#the Cuban missle crisis

[ambriel-angstwitch]

Let’s talk about the (fictional) historical and political implications of Pixar’s Incredibles.

I did a post on this before a year ago but I just watched it again and found even more stuff to talk about.

So for those of you that don’t know Incredibles is set in the year 1962 which granted Disney might have done purely for aesthetics but the implications that could have are insane.

To start off Super Powers

All of the characters we see with Super powers (other than of course the children) are of an age where they could have enlisted in the army for World War II.

Now this makes me wonder if superhero’s were made by the government for the war. (A la Captain America)

Another thing that might back up supersoldiers initially being super soldiers is the fact that Syndrome seems to be surprised that they made super babies.

He didn’t hunt down any other supers kids despite the fact that he’s hunting all supers.

Which means he probably didn’t know they’d be super. All evidence leads to the belief that Helen and Bobs generation were the first super generation. So he wasn’t aware that the super trait could pass down.

(You may say oh incredibles 2 had people of all ages! I say Pixar forgets its own storyline so it doesn’t factor into my theory. If syndrome hunted down the supers why are there still supers? Because Pixar wants to make money with no regard to lore that’s why)

And even if the supers aren’t government created you would assume that the government would still take advantage of them in war time.

Like how would having these super soldiers affect the war? Do all the countries have supers?

Second Topic is Syndrome canonically makes his money by making weapons and selling them.

Which means Syndrome was most likely helping both sides of the Cold War.

Not only that the story is set in 1962

1962 and weapons?

Is that ringing any bells?

Well it should because that’s the Cuban Missle crisis.

Did syndrome partially cause the Cuban missle crises in this universe?

He probably at least contributed to it because he’s making the missles

Then on top of that this guy is making space ships so he might have even been helping countries with the space race.

[wishchip106]

Area man experiences love for the first time since early childhood.

imagine feeling like a monster for most of your life and then one day this guy comes along and tells you you’re not alone and that there is good inside you.

one day Erik was filled with rage and grief, seeking vengeance for the life that was taken from his mother, feeling like this is who he is and that it doesn’t matter if he dies

and then the next, he’s being pulled out of the ocean by a stranger showing all kinds of compassion, love, and empathy.

he was completely ready to drown himself before Charles saved him

Charles was likely the first person Erik trusted after those eighteen years by himself

he was the one to suggest going on a however long roadtrip with this guy he just met to recruit mutants for a cause he wasn’t even interested in

all he cared about was killing Schmidt, he had the files on him that the CIA had. Yet he still stays

Why you may ask? BECAUSE CHARLES ASKED HIM TOO

“Shaw’s got friends, you could do with some.”

and then over the roadtrip Erik grew to love and trust Charles, finding comfort in the fact that there is someone like him and that there might still possibly be a way someone can love him.

and then blah blah blah rest of the movie happens until we get to Erik asking Charles to shoot him and then trying to move the satellite

when he fails, Charles asks if he can use his telepathy and Erik agrees immediately, he doesn’t even know what he meant he just trusts Charles that much.

Charles shows Erik the memory of his mother and tells him true power lies in the balance of rage and serenity (that can be read as Erik and Charles being together)

once Erik does move the satellite, Charles tells him that he’s not the monster he’s always thought himself to be but that there is love inside of him

and then proceed to them kissing and Moira never interrupted and they lived happily ever after the end (no beach divorce here 😁)

man 🙁 these guys honestly 😔

[fuddlyduddly]

this will be entering my permanent lexicon i fear

[diablo1776]

Clayton Morris - Redacted News

If you have 10 minutes, it's worth the watch. Shit is about to get interesting on our soil very soon.

[likehephaestionwhodied]

If your shift manager said "I avoided that crisis so well you could call me Jack Kennedy" would you laugh? Also would you think said manager handled the situation well or poorly?

[orc-boar-dyke]

Do u think that during the Cuban Missle Crisis when Krushchev asked Kennedy if the plane he shot down was a spy plane, Kennedy responded yes, threw his phone and buried his face in his pillow?

[themightyfoo]

62 years ago today was the closest the world has ever come to global thermonuclear war when the US Strategic Air Command went to DEFCON-2 for the first and only time

October 14, 1962: The Cuban Missile Crisis begins.

One of the defining and tensest moments of the Cold War, “the ultimate exercise in nuclear brinkmanship”, began on this day in 1962, when an American U-2 aircraft obtained images of Soviet nuclear missile installations in Cuba. By placing missiles a mere hundred miles or so off the shores of the United States, the Soviets hoped to counter any American attempts to oust the communist regime in Cuba and play out its role as a leader against Western imperialism; however, the move was also one that Khrushchev stated “would equalize what the West likes to call ‘the balance of power’”. Some - including President Kennedy - interpreted Khrushchev’s challenge as a prelude to a planned Soviet takeover of West Berlin. 

After much deliberation and considering options ranging from nothing to full-scale invasion, the U.S. decided to “quarantine“ Cuba through a naval blockade, also warning that it would "regard any nuclear missile launched from Cuba against any nation in the Western Hemisphere as an attack by the Soviet Union on the United States, requiring a full retaliatory response upon the Soviet Union”. At the same time, an ExComm memorandum noted that the presence of these missiles on Cuba did not significantly upset the pre-existing balance of power. In an interview conducted 25 years later, Robert McNamara stated that U.S. demands that the missiles be removed were politically, not militarily, motivated. The crisis and diplomatic stalemate continued over the following weeks. On October 26, the Strategic Air Command was ordered to DEFCON-2: the alert state signifying a hyper-alert state of military readiness preceding possible nuclear war. DEFCON-2 had never before been ordered, and was thereafter never ordered again, reflecting the widely-held belief that the Cuban Missile Crisis was the highest point of tension between the United States and the Soviet during the Cold War, and that for two weeks, the world sat on the brink of nuclear war. 

That situation of worldwide catastrophe was avoided through accords that involved the removal of Soviet missiles from Cuba, the removal of American missiles from Turkey and Italy, and an American guarantee to respect Cuba’s territorial sovereignty.

[bargainsleuthbooks]

The Shadow of War: A Novel of the Cuban Missile Crisis by Jeff Shaara #BookReview #ARC #NetGalley #JFK #RFK

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[charlesoberonn]

Cuban Missle Crisis... 2!

[chicago-geniza]

Just read a stunning fanfic summary that I can only paraphrase as "alternate timeline where the Cuban missle crisis wasn't averted but radiation from the nuclear bomb made A/B/O biology real"

[triviallytrue]

idk maybe this is actually a really common view but. to me i feel like espionage between The Big Empires is just unironically good. both sides need to know the other isn't gonna pull some crazy fuckshit. the closest we've gotten to really bad things happening (see: Cuban Missle Crisis) seem like they were inflamed significantly by not knowing what the fuck was going on.

[dreamofstarlight]

I don't mean to be rude here. But it frustrates me that Marilyn Monroe's fans blamed John and Bobby for her death. I'm sorry, but I have a huge gut feeling they have nothing to do with that. I think Monroe's fans are just blaming anyone about what happened to Marilyn. I'm pretty sure JFK and RFK had too many things in their hands. The very least thing they should be worried about was Marilyn. These guys were dealing with Bay of pigs, Vietnam, Civil Rights, and the Cuban Missle Crisis. Why would John and Rob wanted to unalive her? If these fans use their common sense. Don't you think it is odd she died in 62 and the following year John's assassination and then a few years later RFK died? Rob and John definitely were not involved with Monroe's death even if she did get murdered. Sorry for the long rant, I try not to become a conspiracy theorist, but something wasn't adding up back in the 60s. Also these authors milking Marilyn Monroe and The Kennedys need to stop. They are adding a lot of oil into the fire. I don't buy these stories whatsoever because they weren't there to even know Monroe as a person and that goes the same for the Kennedys family.

You're not rude at all and I agree completely! I've made it known that I have doubts about how involved JFK and Marilyn were with each other and if they had the long winded affair that has been reported. Those that are considered knowledgable on marilyn's life and career have said that the conspiracy theory that jack and bobby had any involvement in her death is incorrect and there's little to no basis to it. The 60s were a crazy time and there was a lot of turmoil, I'm not someone who necessarily subscribes to any conspiracy theories around those who were killed because it was really just a very intense time especially with things changing socially and politically.

[peonycats]

What's your interpretation of Cuba's and America's relationship pre-missle crisis since they were probably on good terms after the Spanish America war

Oh they weren’t on good terms after the Spanish American War bahaha (or to put it another way, it’s complicated)

Carlos and Alfred were definitely aware of each other from a fairly early point in their history. Lots of illegal trade took place between the southern colonies then states and the Cubans, and many of the first advocates for Cuba leaving the Spanish Empire proposed American annexation as the alternative. This was somewhat reciprocated, as the American Founding Fathers frequently kicked around the idea of annexing the US and there were several attempts by the Americans to buy Cuba from Spain, though always turned down. However, there were also voices in the Cuba independence movement who were against US annexation and were heavily critical of any humanitarian reasons the us purported to have in annexing Cuba, most notably José Martí. Additionally, the Cuban exile community in the US played an outsized impact in both the struggle for Cuban independence and Cuban-American ties and many of them would go on to help organize rebellions.

I'm not entirely certain of their personal relationship at this time but I don't really think Carlos lived abroad in the US for an extended period of time. After the loss of the mainland South American colonies (esp Mexico), Cuba became the replacement treasure of the empire and thus, was all the more tightly controlled and ruled. Maybe Alfred and Carlos weren't friends (if anything, Carlos is probably more likely to have closer relationships with the southern United States, especially Florida), but they were probably on amicable terms.

Following the Spanish American war and the several on and off Cuban struggles for independence, Carlos had been put through the wringer after years and years of Spanish crushing of Cuban rebels, and the resulting scrutiny and burden that Cuban civilians had been placed under due to many of them providing support to the rebels. It would be undeniable that Carlos would react to Alfred helping to finally bring the conflict to the end with relief, but I also think he reacted to Alfred's entrance with some bittersweetness- the Cubans had spent three years fighting tooth and nail, and in three weeks, Alfred and the Rough Riders had finished the whole shebang and basically stolen the entire show. This was no longer about the Cubans' long struggle for freedom, this was about America's first step onto the world stage as a global power ⭐

The initial promise of the throwing off of Spanish power and America's rise Carlos saw was soon replaced with the more disappointing reality. The sentiment that only the name of the regime had changed was certainly something he felt, and there was an unmistakable racial lens to the relationship between Alfred, a white passing man, and Carlos, someone visibly not white, and how the former treated the latter. Most of the US regime's dealings were done through the Cuban exile community, US-educated white Cubans already familiar with US culture, and US rule effectively shut out Afro-Cubans from politics. For the black independence fighters who had fought for years for a racially equitable Cuba, this was disappointing, to put it lightly.

The disillusionment was not one sided, as Alfred was likely annoyed at how expensive Carlos was being and how not sufficiently grateful he was for liberating him from Spain. This was only further solidified when American rule was far more short-lived than he expected, as Cubans voted for the independence-minded parties in the subsequent elections. Then when Alfred proceeded to finagle and gaslight his way into justifying why actually, Cuba, still needed him and thus, the creation of the Platt Amendment and consequent strong arming Cuban legislators to adopt that into the constitution. Needless to say, neither were on good terms.

[diablo1776]

Cuban missle crisis part 2

[manjaro-official]

this is my son kafkaesque Orwellian animalfarm the third I make sure he watches nothing but Ted Ed videos and John oliver funniest moments. yesterday a kid asked him to play freeze tag and he said 'Israel Hamas war Ruth bader ginsburg vladimir lenin Cuban missle crisis'. we come from one of the wealthiest families in eastern Europe and someday he will grow up to be the leader of the local Diversity Board just like me

[solanuma]

what the fuck the x-men movie i was seeing an endless amount of yaoi of here on tumblr for like a decade straight is about the cuban missle crisis???