#season discourse

[jam-n-jay]

God I fucking hate January and February so goddamn much actual worst months of all time no contest

[bebx]

“this ship is not canon” babe, they’re fictional characters. they’re not real. they’re literally dolls we play with. we don’t care about whether or not these fictional characters’ love story is canon in this piece of media that is also entirely based on fiction. I mean, sure, canon would be lovely, but it’s a bonus. it’s not necessary. what we care about is the fun of talking about these 2 idiots being in love.

we don’t give a fuck if they didn’t kiss in “canon”. they had raw sex in thousands of fics about them though. and I’d say that’s more than enough to make people who ship them happily ship them even harder. happy shipping!

[whimprone]

Season 1: talk it through as a crew

Season 2: eat some soup as a group

[my-special-place-in-hell]

tua fandom rn

[imakatperson22]

Yes, I ship Buddie.

Yes, I ship Tevan.

[ourflagmeansgayrights]

actually can we stop talking about “deserve” when it comes to characters dying in fiction. not everything is a fable with a moral lesson to be learned. romeo and juliet didn’t “deserve” to die. bambi’s mom didn’t “deserve” to die. izzy dying in the finale doesn’t mean ofmd is saying that certain types of queer people “deserve” to die. fictional death can serve more narrative purposes than just punishment for the character doing the dying.

[coldbloodace]

Ok. I need to get this out. I'll preface this by saying I'm very excited for the new season to be released, and I can't wait to see more of our ineffable couple.

The thing is, I've seen a lot of posts where people are hoping that this season will 'confirm' Aziraphale and Crowley's relationship, or they're hoping to get a kiss to make it 'official'.

Listen. Listen. Aziraphale and Crowley are already in a relationship. More importantly, they're in a queer relationship. Their relationship is already outside the norms of Heaven and Hell, Aziraphale visibly dresses as a gay man and has been among the gay social circles in history, Crowley changes his gender presentation and is comfortable with it, and they're both queer and hence their relationship has always been queer.

Maybe they'll kiss, maybe they'll have a verbal declaration of their love, but if they don't, it doesn't make their relationship 'queerbaiting' or not queer enough. Just because they don't fit into your ideas of a queer relationship or explicitly state they're a gay couple doesn't mean that they're not queer.

Many aspec and even other queer people feel represented by Aziraphale and Crowley, and you do not get to take that away from us. Western media hasn't always been kind to gay relationships, but Good Omens is not one of them. If you do not like the representation, then feel free to watch other shows that have explicit romantic/sexual relationships. Don't drag this show into the apparent '''queerbaiting'''.

[tommykinard6]

“We don’t know anything about Tommy!” “Buck doesn’t know him!” “They’re just acquaintances!”

Does

Does

DOES NO ONE KNOW HOW DATING WORKS?!

[redrocketpanda]

Something that has been driving me insane about the credits are these sections with the fish so please bear with me whilst I do a mini deep dive (hehe) into fish discourse because YO, we need to talk about these fish!

Notice how at the beginning of the credits we actually have two white fish swimming along beside one another; one with bright turquoise eyes and the other with black.

A little while later the fish begin to circle each other and a droplet falls into the water between them. As the disturbance ripples out from the center, one of the fish dives deeper into the water and changes its colour to black; symbolizing Geto's change and descent into darkness

Then we have this heartbreakingly beautiful moment with Gojo and Geto:

I cannot stop thinking about how long Gojo watches the black fish for as it swims across the screen, whereas Geto's eyes are lowered the moment the white fish appears and he closes them as it swims past.

Gojo cannot bear to tear his eyes away, whilst Geto cannot bear to look

Throughout the credits, Gojo and Geto have been making their way towards each other through the pouring rain (or mostly sitting and waiting in Geto's case). At the end, they meet each other under a bridge and as they walk away together we see the fish a final time, swimming together again in a puddle formed by the heavy rain.

Geto walks on the left in the light, as the white fish swims close to his head, almost invisible in the brightness of the light. Whilst Gojo walks on the right in the shadow with the black fish swimming further away but still close by.

The fish speed after the two men before disappearing completely under the water just before the camera pans up and we watch as Gojo pulls Geto in for a hug as they walk away, before he's playfully shoved away by Geto.

There's a lot going on the credits (+ opening) that is absolutely killing me but man, these fish?! Breathtaking.

[aaronsinferno]

I’ll never forget how bleak and deeply unsettling this hiatus was. I’ll never forget the things that were said and done over fictional characters. I’ll never forget how horrible Lou was treated and how no one would dare speak out against such insane behavior. The homophobia, queer phobia, toxic and harmful rhetoric, nonstop harassment, gaslighting and the hypocrisy were through the roof. Very disheartening…

[whatthehickheck]

they are peak alt enby and their bf who’s just some guy representation

[newts-gay]

to all the people yapping about the “hypocrisy of alicent sleeping with cole when she abused and hated rheanyra all these years for sleeping out of wedlock” ermmm that’s just such an oversimplified and ignorant reasoning for alicent’s actions and it’s just really frustrating to read this view, missing well the point… i mean yes young alicent was an obedient lady that followed the customs and rules but she was never shown to hate on rhaenyra for the sole fact of out of wedlock sex or later infidelity. her first reaction when she thinks her friend slept with daemon was to help her out of the situation - even if she disagrees with such an action and the reason she does so is because that would compromise her position as a female heir to the throne. it is rhaenyra’s unabashed lying to alicent leading to otto being removed as hand and sent away of king’s landing that’s the actual blow to her regarding this incident. it was the consequences of rhaenyra’s “I do as I please” attitude paid by alicent’s family.

and again later on it’s not really an issue of morality (even if addressed as such), so much as it’s about rhaenyra flaunting her privilege to do whatever she pleases and having her dad save the day just because he can simply will everything so, just because they’re targaryen and can exist above the law. that is what her fucking whoever she wants and having multiple bastards “represents” in a way. of course alicent’s (r)eactions are also affected by the fact that she herself didn’t own her body or her pleasure in that forced-by-her-father marriage where she was raped to have children her abuser didn’t even want and yes it is misogynistic that this spite towards rhaenyra is fuelled by this comparison of lives but there’s so much more at play than “alicent is a conservative religious bitch”.

also maybe we could consider how hypocritical of the fans it actually is to shame and hate on alicent for trying to seek some sexual pleasure now that her abuser husband is dead because what she was salty about rhaenyra having obvious bastards?? like how does one thing justify the other

[lee-minhoe]

hanjitonin for @strayklds 💖🎁

[lesbianelsas]

alicent + (lack of) bodily autonomy

"This felt like a baptism. Stripping the outer layer, and that f-cking collar [laughs]. Her getting into the lake on her own is embryonic, in a way. It’s weirdly a coming-of-age moment for Alicent—the start of the rest of her life, what she’s about to do, and the woman she’s possibly about to become." (x)

[imakatperson22]

Them: Wait, so, you think Tommy’s closet joke was actually hysterical and made you love his character even more instead of hating him?

Me: