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Just saw a Dany and Dany x Jon stan saw that Sansa is an antagonist and that Jon would be so happy with Dany since they have the same idealsâŠ
Dany who LOVES burning people alive and Jon who shot Mance with an arrow to make sure he wouldnât suffer being burned aliveâŠJon whose father outlawed flaying in the north, Jon who believes âthe man who passes the sentence should swing the swordâ and hates killing and torturing even bad peopleâŠ
Dany stans hate Sansa because they think Jonsa gets in the way of their ship. Sansa stans hate Dany because they think Jonerys gets in the way of their ship. But, Jonerys stans typically are a lot more bad faith about Sansa in general and I've had more pleasant conversations with Jonsas then I've had Jonerys shippers.
Like, Jon and Sansa don't work because it's simple they're siblings, they grew up as siblings, they're not into incest and never will be.
The reasons why Jon and Dany won't work are literally the fundamentals of what Dany believes and the actions she takes literally contradict everything Jon lives and fights against.
Like both sides of the shipping war csn be VERY bad faith about the other, but Jonerys shippers tend to be a lot more toxic towards the other side and usually have to re write Jon to such a drastic degree to make it work that they are already in season 7/8 levels of character assassination.
#dany watched her husband brutally murder her brother without any emotions#jon nearly got himself killed because he refused to murder one innocent farmer he didnt even know the name of#like#same ideals where?????#anti jonerys#anti jonsa#just so no one gets the wrong idea
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tattoo artist/influencer in a tiktok video: *listing increasingly niche theories on why tattooers aren't making as much money as ten years ago*
Me yelling at the screen Dora the Explorer-style: PEOPLE CAN'T AFFORD GROCERIES.
#You can't eat your tattoos I mean you can but that's autocannibalism and generally not a sign of good times#tattooing#daily life#anyways the boring answer to all of this with every art/craft is the same: support artists where you can and in turn artists have to keep#their prices a bit realistic so people are able to support them in the first place#it's not ideal but the cost of living is not ideal so we have to move the little bills around as much as possible
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what I was talking abt earlier. we have fully looped back around and away from feminism, societally, whereas before it was very Feminism 101 to acknowledge that many parts of existing as a woman in a misogynistic society are painful and upsetting. not that being a woman is Inherently Negative in a bubble. but that living on this earth, in the conditions we're living in, is hostile to women. and that gender is a performance. that many of the Staples Of Femininity as accepted by society are things that you have to create and perform and mold artificially and aren't inherent, that COMPLAINING about day to day difficulties of existing as a woman is something that you're allowed to do. acknowledging these basic, again, feminism 101 things, that something tied to womanhood is more time consuming or more expensive or more dangerous Because Of The Problems. does not CREATE the problems. that when women complain about having to perform femininity, they are not, in fact, oppressing themselves. the call does not come from inside the fucking house. saying that you HAVE suffered does not fucking equate that you believe you SHOULD have suffered.
like I could talk about this for hours. how braindead and one-dimensional the Takes are getting. "being a woman is looking in the mirror and going fuck yeah i'm a woman" damn. I guess any negative experiences you have by living in a misogynistic world... are your fault if you are anything but positive? "you don't actually want liberation" we've fully gone back to telling feminists "you WANT to be oppressed" when anything negative about our society is pointed out. it's not real until I say it out loud, I guess, and then I'm actually the one who caused it. if anybody expresses any unhappiness with how they're treated or the status quo or the language and culture surrounding womanhood and femininity. they've created it, right that second. they invented it just now. it wasn't a problem before somebody complained, right? also trans women aren't braindead zombies who just follow the flow of whatever cis women around them say. I am pretty fucking sure they are very much aware of pain, and are MORE than aware of the swirling torrent of misogyny and standards of femininity than anybody else. actually. and I am pretty sure someone complaining on tumblr that being a woman means always putting on a performance is going to make someone change their mind about transitioning. also "performing femininity" as a necessity to being treated well as a woman is not fucking NEWS to your Local Trans Woman. I AM PRETTY SURE SHE GETS THE CONCEPT. using trans women as a scapegoat for this braindead perspective on gender politics is spineless, meritless, and pathetic.
#how I feel about my gender is not the same as how I feel about the living conditions of my gender#when I saw that post I screenshotted here I literally sat w my mouth open for a minute#sent it to my friends and was like am I fucking crazy. is this what we're doing now#Forced Positivity and that there is no war in ba sing se and actually#you're ruining children's lives if you complain about misogyny on twitter#I don't HAVE to tell little girls about the downsides because they are already being mistreated#before they have even heard the word 'misogyny' let alone know what it means#you do not have to be fucking happy all the time about the cards you're dealt.#you don't live in a bubble where it's just you and your mirror and your pretty dress and nothing bad has ever happened to you#unfortunately bitch. we will have negative experiences that are in fact. part of the package of being a woman#and IGNORING them doesn't make them not exist. actually they will continue to remain status quo unless acknowledged#sergle.txt#I see so much rhetoric that is JUST old-fashioned gender ideals being presented with liberal language on tiktok#that is just telling women that womanhood is just being a girllll and loving pretty things and being kind and gentleeeee and nurturing#and not working and just like being wholesome and being happy and being a light in ppl's lives and just LOVING LOVING LOVING being a woman#so if for even one second. you don't love it. you are actually failing at being a woman#if you complain about the standards for shaving or putting on makeup. which used to be Baby's First Feminism online#that's actually just you creating problems. you're not supposed to acknowledge it. you're supposed to shut up and smile into the mirror.
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[ 2ND CHILDREN / 5TH CHILDREN ]
â The truth is, Unit 02 simply isnât compatible with the other EVAs. (E14)
â I never imagined this boy could synchronize with Unit 02 without replacing its core. Quite astonishing. (E24)
Death & Rebirth Pamphlet / Cruel Angelâs Thesis OP / EVA-02 wiki / DEATH (TRUE ÂČ) / E16 / E24 / DEATH (TRUE ÂČ) / E22 / 3.0: You Can (Not) Redo Cover / E09 / The End of Evangelion / E09 / E24 / NGE Manga / The End of Evangelion
#neon genesis evangelion#nge#asuka langley soryu#kaworu nagisa#shinji ikari#mine#thereâs something here that I find really interesting wrt narrative relevance#bc both asuka + kaworu r rly important thematically#point blank the show would be fundamentally different w/o asuka in it#but asuka exists outside of the ikari bloodline#if shinji dies thereâs no show. if rei dies sheâs replace bc sheâs still necessary#asuka was incapacitated and they brought in a new pilot#all asuka wants is to be the most narratively relevant person in the room but sheâs the least. she exists outside of the ikari bloodline#and so she ranks below shinji and she ranks below rei#unit 02 isnât compatible w any of the other evas!#meanwhile kaworu is what kickstarts instrumentality. but if it hadnât been kaworu it wouldâve been smth else#heâs there for five minutes and then heâs gone. he shows up in glimpses#he doesnât get to actually matter either not beyond a concept#i think thereâs smth that ties them together there#which ofc makes their relationship to shinji fascinating#also lol I wasnât going to include this as actually being anything but I do think itâs funny that 2+3=5 get it#2nd children + 3rd children = 5th children#im very funny#anyway where kaworu idealizes shinji well asuka has to tear him down#and in many ways this is for the same reason#all of the kids are means to an end. but i think asuka and kaworu r this the most#bc they could be anyone. Thats the thing#thereâs no reason it has to be them. they could be anyone#the joke addition is ofc: feliz jueves vs quieres ser mi novio shinji?
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So it's all the rage right now to be "superheroes don't get along" for whatever reason, but what are your thoughts about Superman and his relationship to the Justice League? it only came to my mind because Hawkman/Katar Hol was the chairman of the JSA so many times in the early comics including after superman quit (the DC label had some IP issues) so it made me wonder about that
Hm! I don't have much of an opinion on this as someone who tends to read character solos more than team comics (because I like seeing how well characters stand on their own without relying on popular characters to bounce off of with the exception of a few team comics). Generally I notice within fandom it's popular to write Leaguers as friends with each other, while in canon the Leaguers have that "I work alone" and "co-workers don't get along" thing (again GENERALLY).
The way Super teams tend to be written in canon is a larger cultural American individualism reason for why they are that way. My former comics prof would compare the Justice League to say, Sailor Moon or Power Rangers/Super Sentai. One is more collectivist and team oriented compared to the other because collectivism is inherit in a lot of Asian cultures. I was taught that Marvel teams like the Avengers or Fantastic 4 do better abroad in collectivist cultures because they're purposefully written to be more friends/family oriented.
Again! This is painting with a huge generalizing brush. A lot of story telling trends have to do with evolving cultural mindsets. We are seeing an attempt by the west to imitate some of the collectivist ideals of the east (mostly Japanese media from anime and manga) but in my opinion it's very superficially imitated without understanding the cultural context of collectivist ideals (and how that affects writing cast systems like Super hero teams).
#askjesncin#jesncin dc meta#the Justice League have all these costumes while Sailor Moon team wear uniform. One embraces individuality while the other teamwork#even in Japanese media where there's teams not in uniform- the collectivist ideals are all there in the meat of the story#idk americans like to say âwe're all human and therefore the sameâ but no we're culturally informed differently
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something Iâve been thinking abt is how many people think Makoto is immune to despair. I donât think he is. I think becoming the ultimate Hope was BECAUSE he felt despair. He wouldnât have fully reached that point without Junko. Makoto becoming such a beacon was his last attempt to avoid completely falling and it wasnât because he didnât feel despair, it was because he was too damn stubborn to allow everything to go to waste and he refused to sacrifice his beliefs for someone elseâs. His inner monologue tells me he DID experience the same new low the other suvivors did in the final trial, but at the point where he had the choice to give up and die, he looked at the others and he looked at Junko and he couldnât allow it to happen, not out of self preservation, but because the idea that Junko would have control over their lives made him FURIOUS. and that utter refusal to die kicked in, wether luck or otherwise, and he made the concious effort for one last push while something in him was breaking. He had to be broken in order for the Ultimate Hope to come through so aggressively, bc it could only exist in the face of the Ultimate Despair. He snapped the same way she did, but in the other direction. In what could have been his final moments he chose to embody everything Junko wasnât, and every single optimistic and luck fueled ideal in him suddenly charged forward and pushed him. It was a combination of the final straw and a choice. Makoto isnât immune to feeling despair, heâs just too stubborn to fall into it of his own volition. I think thatâs why I like that scene in DR3 so much. People were SO SHOCKED Makoto actually fell for the tape, that he actually became despair for a moment. I saw people getting mad or disappointed, saying it was pathetic and Makoto seemed to fall from some sort of pedestal for them. Honestly part of me wonders if that sort of mentality, which clearly people had in universe, affected Makoto a bit. Like he started to see himself as less of a person, subconsciously. Prompting him to take more risks, less self preservation, act way more bold. It seems he has to be reminded a lot not to put himself in danger by his friends, to not do something too reckless. All over the place I would see in regards to that scene either this frivolous âoh this was just angst drama with no meaning behind itâ or âhe can do better than that. heâs so weakâ or âcome on, thereâs no way heâd fall into despair, heâs the Ultimate Hope!â This kind of mentality, which was kind of ironic considering Ryota was there the entire time saying the same thing and treating Makoto the same way. Like Makoto was superhuman. Like Makoto didnât feel despair the same way ânormal peopleâ did. In a way that was also how Munakata saw Makoto. Makoto stopped being a PERSON to the world when he became Ultimate Hope, he became a concept, a belief system, much the same way Junko ascended beyond herself. But the difference is that treating Makoto that way is the opposite of the reason Makoto became such a representative for hope. He wasnât doing something no one else could. He was doing something everyone had the chance to, he just⊠was a little more optimistic, a little more stubborn, a little more âgung-hoâ about things. He just took the lead where no one else did, where no one else knew they even COULD in the face of Junkoâs unstoppable force. She had overcome the biggest threats and obstacles in the world, what could one person do? And the answer Makoto found was, anything. Everything. It doesnât all rest on Makoto, heâs just the one that was inspired to try to do what seemed like the impossible. But as evidenced by the change in his friends after that trial, itâs clearly not something only Makoto is capable of. The others pulled out of despair thanks to Makoto, but it was their choice to do so.
âBut⊠this world is so huge, and weâre so small. What can we doâŠ? No, we can probably do anything. Yeah! We can do anything!â
#makoto naegi#Danganronpa character analysis#Danganronpa#danganronpa thh#danganronpa future arc#I fucking love Makoto Naegi man.#I think thereâs a fine line of nuance to Makoto thatâs easy to miss bc he doesnât really make it known#heâs not a pushover and heâs not overpowered. heâs a people pleaser but he will say what needs to be said#heâs an immovable object and the exact opposite of Junko but heâs also just a normal guy whoâs optimistic and (un)lucky#he isnât invincible but he has immense power to his words the same way Junko did#if anything his superpower is being kind above all else. heâs compassionate to some of the worst people in the world.#he was even conpassionatr to an extent to Junko. he didnt want her to kill herself despite everything sheâs done#and he still acknowledges that for years she was a classmate and friend.#I do think the more he learned abt what she did the more heâs come to actually hate her though#post the first game he always refers to her without a suffix to her name which is one of the most subtle rude things you can do#it means you have zero respect for the person youâre referring to#and he speaks about her with some venom he doesnât use for anyone else in the future arc#heâs not incapable of feeling negative emotions#I really liked the future arc scene bc it showed that Makoto DID experience enough despair to have overcome him if he didnât refuse#and that it still affects him deeply. people treat him like heâs either this perfect ideal Chad or this baby chick whoâs so delicate#and no one really focuses on how makoto shoulders so much and yet is still vulnerable.#honestly that guy was DUE for a mental breakdown even without the tape. it would have happened eventually#I actually wrote one based on him finally hitting a breaking point after giving so much of himself away and keeping nothing for himself#that his issues that he shoves down constantly finally canât be held down anymore. Hajime helps him bc he knows how that feels#it was a LONG time ago that I wrote that but honestly if I can remember where i was going w it I might finish it#it was initially an rp but I could make it a fic#anyway. the point is Makoto is SO much more complex than people give him credit for#the most fundamental thing about him is that heâs normal and thatâs ok! thatâs what helps him rise!
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ive never liked powerless saiki aus because the entire conclusion of the series is him accepting his powers as being a part of him that he cant change so like.. in aus where the power remover works, half of his development is erased..
if he had been "powerless" for longer, we wouldve gotten to see him realize this himself and im genuinely sad that we didnt.. we got to see him realize that being powerless wasnt the change he wished it would be and that its something he cant change, but its literally over a two day long period and we miss out on sooo much potential development..
and then in aus where hes born powerless, people think he would have the exact personality and development that he THOUGHT he would if he got rid of/didnt have his powers, like NO ? "without powers he would be another satou-" NO he would be a shy, borderline flamboyant, weird, awkward, genius LOSER.
he would have a more normal relationship with his brother (still probably competitive but in a way more average sibling way and kusuke wouldnt have had the motivation to become so murderous) and he would probably be even more friendless but with less trauma.. he may or may not have ever befriended akechi at all, and the classroom incident wouldnt have happened.. even some of his current friends might not be around if not for coincidences due to his powers or direct involvement from his powers.. (nendo and kaido would for sure still be there though, but this only ensures the idea that he would be the biggest fcking loser ever)
he would still be saiki, but. his powers are a key part of him. he would be totally different without them, but NOT in the way he thinks he would..
#also realistically he would be just as much of a stubborn asshole tsundere without his powers cmon#like yea his anxiety might present itself more as shyness than it does in canon him#but hes still an awkward stubborn asshole tsundere like thats just who the guy is#hes extra shy and maybe extra cute without his abilities to make people not find him cute#and is also like extremely ditzy and clumsy like he is in canon but its more visible to people because he doesnt have the powers to hide it#idk the point is his little quirks he thinks he wouldnt have would still be there but he wouldnt have the same faux justifications for them#need canon saiki to see an alternate universe him where he was born powerless#and hes like 'wow im going to see my ideal average me!'#and then au him is some super quirky ditzy clumsy kid with severe anxiety and also dysphoria#and he doesnt have powers to avoid being bullied like we see him do multiple times#this guy doesnt realize he will always be a loser no matter what#he loses key parts of himself and doesnt even realize that a lot of the parts left behind are still parts of himself that he hates#i know a lot of people think he would be much less jaded powerless which i get but#a lot of aspects of his personality that have less to do with his powers are a lot of the parts that he doesnt like and gets made fun of fo#so he would probably only be slightly less jaded and his awkwardness would just weigh it out a little more#though its hard to pinpoint exactly which aspects of him are only due to his powers#a lot of them are but i personally think those specific key personality traits would remain#anyway i would love to see what his relationship with his family would be like if he was born powerless#and i want to know who his friends would be#saiki k#tdlosk#the disastrous life of saiki k.#saiki kusuo#meows post
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I'm probably nonbinary but I have college so idrc about that rn
#man but weird. guy but kind of off with it.#okay my real genuine thoughts are that I consider 'nonbinary' to be just as descriptive as 'trans'#so to me it probably describes my gender experience. but in the sense that if you asked me what I am I'd tell you I'm a man#but idk.... my own relationship with the term âmanâ feels distinct from others.... I think everyone has their own unique relationship with#gender obviously BUT. I do not think I have the same thing going on as cis men. nor would I ever want that#...kind of a gender + bisexuality situation where any attraction I feel is gay attraction. I'll be honest#in an ideal world I could transition from female to Creature actually <- HE'S SANE#lab notes
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they are going to mehnahnaroo
#my art#mission to zyxx#C-53#pleck decksetter#dar mtz#ok time for some of my appearance headcanons#i was just gonna give c little dot eyes but i was goofing around with the doodle#and i was like. oh actually little light up ocular sensors that look like đïžđïž are kinda funny#i'm kinda trying to hit the space where the juck bot frame could conceivably have the same inner workings as the c frame#but it's got more like. idk plating and synthetic skin and stuff#i also think that ideally this type of frame is supposed to be more fully covered? with skin. less visible joints#and is supposed to have a cooler better looking face#but they got it at a discount store that sorta refurbished it juuuuuuust well enough to sell#they also mention in the show that the eyes glow and the jaw comes off#if there were any other details i forgot about them#i like tellurians to be Pretty Much Human#but I do like the pointy ears interpretation for one main reason:#i can put perfect little pointy ones on tellurians that are the Standard for good looks (rolphus etc.)#and give pleck ones that are slightly larger and a little bent. i just think that's fun#i'm also a short pleck truther and do not believe he is skinny. that man is at least midsized. actually probably just midsized#cause if he were too big he would be too cool#ohh and first time drawing the k'hekk eye yayyyy. it should probably be nastier but i can only do so much#dar i really imagine round cause it's like the classic Big Guy shape and they have no bones in their head so it can't be that structured#bodywise my design is def inspired by tikkitronictonic and snuffysbox's designs#i was at a total loss on how to interpret the talons and chutes and flaps when I was listening and this is easy and smooth#maybe the only major difference is that i imagine dar is pretty hygienic and furry scales feel like they'd be hard to keep clean#with all the uh. goings on#so i've got those across the chest and arms and then the torso is smoother in my mind#also ik dar is supposed to be like twice pleck's size but it's hard to stand these people next to each other#my brother said they made up a thing called mass shifting in transformers g1 to excuse the scale issues. so i'll do it too. get off my case
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when you invert chuuokuâs pink, you get that green secondary colour attached to bb and with every canon release we get ever closer to bb realising their true potential as chuuokuâs antithesis
#vee queued to fill the void#and itâs crazy lmao by all means bb and chuuoku allegedly want the same thing#chuuoku boasts a new era where you use words to solve your conflicts#but have suppressed conflicts by utilising a weapon#bb have all shown the actual power of using words to solve conflicts and reach their ideals#like i bet nayuta wanted to use the mics to empower music and messages to save the world but both governments had abused the mics#and the yamadas no matter how knowingly are carrying her ideals forward#lol thereâs like two different posts i can make following this thought about bb maybe unknowingly have inherited nayutaâs dream of music#and how batâs secondary green is a warmer green#and batâs individual colours are riffs of other teamsâ colours#but thatâs for another day TMINUS 2 AND A HALF HOURS UNTIL BB DROP
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claudrien au where claudia died soon after meeting adrichat and it's that trite shit where adrien makes up an entire romance with this "cool" dead girl in his dead to cope with his own loneliness and. uh. gabriel/emilie parallels
#it works BOTH WAYS TOO.#the prince/ss hopelessly in love with a struggling nobody (whose problems they can fetishize)#and the pining after an imagined ideal of a dead person#this is not a ''good person'' adrien au btw#it should have the same energy of the guy who had a crush on anne frank#it's a very impersonal obsession with a tragic girl#who (at least in claudia's case) might not be entirely 'pure'#but is rendered so in death in a way#her suicide makes her this beautiful untouchable creature that he can project fantasies onto#extra angst if it's simultaneously lovesquare#where adrien is caught between three 'people':#the excitable cute girl-next-door#the admirable idol who doesn't return his feelings#....and the lingering ego-driven thought that he could've ''saved'' the girl who died#GOD I LOVE WHEN HE SUCKS
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See, I was thinking he could just tap into your bloodstream. If he's hanging out in Rain's pocket we already know where he's getting the cells to convert from, and, well, why overcomplicate the system that's already there?
I may have just answered my own question by realizing that Rain would probably be turbo-weirded out by the more straightforward proposal.
#body horror cw#ignore Morg#... I'm assuming we're making the same assumption as to where he's getting cells to convert to DG cells without draining his host#Maybe I'm a little too into the consensual possession thing. It's a very self-indulgent thought.#But. I think the ideal partner for Schwarz if he keeps getting himself disintegrated#(as far as not making regenerating a fucking Char-fest goes)#would be a trans man that just lets Schwarz borrow his body for whatever amount of time.#Look G fans if you want to keep insisting that Schwarz is a char clone bring him back using my method; that would bring him over the line#... I'm not personally into the whole mommy kink thing that this setup could easily lean into#but the idea of bizarre symbiosis? where the host is willing but their partner is unhappy with using/needing them? That's the good shit.#Also look I'm a brutal utilitarian when it comes to the wretched organ and would love to find some unintended uses for the thing okay?#I'm keeping this out of the main tags but I'll be reblogging this with the above tags and my category tags for findability
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Now that we are being followed by people, we need to make some thoughts and opinions clear so that people are not later Shocked And Disgusted or whatever by thoughts we have held for many years. We think it's weird and also bad to treat queer people like they're a different species from cishet people, and we think that treating things like Having A Sexuality makes a character better than if they have a different sexuality is bad no matter what way you put it.
We also think that, if in your setting queer folks are widely accepted and straight isn't a "default", it may be worth noting that, say, a straight woman might need just as much self-discovery to work out she's straight that a lesbian does nowadays. In the same manner that, in Ace Attorney, Larry Butz needs to tell Phoenix that no matter how many photos of handsome men he shows him, he's tried, he's just not attracted to men,
#we speak#this is only half shitpost the other half is âwe think the way fandom can treat straight people like another species is bad actuallyâ#this also goes for cis characters btw#if asking whats in your pants is bad for queer people it is Also bad for nonqueers! no one is obligated to that information!#in a world where all genders and sexualities are equal someone being straight is just as much a notable trait as them being bisexual#which should ideally be of similar note to like. any other piece of personal identity junk#labels are a mode of self definition and not like. a signal that any given thing is better#like we do very much think that acting like a character being straight is like a Terrible Thing That Mangles Them#is on the same level as like. the people who insist that tracer overwatch was Totally Ruined by being a lesbian#does who theyre attracted to really matter that much? are you really that obsessed with a characters gender?#do you really have that burning of a need to know whats in a characters pants? this mindset is bizarre to us from both sides#literally every character we've ever written could be cishet and youd never know. because it doesnt matter.#your identity is none of our business and our identity should be none of your business as well#and that fact means nothing because just as there is no fundamental difference between man and woman#there is no fundamental difference between a man who transitioned and a man who did not#we made all this shit up. we promise you it is not the end of the world if someone doesnt make sense to you. do whatever you want forever.
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Currently feeling a bit feral over the fact that Natalia means Christmas Day - as in the birth of Jesus Christ and Bucks story is so heavily leaning into the birth death and resurrection of Christ - the saviour - as a central part of his narrative arc. Her presence is literally about the birth of buck - as in processing his grief about why he was born - as a saviour baby.
#Buck hasnât processed that trauma that dates back to his birth#he was never allowed to grieve the brother he didnât know he had#and then he was in a coma where he created this version of Daniel - a deep rooted trauma response in itself#but thatâs brought the Daniel of it all closer to the surface of his concious#and he needs to process and grieve and allow himself to move on from that#and I think Natalia the death doula is a key part of this - because she is ideally situated to help him process that specific trauma#this isnât so much about his own recent brush with death (although itâs part of it) itâs about going back to the beginning and processing#he needs to deal with the Daniel of it all before he can deal with everything else#in the same way we had Eddie going back to his own root trauma - with his father - and processing and dealing with things#via frank. this is just Buck taking a different path which will have a similar outcome#yes Buck May date her as he goes through this process but ultimately heâs attracted to her metaphysically - because she can help him#not because heâs actually attracted to her romantically#also the show has doesnât too much time recently showing us the buddifer family - to ensure we can see where things are heading#before it continues to process their trauma#thinky thoughts#911 spoilers#911 on fox#911 fox#911onfox#evan buckley
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LOUMAND EPIC DIVORCE FIGHT PT.3
if loumand has 1 million fans I am one of them if loumand has 5 fans I am one of them if loumand has 1 fan it is me if loumand has 0 fans I have been removed from this mortal plane if the world is against loumand I am against the world. failmarriage enjoyers come get yâallâs juice
âWhat happened to those âGreat Laws,â Armand?â He asked, fury rising in him again. âYou know, the ones you killed my daughter for?â
âWhat do you want me to say? Would you have me apologize again so you can refuse it? To tell you that if I could go back and change it, I would? To turn back the wheel of time itself and undo it all? I cannot.â
Louis wanted to strangle him. Would, if he didnât know that Armand would just sit there and let him, not feeling a damn thing. âI want you to feel fucking sorry!â
Armand rolled his eyes, but Louis had spent over seventy years sleeping next to the monster under the bed. Had decades to learn his tricks and tells. Not all of them, like he might have thought once, but enough to spot the minuscule shift in his expression. The brief twitch of his mouth and the shuttered blink before his face flattened.
There he is, he thought triumphantly. A reaction, a real one. Something that alluded to the man beneath the mask he always wore, not nearly as impenetrable as he thought it was.
ââSorry,ââ he scoffed, lifting his chin haughtily. âSorrow is for mortals. We are vampires, Louis. We do not have the time to waste on regrets and what-ifâs.â
As if he hadnât seen into Armandâs mind countless times. As if he had not held him through a thousand nights of wishing he could go back and save his Maker, save Riccardo, save his brothers. As if he had not once confessed to Louis that he sometimes wished he could go back and die a human death in Mariusâ arms. The audacity of the lie was almost like a slap in the face of their entire companionship. Or was Armand telling the truth, and those memories the lie? How much did Louis know him, really?
He couldnât be sure anymore, but he was confident that it was better than any living being on this earth. Enough to get through the lies and rip into the man underneath, the fragile heart in the photograph. If Armand owed him anything, it was this.
âNo time? We got nothing but time! You really expect me to believe that when your fledgling is flaunting himself in front of millions with no Maker in sight? You telling me youâre a deadbeat âcuz you donât feel regret?â
Armandâs mouth pursed before he stepped back. âDonât speak of things you donât understand,â he warned, eyes darting back and forth. Settling on the closest window like he was thinking about an escape.
Louis didnât give him one. âOh, I understand plenty,â he scoffed. âI probably understand better than you. What, you thought youâd make our âsymbol of loveâ immortal for shits and giggles?â
That finally got a visible reaction out of him, swiveling his head back to look at Louis with wide eyes. âI didnâtââ
âYou let your coven fucking lynch me because of my fledgling, but eight decades later youâre doing the same damn thing! To the ill and infirmed, no less.â
âWhat do you want from me?â Armand finally burst out, whirling around on him in an incandescent rage. Louis felt himself smile, could feel his lip splitting as his fangs dropped. âI have apologized time and time againââ
âOnly âcuz you thought it would fix things!â
ââspent years throwing myself at your feet for your mercyââ
âMercy? Did you show my daughterââ
âWill it ever be enough? Over seventy years devoted to youââ
âA drop in a bucket compared to the fact that it was over half my lifeââ
âI donât know what else I can do!â
âSay sorry and fucking mean it this time!â He roared. âFeel fucking sorry for lying to me throughout our entire companionship! Say something real for once!â
They both fell silent at that, chests heaving through some faded muscle memory. Puppets just going through the motions yet again. What was it that Armand said? Mark it on the calendar, align it with Ursa Major. Louis and Armandâs tri-annual blow-up fight to kingdom come.
Louisâ voice trembled as he said, âI want to know why. None of that âI could not prevent itâ shit. I want you to tell me why you let them kill my daughter.â
Armand sank down on the couch, shoulders slumping. Submission and acceptance coloring every inch of him. âWhy?â He murmured, staring at his knees. âIt will not change anything.â
Louis sat on the other end, keeping as much distance between them as he could. âHumor me.â
ââŠit is true, that it was because of Madeleine,â he finally admitted. âShe was somewhat of a last straw. I had told you before, the creation of more creatures like us was something I could not condone. If you did not love me enough to understand and accept that, how could I trust you over the people in my coven? How could I believe you would not leave me to whatever caught your fancy next?â
âAnd saving me?â
âLestatââ
âI donât mean on stage. Why didnât you let me die in the coffin? I was almost gone. It would have been over, and then you would have had your coven and spent the rest of eternity directing plays, fooling an audience, listening to Santiago blabbering onâŠâ
âSo youâd submit me to a punishment worse than death,â Armand said dryly.
He almost cracked a smile before he remembered himself. âIâm not in the mood to be funny right now.â
Armand sighed, as if Louis was some insufferable child he was humoring. It pissed him off, but yelling wouldnât get him what he wanted right now. Even if it would be cathartic and incredibly deserved. âThe coven wasnât the same, after,â he said. âThey had lost respect for me. In part, I suspect, because they could sense the regret you seem so insistent on. Santiago had never liked me muchââ
âHe wanted to fuck you.â
âHe got off on forcing me to submit. He knew the name I had told you. I donât know how, whether he heard you say it or if he plucked it out of your head through the appalling shields Lestat had not trained you onââ
âDonât talk about him. This is about us.â
He looked briefly incensed at that, and he could almost hear the retort, âBut you can speak about Daniel?â He didnât say it, though, because Daniel was different. Daniel had been theirs, in a way that Louis couldnât put to words.
Armand must have known that too, because he moved on without comment. âThe coven could sense my guilt, my regret, and they closed in on me. Is that what you wished to hear? That I saved you to save my own skin?â
âOkay.â
Armand looked at him in surprise, frowning. âOkay?â He echoed.
âThat was about what I expected to hear.â He learned back against the couch, letting the cushion swallow him and his regrets. It stung, but he was still too angry to really feel it. What was one more betrayal? What was one more petty grievance eighty years in the past?
Armand considered him for a moment. âIt was also because I love you,â he said softly. âI do not want you to doubt that. The coven was only part of it. I found I could not bear the thought of your death.â
Found out too late, but hindsight is 20/20. What did it matter that Louis still had stones rattling around in his ankles? The constant reminder weighing him down, never as badly as the memories that came with them. If Armand had decided to wipe the trial from his mind, would he have removed them as well, or left them? Would Louis know why his footsteps felt so strange, what the aching in his heels heart meant when it echoed in his heart? He wished they were back in Dubai, so he could feel the comfort of his rock garden beneath his feet.
âOkay,â he said again. âNow pause the bullshit for a minute.â
Pause. Blink. Head tilt. He could see the cogs turning in Armandâs head like clockwork. For a master manipulator, he was always incredibly predictable. Or maybe Louis had spent too much time with him. âIâm not lying to you.â
âNo,â he agreed, âbut weâre going around the real problem. You said Madeleine was the last straw, but that was me. Letâs go back to that. Why did you kill my daughter?â
âThe Great Lawsââ
âI didnât ask about them.â
Armand fell silent, studiously not looking at him. Louis settled back and waited him out.
Finally he spoke, very quietly. If they werenât vampires he wouldnât even have heard him. âI fear that if I tell you the truth, I will forsake the last bit of affection you may still hold for me.â
âIf you donât tell me, youâre gonna get the exact same result,â he said. âSo I donât think it matters.â
The blow struck. Armand swayed as if taking a physical hit, taking a deep breath he didnât need. When he looked at Louis, his eyes were lined red with tears he didnât let fall. Truth, or another tactic for sympathy? It didnât matter. He had plenty of experience ignoring Armandâs tears in the bedroom, he couldnât let himself falter when it mattered most.
âShe reminded me of myself. Of the youth I once had.â It came out of him in a rush, as if heâd been holding the words back for centuries. âAmadeo begged his master to turn him for over a decade, and each refusal battered his very soul. As he grew older, taller, as hair began to grow on his face and chest and between his legs, as his master took him to his bed less and less. Amadeo was loved, yes, yet it was not until I was nearly thirty and dying that my master saw fit to give me the gift. I was jealous, Louis, is that what you wanted to hear? She had everything Amadeo had ever wanted, yet she cursed her own fortune with every breath she took. I forced her to reckon with it, quietly delighted in watching her perform a song that made her more miserable with every note. I thought she was a spoiled, inconsequential flea who would not make it another fifty years. I believed her to be the reason you refused my companionship. A hundred reasons, each of them more petty than the last. What does it matter? You will hate me no matter what.â
Louis thought he might be sick.
Armand closed his eyes, drawing back into himself. âIf that was the only reason,â he said almost gently, âI would not have done it. But I had seen dozens like her over the centuries. Children are not meant for the gift. Either madness takes them, or they cannot bear the constant infantilization, or something else, it doesnât matter. One by one they walk into the sun. The absence of choice can be a mercy.â
He clearly believed what he was saying, which just made it even worse. How much âmercyâ had Armand offered over the years?
Even deeper down, Louis wondered if he was right. The first vampire they ever met in Europe had cast herself into the flames before their eyes. Louis himself had run headfirst into the sun and nearly succeeded. How many others had destroyed themselves because they could not bear the Gift they were given?
âNot Claudia. She was strong.â Stronger than Louis had ever been, certainly.
âThey all say that, and yet they all succumb eventually.â
âShe wouldnât haveâ
Armand sighed. âI supposed weâll never know,â he acquiesced. Louis could tell his heart wasnât in it.
He let it slide this time. At least the words were true. âNo, we wonât.â
They sat in silence for a time, not looking at each other. The only sound from the cars driving outside. They did not need to breathe, to blink, to move at all. As still as the pictures Louis used to take, back when things seemed like they might turn out okay.
Finally, Louis exhaled slowly. Armand turned toward him, but said nothing.
âOkay,â he said. âOkay. I donât forgive you.â
Armand didnât flinch. Didnât blink. Just stared at him motionless, as if he was waiting for something.
âI donât forgive you,â he repeated pointedly. âBut Iâm not going to kill you.â
âI donât understand.â
Of course he didnât. Hadnât that been what he was aiming for when he turned Daniel? If you touch him, Louis had said, and Armand had given his fascinating boy the worst curse he could imagine as soon as his back was turned. 500 years passively yearning for an end no one would provide. Louis wouldnât be the one to grant him mercy.
His final gift to Armand, or maybe his final âfuck you.â A long life. An eternity at his fingertips, exactly as Amadeo had once begged for. The chance to grow even more powerful until little Arun could never be hurt again. A chance to torture himself for the rest of time in a hell of his own making. A chance to better himself, if Louis was feeling generous.
He wasnât sure, but after seventy-seven years of standing hand in hand with this man, this monster, this little boy trembling in the midst of all the power he held, he thought it was a kind of salvation. For both of them.
Besides, Daniel was thriving better than either of them in the throes of the Gift. Armand had to have known he would.
âI donât either,â he said. âYouâd deserve it. But Iâm tired, Armand, and I loved you once. I think that counts for something.â
Armandâs eyes widened. He stood quickly, putting distance between them, but not before Louis saw a bloody tear slip down his cheek. âDonât say that to me when you donât mean it. I cannot bear it.â
He looked as pained as Louis had ever seen him, despair twisting his features at the words Louis had never afforded him when they were together. He was beautiful in his misery, as beautiful as he was in anything. He hated him for it as much as heâd loved him once. The Temptation of Amadeo, rendered in flesh and blood and the viscera of honesty.
âI do. I did,â he said, twisting the knife just to be cruel. âGuess it doesnât matter now.â
Armand shook his head. Opened his mouth, then froze, caught between words. Still as a painting in the low lamplight. Louis could see the brush strokes on his face, see every piece of art he had shown him overlaid with the real man in front of him.
âRight,â Louis said, when enough time had passed that he was certain Armand wouldnât say anything. âGlad we had this talk.â
âAre you?â
Louis surprised himself when he answered, âYeah, actually. I am. You?â
âI donât know.â He looked frail, sad, tired, but no closer to walking into the fire than he had been when Louis had cornered him.
He thought that deep down, he was probably relieved by it. The confirmation that Louis wouldnât kill him, that the love between them hadnât been a complete lie. Still, how would he know? His lack of understanding of Armandâs innermost thoughts had been made abruptly clear to him with a script marked in red ink.
âAnything else we should talk about?â He asked. âAny other lies? Any other Dannyâs knocking around in my brain, waiting for me to remember them?â
âNo. No, there was only one. Daniel Malloy is not an experience you can replicate, I suspect.â
âThank God for that.â
He almost smiled at that. âIndeed.â
âSpeaking of Daniel Malloy,â Louis said, standing up. âFor fucks sake, pick up the damn phone. Give our boy a call.â
Our boy. A slip he hated himself for instantly. It was too easy to fall into their old patterns, something that was probably by design. Shock flashed over Armandâs face before it was replaced by humor. âHe hates it when you call him that,â he pointed out.
âIâve had to deal with that shit for a century, he can handle it.â
âHe finds it arousing.â
âYouâre not the only one who can read minds around here, you know.â
âAre you going to do anything about it?â
As if Armand still had any right to know who was in his bed. âAre you? Donât think I didnât pick up on his thoughts about âRashid.â You feeding him your blood was probably a dream come true for him. Did you get to pick his brain about it before it was closed to you forever? What did he think of the taste?â
Armandâs lips thinned, and he turned away.
Louis didnât let him leave without a final blow. âYou gonna tell him about the other memories you erased?â
He stiffened. âYou have no rightââ
âI have every right, and you know it.â
âIf you must know, the answer is no. What difference would it make?â
A pretty damn big one, if you asked Louis. He felt it every time he talked to Daniel, the yawning cavern of curiosity surrounding the blank afterimages in his memory, the way he could clearly sense something wasnât right. Searching the globe for Armand, chasing him in some kind of fucked up role reversal only one of them was aware of. And then Armand, clearly punishing himself with every echoed heartbeat, every kill Daniel took to like a shark in a reef. Only making them both miserable as he hid in solitude.
âHonesty, Arun,â Louis snapped.
They both froze. Fuck. Fuck. Falling into old habits indeed, the world's most ill-timed Freudian Slip. Heâd tried so hard to stay away from it, to wrangle Armandâs honesty from him in a way that didnât depend on the command of his submission. Heâd finally gotten what he wanted, and then he had to go and screw it up.
âI am not Arun to you, anymore.â Armandâs voice trembled. âI would prefer you did not use it.â
Louis nodded, even though Armand couldnât see him. Bit back the instinctive apology on his tongue.
âI do not see the use in continuing this pointless conversation. Is there anything else you want of me, anything else you require?â
Yes. He wanted to shake him, tell him that they werenât done here. He still had questions. He wanted to strip Armand down to the bone, rip his flesh off piece by piece and expose the skeleton underneath. Would that finally reveal the truth, or would he have to go deeper? Into bone marrow, the stem cells, his DNA. Would that allow Louis to know him?
It didnât matter. The mask had gone up, and Louis didnât have the energy to pull it back down again.
âNo.â
Armand nodded once, his back still to Louis, before walking to the door. He paused with his hand on the knob. âI have always been a coward, Louis,â he confessed, still staring straight ahead. Louis could see the set of his shoulders, the clench of his fist, but not his face. âThere is your truth.â He twisted the knob, opened the door. âYou will not see me again, if you do not wish.â
Before Louis could reply, he was gone.
#all louisâ boyfriends know how to do is be bisexual eat people microagress and lie#trying to wrangle armand into being honest in a way that still feels in character is like trying to climb mt everest in stillettos#so if I failed well then. i tried đ«Ąđ«Ą#honestly might continue editing this and post to ao3 at some point but donât hold me to that#also like to play a little game called spot the book quote#past devils minion#louis is on his âself actualizing and forgiving myselfâ journey and also sober which is why they can have an actual conversation here#also writing armand is great. guy who just passively wants to die all the time: killing people is merciful actually#Iâm being so merciful right now#what do you mean suicidal idealation âisnât normalâ look at all these people who told me they wanted to die after I brainwashed them#also can you tell I love readings where show armand wishes he had been turned at the same time that he was in the books#and readings where he projects onto claudia SO SO SO much#rip claudia doomed to the projection these old queens lay on top of her over and over again#until her voice is completely erased from the narrative đđđ#iwtv#interview with the vampire#interview with the vampire fanfiction#iwtv fanfiction#loumand#louis de pointe du lac#armand#for the record I give it like two years before theyâre fucking again#five TOPS
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Had the extremely upsetting experience of a mutual of like 6 years going off on me for occasionally making posts about supporting Harris because apparently that makes me a g n cide denier who refuses to learn and grow, with all of my views just being assumed not even from what I've told them I believe or what I've posted before, but just because I DON'T post particularly the kind of things they THINK I should be. When I pointed out how much they were just completely assuming about stuff I'd never talked to them about, I was told it doesn't matter what I do in real life or "care" about if I simply disagree with their conclusion and vote for her anyway. Like they were absolutely not sorry for the level of maliciousness they not just assumed of my character, but for some reason thought appropriate to bring directly to me before unfollowing me. No apology whatsoever for how discomforting or upsetting that might be and certainly no acknowledgment that I could disagree with them and still be a good person. I just got another even longer rant about how they fundamentally can't fuck with me because of this one thing, no matter WHAT else I do in my real life (which I pointed out that they do not know), and how I'm directly supporting fascism.
Like seriously what is it about Tumblr that makes people think they know someone based off of occasional posts? There were just such DEEP assumptions they were making of me and going off of very little or absolutely nothing. Around the time I first became mutuals with that person I used to express my personality and beliefs and talk about what was going on in my life a lot more openly, but I've significantly scaled back on doing that in many ways for many reasons. One of my major ones is privacy and the way I've had strangers outside my followers and following circles just find random things I say and dogpile me for it. I was fundamentally changed after some T Fs did that to me like 3 years ago. I also just didn't have many conversations w that person anymore (I message people in general on here like 10x less than I did circa 2018-2019, which I'm somewhat sorry about!). My point is to say I think this person felt comfortable assuming that they knew me, especially who I am in 2024 at the age of 25, much better than they actually did.
One of the specific things they accused me of was being afraid of learning and growing (because I don't perform social media activism on here like they think I should). Like AFRAID to take criticism. When again I've never received criticism from them or had to respond to any criticism on here before as pertaining to my views on... well, absolutely any of the issues they accused me of not caring about. They essentially treated it as if the only thing in the world I cared about was the US election and characterized me as the most out-of-touch liberal they could possibly imagine, because I'm not "pushing" Kamala Harris to be better (Oh?? Should I do that on here?? Does she read my blog??).
And most hypocritically what they said was that I only *sometimes* *vaguely* post pro-Harris things (I often post like 5 or fewer things in a day though?). But here's the kicker. "Because I know I'll get shit for it. And rightfully so."
Really????? Not a single person, anon or not, in my messages or in a tagged post or anything, has ever given me shit before for saying who I'm voting for. I'm actually NOT afraid of "getting shit" for that opinion, I just don't start fights with people who are anti-voting. And why should I??? I genuinely don't believe in trying to change the minds of strangers on the internet about that sort of thing. I'm just not confrontational about it; that is so not the same thing as being "afraid of getting shit." I'm not posting ENOUGH about my support for Harris, therefore I'm afraid. But therefore they can also make all these assumptions about me being their strawman for an ignorant Harris supporter.
I'm afraid of getting shit but I still post anyway? But if I weren't afraid of getting shit I'd be posting a lot more?? This is ALL based on their assumptions of what my blog *should* look like, based on what I really and truly believe. My level of posting every now and then is an accurate gauge of my feelings on complex, sensitive, global issues. Because I'm voting for the Democratic presidential candidate and I'm ok sharing pretty much just that little glimpse of myself.
I really don't think that person knows just how inappropriate and insulting that is to just say all of that to me. Like they really know what's going on in my head. Their first message began and ended with like "I'm sorry I love you I just can't take it anymore" but they clearly weren't sorry enough to try and be more respectful to me, and they didn't love me enough not to default to extremely ungenerous assumptions and attacking me based off of those instead of any actual words I've said that they take issue with.
Online radicalization is real and it's not necessarily bad because your political views can start to fall well out of the contemporary Overton window. The way you find it appropriate to treat people whose views, however common, seem to fundamentally misalign with yours... that does matter. You can't just assume the worst of everyone and then act on that in how you approach them as individuals. And then be shocked that you don't stay friends with them. You can't be confrontational with someone about an issue you've never had an honest conversation about, and then expect them to take your bad faith in them as reasonable well-meaning criticism.
I'm afraid of criticism??? I'm afraid of criticism. No I'm not. This person and I have never had an issue before where they criticized me and I got harshly defensive. It was ALL projection. The entire tone of their messages was as if all their anti-voting posts recently were somehow in communication with the occasional go-vote-for-Harris posts that I make. That's not a conversation. I don't post for your satisfaction. I don't post in "response" to my mutuals I disagree with. I just post what's on my mind, sometimes, about some things. I really again can't stress enough how baffled I am by this
#tales from diana#long post#this is not really a post about voting this is a post about online etiquette#i also remember that this person at one point when we were teenagers had a crush on me#so they might have somewhat idealized me or maybe just had respect for the good times#good conversations we had over the years etc#i still held them in regard even though some of their anti-voting posts i took serious issue w#again i really don't care to argue w ppl against voting bc really i mainly only disagree w that one conclusion#the systemic critiques that were made in those posts i don't think make them bad ppl#i sympathize w why someone might think that way#i just cannot pretend that i think nothing changes if we have dt as president again#i can't act as if im not anxious at the state of the world we're in where we're seriously at risk of that#i don't have that same level of concern about harris. i don't. i don't think theyre the same#i think they diverge in so many meaningful ways but im usually not writing detailed long thoughtful posts about it#do i have to??? for TUMBLR?? id rather not...#but i don't wish to be confronted as if these are nuances i MUST not hold in my opinion#can't stress enough they were basically calling me a g n cide denier like that's just a cool ok thing to do#i have literally never made a post about ppl not voting for harris bc of the war in gaza#i specifically haven't not because im 'afraid' but bc i don't believe in comparing those 2 things#there was gonna be a presidential election this year anyway and there does not have to be this war#if u think dems aren't doing well enough on the war for u to vote for them. i can't argue w u#but i was always going to vote anyway#again im afraid of getting shit?? ONLY this person has EVER given me shit until now#im not pushing harris enough? how tf do u know that? bc im not reblogging ill-informed posts from ppl like u?#im not PUSHING this woman running for president enough bc im not writing critical posts she and her advisers will never see#about how im threatening to withhold my vote from them. something id never honestly do considering the opposition#they kept stressing to me to about how they weren't a trump supporter when *i* never said as much to them#i do agree that not voting for harris 'supports' trump in that it benefits him overall#but i don't attack ppl who just aren't voting in that way. ok?#damn i hate being on the defensive like this
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