Rachel Zegler tried to accuse everyone of hate already. Lady, that’s not going to get people to see your point. And frankly, it’s not even about her. It’s about Disney and what they’re doing.

Also they’re apparently planning to change the Prince coming in to wake her up at the end. Like, what? And most of the seven dwarves are gone too. I think there’s only one now while the others are “normal”. They thought(and Zegler said) that the Prince was “acting stalker-ish” so that’s why they wanted to change him. Hah. They clearly didn’t watch “Once Upon a Time”. Now THAT is a live-action Snow White.

Plus there is a “deleted scene” comic which explains how the Prince even knew to come looking for Snow White. He was captured and locked up by the Evil Queen and witnessed her transform into the hag and poison the apple. He immediately went to find Snow when he managed to escape. All the live-action had to do was include something like this and then he isn’t “stalkerish”. 🙄

Frankly, their movie is not even Snow White anymore and I can tell already that it’s going to flop with all these unneeded and unnecessary changes. All it shares in common now is the name. Nothing else.

This is just my opinion. You don’t have to agree.