#ritual abuse mind control

[wiltedrosebouquet]

saw another post about ramcoa so i just want to take this minute to remind you that when you say shit like ramcoa not being real because you don’t think sra is real (which is…. still debatable given the context of the abuse and group), you are also discounting literally every other person who has undergone repeated abuse and brainwashing by other religions organizations (oh like i dunno, the christian and catholic church???????? hello??????????). this type of abuse is very real, absolutely exists, and happens to people all the time in all parts of the world with all types of religions and political alliances.

if your qualm with the term is that it’s not medically recognized in the DSM or likewise, please understand that even CPTSD isn’t recognized in the DSM at this point in the US even though folks are actively being diagnosed with it and treated for it. books like that are revised once in a blue moon, there are new terms being made to describe experiences constantly, things take time.

[creature-wizard]

A warning for trauma survivors looking for online support

You may have come across the acronym "RAMCOA", which stands for "ritual abuse, mind control, and organized abuse."

If you search the Internet for RAMCOA, you might come across a result like this:

If you click the link, you'll be taken to a site that briefly describes what RAMCOA supposedly is, with content like:

MC - Mind Control. A shortened form of TBMC, standing for Torture Based Mind Control. MC is also known as programming, where victims are repeatedly tortured starting at a very young age to intentionally cause a system of dissociated parts that function perfectly to suit the abusers' needs.

alpha : a base program, one of the very first implemented. it trains the victim's mind to accept every order given by handlers willingly. parts with alpha programming will often have no will of their own, and very little personality outside of following orders.

aiw : alice in wonderland. typically split into 3 different sections : black alice, white alice, and crazy alice. ideally, a system scripted with aiw would have all three. white alice makes sure the system forgets the trauma, black alice makes the system feel like theyll be a danger to others if they remember the trauma, and crazy alice makes the system think theyre making it up or going insane if they ever remember it.

Literally all of this comes from a conspiracy theory - specifically, the Project Monarch alter programming conspiracy. It was developed and pushed by far right conspiracy theorists. Most of what people run into specifically traces back to Fritz Springmeier, a man who claimed in the 90's that the fight for gay rights was part of a plot to enthrone the antichrist in the year 2000. The Project Monarch conspiracy theory was always adjacent to the Satanic Panic, if not a somewhat niche part of it. If you start checking citations, you will find many of these people citing Svali, a conspiracy theorist who gets a lot of her material from Springmeier. (Example 1, example 2.)

This is no accident. The term RAMCOA was created by the International Society for the Study of Trauma and Dissociation (ISSTD), which was created by and for psychologists who believed in the myths promoted during the Satanic Panic.

The RA part comes from "satanic ritual abuse," which was coined by Dr. Lawrence Pazder of Michelle Remembers (cw for descriptions of horrible abuses) fame. Lawrence Pazder is the man who effectively started the Satanic Panic. It cannot be overstated that Pazder, now a known malpractitioner, was considered the expert on ritual abuse during this time.

The MC part comes from "trauma-based mind control," which was coined to refer to the alleged abuses inflicted in Project Monarch. Parts of this conspiracy theory that can't be traced back to Fritz Springmeier can usually be traced back to Cathy O'Brien and Mark Phillips, two other (really racist) conspiracy theorists.

Ultimately, the entire conspiracy theory is constructed from tropes that go back to The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion (a known antisemitic hoax), blood libel, and early modern witch panic.

Searching the Internet for RAMCOA resources, ritual abuse, or trauma-based mind control will always bring you to conspiracy theorists.

(Also, the term OEA, which stands for "organized extreme abuse," will lead you to conspiracy theorists as well.)

So yeah, if you're looking for support, be very wary of this stuff. It will absolutely not help you heal; just the opposite.

[granulesofsand]

Reasons people underestimate the prevalence of RAMCOA:

Untraumatized people don’t think about trauma nearly as much as survivors

People don’t know what the signs are. Trainings are shitty when given, attendees don’t think they’ll need to use the information, and trainings offered are usually online and easy to walk away from

Mandatory reporters don’t usually follow through their contracts. This is sometimes a good thing, but it can leave room in the wrong places for endangered children

People who know the signs will ignore them. They think it unlikely, that they’re overreacting, or they just don’t notice

Survivors are quiet. Speaking up puts us in danger, and more people think of us as media material than peers

The police don’t do jack shit for us. Some stations train officers to overlook our cases, and it’s difficult to take to court if a survivor wants to. In larger cases, government works with organized criminal groups that perpetrate or do so themselves for research

We’re a test question. The only time we are brought up in psychology classrooms is if they want to nod to a DID diagnosis. Few therapists are educated and willing to take us on as clients

Abusers know how to make connections with local authority. In high control groups, members may be taught how to abuse and evade interception

All of this makes it hard to report anywhere how many survivors exist free, and the low numbers in turn make us less believable when we do report

RAMCOA includes severe religious abuse, manipulative coercion, programming, cults, trafficking rings, criminal gangs, and more. Survivors are your coworkers, neighbors, cashiers, librarians.

Signs to look for:

Ritual Abuse

History of self-harm, substance use, sui/homicidality, especially with prescribed patterns

Unusual phobias (red or brown foods, kinds of houses, churches, hospitals, fear of the dark or being alone in adults)

Aversion to or obsession with the occult/witchcraft or other faith traditions

Patterns of nightmares, aversions or obsessions with common or nondescript themes (gore, needles, bugs, rodents, monsters, babies, men or women)

Sudden or irresistible urge to relocate, recontact abusers, participate in abusive ceremonies

High pain tolerance

Repeated phrases with violent, aggressive or religious themes

Mind Control and Coercion

Unquestioning obedience of a person or doctrine

Defers to another, speaks as though scripted, frequently accompanied by another or has to ask permission inappropriate for their age

Sudden or dramatic change in behavior, hobbies, or long-standing habits

Refusal to consume media unless approved by another/without further explanation

Anxious or idealized descriptions of childhood home and family, unable to recall these things

No memory of childhood or missing years

Multiple self-states, especially in high quantities

Organized Abuse and Trafficking

Disconnection from peers, family and friends

Does not attend community events or faith services or is perpetually preoccupied with a single group

Repeated unexplained absences from work or school

Disoriented, confused or dissociated for long periods of time or without explanation

Fearful or self-persecutory behavior, especially with allusions to another person or group

Bruises, broken skin or other wounds in various stages of healing

Minors engaging in commercial sex (including CSEM or survival sex)

Timid, skittish, fearful or submissive behaviors (including when this is the norm)

Malnourished, dehydrated, exhausted or with untreated ails

Without belongings or suitable living space

Many indicators of abuses flow together, as do the events themselves. It’s common that RA and OA perps use MC to keep victims in line, and techniques are often implemented by default in abusive environments. A group using RA or MC also qualifies as OA. This is why the community acronym includes all three.

There are more discreet examples for each. It’s possible to find many symptoms of RAMCOA and have none of those maltreatments as the cause. It’s possible to have none and still be abused.

Noticing indicators in children should be followed up by alerting any available reliable authority. Children sometimes disclose using metaphors or slang words they have been taught, so keep this in mind if you work with them.

[outnumberedsins]

Scripts: What are they, and what aren't they?

Unfortunately, scripts have been subject to major misinformation within certian OEA spaces. Examples are terms such as 'miniscripts', how many scripts a system can have, what media can be a script, etc. This post will cover all of that, as well as provide sources to the best of my ability. These sources contain material that can be triggering, so please tred carefully.

What are scripts?

The term 'script' itself is linked to svalispeaks, who is not a good source. However, the concept itself is documented and referenced to in other ways, so please keep that in mind.

Simply put, a 'script' is a piece of media used as an internal organization program to lay out a systems innerworld, hierarchy, and parts. When done properly, scripts will be a seen in almost everything in a systems internal parts. Those scripted in a particular media will have alters based on characters and a piece of the innerworld based on the universe, each serving a specifically programmed purpose.[1, chp 4 & 6][2 , pg 94]

Scripting will typically begin in infancy or very young age, as any programming does. [3][4][5] This is because the older the child is, the more difficult it is to implement programming, as possible dissociative responses and state of integration have already begun to develop. [6]

Groups that attempt scripting are typically large, sophisticated and organized, as they require a substantial amount of space and time (ex. Multiple rooms and prompts, ability to perform wide ranges of abuse, ability to have frequent access to child). [3][4][5][7 , chp 2 & 4]

Internal structures are common in those who have dealt with TBMC. However, not all of them are scripts. The difference between other structures and scripts are the addition of specific media, such as a religious book, to outline the system.

Scripts vs Forced Introjection

Programmed Introject =/= Script =/= Forced Introject

People often confuse forced introjection for scripts. Sometimes, survivors may even confuse a general introject for a part of a script. While scripts do involve forced introjection, not all forced introjection is scripting.

A script involves more than one alter, programmed around one another, as well as effects to the system structure, innerworlds, and applied programs. Forced introjection does not have to be a part of a script, or even part of OEA at all.

A common example of non-scripted forced introjects, that may themselves be programmed, are abuser introjects. These introjects can be programmed, but may not be a part of a script. [8 , pg 51]

Outside of that, systems may have forced introjects that aren't programmed, or involved in OEA at all. This could be possible from further abuse at a later date, where the perpetrator utilizes the persons CDD to try and get them to split a certian introject. This could be an example of conditioning, but not programming.

Myths and Misinformation:

1. Any piece of media can be a script.

1a. Viable media for scripting must be simple enough for a young child to understand, must have clear and reoccurring themes and morals, and has a consistent storyline. This is due to age of the victim. Media that has been around for a long time are more than likely able to fit these things, along with the fact that repeat adaptations and reoccurrence of the story is common. New, complicated, and long pieces of media make scripting extremely difficult or impossible. Groups that do have the resources to script victims are more likely to resort to tried and true methods, and media that reflects their values [ex. Religious documents], rather then making up an entirely new scripting method.

2. There is no limit on the number of scripts you can have.

2a. Due to the nature of scripts being the complete base of the system, or a major part of it, it would be incredibly difficult to implement more than one script without it failing and breaking down. The child would become very confused and internal structures wouldn't work as required. There is hardly any reason to have more than one script anyways, given the time and effort gone in to creating one.

3. 'Miniscripts.'

3a. 'Miniscripts' are the idea of a script that purposely only involves one layer, or only a couple of alters. While it is possible to have failed or broken programming that results in a broken script, the purpose of a script itself means that it will inhabit more than just a small area of the system. Like previously mentioned, the presence of multiple scripts can easily cause dysfunction and break down the system. Often, 'miniscripts' are just other organizational programming, forced introjection, or simply introjects by themselves.

4. Every TBMC survivor with a CDD has a script.

4a. This is completely false. In fact, it's likely less common to have a script, let alone a fully functioning/complete one, due to the time and effort it takes to implement. You can be programmed and not have a script. It's possible to not have a script yet have other organizational programming. You do not need one.

Specific Scripts:

There were a lot of sources on this matter that I've found but don't particularly trust, but have been sited by ones I do. For this reason I have left out mentions of specific scripts as I didn't have detailed references. However, for the sake of this post, I'd like to mention these following specific scripts I've seen mentioned, however brief, in reading:

The Wizard of Oz

Alice In Wonderland

Nursery Rhymes and Fairy Tales

Original Disney Princesses

Religious Texts

This is not to say these are the only scripts possible, ever. These are just ones I've seen referenced to in a clinical sense, and thus I assume are the most common.

Thank you for reading. If you have any questions, feel free to send an ask or reply to this post. A reminder that I am not a professional, I am flawed, and am just doing my best.

[shitty-proendo-blackout-posts]

oh What is going on here

[multiplicity-positivity]

Here’s some positivity for HC-DID systems!

Highly complex DID, or programmed DID, is a colloquially coined label for systems who have faced programming in some way as an aspect of their trauma history. This form of DID can occur as a result of ritual abuse, organized abuse, and/or mind control, and can leave systems with purposefully formed alters, polyfragmentation, complex internal structures and splitting patterns, and more. HC-DID systems are important members of our community, and deserve to be shown kindness and positivity and treated with respect! Here’s to all the HC-DID systems out there!

🌱 Shoutout to those who are questioning if their system is complex or highly complex in some way!

🌺 Shoutout to HC-DID systems who cannot remember any of their trauma or effectively manage triggers!

🌿 Shoutout to systems with programmed alters who are working to understand how being programmed has impacted their life!

🌼 Shoutout to HC-DID systems who are unable or unwilling to learn about programming at all!

🪴 Shoutout to HC-DID systems who learned about their highly complex nature through therapy or some other form of recovery!

💐 Shoutout to HC-DID systems whose alters have highly specific or specialized roles!

☘️ Shoutout to HC-DID systems with clusters, side systems, or subsystems that are difficult for them to interact with or understand!

🌹 Shoutout to polyfragmented HC-DID systems with a very high alter or fragment count!

🍃 Shoutout to HC-DID systems who have no fully formed or developed headmates, with all alters or parts having a predefined program, role, or purpose!

🌷 Shoutout to those in HC-DID systems who are afraid of their own systems or who are scared of interacting with certain parts, alters, or memories!

🌾 Shoutout to those who wish it was easier to talk about and try to understand their own experiences as HC-DID systems in plural spaces!

To any HC-DID system who sees this, we want to let you know that we see you, we care about you, and we want to support and uplift you however we can! Your voice matters, your system matters, and we are so very proud of all that you have accomplished. Know that just by taking it day by day and trying to live your best life, you have achieved so much, and you deserve recognition and celebration!

We genuinely hope that you can find peace, rest, comfort, recovery, and self-acceptance in your future. Know that no matter how much or little you know about your system, you are real, your trauma was real, and you are deserving of respect, kindness, and understanding today and every day! We are wishing the very best for you and your system, and are rooting for you in all that you do. Thank you so much for reading, and have a wonderful day!

[mischiefmanifold]

Do you have any resources for RAMCOA? Resources for like...the types of programs and stuff like that. We're going through things and trying to research and pinpoint things, but finding resources has been absolute hell. If you get this twice, I'm sorry. Our tumblr is kind of shit.

Hello! I have several resources that I think may be helpful to you:

This document (LINK) of "rare programs" and their descriptions, posted by @killercatboys.

Chapters 4 and 7 of Becoming Yourself by Alison Miller (LINK) discuss programming and chapter 7 includes an anecdote with specific programs and definitions. The entire book is really a great read and is geared towards survivors of RAMCOA, just be sure to take it slow and take care of yourself.

Common Programs Observed in Survivors of Satanic Ritualistic Abuse by David W. Neswald (LINK) - massive trigger warning for suicide, self-harm, and abuse.

Spin Programming: A Newly Uncovered Technique of Systematic Mind Control by John D. Lovern (LINK) - includes symptoms, implementation, and uses of spin programs; trigger warning for abuse/torture methods.

Healing the Unimaginable by Alison Miller (LINK) is geared towards therapists and professionals and includes more in-depth information about RAMCOA than Becoming Yourself does. Again, massive trigger warning throughout the book for RAMCOA.

Kinds of Torture Endured in Ritual Abuse and Trauma-Based Mind Control by Ellen P. Lacter (LINK) - partial list of torture methods used in RAMCOA; trigger warning for abuse, near-death, and torture.

Mind Control: Simple to Complex by Ellen P. Lacter (LINK) - describes twelve "stages" of mind control and programming, going from outward compliance to torture/trauma-based mind control; trigger warning for descriptions of abuse.

Some Indicators of Trauma-Based Mind Control Programming by Ellen P. Lacter (LINK) provides common indicators of TBMC; most survivors of programming will have many of these indicators, but their presence does not prove the existence of TBMC and their absence does not prove that one has not experienced TBMC.

Adult and Adolescent Indicators of Ritual Trauma by Ellen P. Lacter (LINK) provides indicators of ritual abuse in teens and adults; as with the last bullet point, their presence does not prove ritual abuse and their absence does not disprove it.

Child Indicators of Ritual Abuse Trauma in Play and Art by Ellen P. Lacter (LINK) provides potential indicators of ritualized abuse in children and pre-teens; as with the previous two bullet points, their presence does not prove ritual abuse and their absence does not disprove it.

[scavangers-daughter]

Transramcoa people stop cross tagging in RAMCOA tags challenge

[unwelcome-ozian]

hey!! if i was already a did system due to unrelated trauma events during the ages two to nine and then i expirienced ramcoa and split more alters and had ramcoa related trauma would that still count as ramcoa? or would that be considered something different? thank you!

I'm not certain what you're asking.

RAMCOA is an acronym. 

RA-Ritual abuse is a brutal form of abuse of children, adolescents, and adults, consisting of physical, sexual, psychological and spiritual abuse, and the use of rituals. The physical abuse is severe, sometimes including torture. The sexual abuse is often painful, sadistic, and humiliating, intended as a means of gaining control over the victim. The psychological abuse is devastating and involves the use of rites, which may include mind-control techniques, mind-altering drugs, and intimidation which conveys to the victim a profound terror of the abusers. Ritual abuse doesn’t always involve spiritual abuse.

MC-Mind control is the process by which individual or collective freedom of choice and action is compromised by agents or agencies that modify or distort perception, motivation, affect, cognition and/or behavioral outcomes. It is important to note that conditioning alone is not considered a form of MC under the RAMCOA umbrella. Most forms of abuse contain some level of conditioning.

OA-Organised Abuse is a term for abuse that is conducted in an organized manner. It's usually composed of multiple abusers that work cooperatively, creating, planning, and conducting repeated abuse towards one or more victims. This is often done with intent to manipulate them into believing, perpetuating, or completing specific goals.

TBMC-Trauma Based Mind Control programming can be defined as systematic torture that blocks the victim’s capacity for conscious processing (through pain, terror, drugs, illusion, sensory deprivation, sensory over-stimulation, oxygen deprivation, cold, heat, spinning, brain stimulation, and often, near-death), and then employs suggestion and/or classical and operant conditioning (consistent with well-established behavioral modification principles) to implant thoughts, directives, and perceptions in the unconscious mind, often in newly-formed trauma-induced dissociated identities, that force the victim to do, feel, think, or perceive things for the purposes of the programmer. The objective is for the victim to follow directives with no conscious awareness, including execution of acts in clear violation of the victim’s moral principles, spiritual convictions, and volition. Installation of mind control programming relies on the victim’s capacity to dissociate, which permits the creation of new walled-off personalities to “hold” and “hide” programming. — Quoted from Ellen P. Lacter, Ph.D

OEA-Organised Extreme Abuse his acronym was created by the International Society for the Study of Trauma and Dissociation (ISSTD). OEA describes the structured manipulation of attachment needs through extreme conditioning and sadistic torture. Abusers employ "creative" methods to exploit victims, leveraging their belief systems and core values against them. OEA is concisely described as abuse with a purpose, highlighting the use of severe violence to indoctrinate or "train" victims in alignment with an established ideology.

[creature-wizard]

Like, antisemitism is a huge factor in the Project Monarch/alter programming/trauma-based mind control myth, but people have got to understand that it's also recycled witch panic. Like, all of the disgusting and immoral stuff they supposedly do at their rituals is literally right out of old witch hunters' manuals.

[requiemsystem]

hi guys, i posted this on my other non-oea focused tumblr account but id like to post it here too in case any of you may be interested

i just now finished setting up a discord server that is targeted towards oea / ramcoa survivors and c-did systems in general, if you are interested in joining please feel free!

we have several role locked chats for different topics (including ramcoa / oea) and a normal reasonable blacklist

we are also looking for staff because i just made this server today

you dont need to be an oea survivor to join, just be normal basically

[borderlinedolly]

What Is Clocking?

Clocking is an ability many RAMCOA survivors have to varying degrees. They can tell when someome is a RAMCOA victim. Certain survivors (typically high ranking ones) can clock victims down to their rank and possibly branch. Less common are the ones who can clock victims down to their role and sect. Low ranking victims can typically clock those who are superior to them.

Logically, this is a useful ability as sects can have thousands of members and you can't possibly remember all of them. Being able to tell who your superiors are will help keep you alive. Similarly, you can also tell when someone is lower than you/"usable". Programmers can clock people to know who they can exploit.

It is a real ability and dangerous people can and will use it to their advantage. It is not fear mongering, it is the horrifying truth of being a RAMCOA survivor. We are not safe anywhere, pretending we are will not protect us or help us survive. Being aware of the dangers can help you try to keep yourselves as safe as possible.

Here are some ways to protect yourself: keep yourself as grounded as possible while outside and avoid switching to vulnerable alters, don't talk to strangers and stay away from anyone who gives you a weird feeling.

Saying clocking isn't real won't help you if a programmer spots you.

[oiouoiiiokkm]

trying to fight with programs

they fight back

this programs never were so hard on me

i’m scared but if i don’t deprogram it i will die anyway

[ramcoas]

Stop sharing the group(s) you were part of online. Stop sharing intimate details of your trauma online. Stop sharing names, dates, locations. For your own fucking safety.

This is not a game. I’m not saying dont consume information about ramcoa - i encourage you to do so in a manner that is safe - but you do need to understand that your personal safety, as well as the safety of others, is at risk when you start speaking about specifics on the internet. Talk with a therapist, write it in a diary if you have to, but PLEASE stop sharing these things on the internet.

[granulesofsand]

🗝️🏷️ discussion of RAMCOA with nonphysical examples, sh/suicide

For every person I see opening up about RAMCOA, there’s another telling the world to never so much as glance in its direction. We are shit at tone sometimes, so not to be rude, but I do have reasons I dislike the silence.

Reading about tortured children should never be comfortable, and if you have no reason to suspect a similar history, you can filter away the nastiness. We will never be able to have that ignorance, even if our front-facing alters don’t remember.

If you do suspect a history or end up having one, congrats! Time to start deprogramming. Chances are if you went through this flavor of hell, the stability you have is a cover for your involvement, past or current. Either way, I’ve never seen someone survive without any side effects, and addressing the problem is the only way to actually solve it.

Omega (death/sh) programs can be activated by looking into trauma material. Any trauma material. And a good amount of other stuff, like trying to leave your area or not reporting back to an assigned group member. Our omega programs have been passively problematic for years, and our first active cases were around 4 years old. It’s a common program line, and some groups install functioning versions very young. We did not know about any kind of abuse at 4, despite being trafficked and regularly hurt our whole life. It was triggered by existing too close to a ritual site, and we had sh behaviors and runaway attempts for ‘knowing too much’.

We were taught by abusers that what they were doing was good and normal at the same time they were teaching us we were dirty for living it and nobody would believe us. Pretty much all of that category was just convincing us not to tell on them, with punishment for breaking cult rules. We’ve read about survivors taking the ‘Golden Rule’ as ‘Silence’, and we have a similar experience. Any breaking of the quiet without direct harm at their hands is another inch towards safety. If we can convince ourselves they really did lie about their omnipotence, we can shake some programs based in those beliefs.

We were told that our system/body specifically was bad and wrong, and that these things happened to us because we deserved it. We don’t hold the same standard for outsiders, and their stories make us think we might not have been predestined for the life we got.

Outsiders who have no trauma history, and sometimes those who do, can be pretty insensitive. We have been harassed for having been sexually assaulted, called names for telling/not telling parts of our story, and insulted in various unpleasant ways because we were forced to perpetrate. We still commonly get a reaction of disbelief, even after months of building trust and then giving only vague summaries. The more people hear about this form of maltreatment and its effects, the higher their tolerance will be when someone needs them to show up.

It makes us feel more secure in our own memories when other survivors have similar experiences. To know that it can actually be that bad, it isn’t the norm, and others have gotten out and started healing is more weight off our shoulders I knew we carried. I, and other alters, have shame pits that we can sink into quick. The pure validation of knowing it happened, the flex tape of understanding it wasn’t their fault, the basis for comparison we have never had in anyone but our abusers. It helps us, even if it also hurts.

Silence is what they wanted. ‘They’ being the pedophile rings, cults, and other organized groups that rely on programming children and anyone else they got their hands on for profit. I genuinely do believe more people fit into our community than currently admit, and the gray doesn’t become visible until you open your eyes to the damn black and white.

[unwelcome-ozian]

Dr. Hal Pepinsky, Professor Department of Criminal Justice Indiana University

I am Hal Pepinsky. I teach Criminal Justice at Indiana University in Bloomington, Indiana and have been in criminology for more than twenty-five years. In my own opinion, what I have learned of mind control and ritual abuse makes me think there is no more important problem of personal violence for us to know about in the part of the world I come from. If we are to have any faith at all in our government we very much need for the government to look into ritual abuse and mind control experiments, and to hear from the survivors. Mr. President, I very much hope that you will have this matter aired so that we can learn what part of our government we can trust.