#queer platonic analogical

[goldenduckie]

Exploding them with my mind

[mvrphysart]

qpp cuddles <333

[firewolf111]

Request from @amateurmasksmith QPR analogical (how they confessed)

Virgil and Logan: *staring at each other awkwardly at the end of a conversation*

Virgil: ...

Logan: ...

*both speaking at the same time*

Virgil: I like you! / Logan: I'm aromantic.

Logan: Oh, this is... awkward.

Virgil: No, it's fine. I meant that I liked you platonically. Like very much. Like I love you, but not in the please date me kinda way. More in the I'd love to date you but only if you want to and it doesn't have to be romantic or anything I just want to be with you in a loving way.

Virgil: *sucking in a breath* Shoot. I had this all planned out on exactly how I would say it and explain it, yet I screwed it up. I fumbled so hard, didn't I? I should go. *turns to leave*

Logan: Wait!

Virgil: *stopping and looking at him*

Logan: Have you ever heard of a queer platonic relationship? A QPR?

Virgil: Oh yeah. I read a fanfic where the two main characters got into one. I ended up going down a research rabbit hole. It's actually how I realized that I loved you platonically. And then I realized that I loved you, a lot. Like a lot, a lot. Even if it is platonic.

Virgil: But what does that have to do with... oh. OH! You want to- with me. Does that mean you- or are you just doing it because- maybe-

Logan: Virgil. Yes, I want to be in a QPR with you, if you'd be okay with that. I...love you too, platonically. I was afraid you'd turn away if you found out I couldn't love you romantically, which is why I never confessed. So yes, I'm asking, would you like to be in a QPR with me?

Virgil: Oh, cool. That's...cool. Very cool. *Walks away and goes back to his room*

Logan: That's... not an answer.

Logan returns to his room, completely confused. But it's okay, because later Virgil sends him a text. When Logan opens it, he sees a link to a fanfic and the singular word "yes". And despite the vagueness of the text, Logan knows exactly what it means.

Maybe the two of them were proof that platonic soulmates existed.

.................

Hope you enjoyed and hope I did your request justice! Have a great day and thank you for the request. <3

[pencilpat]

I ship almost every sanders sides ship but also they are all, without exception, aroace, hope that helps 👍

[yangscowlick]

Because the “shrodinger’s queerbait” nonsense will never go away, indulge me an analogy (and a long post).

wlw ships are the “made from scratch” cake in a world where we only ever expect cake mix from the box.

Say you have a show where, in the first interaction between a male and female character, there is a red box. It could be a Betty Crocker box of cake mix. Because all it takes is just one smile — one wink — one raised eyebrow— and the fans don’t question it. We’re clearly making a cake here. The box is red.

Meanwhile, you have two female characters building their own relationship that have elements that could build to romance. There are eggs in the fridge. A few more episodes, there’s flour in the pantry. Sugar. Baking powder. Queer fans start whispering…we could be making a cake here. Other fans scoff “you will read into anything. They’re just eggs! Everyone has eggs in their fridge!” Maybe so, maybe not. They are written off as discrete ingredients, nothing to see here.

That red box is still sitting in the pantry. Obviously we’re going with that one, and it’s definitely cake mix. That guy and girl stood next to each other again.

The wlw relationship is now full-on batter. It was a cake recipe all along, but it’s not baked yet. The crowd that wrote off every ingredient is now saying the writers are just going to “squander” that box that could be ready-made cake mix or that they’re being “forced” to bake a cake with the very ingredients the writers deliberately bought and put in their pantry.

Now it’s in the oven, the cake is baking. That crowd will still insist it’s forced, or maybe its actually something else, or it’s rushed, or it’s pandering. Whether the writers painstakingly built a pantry to make the cake they truly wanted or they were cultivating good ingredients and realized they had the fixings for a more decadent cake and went there, it doesn’t matter. It’s still a recipe. One that fans who always have to piece together ingredients had hoped for or saw from the get-go, despite being scoffed at and disparaged. Just because that crowd didn’t see (or refused to see) those ingredients as part of a whole, doesn’t make it any less of a recipe.

And wlw fans shouldn’t have to keep writing essays to demonstrate that the wlw “cake” has all the ingredients every cake mix does, or keep pointing out that fans were ready to believe a cake was being baked when they saw a nondescript box, but that they’ll do anything to discredit or doubt the cake from scratch that’s now cooling off on the counter.

It is partly a function of heteronormativity from the audience in immediately seeing romance in any whisper of interaction between m/f characters and passing off all charged interactions between female characters are sisterly or platonic. And it also comes from writers, who are either being cautious so as not to spook corporate overlords or audiences, or who are preserving plausible deniability.

To take the analogy further, box cake mix is fine! It works! It is, practically speaking, what a lot of folks know by default. I thought I was a Duncan Hines girl once myself. Vanilla cake mix has the ingredients measured out, it’s a safe bet, it tastes like cake.

But it doesn’t mean every red box is cake mix. And it doesn’t make the cake that had to be pieced together from scratch due to censorship, caution, time, narrative build-up, what-have-you, any less of a cake.

[moon-buggg]

Hiiiiii, I just read your first chapter for ‘I want to believe’ and I like the way it’s formed with details and we get a good idea of the world around us through both perspectives. I don’t know why this detail specifically stuck out to me. For Sun our eyes are somehow big and we think theirs are small. Another little piece in the story that stuck with me is when Sun ‘pets’Moon’s tendrils/head peace’s? back. I don’t know why, but I just adore those two moments for some reason. I also like the variety in the looks of others for example, the dude who kidnapped us, and also the fact there are translators and different languages. 

(By the way are Sun and Moon brothers, best friends, or more?)

I'm glad you like it! I had a lot of fun writing the different perspectives I think it really adds a lot to this kind of story ^^ I love adding little details to make the world feel more alive and I'm happy you picked up on them!

Sun and Moon are life partners, analogous to a human romantic partner or queer platonic partner. Their relationship is kind of in between romantic and platonic, but its definately more than best friends

[pally-plate]

I just learned about alterous attraction and…

It perfectly describes how I feel. I don’t think google really explains it very well, so I’ll explain it how I saw it explained.

So basically, it’s the a-nonbinary version of love (a-nonbinary is where you’re outside of the binary as well as removed from the nonbinary spectrum, you’re your own thing.).

So, romantic is one end of the spectrum, and platonic is the other end. Queer-platonic is everywhere else on the spectrum. But alterous attraction is completely separated from the spectrum. It’s just its own type of attraction.

‘Romantic’ can also be replaced with any other type of attraction, such as sexual, aesthetic, sensual, etc, I’m just focusing on romantic attraction since that’s the one I was most confused about, so it’s the one I connect with the most.

I used this analogy to explain it to one of my friends and I think I got it down perfectly, exactly how I feel:

My attraction is like: warhead vs a Swedish fish. (Romantic and platonic attraction.) If you eat them both at once, it’s both sour and sweet at the same time, and you can’t really tell where one candy starts and the other ends. (Both of them mixed together would be queerplatonic attraction). But my attraction to people is more like a tart nerds candy. It’s still candy, and it still has a bit of sour and a bit of sweet mixed in, but at the end of the day, it’s its own flavor.

Feel free to use this analogy if you wish, no need to credit me, but please keep it related to alterous attraction if you do choose to use it.

But yeah, I’m very proud of this analogy, as it perfectly describes how I feel attraction to other people.

[qpr-culture-is]

please explain how a qpr works and what it is like im a five year old pls thx

qprs can work differently for everyone. the thing that makes it queer is the fact that there aren't any set boundaries or standards like in romantic and platonic relationships. for some, this may mean having the commitment and closeness of that of a romantic relationship but there isn't any romantic attraction involved, for others it may be a combination of strong platonic and romantic feelings that don't feel like they fit into any box. there are many, many different other types of qprs out there too. if the relationship/feelings you have with/toward someone don't feel like they fit the label of a romantic or platonic, they may be queerplatonic

in simple terms, a qpr is any relationship that has the commitment of a romantic relationship that isn't inherently romantic or platonic. while it may have apescts of both, it can also have aspects that are completely new and different

offering up my dessert analogy again:

imagine cake as your romantic relationships, and pie as your platonic ones.

sometimes people want a little bit of both desserts, creating a combination of the two that creates something entirely different; a qpr.

hopefully that helped!

[our-queerplatonic-experience]

hello!

sorry if this isn’t the right place to ask - I just found your blog; it has good vibes, and I thought I’d give it a shot:

how do you tell the difference between a squish and… really cool friendship vibes?

like how romance is described as butterflies and racing heart - but I’ve not seen a lot of those sorts of analogies for qpr things.

ik they’re up to individual interpretation - ‘make your own box’ and all that - but I’m still uncertain of the… symptoms, for lack of a better term

(it doesn’t help that I’m pretty oblivious when it comes to feelings… Also, it might(?) be some kind of -flux thing?? Idk, feelings are weird /lh)

…I’m probably overthinking this, lol

i get it a LOT lmao

i think you've gotta change your mindset around this

people feel this way with platonic and romantic relationships. the "symptoms" are confusing and maybe don't all apply. so the queerplatonic label was created. queer platonic is the third box, it doesn't really have "symptoms", just common experiences. what really matters is the label you feel most comfortable and happy with. if you lean towards friendship it's friendship, if you lean towards queerplatonic it's queerplatonic. i understand if that doesn't click tho, i felt like that for a while too. sometimes the best option is to just leave your feelings unlabeled and try to accept that. it's really all up to you

[dime-a-time11916]

About Me ;)

I’m Dime.

I like Raccoons 🦝

They/Them

Queer Platonic partner: @fyrebendyr

Likes

Cooking and Baking

Cosplay

Art, Photography, Animation, etc.

Gymnastics

Watching emotionally traumatizing media to feel something

Music

70’s and 80’s (Come on Eileen by Dexys Midnight Runners and Chiquitita by ABBA)

Movie soundtracks (Interstellar by Hans Zimmer and La La Land by Justin Hurwitz)

Pure chaos (Two Trucks by Lemon Demon and A Look In by Kwite)

Vent? (Trauma and Remember This by NF )

Orchestral (Experience by Ludovico Einaudi)

Liminal (Snowfall by Øneheart)

The brainrot

Actor of my hyper fixation: Dylan O’Brien

Shows and Movies

X-men 97 (Marvel)

Teen Wolf (MTV)

Daredevil (Marvel)

The punisher (Marvel)

ROTTMNT (Nickelodeon)

Community (nbc)

Maze Runner (James Dashner)

Lego Batman (DC)

The Perks Of Being A Wallflower (Stephen Chbosky)

Core Characters of my obsession

Jason Todd/Red Hood (DC)

Dick Grayson/Nightwing (DC)

Remy LeBeau/Gambit (X-Men)

Logan/Wolverine (X-Men)

Bucky Barnes/Winter Soldier (Marvel)

Wade Wilson/Deadpool (Marvel)

Donatello (ROTTMNT)

Stiles Stilinski(Teen Wolf)

Peter Parker/Spider-Man (TASM)

Troy and Abed (Community)

Grian (Hermitcraft)

Eddie/Venom (Marvel)

Games

Life Is Strange

Stardew valley

Minecraft

Class of ‘09

Fnaf

Horror

The oldest view and backrooms (Kane Pixels)

Liminal spaces

Wendigoon (YouTuber )

Creepcast (Podcast)

Mandela catalogs (Alex Kister)

Analog horror

Generation Loss (Ranboo)

[goldenduckie]

Star analogical ✨⭐️✨ somewhat inspired by this post by @oatmeal-stans-the-trash-rat

Intended to be queer platonic!

[monkeythefander]

Hello, I saw your request for requests, and I would like to ask for Analogical studying together. Whether that be them helping Thomas study, or just the two of them, I'm not picky, they're just my favorite ship!

(Let's hope for the best in these dismal times...)

@cursed-shipper on Tumblr requested I draw Analogical studying, so here’s them having a late night Astronomy study session. Whether the Analogical is platonic, queer platonic, or romantic is up to you.

(And I agree, let’s hope for the best right now)

[eclipian]

Can i have the medusa virus 

The Medusa Virus Headmate

pt: the medusa virus headmate

reminder beings will almost definitely not turn out exactly as described, and these can be edited and changed as needed.

apart of the analog horror keywords

divider credit + picrew credit

“ Their taking out all our senses “

Name: Medusa , Athena , Aphrodite , Petra , Fossil , Amber , Juliet , Margaret , Flint , Peer , Peep , Numb

Age: 21

Pronouns: She/Her , Sh👁️/H👁️r , He/Him , H👁️/H👁️m , No/Nos , Blind/Blinds , Loss/Lost , Num/Numb , Stone/Stones , Marb/Marbel , Eye/Eyes , Vic/Victim , Dead/Deads , Dead/Death , X/Xs, RiP/RiPs , 👁️/👁️s , ❌/❌s , ‼️/‼️s , 🪨/🪨s

Gender: Boygirl , Hard Femme , Hehemme , Boyfemme , Tyflosianintesi , Abacinandusgender , Stonic , Musqua , Rockpilic

Attraction: Aroace , Queer Platonic

Other ID: Alderpetra , Dissomedusavirus , Dissoblind , Dissonoeat , Dissonodrink , Dissonobreath

Species: Human

Role: Paranoia Holder , Shock Absorber , Persecutor-Protector

Aesthetics: Analog Horror, Digital Horror

pt: name , age , pronouns , gender , attraction , other ids , species , role , aesthetics

tagging: @bahtive

[bloggingboutburgers]

Okay you seem like a pretty good person to ask about queer platonic relationships. I don’t really know all that much about them but honestly it seems like a pretty fluid thing so there's not much to define or know anyway.

My main question is are queerplatonic relationships only for aros/aces?

I am a lesbian, not on the aro/ace spectrum and I am very comfortable with this. However, I seem to have gotten into a qpr and I wondered. Neither of us have gone and said we're in a qpr because labels are not generally our thing, but we know how eachother feel and it seems to line roughly up with a qpr.

She is ace. You would think that I would start developing sexual feelings towards her, but I've known her for 6 years and been incredibly close for 2, so I think sexual feelings would have come by now. But they haven't. I do know I love her to the moon and back. I want to spend my whole life with her and let her fall asleep in my arms, but I don't want to kiss her or anything. She is my most precious person and I'd do anything for her.

To be perfectly honest, even though I'm not ace my sex drive has never been the highest and its not something I'd miss incredibly. Like yeah it's nice, but so are doughnuts and I could live without doughnuts. Weird analogy but whatever.

I've never had the greatest grip on platonic and romantic feelings, but I'm pretty sure what I feel for her is not romantic but beyond platonic. This person makes me the happiest I have ever been in my life, and I could genuinely not imagine getting a girlfriend because I know no one would be more important to me than her.

But tbh, at the end of the day I kinda actually do not care what she is to me because I'm incredibly happy and I know what I feel is reciprocated. Sorry for waffling I wanted someone to rant to.

jfdiklgfd You're all good – and sorry for replying so late!! TwT

That actually sounds incredibly sweet 🥺 I wish you guys all the best!!

Said it before in a reblog not too long ago, but I don't think QPRs ought to be reserved only for aro-ace people, as long as vibes are there and boundaries are respected!

And what you guys have, whatever you want to label it, be it a QPR or not (that's your call really I think), seems to make you very happy, so yeah, honestly I wish you the best

[ssaseaprince]

I swear anyone who says Hannibal and Will aren't canon just didn't watch the show. It's not implied, it's not hinted, it's not subtext. It's incredibly romantic and is explicitly said so. The moment and embrace they shared at the end of season 3 was so powerful to me. Just because they didn't kiss or say "hehe want to be my boyfriend?" like they're in some teen romcom doesn't mean they aren't a canonical pairing. They got together at the END of the show after it being stated several times that they love each other and can't live without each other and want each other more than anyone. Lines like wanting to run away together and hungering for each other and "is Hannibal in love with me" are, apparently, completely platonic in some people's eyes or just wishful thinking or, christ, queerbaiting (a point I hope no one has made because it's ridiculously stupid). I'm quite happy with the end of season 3, but I'd hope for a 4th season if only, so they can be a couple on screen and people can stop being dumb about the canon of their relationship

I am so sorry that I have taken forever to reply to this, I lowkey forgot that my inbox was a thing 😅

You are completely right. I want to call it a lack of media literacy, but I'm not sure that's the best phrase. As an autistic person, I completely understand struggling with subtext and needing to have things presented in a straightforward, blunt way. However, with Hannigram, you don't even need to rely solely on subtext. Like you pointed out, Will flat out says, "Is Hannibal in love with me?" And then you've got the entire cast, the showrunner, writer, producers, etc, all saying that they are canonically in love.

And because of that, I really struggle to give people the benefit of the doubt when they say that Hannigram isn't canon or that their relationship is "open to interpretation." Because if you were solely confused due to issues with understanding subtext, then you wouldn't get all up in arms about people pointing out that Hannigram IS CANON.

This honestly leads me to believe that the very vast majority of people who will fight tooth and nail to convince everyone that Hannibal and Will aren't in love is because of homophobia.

We are not used to seeing queer relationships in media. There is maybe a handful of movies and TV shows that revolve around queer relationships. So it is people's knee-jerk reaction to assume that every character is straight and that only heterosexual relationships are canon, and it's because of this bias that they will fight against all queer representation and only accept it when the characters are physically affectionate, and even then they will find reasons to claim it's not valid.

Cishet people are a lot like white people, and men, and basically every other majority, in the way that they feel the need to relate to every single main character, otherwise they can't enjoy the show/book/movie etc. Hannibal and Will have been confirmed as canon, in and out of the show. But these people will fight against it because, whether consciously or unconsciously, the second that their characters are confirmed as queer, they immediately can't relate to them and therefore can't enjoy the show.

They see queer people and queer relationships as so *other* that queer representation literally ruins it for them. Maybe this is an extreme analogy, but it's like watching a movie about humans, and then halfway through finding out that they're robots, and all of a sudden, these aren't people that you're familiar with, they are something other. The knowledge that a character is queer is genuinely so incomprehensible to them that they will do anything to deny it.

And I think that kind of thinking is the biggest problem. It's not always done with bad intention, and it's not always conscious, but it's there. You can see actors and actresses who do the same thing. They have such a visceral reaction to the idea that their character might be queer, that they immediately shut it down. Because if the character is queer, the character isn't relatable, and if the character isn't relatable somehow, the show isn't enjoyable.

By relatable, I don't just mean, "They're straight, and I'm straight." I mean that they genuinely see queer people as completely other from them, and they just cannot grasp the existence of queer relationships as actual relationships and not just vague ideas. Yes, they know that queer relationships are real, but they genuinely can not look at a queer relationship or a queer person and actually have any level of deeper empathy and understanding. They see queer relationships are something completely different then cishet relationship, so the second that a queer relationship becomes the focus, they disengage.

This all relates back to people refusing to acknowledge any kind of queer relationship as canon unless physical affection is apparent.

Obviously, not all straight people do this, but it's an issue that's a lot more prominent than what most people think. As soon as you start looking for it, you see it everywhere. I'm not saying these people hate queer people or don't want queer representation, but this kind of homophobia is just so widely accepted and normalized that it's a knee-jerk reaction, and unfortunately, it's so normalized that people don't even realize they have these biases that they need to get rid of.

Sorry this reply is so long and late coming! I appreciate the ask and love hearing your opinions ❤️

[tokimaeki]

I normally just lurk and read other people's MILGRAM theories while keeping my own thoughts to myself but 😭 Kazui's new song just has my gears turning so much I have to share my opinion......

Between this song and the new voice drama, I think the 'Kazui is gay' theory could have way more credence than I thought.

I think that Kazui pursued his relationship with his wife out of a desire to be 'normal.' When he presents the bouquet and ring to her, the lyrics are: 'it's for the sake of true love / who wouldn't lie for that?' He lied out of a desire for normalcy. Society says that if we conform, fall in love and get married, then we'll be 'happy.' To me, it's likely that he noticed his wife-to-be's feelings for him, and decided to pursue the relationship out of a desire to appear normal, please the people around him-- and perhaps hopefully attain happiness through conformity.  

I'm not 100% sure if Kazui actually cheated or not-- maybe it was an emotional affair? Either way, he probably at the very least confessed his 'lie' to his wife-- namely, that he's gay. Did he physically cheat? I'm not sure about that yet. But he definitely did drop the 'masquerade' (his faking being straight), and that broke his wife's heart. Her marriage was built on a heap of lies, and even if Kazui did love her platonically, that still doesn't erase the heartbreak and humiliation that comes with knowing you were basically being unknowingly used as a beard by someone who you loved dearly-- someone who you assumed loved you back.

Oh, right-- another slice of evidence from the voice drama. While talking to Es, Kazui has a mini freak-out. During this, he says:

'I despise myself for lying, too. Being a liar, you see it's painful.'

'So I've tried to change! I've tried to change. I have tried to stop lying to myself and others!'

'I've confided in others. I've tried to be myself! I've tried to just be the way I was born!"

'It's not my lies that killed her. She's dead because I stopped lying to her! If I had just kept lying- She wouldn't have died...!'

'I can't live unless I lie. That's how I was born... I'm pathetic, aren't I?'

(tl credit to @onigiriico )

...yeah. To me, this is almost 100% proof of the gay Kazui theory. He tried to stop lying, and to 'be himself.' To 'be the way he was born.' If that's not a queer analogy, I don't know what it is.

Finally, I just want to point out the line near the end: 'I wanted to be loved just like a cat.' In Japan, the word 'cat' ('neko') can also be used as a gay slang term for 'bottom. Maybe it's a bit too on the nose, but I really do think that this could just be Kazui straight up stating his preferences.

Anyways, that's my two cents! Based on this MV and the voice drama, I'm voting [FORGIVE], but I'd love to hear other people's takes on this.

Either way, congrats to Kazui for having the first jazz banger in MILGRAM 🫡 Ryouta Takeuchi continues to feed us