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expandable list of my favourite dialogue tags/descriptors
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makes me a little sad when star trek ignores IDIC. like. vulcans are logical. that is true. But 'logical', for vulcans, does not amount to 'without compassion,' and it definitely doesn't amount to 'racial superiority.' Belief in 'infinite diversity in infinite combinations' should NOT result in the weird racist/speciest stuff we're getting in some of the newer treks. It does make sense that some vulcans are discriminatory. They're still flawed. But that should not be common or expected, like it seems to be in SNW. If it is, then it's a race of hypocrites, which. doesn't seem very true to Star Trek's message.
I think TOS Spock does a pretty good job of embodying this. Not always, it was the 60s, after all, but mostly. He was often trying to find non-violent routes, and get by without killing - even if they were in danger or had already been attacked. (See: the mugato, and the horta (until Kirk was the one in danger, lmao. t'hy'la > IDIC), the Gorn ship). Kirk, in his eulogy, calls him the most human soul he's ever known, and I've always read that as Kirk calling out Spock's overwhelming compassion.
It's just so much more interesting when Vulcans get to be radically compassionate. I want them to believe that everything and everyone has value. I want them to respect all ways of being. I want them to find ways for even very non-humanoid aliens to exist unfettered in society. I want them to see hybrids and think that it's amazing. Also, like, disability rep. I want Vulcans to have The Most Accessible Planet and available resources because they want everyone to feel accepted and valued. It makes for better characters and more interesting stories.
#tbh feels like some weird racist/misogynistic enlightenment-era philosophy coming through when they do that. y'know?#like 'oooh if you're fully logical you're BETTER than those who have EMOTIONS like WOMEN do'.#and the paramount execs are eating it up like 'yesss logic means being an ASS to people LESS LOGICAL than you!'.#like really guys. c'mon#like it makes sense in TAS that spock would get bullied by some kids. kids bully. that's common. makes sense that even vulcan kids bully#but if ADULTS are OFTEN doubting spock because he's half-human? that just kinda sucks. if i may it's even illogical#IDIC for me but not for thee type thing.#i think that being discriminatory should be a source of shame on a vulcan's house.#i think vulcans should adore learning about other cultures#star trek#vulcan#star trek vulcan#vulcans#vulcan culture#spock#star trek tos#tos#star trek the original series#sorry for my lack of mention of other major vulcan characters. I am so so behind in my star trek watching.#from what i've heard tuvok is also a good example. i know next to nothing about t'pol so couldn't say for her.
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troubles that come with tribbles...
(aka a good excuse to draw one of my fav episodes and fav crew members while coming back from a heavy week at uni ;D)
#churro art#my art#digital art#illustration#fanart#star trek#star trek tos#star trek the original series#james kirk#james t kirk#jim kirk#spock#s'chn t'gai spock#nyota uhura#tribbles#AHHH I LOVE HOW THIS ONE CAME OUTTTT#IT CAME OUT SO SMOOTH AND CLEAN AND IDK I JUST LOVE HOW THESE 3 LOOK HERE!!! :d#okay quick honest moment: uni has been HEAVY this past... jeez 2 weeks?#so ive been a bit burnt out and riddled with headaches#not to mention barely any time to indulge in star trek SOBS T_T#but its okay!! im really enjoying my time in class and with my peers; i have some real awesome professors!! just... so much homework LMAO#anyways this past week ive barely drawn its kinda killing me...#but i started this yesterday as a sketch and just took the first half of today to draw this out and gosh im so in love with how it looks!!#helped a lot as a warmup AND a brain break LOL#u know me if i have the chance to draw uhura im GONNA TAKE ITTTT shes such a cutie#also can i just say that the green uniform shirt LOOKS SO GOOD ON KIRK I LOVEEE ITTT i cant believe ive barely drawn him in it ...
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Here’s a little GIF of Bones and Spock going up to Kirk in the third episode of tos
#Star Trek#star trek tos#tos#tos bones#leonard bones mccoy#leonard mccoy#tos spock#spock#tos kirk#james kirk#tos uhura#she’s in the background and always deserves a mention#star trek gif#gif#t0ast post
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Give meee: an Eddie who went into a small little bookshop on an Indie trip and stumbled across an in person fandom meeting.
It's mostly Star Trek, and also mostly women, but the stories they have are nothing like Eddie's ever read.
He's barely a teenager, and already protective of himself and his real identity--but everything he's ever wanted is written down, right here, on a little zine with Kirk and Spock doodled on the cover.
They’re not--it’s not obvious, that they’re what he is, but the story itself is blatant and Eddie ends up being so obviously close to tears, he accidentally outs himself without ever saying a word.
(He also ends up on the mailing list, then being sent home with several hand printed copies of all kinds of zines.)
Eddie would remain on this list well past his third senior year in high school.
Past bats, and Vecna and Steve fucking Harrington.
Flash forward to his first apartment.The tiny one he shares with Steve when they followed Nancy and Robin to college.
Steve knows Eddie’s gay.
Or rather, Steve has been told, but Eddie's still pretty clammed up about it. He's not yet where Robin is, ready to bemoan her loveless existence while draped over their crappy, thrifted couch.
He makes jokes and he flirts and he absolutely says things he shouldn't, but none of it is real.
It's flash. Showmanship.
It's the persona that yes, is him, but Eddie consciously built it. There’s nothing soft or gooey there, nothing anyone can use to hurt him.
So when he comes home and sees that plain, padded envelope with the neatly printed label on the counter, torn wide open and flat without its contents?
Eddie panics.
His heart thunders in his chest, vision tunneling as adrenaline kicks through him.
He wants to bolt-- should bolt--except ever since he almost died his brain no longer obeys him.
Not when it comes to running, anyway.
Instead it fights him to a standstill, freezing his feet right to the living room floor.
The urge is still there.
To run, and save face the cowards way.
Vanish before Steve could get at a part of him that had once kept Eddie out of Wayne’s trailer for two days, until the old man had hunted him down and made him come home, huffing about how he’d love Eddie no matter what but he better never disappear like that again.
(Which Eddie did anyway, and of everything that happened with Vecna, it’s that he regrets the most. The stories he heard of Wayne putting up posters. Squaring off with angry, too-righteous townies, and--)
A sniffle jerks him out of his thoughts.
Eddie gasps, entirely unsure of when he stopped breathing. Stumbles back and turns, right in time for Steve to come out of his room and amble down their hallway.
One hand rubs at his eyes, and the other is--the other has…
Eddie identifies the cheaply printed, stapled zine immediately. It's one he's wanted to read for a while now, solely because it features a story about Kirk and Spock being stuck in a cave together on a planet that has bat-like, vicious animals on it.
Kirk gets bitten after something goes wrong with the transporter and, look, it’s carthiatic okay!? Sue a guy for wanting to read a romance about a situation he identifies with!
Steve looks up from the zine and startles.
For a second his eyes go dark and flat, the same way Eddies and Robins and Nancy's and everyone's does when caught off guard.
It's gone in a flash though, Steve visibly relaxing when he clocks that it's just Eddie.
He keeps the zine pressed to his sweater clad chest, and huffs out a laugh that's half forced and half pure relief.
“Fuck Eds, you scared me! I didn’t know you could be quiet.”
“Uh huh.” Eddie manages, voice sounding totally and absolutely normal and not at all ten octaves higher than it usually is.
They stare at each other for a second. Long enough that Steve's eyebrows crinkle in the middle, which is the first hint that he’s beginning to worry, and Eddie really cannot handle Steve being worried right now.
“What's--” Eddie’s voice cracks and he coughs to recover. “what's that?”
Steve frowns at him for a moment, until Eddie gestures at the zine in his hands.
“Oh!”
Steve holds it up, as if to show it off.
“It's a little book Robin got in the mail. It has a bunch of stories in it. They're normally boring as fuck but this one's from Star Trek.”
Hearing the words ‘Star Trek’ out of Steve’s mouth shouldn’t be weird, not anymore, when Eddie and Dustin have been on a two man mission to nerdify Harrington as much as possible, but it still kicks like a mule to hear him say such things without any prompting.
“You know what Star Trek is?”
“Eddie,” Steve tuts, tongue clicking in his mouth. “everyone knows what Star Trek is. It’s nerd shit, but like, old nerd shit. My grandparents used to watch it when I stayed over. This?”
He shakes the zine, so hard Eddie wants to snatch it away from him.
“This isn't nerd shit. This is excellent.”
Steve gives the zine an appreciative glance and hell, maybe Eddie accidentally walked into another dimension.
He’s been trying to get Steve to read more, rediscover the joys of books the public school system does its best to destroy, but until now Steve hasn’t really taken to it.
Enjoys when Eddie reads aloud sometimes, and has started to bug Robin to do it for him too, but otherwise?
Eddie’s nerve seen him with anything that had the written word on it that wasn’t a cooking or car related magazine.
“Honestly,” Steve’s saying, “I think Robs fucked up, this isn't her style at all. She’s gonna be pissed.”
He eyes the thing appreciatively, like the gift it is.
“I'm stealing it the second she figures that out.” He adds decisively.
“You like it?” Eddie asks.
“Mmm.”
“Even though it's--it's got…Kirk…”
Steve's frowning at him again. “What?”
“It's queer man. It's really queer.”
Steve peers at him, the crinkle back in his eyebrows.
“I know. Wait, how do you--”
And well. It’s now or never.
“It's mine.” Eddie says in a rush.
“No it's not.” Steve scoffs, and okay, maybe this is a dream. Eddie pinched himself twice already, but perhaps a third time would wake him up?
(It does not.)
“it was even addressed to Robin. Well,” Steve has one hand on a hip now, his default position when arguing, “Robbie, but she goes by that sometimes.”
Which Robin does, but not in the fucking mail.
Without a word, Eddie turns and goes for the envelope the zine came in.
Steve follows, invading Eddie’s space to peer over his shoulder (and that’s Eddie’s fault too, that closeness, but he didn’t think it would be turned on him in a moment like this--)
There's a sticker on the envelope’s label.
It’s barely hanging on, half of it curled into the air. Round and yellow, with little black lines, it becomes immediately obvious that one of Robin's smiley face stickers has migrated again.
They're all over the apartment. Remnants of a phase she went through after she stole a roll of them from her and Steve’s job at a local toy store.
This one had clearly jumped ship from its original spot (likely on the ceiling somewhere), and was now firmly over the E in Eddie's name.
‘Ddie’ still isn't exactly ‘Obbie’ but--
Steve leans around, snatching the envelope up and bringing it close to his face.
Far too close, like he can't read it, eyes squinting as he examines the label--and suddenly Eddie knows exactly what happened.
He laughs, an explosion of noise that's half hysterical and half disbelief.
Steve looks at him.
“What?”
“Oh my God,” Eddie says, one finger jabbing in the air in the vague direction of Steve’s nose. “I told you you needed glasses!”
“I do not!” Steve protests immediately, but his eyes are darting around the envelope.
He’s scrambling to figure out what Eddie’s seeing, trying desperately to find a hole that can prove himself right.
Eddie decides to help him, by plucking the smiley sticker off the envelope.
“See?” He jeers, and shit okay, maybe his life isn’t over just yet. “It says Eddie, not Robbie!”
“You guys have got to start using your government names for this shit.” Steve bitches, but it’s weak.
Eddie feels a grin coming on, and lets it overtake his face.
“So...Kirk and Spock huh?”
“They’re cute.” Steve defends instantly, before sighing his defeat and tossing the envelope on the table.
The zine he keeps in his hands.
Eddie crosses his arms and leans against their rickety table. “Even though they’re both guys?”
“I thought we were past this!” Steve whines. “I went to a gay bar with Robin last weekend!”
Which is news to Eddie.
“You didn’t invite me?” He gasps, feigning hurt by putting a hand over his heart.
Truthfully he still hasn’t fully recovered--is play acting himself, almost, but is rapidly coming around to the idea of Steve appreciating queer fanfiction.
“We did!” Steve rolls his eyes so dramatically his whole head moves. “We absolutely did, You said,”
Here Steve’s voice pitches into a mockery of Eddie’s that he will not give him points for, even if it is a little hilarious, “Me? At some loser bar? Fuck no, I’ve got a campaign to write. Starbuck, don’t you have homework?”
“I didn’t know that was a gay bar!”
“You did! Robin told you!”
“Okay well, I wasn’t listening!”
“Clearly. I keep telling you we need a fucking--system or, I don’t know, a code word or something!”
“Yeah well, when you wanna make us a safe word for conversations, big boy, you let me know.”
They’re both laughing a little now, this argument veering into familiar territory, with Eddie not really listening and Steve mocking him for it later. (As well as vice versa, with startling regularity.)
“You really like it though?” Eddie says after the laughter winds down, gesturing to the zine still clutched in Steve’s hand.
“Yeah.” Steve confirms, easy as he’s said anything else. Like this isn’t embarrassing, or almost worse than the time Wayne found Eddie’s porno mags and alphabetized them as a joke.
“It's part of a mail tree. I’m supposed to send it on to the next person when I’m done with it. I make copies though,” Eddie rushes to add, because Steve is now clutching the little booklet to his chest in horror, as if Eddie was about to rip it out of his hands. “If you like I’ll show you my other ones?”
Steve eases his grip, giving Eddie the little smile he makes that makes his stomach flip.
“That’d be cool.”
(Later, Steve pokes at Eddie’s thigh from where they’re both sprawled on Eddie’s bed, Steve having switched the new zine out for one of Eddie’s copies. “Are you going to laugh at me if I ask you to read some of these aloud?”
“Only if you don’t laugh when I ask you to take me to that gay bar.”
“Deal, but on the grounds you’re barred from making fun of my flirting attempts. Robin doing it was bad enough.”
“Well you deserve it if you’re hitting on women at a gay bar, Stevie.”
“I wasn't hitting on women you asshole.” Steve says and oh.
Oh.
Eddie feels the floor drop out from under him for the second time that day.
At least this time it’s not fear that thunders through him, but possibility.)
#steddie#pre steddie#eddie reads star trek slash fiction#kirk/spock#mentioned anyway lol#Steve Harringtons Terrible Fucking Eyesight#(me too buddy me too)#steve harrington#eddie munson#zines#0o0 fanfics#stranger things
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Barry Trivers and Gerd Oswald dropping “The Conscience of the King” on December 8th of 1966, only to never elaborate on Tarsus IV and Kirk’s past there
#I can’t believe they never elaborated or mentioned that ever again#common it’s a film ready to be made#the POSSIBILITIES#also hats off to all the ff writers who took it was their job to elaborate on that#I love you all#tarsus iv#star trek#james t kirk#star trek tos#tos spock#tos spirk#tos#spock#star trek the original series#the original series#Kirk#the conscience of the king#kevin riley
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They're the same picture
#star trek#star trek tos#spock#jim kirk#leonard mccoy#captain kirk#bones mccoy#doctor m'benga#m'benga#cat memes#jim is an orange cat#cw weight mention
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in terms of plotline trends i have noticed while rewatching tos
90% of season one: kirk saves the day with help from good friend spock
90% of season two: kirk gets kidnapped and the kidnappers took his shirt (gladiator fighting a possibility)
90% of season three: kirk gets stuck somewhere and spock has to go get him
other 10%: kirk convincing computers to kill themselves, spock mutinying and the triumvirate wearing silly little period costumes. (also three compulsory episodes of klingon content which i dread sorry)
#kirks gradual descent into damselhood is very funny#he like oh no spock im trapped and they took my shirt 🥺🥺 can you pick me up#did i mention i dont have a shirt on 🥺#kirk is getting kidnapped so much at this point they need to stick his face on a milk carton#on season three right now and i have watched three episodes in a row where kirk gets stuck and pronouced dead and spocks like nah hes fine#hes like dont worry starfleet ill fetch him#star trek tos#star trek#jim kirk#spock#spirk#bones mccoy
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I know that some things get omitted from the story because they aren’t relevant, but if you tell me that Jim Kirk’s apartment has a wall of ancient weaponry, he knows what vegetarian meal to order from the replicator for Spock, and Spock just lets himself in, and there’s no mention of where Spock lives, I’m just going to assume they live in the same apartment.
#like seriously where the hell does spock stay no one seems to ever mention any room except his quarters o. the enterprise#jean lorrah in the Vulcan Academy Murders had them stay AT SPOCK’S PARENTS’#McCoy got the guest room and Jim had Spock’s room but WHERE THE HECK WAS SPOCK? rooming with Sarek?#star trek tos#spock#jim kirk#star trek novels#time for yesterday#a.c crispin
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I'm watching old Leonard Nimoy interviews and this man. I can't. He's adorable. He's so proper. And he talks about Vulcans and warp speed and transporters like it's all real. He's just like a plumber but for emotions. He looks like an awkward teenager trying his best but he's 36 here. He's asked if he gets any time off and he responds by telling her every state he has visited during their recent hiatus. But he doesn't get any time off now they're filming. Just weekends. Saturdays and Sundays.
The interviewer, meanwhile, is trying so hard to speak in an impeccable transatlantic accent that the effect is such that she's just learnt to speak this very morning.
"It is your own hair," she says. "It's beautiful. It's nice and thick." He looks like he could die.
"We get into trouble if we move any faster than warp 8, which is eight times the speed of light. It's awful fast."
*long pause in which she gazes at him adoringly* "Are you married?" "Yes I am. My wife's name is Sandy. We've been married for thirteen years." [Do not hit on me I am not available I am a family man]
#Leonard Nimoy#Spock#TOS#I can't find a name for the interviewer#Youtube#did I mention that he's pretty? because he's SO PRETTY#actually reminds me slightly of [redacted] which is disturbing but tbf they were also very pretty
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I'm fully obsessed with how willing some people are to take things at face value. I did some reading to find out the best star trek TOS novels and on so many of them (interestingly enough it's usually for the ones written by women, but I digress), people leave bad reviews specifically with the same complaint, time and again. "Spock is too emotional in this. Spock is purely logical you can't write him with emotions like this." And every time i read that complaint i am fully fucking flummoxed, because of COURSE Spock is emotional, what the hell are these people talking about. Spock is shown over and over again in the show to be a deeply emotional person. This is something he vehemently denies, granted, but it is obviously intended to be clear to the viewer that he is LYING when he denies having emotions. Jim and Bones have very specific Looks reserved for when he tells this lie.
There is a very specific reason Spock tells that particular lie, of course. A pretty emotion-based one at that. Spock has a very complicated relationship with his parents and with his human versus his Vulcan culture. Growing up on Vulcan of course Spock wanted to be less human, and be more like his peers. But the fact is that even Vulcans are not naturally emotionless/logical, and they actually have very specific historical reasons for so deeply valuing logic over emotion. So it is absolutely baffling to me to see people just take what Spock tells us about himself entirely as truth. Spock is a bitch and a liar (affectionate) and he is so deeply human in so many ways. That's why people enjoy his character in the first place, imo.
#i mentioned this to my dad#and i love my dad i mean no shade to him but the man is not an analytical person by any definition#he watches tv and its in one ear and out the other. the man is the antithesis of fandom#but anyways even that guy was like 'yeah obviously spock is emotional'#like if your take is so superficially face value that my father recognizes it as dumb?#what show did u even watch#ANYWAYS#i will be over here reading the price of the phoenix and thinking about when spock allows himself to put his guard down#not yr#star trek#star trek tos#spock#prince queuehelm
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hey sorry but they goyified your inherently jewish written character. yea. yea no they tried catering to a wider audience. yea they made him scorf down a pile of bacon. i’m so sorry
#star trek snw#spock#judaism#leonard nimoy#also apology to leonard nimoy#i’m not even at the episode yet but i saw a bunch of spoilers on twt. and That clip#not to mention the nonsensical exaggerated gen z talk paramount put in the caption#not to ALSO mention the way they try so desperately to make him straight#quite harrowing from everything i’ve seen#yes i’m aware some jewish people don’t keep kosher and i don’t mean offense with this post#but many jewish trek fans feel it important to keep spock’s unabashed jewishness in tact#DISCLAIMER: i am not jewish. this post does not have significant weight and i do not wish to speak on behalf of jewish friends#lamb of blog
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spirk but amogus.
I hate this
#why. why would you make me draw that#ask#anonymous#star trek#star trek tos#star trek the original series#spock#s'chn t'gai spock#kirk#jim kirk#james kirk#james t kirk#captain kirk#spirk#among us#art#fanart#digital art#my background work is outstanding don't you dare mention how bad it looks
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Okay but pushing the Spock/Saavik thing, which has never been canon (I don’t count the cave thing because that was done to save his life under crazy circumstances, and books are not canon), in Unification is an interesting choice!
Because having Jim being the last person Spock sees as he dies makes it at the very least seem like a “my first spouse died and I remarried” situation — as well as the way that Jim and Saavik look at each other. Which, I would prefer to see as a father-figure type of situation where Jim is super proud of her and emotional over how she’s been there for Spock, but for the purposes of the video I can definitely see it in this light.
Not to mention the fact that Spock getting Saavik pregnant while he was (1) without a soul and (2) a teenager was intentionally NOT included in the movies and vetoed by Nimoy for good reason. (Being that it was a very creepy suggestion!)
Because why else wouldn’t Saavik be there, given the fact that they would have had a marriage longer than the time Spock even knew Jim? (Rip) I’m personally still not a fan of Spock/Saavik and will always see it as a familial relationship, but depicting everything in this way was certainly a choice. Because of course platonic soulmates are very real, but still not being the “most important” person in your alleged husband’s life so many years after his purely platonic bestie died is a… unique dynamic, if that’s what they’re trying to sell.
Unless she got pregnant and kept the baby and then the family just rolled with it, which would be highly unconventional but still not the weirdest thing to happen in Trek.
#I don’t like to say most important#because obviously relationships are more complex than that#but that’s the way the video is making it seem#me and my father figure and our son 🥰#I also keep him alive every 7 years but we don’t mention that#unification#spirk#star trek#saavik#k/s#not to mention the fact that Spock getting Saavik pregnant wasn’t in the movies for a GOOD REASON
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decided to watch the man trap randomly (not randomly i wanted to stare at bones in his black shirt) and i decided to write down some silly things i like about this episode.
- kirk calling bones plum after learning it’s the nickname his ex used for him
- janice just standing in the hallway munching on the food she’s bringing to sulu
- janice and sulu being iconic besties
- the silly plant puppet that is clearly shaped like a human hand
- the salt sucking monster that was pretty normal and talkative when disguised as nancy crater becoming strange and off putting when disguised as crewman green
- not silly, i just think that uhura serves face. i wish i could do eye makeup half as well as she does
- BONES IN THE BLACK SHIRT GOOD LORD
- the way kirk cares about bones
- when spock crawls backwards into the bushes
- i wanna know what it was like for crater to live for a year with the salt sucking monster that killed his wife. i’m imagining a wacky roommate comedy
- “WHO ATE ALL MY SALT??”
suspiciously salt shaped bones:
- crater definitely fucked that salt monster
- the sparkly bandage that spock gets for his head
- tbh i do see the salt monster in my nightmares
#leonard bones mccoy#star trek the original series#star trek#james t kirk#spock#the man trap#just going to mention bones in the black shirt one more time because it’s always in my brain
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i uhm i- yeah
#i thought spock’s shirt was a funny idea#he’s been resuscitated so many times#he’s had enough#spock’s body hair is so important to me#i treasure drawing every last hair#not to mention my jim kirk belly agenda#star trek#star trek the original series#star trek tos#s’chn t’gai spock#spock#james t kirk#jim kirk#captain kirk#kirk/spock#spirk
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