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talking to a genie and you can’t wish for immortality but u can get around it by wishing to not die until DC writes jason todd well
#jason todd#dc#batman 148#chip zdarsky#batfam#batman#scott lobdell#red hood#red hood and the outlaws
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Generation X #21, November 1996, written by Scott Lobdell, art by Chris Bachalo (pencils) and Joe Pimentel (inks)
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Iceman Almost Came Out as Gay Back in the 1990s
So prior to Brian Michael Bendis revealing Iceman (aka, Bobby Drake) was gay in the pages of his All-New X-Men run from 2015, apparently writer Scott Lobdell had planned to have Bobby come out of the closet two decades earlier but was unable to go through with his plans. Lobdell did however, lay the ground work for Bobby coming out during his time on the X-books in the mid-to-late 1990s.
Specifically, during an encounter with Emma Frost back when she was still a villain, the former White Queen of the Hellfire Club briefly took control of Bobby’s mind and actually used his mutant powers in more creative ways than he ever had done before. Emma accurately pointed out that Bobby was intentionally holding back the true potential of his powers, and was using humor as a shield to mask his own insecurities due to his conservative upbringing by mutantphobic parents.
Writer Sina Grace actually followed up on this old plot point from the 90s during his Iceman solo-series which immediately followed Bobby being outed by the time-displaced Jean Grey in All-New X-Men. In addition to depicting Bobby becoming more comfortable with his sexuality and gradually out to his fellow teammates, ex-girlfriends like Kitty Pryde, and especially his bigoted parents...
...Grace finally allowed Bobby to fully embrace his potential as an Omega-Level mutant. Not only did Iceman singlehandedly defeat the unstoppable Juggernaut in combat after after overcoming his greatest fear by coming out to his parents, but he began using his powers in more creative ways than before such as constructing ice-shuriken and multiple ice-clones and kaju.
Furthermore, Grace also revealed in his run that yes, during that time Emma Frost had mind-controlled Bobby back in the 90s, she actually did learn that Bobby was gay. But unlike the time-displaced Jean Grey, Emma never outed Bobby’s closeted sexuality to him or anyone else, and instead respected his privacy due to her own tragic experiences with her older brother Christian Frost being forced into "gay conversion therapy" (aka, torture...) by their abusive father.
Essentially, all of the people who try to argue that Iceman coming out makes zero sense or that it somehow "ignores/erases several decades of past continuity" (I'm looking at you homophobic Comicsgaters!) completely miss the fact that both Bendis & Grace were simply building upon the foundation that was already put in place by Lobdell back in the 90s! That’s NOT “ignoring or erasing several decades of continuity,” but the exact opposite!
And if you still need further proof that Bobby was always gay, just a reminder that during his very first appearance in X-Men (1963) #1 by Stan Lee & Jack Kirby, Iceman was the only person who was not acting like a horny jack-rabbit at the mere sight of the then-new student Jean Grey.
In other words... Iceman was always gay even as far back as his inaugural issue! Suck it Comicsgaters!
#mini essay#iceman#bobby drake#iceman is gay#lgbtq+#gay rights are human rights#queer rep in media#scott lobdell#brian michael bendis#sina grace#emma frost#jean grey#x men comics#marvel comics#90s comics#silver age comics#stan lee#jack kirby#kitty pryde#comicsgate is a hate group#suck it homophobes!#christian frost
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Everyone always wants to talk about Tim at Titans Tower or the decapitations when they bring up Jason being unhinged but no one wants to talk about that random lead goon who got a flare shoved up his ass.
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#this shit was so out of pocket#came back to this comic this morning cause I was looking for Jason's ribbon costume first appearance#and i forgot how insane some of this run was#I actually would rank this as crazier than decapitating bad guys#Scott Lobdell#rhato rebirth#red hood outlaw#jason todd#red hood#comic panels#dc comics#tw scott's writing#tw sex assault#at best this was the threat of SA and at worst actual SA#original post
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Wait, I need to know,
Has Jason ever admit liking Dick? They're considered brothers in most of the nightwing comics I've read but is it the case red hood comics?
Simple answer: yes. But it's complicated.
Red Hood and the Outlaws (2011) is the only comic where Jason explicitly talks about liking Dick.
Red Hood and the Outlaws (2016) Annual #1
Jason has looked up to Dick for a long time.
Red Hood and the Outlaws (2016) Annual #1
He also implies that Dick was a better brother than Dick thinks which isn't saying much at all.
I honestly don't believe even a single letter that's written in this comic about Jason, Artemis, Bizarro, Roy, Kori, or Dick. It's one of the worst comics I've ever read and I only got through this by sheer force of will to know everything about every character. I don't know how it's possible but absolutely no one comes out looking good in this comic.
Jason does like Dick but it's better to not use anything from this comic or reference anything from this comic.
Scott Lobdell can go suck it. Do you want to know how terrible of a writer he is and how horribly he misunderstands characters?
He said he doesn't see Superman as a beacon of hope and light. Where other characters see Superman as someone who people should strive to be, someone who does good and helps the world, Scott Lobdell says that Superman sees himself as an alien and will never think of himself as worthy because he's an alien.
Newsflash: an alien is another word used to call an immigrant.
He's literally saying that because Clark comes from another planet, he will never fit in and will always be aware of the differences between himself and other people on earth because he's an immigrant.
He actively supports racists. He had a twitter argument with Ron Marz who writes another comic called Voodoo and Ron says, "Seriously? I was under the impression I'm allowed to think racists are bad people." TO WHICH SCOTT LOBDELL REPLIES: Wow! What a stand: "Racists am bad" Why not use your writing to change hearts and minds instead of shooting fish in a barrel.
Are you for freaking real?!
Which makes perfect sense how he treats Kori and Clark given that he has sexually harassed another comic writer and made fun of their asian features. He's sexist and racist.
He's also classist because Jason's father actually loved Jason in the original comics. But in Scott Lobdell's version, a poor man is an evil, abusive man.
So not only is he sexist, racist, and classist, he also can't write! He literally has no idea the story and background and the decades of development that went behind each character he gleefully trashes.
Okay I totally deviated but point is, it's better not to use Red Hood and the Outlaws to learn about Jason. Or anyone.
The other Red Hood comics don't really talk about Jason's love for Dick but to be fair, it was written at a time when Jason hated everyone. The reason Red Hood and the Outlaws is supposed to be important is because it is supposed to tie into current events but the problem is it can't be trusted.
#jason todd#red hood#dick grayson#nightwing#koriand'r#starfire#clark kent#superman#scott lobdell#cl anon asks#red hood and the outlaws#thanks for the ask!#cl asks
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“Mortal Coils”, by John Romita, Jr., with Inks by Dan Green, Letters by Chris Eliopoulos, Colors by Steve Buccellato, and a Script by Scott Lobdell.
#Uncanny X-Men#John Romita Jr.#Dan Green#Steve Buccellato#Chris Eliopoulos#Scott Lobdell#X-Men#Master Class#Splash Page Process#Splash Page#Process#Marvel#Comics#Art#Illustration
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how do I explain to a jayroy that jayroy is the bane of my existence and red hood and the outlaws is terrible characterization 😭
#dc#jason todd#roy harper#red hood and the outlaws#scott lobdell#red hood#arsenal#red arrow#anti jayroy#anti rhato
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Lord the mischaracterization in this series will be the death of me 😭
Dc authors are really just out here writing themselves fanfiction
#dc#dc comics#batman#batman comics#robin#red hood#jason todd#the red hood#Tim drake#red robin#red hood and arsenal#rhato#scott lobdell
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1994's Generation X Vol.1 #1 (turning 30 today, feel old yet ?) cover by Chris Bachalo and Mark Buckingham.
#Generation X#Chris Bachalo#Third Genesis#marvel comics#comics#cover#Scott Lobdell#Emplate#Husk#M#Gateway#Banshee#Emma Frost#Jubilee#Chamber#Skin#Synch#art#90s#90's#1990s#1994#90s comics#30 years ago#phalanx covenant aftermath#xavier school#X-Men#x men comics#cool cover art#marvel
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Red Hood and the Outlaws #1
Jason thinks he’s so funny (and he is)
#dc comics#red hood#Jason Todd#red hood and the outlaws#arsenal#roy harper#starfire#koriand'r#scott lobdell#kenneth rocafort#new 52 comics#RentaBat Highlights
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Psylocke vs. Sabretooth. Epic!
#marvel#x-men#uncanny x-men#scott lobdell#joe madureira#tim townsend#Steve Buccellato#richard starkings#Psylocke#betsy braddock#Sabretooth#victor creed#boom boom#tabitha smith
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Would You Rather Either Read…
The Ric Grayson Arc
Or
One More Day
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Propaganda under the cut
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#X-Men#Generation X#M#Phalanx#Skin#Husk#Blink#Scott Lobdell#Fabian Nicieza#Joe Madureira#Phalanx Covenant
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Gutter Garbs has released a Happy Death Day shirt designed by Sam Coyne. Priced at $30, it'll ship the week of April 14.
#happy death day#horror#happy death day 2u#christopher landon#jessica rothe#israel broussard#gutter garbs#shirt#gift#sam coyne#slasher#jason blum#blumhouse#scott lobdell#tree gelbman
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