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They're calling lesboys radqueers now ooohhnm my Gooodrfffddd
#.⎯♗·】#me when i purposefully use words i dont understand or research against people i dont understand or research#pro good faith identity#pro good faith#good faith#good faith identity#pro lesboy#lesboy#pro turigirl#turigirl#pro mspec gay#pro mspec lesbian#mspec lesbian#mspec gay#pro gaybian#gaybian#sapphillean#pro contradictory labels#contradictory labels#queer inclusion#inclusionist#inclus#rq neutral#radqueer neutral#<- idgaf about this stuff personally#just wish people would use the correct words for their hate smh#(since it usually spreads misinfo if they try and connect something to another thing that has nothing to do with said something)
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If you exclude endogenic systems from your inclusion, you're not an inclusionist. If you exclude lesboys and turigirls from your inclusion, you aren't an inclusionist. If you exclude mspec lesbians and gays from your inclusion, you are not an inclusionist. If your inclusion is conditional towards identities you don't personally understand, maybe get your shit together before calling yourself an inclusionist.
#there's an issue where people will claim to be inclusionists#but then will go 'nuh uh' towards endo systems#and other identities#congratulations. at that point you are just a slightly more tolerant exclusionist#radinclus#pro endo#pro lesboy#pro turigirl#pro mspec gay#pro mspec lesbian#pro contradictory labels#pro good faith
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Okay what the actual fuck?
First off how tf are you still on Tumblr [clearly not succeeded in the activity front which is good]
Secondly why would you make a WHOLE ASS BLOG ABOUT IT????
Bro, WHAT? I don't understand how you could be so much of a hater make a WHOLE ASS BLOG for it
Thirdly lies, they are lying, liars
#How could anyone from either series hate on mspec lesbian tbh#♡#tag for ula#she isn't just joy#tw hate#cw queerphobia#only tagging cause they tagged anti with it->#pro mspec lesbian#pro lesboy#pro bi lesbian#pro mspec gay#pro gay lesbian#pro good faith#pro turigirl
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Supporting Turigirls means supporting:
1. Multigender Gay people using "Turi" for their “Masc side" and "Girl" for their
"Fem side"
2. GNC men who like to be called "girl" for gender nonconformity
3. Trans Men and Transmascs reclaiming being called a "girl"
4. Transfem Gays reclaiming being called a "girl"
5. Trans Women who don't feel misgendered by the term "Gay" and/or feels like their attraction to men is still queer
6. She/Her gays reclaiming being called a "girl"
Support all of them, or support none of them.
#turigirl#mogai#mogai safe#pro mogai#pro turigirl#turigirl safe#gay trans woman#gay woman#gay twink#she/her gay#gay girl#transfem gay#trans gay#nonbinary gay#enby gay#demigirl gay#multigender gay#vincian trans woman#vincian woman#vincian girl#demigirl vincian#gay#mlm#mlnb#nblnb#achillean#achillgirl#contradictory labels#good faith identity#inclusionist
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I think a, not really new, but still new pet peeve of mine is when ppl say stuff like "mspec monos aren't valid", "lesboys/turigirls/gaybians aren't valid", etc, but then proceed to say stuff like- "You can just say you're (mspec)sexual (mono)romantic or (mspec)romantic (mono)sexual!", "But nonbinary lesbians are valid!", etc. Like- you know that is one of the reasons why someone uses the mspec mono label, right? And that not every nonbinary person is afab and that multigender people exist, right?
It annoys the hell out of me- and my system members too
- Fry/Chat
#there are obviously more reasons people can id with these labels#but still#also don't worry#im not anti nonbinary#im on the nonbinary spectrum so it wouldn't really make any sense if i was#just pointing out the hypocrisy and that some people still think nonbinary means woman lite#or is the right word double standards?#probably both#pro lesboy#pro turigirl#pro gaybian#pro mspec gay#pro mspec gay man#pro mspec lesbian#pro mspec straight#pro good faith identities#anti exclusionist
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Achillean Lesboy | Sapphic Turigirl
Turigirl Achillean | Sapphic Lesboy
Please credit me if you reupload my flags, and if you use my flags for something (art, other terms, etc) please tag me, I’d love to see it!
Help with ids is appreciated
#mogai#mogai coining#orientation coining#mogai orientation#mogai friendly#pro lesboy#pro turigirl#pro contradictory labels#lesboy#turigirl#achillean turigirl#achillean lesboy#sapphic lesboy#sapphic turigirl#my coins
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being asexual doesn't make you aromantic (and vice versa)
being heterosexual doesn't make you heteroromantic (and vice versa)
being homosexual doesn't make you homoromantic (and vice versa)
being bisexual doesn't make you biromantic (and vice versa)
being transmasc doesn't make you a trans man (and vice versa)
being transfem doesn't make you a trans woman (and vice versa)
being nonbinary isn't mutually exclusive to being a woman (and vice versa)
being nonbinary isn't mutually exclusive to being a man (and vice versa)
being a man isn't mutually exclusive to being a woman (and vice versa)
hello to all the weird and stigmatized identities. i support you. just know that the split attraction model doesn't exclusively apply to aces and aros and you're valid too. gender and orientation is complicated. lesbian asexuals are not any less contradictory than lesbian heterosexuals.
#im including omni + pan + uranic etc when i say “bi”#xenogender#queer#ace#aro#alloace#aroallo#reblogs off cause i dont feel like being harassed sorry!#i also dont want this to end up on discourse blogs#pro contradictory labels#pro mspec#pro lesboy#pro turigirl#bigender
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Gaiturigirl
Gaiturigirl mean being both Gai and a Turigirl.
Gai meaning "an orientation that is gay but in a uniquely non-binary way. It describes attraction experienced by a non-binary person that one considers to be gay or otherwise non-straight (unstraight), but is not necessarily towards the "same" gender (due to the nature of non-binary genders)"
Turigirl meaning " an identity for an individual who in some way identifies as a girl/woman that is gay/queer for men (turian)." It can include:
A multigendered/genderfluid person who is attracted to men while being a woman/sometimes being a woman
Someone who isn't a female gender wise, but uses feminine terms and/or pronouns to describe themselves
system with both female and turian members
And more reasons
#mogai#mogai coining#mogai label#mogai term#mogai gender#sexuality coining#turigirl#pro turigirl#liom term#liom safe#pro liom#liom blog#liom
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The argument points about lesbian intercommunity discourse against xyz term/label/etc. that hinge on saying how this "only happens in lesbian communities, you don't see other orientations have to deal with this!!!!" has always been simultaneously funny and frustrating to me.
Because 9 times out of 10, the equivalent to that DOES in fact exist in other lgbtq+ communities. It just doesn't get anywhere near as much public attention & arguments over it.
"You don't see people trying to argue for trans women or women in general to be allowed in the gay community like you do with people arguing for trans men or men in general to be allowed into the lesbian community!!!" You literally do. There are women, including trans women as well as various others such as genderfluid, multigender, and other genderqueer people who consider themselves women, in the gay community. There's even an equivalent term to the term lesboy for women who are gay called turigirl.
"You don't see gay men unironically using she/her & calling their partner their girlfriend!!!" You do. There are definitely gay men, hell even gay cis men, who use she/her and/or prefer typically feminine terms.
(Both of these two above points are extra funny to me because both have been said to my face while I am a pangender gay guy who does use she/her. They are literally saying to my face that people like me don't exist when they do that.)
"You don't see people arguing gay men can actually be attracted to women!! You don't see people trying to call themselves mspec gays like people try to say they're mspec lesbians!!!!" mspec gays do in fact also exist. Also what world are you living in where homophobes who try to convince lesbians that are definitely not into men they actually all can and are attracted to men exist, but people who try to convince gay men who aren't attracted to women that they can be and are attracted to women don't? Way to say you don't talk to any gay men because most could tell you that they do in fact have experiences with that happening.
There's a lot more I could point out, but those three are ones I've seen the most recently. Point is, if you're going to make an argument that something is bad/a problem, and what you are using to help prove that point is the fact that it doesn't exist within other similar communities, maybe check that it actually doesn't exist in those communities first so you don't straight up erase shit from other communities to try to make a point about your own.
#I've also seen an uprise in people saying that gay men don't face homophobia in xyz way and lesbians do#which ironically enough is extremely homophobic#'you don't see women harassing gay men for being gay like men harass lesbians' (actual thing I have seen someone say)#and uh... yeah.... they do#there are definitely women who harass the shit out of gay men#I won't deny that it is FAR more prevelent for men to harass lesbians#and that there are some forms of homophobia that lesbians face at much higher rates than gay men do#but erasing that those problems exist for gay men completely is just homophobic#you can address the problems lesbians face in disproportionate amounts to other lgbtq people without acting like they no longer face them#critical inclusionist#radical inclusionist#contradictory labels#lgbtq discourse#lesbian discourse#gay discourse#pro lesboy#pro turigirl#pro mspec gay#pro mspec lesbian#tw discourse#just to make sure anyone who doesn't want to see discourse (that has it filtered) doesn't see it in the more general tags#she/her gay#he/him lesbians#turigirl#lesboy#mspec lesbian#mspec gay#mogai discourse#ig
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honestly, the ppl who are against multigender labels like turigirl and lesboy are so obviously infested with TERF ideology (yes, even if they're trans themselves or even if they're multigender themselves) cuz its like: "your not gay because you're a girl so you're obviously straight!"
like... im literally a man who loves men... by your own logic I can't be straight, right? Plus even though i use turigirl, I'm not a girl
"so just call yourself bi instead of being so confused!"
but im not bi? I'm attracted to men..
like,, if y'all are going to say you're not transphobic maybe dont use well known transphobic phrases??
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#pro good faith#pro good faith identities#pro lesboy#pro turigirl#pro radinclus#pro critinclus#pro gaybian#pro mspec monos#lesboy#turigirl#gaybian#starfilled.txt
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I update this often
About: This account will be posteing alterhuman terms, all terms will be made by me and all flags are made by me aswell and I post random stuff link to Alterhuman for fun
Request: open
I'm open to do: alterhuman terms. Alterhuman mask design and also pfp thingy like this link (I can add flags and change the symbol if u don't tell me what symbol to use I will assume you want the therian symbol)
i wont do: anything in my dni
You can send a request at my "ask/request anything" bit.
Other accounts(tumbler):
mogai/liom account: @ieatkids0666
Art account: @i-eat-kids-arts666
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Info about myself
Name: phoenix
Bodily Age: minor
Prounouns: It/Ix/None/He/Ve/That/Sin/Forest
Any prounouns beginning with V/Z is alright
More info on names/prounouns at my Prounouns page
Time zome: BST
Trems: any pref of masc
Special: I'm Autistic, Dyslexic, Achronal(ageless), ARFID, Aphantasia, otherkin/therian, pet regression, Verbal flux & undiagnosed ADHD/Short-term insomnia
Alterhuman things
My therian type:
Bonbay Norwegian forest cat●Cross fox
Otherkin type:
Creature•Vampire
Otherheart type: Cat•Maned wolf•Dog
Hearthomes: Forest
Other alterhuman thing: Quoiluntary•Contherianthropy
Questioning types: snow leopard●Serval•Cheetah•Bohemian Shepherd
Lgbtq terms (main one/simple way to put it):
Bigender●pan●AroAce● Femboy●Polyam
I'm a Radinclus but very anti radqueer<3
If you want to know more on my label and the full list here the link
DNI
(note: I can't stop you from useing my terms but understand what I don't support/I support just respect my views and not fight/tell me what "right" or "wrong" let respect each other, if u fight about it I will laugh then block u<3/lh)
If your one of thos people who are like "idc If you support something just don't be it" I am an lesboy, gaybian, bi/pan/poly/omni lesbian & Straightbian you(s) been warned
I will block u if you are an 18+/"after dark" blog (I'm an minor), if your dsmp fan and if ur acc make me uncomfortable in general.
Basic dni(Lgbtqphobia, Racist, Sexist ect), exclusionists (anti mspec monos , anti lesboys , etc) anti furry, anti alterhuman, radqueer/transid( not includeing transgender, transspecies, transage/altage) , proship, nsfw/excessively political/discoursey/religious/harmful blogs, DSMP fan, anti endo, anti Xenogender/neopronouns, pro/neu/comp Contact harmful para, anti recovery para, anti objectum, MSI fan
#pinned post#pinned info#pinned intro#intro post#endo safe#pro endo#pro lesboy#pro bi lesbian#pro turigirl#pro mogai#pro liom#alterhuman#alterhuman safe#dni radqueer#dni rq#anti rq#anti radqueer#alterhuman blog
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can you do a vincirl flag? it's the vincian (mlm/achillean) cis girl version of saphtroy (sapphic trans boy). vintroy may exist as well.
Vincirl + Lescoy!!
Vincirl is a term referring to a turigirl who also identifies as cisgender
Lescoy is a term referring to a lesboy who also identifies as cisgender
#xenogender#xenogenders#mogai#pro mogai#xenogender coining#xenogender community#mogai safe#mogai terms#mogai friendly#pro turigirl#turigirl#pro lesboy#lesboy#cis turigirl#cis lesboy
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intro
a mogai / liom coining n graphics blog
we take requests for almost everything; except obviously illegal things, or things that make a mod, or mods uncomfortable
no exact media blacklist
byf
we are anti endogenic, and are ran by three recognized systems (mod 🌊, mod 🩹, mod 🎸), and one non-system (mod 🔱). some mods are fine taking requests from endogenics, but it is an interact with caution, so beware
we are anti-proship and anti-radqueer, we will take requests for specified non-radqueer and non-proship identities; like the original definition of transspecies, or amasui for example, but I'd depend on what a mod feels comfortable doing
most of us are disabled, and are all neurodivergent. please keep that in mind when requesting, like adding translations for typing quirks, using tone tags, or explaining something in detail
we support palestine, ukraine, and other people in crisis. make sure to remember to donate
we are pro mspec mono, and other contradictory labels
extra
credits for the dividers and such used are unknown unfortunately, any one who knows who made the original black and white dividers and such, please say who did, thank you
we want this blog to be a safe place for multiple people, so any requests heavily related to violence will not be accepted, but light mentions of serious topics are fine as long as you don't go in-depth
this blog is run by a group of teenagers, so we will not accept any requests that are blatantly nsfw
#⏜⏜ @ mod 🌊#⏜⏜ @ mod 🔱#⏜⏜ @ mod 🩹#⏜⏜ @ mod 🎸#⌣⌣✦ replies#⌣⌣✦ questions#⌣⌣✦ requests#𓂃 request denied#𓂃 request accepted#term coining 𝟅𝟈#flag coining 𝟅𝟈#﹕ blinkies#﹕ graphics#﹕ banners#mogai blog#liom blog#anti endo#anti radqueer#anti proship#pro mspec mono#pro lesboy#pro turigirl
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i relate to a lot of the things ive seen you posted/ said. i really just want a community that doesnt rip itself apart over harmless things. i wish i could be openly plural &experiment with my gender/identity without fear. radqueer sounds ... similar, but im scared to like,, go down that 'rabbit hole' (not saying its bad! just that ive heard there are some bad sides and it seems kinda extreme in some places, but i wouldnt know since i havent actually interacted out of fear) (dont feel pressured to answer or give advice for this!! just wanted to share me thoughts :3)
There are definitely parts of the radqueer community that are... unsavory in the least, so it's important to keep safe by avoiding more extreme spaces or navigating them with caution. As for me, I really only get bothered when the possibility of actual nonconsensual harm is happening, and while there are people in that community who claim things like saying children can't consent is ageist (????) there are also people who are just trying to live. It's a very nuanced situation, and as someone who has went out of hir way to interact with the community and poke around, I've found that there are swell people and the entire community isn't some evil kid grooming factory like people have claimed. That all being said, the safest place to start is transID. As far as I know, radqueer isn't just transID. It's basically 'live and let live' in every sense of the word, so while spaces are accepting of things like mspec les/gays/monos and lesboys/turigirls, alterhumanity, nontraumagenic systems etc, they also support things that people would consider bad, such as labeling paraphilias as sexualities, all transIDs including those who are transharm for whatever reason, etc. (I personally don't have much of an issue with these things. Again, as long as nonconsensual harm isn't happening, I don't give a rat's ass what people do). However, this varies from person to person though the general acceptance and letting people exist is consistent.
I hope this helped at least a little bit, anon, and stay safe when exploring your identity. There are radically inclusive spaces (not the same thing as radqueer) that can be infinitely useful for self exploration, but as I've noticed, if you have the audacity to be transID you will be crucified and/or pushed out of those spaces. Still, though, it may be a good place to start, even if you have to weed out the anti endo spaces in the mix of 'radinclus' servers and dance around the transID bush.
#pro transid#pro mspec lesbian#pro mspec gay#pro mspec mono#pro lesboy#pro turigirl#pro endo#pro xenogender
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The labels someone uses literally do not affect anybody else
Queer people are being fucking MURDERED all the time and y'all are worried that someone's a bi lesbian? Literally get over yourselves and worry about something important
The label someone uses aren't gonna kill you, it's queerphobes that are.
2 transgender children have been MURDERED this month and yall are worried about??? labels?? Queer children are being killed, DO SOMETHING!!
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