#pre-crisis

[kryptonbabe]

Old Hollywood & DC, an unrealistic casting, part I

(More details at the end, cool movies from the actors mentioned in parentheses)

Hal Jordan: Richard Arlen (Wings, Beggar's of Life) – the puppy charm and the overwhelming confidence... it's all there, Arlen is also one of the guys in the first gay kiss in film history in Wings, in which he interprets a pilot, I don't think I need to say more

Lois Lane: Rosalind Russell (My Girl Friday, The Women) – I mean... it's impossible not to see the resemblance after watching My Girl Friday in which Russell interprets a brilliant journalist going into increasingly insane situations... it's one of the best comedies ever made and very Lois Lane coded

John Stewart: Sidney Poitier (Edge of the City, The Defiant Ones) – Neal Adams used Poitier as an inspiration to model John so this is technically cheating, but look at him! Poitier would not only be perfect for the role in looks but in talent too

Green Arrow: Errol Flynn (Gentleman Jim) – I admit I'm not a Flynn fan and I'm also not very big on Ollie either, but I do think these two match, Flynn also interpreted Robin Hood and his dramatic role in Gentleman Jim would fit the more drastic moments of Ollie's life

Sinestro: Conrad Veidt (The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari, The Hands of Orlac, Different from the Others and anything else you can find with him in it) – Veidt is actually more known for inspiring the creation of the Joker for his film The Man Who Laughs, but he's way more than that, a talented artist, a true queer ally and a babe who would make an outstanding, overdramatic and cunty Sinestro

Zatanna: Louise Brooks (both her G.W. Pabst films are great, and Beggar's Life - with my Hal Jordan from this list) – Brooks made only a handful of films and while they're great, her strong personality in real life is what fascinates me the most, her mysterious beauty, expressive looks and dramatic range would make her an ideal Zatanna, even though her career was very short in real life

This list was inspired by this post (thanks for the idea @forthegothicheroine), it's a very anachronistic imaginary scenario, but I still followed some rules to come up with it, a) to include actors who were mostly active from the 1920s to 1970s b) who not only match the DC characters for their looks, but would also have the range to interpret them in their pre-crisis versions, so the feeling is as important as the aesthetic here c) to only include characters and actors I already had some contact with, by watching the films and reading the comics. This is only part I because there are still so many cool characters and actors I like left, but for now I'm happy with this

[catastrophicalcat]

I continue to be baffled at HOW GOOD pre-Crisis Bruce was at communicating his feelings! I mean, look at this. Also interesting that Jason pre-Crisis already has some of the issues which will lead to his post-Crisis demise. Finally, did y'all know that Julia Pennyworth is a pre-Crisis character?

Detective Comics #551

[vertigoartgore]

1985's Batman Annual Vol.1 #9 painted cover by Ed Hannigan and John Totleben.

[wonderbatpanels]

Brave and the Bold Vol. 1 #105 (1972)

"You're a wonder, woman!"

[robingivesmemagic]

which is scarier ginger jason or blonde jason (i cant tell anymore which one it was supposed to be pre-crisis)

[leoruby-draws]

A look into some alternate realities, showcasing Pre-crisis Jason Todd and a sorta earth-11 inspired version of Jason and Bruce.

In my personal observation, Pre-crisis Jason isn't especially all that different from Post Jason. He's just as fiery and passionate in his disposition though there are some subtle differences. He doesn't have that 'cold' anger, tendency to hold a grudge, and that chip on the shoulder that post-Jason has. In fact, I like to think of Pre-Jason as a Jason who had a much happier childhood and less trauma than post (up until his parents death ofc).

Since I feel they're actually pretty similar, I wondered how they'd get along. Probably not very well, post-Jason would probably resent him a bit in all honesty. Thought maybe working together to beat up some villains might help them get along.

Also I couldn't resist bringing in Training Wheels Jason! I know it's obvious but Bluejay's outfit is basically a blue version of Pre-Jason's robin outfit( that he wore for like, one issue). Appropriate, since TrWh Jason is meant to be a mash-up of his Pre and Post selves, tho leaning more towards Post. Along with some sprinkling of other continuities/media, plus some of my own 'original flavor' mixed in as well.

And finally, I wanted to take a stab at my own version of a female Jason Todd. It's not really the earth-11 version but I was inspired by the concept. I'm not sure how different Jason would be as a girl, perhaps she might have an even bigger chip on her shoulder than her male version. But I haven't put much thought into it tbh.

Well, hope you like it!

[primeofprimes115]

Lost Without You - Supergirl x Male Reader

Warnings: Fluff 🥰 and Angst 🥺

Five years... Five... Years has passed since he lost his beloved to a Crisis.

She went ahead to defend the universe from a very, very powerful threat.

And when the threat was thwarted? He'd receive the most heartbreaking news.

"Kara Zor-El... Is dead" he was informed by the Last Son of Krypton, though the Kryptonian was devastated, the same could be said for the girl's fiancé, Y/N L/N.

The moment put him into a shock, he was in emotional distress, unable to cope with the news he received before he'd lash out at anyone who was there, before he was eventually calmed down by a few of his closest friends.

His worst nightmare had come to life... His own future wife, the Kryptonian woman he asked to marry... Was killed by sacrificing her life to save her cousin from what was known as the Anti-Monitor.

A funeral was held for Kara Zor-El aka Supergirl, where Y/N got to say his last goodbyes to his future wife in a devastated state, he felt... Anger, anger for those who COULD'VE saved her... But no one even tried.

He wasn't there, but he knew someone could've saved her, maybe save the Flash who also died in this Crisis... Yet no one tried anything.

He felt the hatred in his heart toward even the Man of Steel, who set to carry her body, covered in a blanket out to the outer rim of space to lay her to rest, potentially falling into the sun.

For a time, he distanced himself away from mostly everyone, anyone who was a super, tried to talk to him? He'd threaten them... Before eventually his closest friends would be threatened by him.

It wasn't long till he went through a stage of depression, which worried his close ones.

The only thing he ever wanted... Was his Kara back... His soulmate... His "Angel".

He even thought of setting himself free and letting go of the pain... By just a leap of faith, however he failed.

He was forced to get help after being convinced by one of his good friends since childhood, to get better, to try and move on from her... Though the help from a psychiatrist helped, still his other problems were at large... His sleeping was one of them.

"He's barely gotten sleep since the situation, he hasn't been eating, drinking, hasn't gotten showered for the last few months and... We're-We're worried about his health, he's declining from the looks of it" his close friend, Jacob and his wife sat and talked with the Psychiatrist, overlooking Y/N's mental status as a whole.

"Can you confirm Mr L/N?" the doctor asked politely as the young man looked up slightly.

"Yes" he said in a low tone of voice.

"His health is declining you say?" the doc asked the other two, which Jacob nodded his head. "Has he tried eating or drinking?" he then asked.

"He's tried... But he can't seem to eat like he used to" Jacob expressed his worry.

This has been the third week since Y/N went to his Psychiatrist, he had to be accompanied by someone to make sure he gets there alright, unless he runs into a criminal and the worse can happen to either him...

Or the common thug...

"I think I have all the information I need to put him on a prescription for medication, from the diagnosis... He's going through a Persistent Depressive Disorder, common symptoms are skipping or not eating food, not drinking, sleeping too much or too little... Which can cause a decline in health which can be a huge problem if not treated quick enough" the doc explained.

"I should also say that... He's been experiencing hallucinations a few times... Of his late wife" Jacob added.

"Fiancé, Jacob" Y/N lowly corrected.

"Fiancé, sorry. Y/N claims he sees her and hears her voice calling out to him, at first he thought she was alive again but then he... Well..." Jacob stopped, trying not to tell the full exact details, wanting to forget what had happened that day.

"Hallucinations?" the doc's eyes darted toward the young man as he slowly nodded, looking down at the floor, staring. "Hmm, that's also a sign of Depressive Psychosis, I'll have a prescription for that medication for him too once this session is over, hopefully have it rolled out as soon as possible" the doc added to his notebook of patients.

"Oh also... Could Y/N receive an emotional support animal? A dog perhaps? A service dog at least? He was open to have some sort of companion to keep him stable" Jacob's wife chimed in, open to support Jacob's best friend.

"I can contact the Dogs for Good provider and see if I can get a service dog to help Mr L/N with his condition" the doc issued to help and provide.

The weeks would go by and he started to open up his circle to others, even apologizing to some he threatened to kill if they ever got close to him. One of them was Clark Kent aka Superman, the cousin of Kara Zor-El.

He told Clark that he was lost without Kara...

But... He wasn't the only one who felt lost without the Girl of Tomorrow.

* *

The last five years had passed since Supergirl's death, the world had seemed to have changed since then.

It was no different that Y/N and his 4 and a half year old companion named Riley had moved away from the current city they lived in together, he said his goodbyes to everyone and moved away... To another Earth where it felt more safer for him to move around in.

Helped by Dr Fate and some others, he was able to travel to this different Earth where it felt the safest within the Multiverse, there were a few other Earths like this one... But this one felt it called his name. Where a new chapter in his life would finally begin.

On the ridge of Vancouver aka Vantucky located in the Washington State, laid a house that he stayed in.

This place costed at least $1.250.000 Dollars, but thankfully? He had some friends who helped buy him the place from his old home, that being his old Earth.

"Good day for a walk, ain't it Riley?" the mid-20s man looked to his K9 companion and asked his companion.

Riley barked once as to respond to his owner's question.

"Couldn't say it any better bestie" he smiled as the two turned up at the front door of their house, he pulled out the keys and began unlocking the door to enter his home.

He opens the door and enters before allowing his K9 friend to come in before closing the door behind him, exhaling his breath as he began taking off his jacket and hanging it up.

Before he took another step, he heard Riley growling...

"What is it?" he asked as he bent down to comfort his K9, the dog barked toward the direction of where he was growling at, which set off alarms in Y/N's head. Riley wouldn't growl at the presence of Y/N's house cat Milo would he?

But... Someone unfamiliar had popped into his home when he suddenly realized why he was growling.

"Take it cool Riley, we go together" his heart was pounding, someone had broken into his home and not even the security alarm warned him of an intruder? This set off red alarms.

He pulled out his concealed handgun in his back pocket, in case he was apprehended by common thugs or whatever.

He moved slowly with the dog, aiming his handgun in front of him, finger on the trigger in case something were to jump out at him.

Never did he think someone would even dare break into his own home and manage to not trip the security that was placed in his home for any intruder who tried breaking in... The weird part? The more he slowly moved throughout his home, he began to think something was off, no break-ins were seen, the alarm wasn't tripped.

The dog began barking before rushing off, causing Y/N to panic.

"Riley, no!" Y/N shouted after the dog, hoping the intruder wouldn't hurt his K9 Service Dog, the barking continued as he quickly rushed to where Riley ran off to, only to stop at the sight of seeing someone... Very familiar standing beside a sleeping Milo on his favorite spot on the couch.

"Hi... Sparky" it was a blonde haired woman, she would smile but the dog kept barking at her and she didn't want to hurt it if it went to attack her with Y/N's permission to do so... Though the dog would only hurt itself if it did so.

His eyes bulged open, his heart began racing... He was wondering if he had taken his medication today since he was frozen still at the sight of seeing what he thought as a ghost.

His gun still aimed at her, she still wore the same outfit the day she went to fight for Earth's survival, the day she would say her last goodbyes without knowing she was going to die and leave a devastated Y/N behind her when she sacrificed herself.

"K-Kara?" he spoke the name of his late fiancé... Who appeared to be standing in front of him...

* *

Kara Zor-El stood still as the Anti-Monitor had been defeated, wounded but still able to stand.

She witnessed her own death here... At that exact moment when sacrificing her life to save her cousin from the Anti-Monitor. But luckily? She was saved by Zero-Hour Parallax Hal Jordan, even the Flash aka Barry Allen was saved by him too.

She knew what would happen if she were to die... How she ORIGINALLY died and the impact it would cause.

She first saw it through images of smoke in the Phantom Zone that had imprisoned Kryptonians that defiled the House of El.

She saw her devastated fiancé and what he was going through after her death, no matter her pleads to make the strange smoky visions stop, the images kept playing in her head. Watching her own body be carried to the sun by her cousin to lay her to rest, seeing her fiancé go through a very rough depressive state.

It was enough to make her panic with her thoughts, before she crumbled up into a ball and let the tears flow.

However, she promised to keep it all a secret, knowing she was going to die. She knows what happens to the timeline if things were altered.

She was fully willing to accept her fate, knowing how heartbreaking it is to see her future husband go through the pain of losing her and knowing Clark would be the last living member of the House of El... She had to accept it.

However... When things were revealed that a version of Brainiac had been up to no good with the multiverse at his fingertips, he began collecting different Earths and timelines, fitting them against each other, the winner? Gets a future.

However things weren't going well... The multiverse was unstable... Telos, a servant of this Brainiac had brought everyone to the dimension Brainiac was in to control the universes he collected.

The only way to restore it, was to send everyone back home and Brainiac was the only one who could do it.

But he couldn't... The first Crisis he claimed, was blocking him from doing so, in order to restore the multiverse, he had to send Pre-Crisis Supergirl and Flash back to their timeline, where they already knew their fates were sealed...

But in luck... Zero-Hour Hal Jordan aka Parallax had decided to go with them... Along with Superman and his Wife and newborn son, in which in an instant... The Multiverse was saved.

Kara issued a word with Brainiac and Telos before she would be saved by Zero-Hour Hal Jordan... She wanted to see her fiancé after the deed had been done, she didn't care if it wasn't the present Y/N or just after the Crisis, she wanted to see her fiancé since the vision she saw showed he NEVER moved on from her. 

And so her wish was granted the moment the Anti-Monitor was defeated...

"Ah! What?! Where... Where am I?" she was suddenly teleported into a home she didn't recognize. "Rao! This isn't my home... Is it?" she turned round and noticed she was standing in the living room, where small portraits were on display... Showing her fiancé in them. She recognized his face in them, showing she was in the right place... But something was different.

She stopped the moment her eyes laid upon an old photo on display. A photo of herself and Y/N, before they were even married... When she was living in New York City, wearing the old blouse and hot pants suit.

"Brainiac actually lived up to his promise? If only I could thank him" she smiled upon the old photo, she was definitely in the right place... But it seemed to be a different house.

She then looked around and saw a cat sleeping on the couch, who awoke at the sound of her voice... The cat looked a lot familiar.

"You look a lot like Streaky" she cooed, kneeling down at the cat as it yawned, waking up from its nap on the couch, trilling at her presence. "And very friendly like him too" she smiled a little more.

Before long... The Maiden of Steel heard a door opening with a familiar voice behind it. "Couldn't have said it any better bestie" she heard her fiancé's voice, talking to someone.

Before she could even move, she then heard a dog growl.

'A dog too?' Kara said in her mind, she even used her x-ray vision to check, confirming it was a German Shephard. 'Seems to be a service dog, like I saw in the visions' she added.

"Riley, no!" her fiancé shouted out for the dog, who came running into the living room while barking, she put her hands up in front of her as Riley continuously barked at her with some growls at the end.

Y/N came sprinting in, his handgun in hand and stopped at the sight of Kara Zor-El, who then focused her attention to as she put her hands down, relaxing them.

"Hi... Sparky" she said awkwardly, smiling like she was caught doing something stupid.

Y/N's eyes bulged wide open as the dog kept barking and growling, his gun still aimed at her as she tried to get closer, but the dog wouldn't allow it.

"K-Kara?" he asked, his eyes still wide open as his gun was drawn on her still.

Kara thought back to what Telos had mentioned about Y/N in the future of her death in the Crisis, he'd gone through a deep depression and had trouble with his life after her death, it was like he was lost without her, before eventually he got help, and got a service dog named Riley.

"I don't know how long it's been but... It's me, Kara Zor-El, your fiancé" she smiled softly, trying to get closer again but Y/N's service dog growled at her since she was unfamiliar to him within his own home.

Everything was as it said it should be, Telos only warned that things would be a little different after the Multiverse is restored, along with her own life. She'd have to be his Guardian Angel, like she always has been to him. To be a somewhat light in the darkness for him since he'd gone through that mental breakdown.

"No, no... No! You're just a damn figment of my damn mind!" he closed his eyes and looked away, refusing to even believe if what he was seeing was real. Kara felt heartbroken to see him this way in person, what did she have to do to convince him that she is alive in front of him? It was then that Riley began sniffing the Kryptonian's scent. "Riley, did I take my meds today?" he asked his dog, still looking away from him as he thought the person in front of him was another trick.

However, the dog was still sniffing Supergirl's scent as she knelt down to his level, upon finishing, the dog began wagging his tail as it sensed the girl wasn't threatening at all. 

"Riley?" he turned round to see Riley licking the "figment's" face as she giggled.

"For a service dog? Giving me kisses is something else" she giggled, remembering that Krypto the Superdog used to do it all the time when he greets her.

It was at that moment... Y/N's eyes widened once more, he felt his body go stiffer as he watched his dog lick the girl's face, giving her friendly kisses as she giggled away.

A few seconds go by and Riley stops, allowing the girl to stand up as he sat still next, allowing her to maneuver around now after being welcomed by him. Kara looks at her shocked and conflicted fiancé as the gun in his hands suddenly slips out from his hand, a loud thud hitting the ground as he stared at his supposed dead fiancé, now alive mysteriously.

"A-Angel?" he began to feel his eyes watering, all the pent up emotion getting to him as she got closer to him.

"It's me... I'm back, in a confusing way but I'll-" she was suddenly stopped by him rushing into her, wrapping his arms tightly around her body as he dug his head into her, though he was slightly taller, he could still bury his head into her shoulder.

Kara heard the loud sniffles, as he let the tears flow down his face onto her suit's red shoulder where he burrowed his face into, hearing him sob her name out, asking if she was really alive a few times made her wrap her arms around him next, to show she was indeed alive once again, now in her arms after that long battle with the Anti-Monitor who originally, killed her.

His sobs were enough to make her eyes water with his, she didn't know if he was crying happily or the other way around, she stayed strong for him however and let him sob his heart out.

"It's been f-f-f-f-five y-years!" he sobbingly mumbled into her shoulder with a muffled tone before sniffling again. Her initial thought was confirmed, this was present day Y/N, some time after her death as Telos and Brainiac stated before she went through the portal to face the Anti-Monitor, with a different outcome.

"And I'm not leaving you again" she responded as his sniffles continued. "Can you look at me so I can kiss you?" she then asked, as her fiancé pulled back a little to look at her before their lips crashed into each other with Kara wiping away the tears on his face with her hands on his face.

He gave his all to show how much he missed her, melting into her lips as he kept his arms around her, not wanting to let go any sooner, in case he were to lose her again. giving small whimpers.

Their kiss soon ended as their foreheads rested on each other, their eyes opening as they look at one another.

"Kara I..." he didn't know how to process this situation. With her thumb, Kara wiped away another stray tear that fell down from his right eye.

"Shh" she cooed. "I'll explain everything later, right now? I just want to hold you right now, give you all the kisses and hugs in the world" she suggested, putting a smile on her fiancé's face.

"That's all I want right now" he softly spoke before the two smiled and kissed once more.

* *

"So... What you're telling me... Is that Brainiac admitted he felt loss? And then tried to restore the collapsing Multiverse which he originally caused to happen? He had to send you and our Barry back to face your deaths again, but an evil Hal Jordan saved you and Barry? Which pretty revived you?" Y/N spoke with confusion. "Okay... I'm confused" he admitted.

"Yeah, it's confusing I know... But... I'm alive again so... That's all that matters" she agreed, she was now out of her costume and put on a cardigan and casual short shorts with no socks on her feet, laying down on the couch with her fiancé reunited with her.

"Yeah... You've missed a lot" he spoke lowly. "I'm on meds now, got Riley as a service dog" he gestured while cuddling into Kara as Riley barked as a response. "And I got Milo" he then added.

Kara looked at the peacefully sleeping orange cat Milo as she smiled. "Reminds me of Streaky the Supercat".

"In a certain way? Yeah" he agreed with her on a short note.

"Y/N... I... I'm sorry for leaving you" she looked down at him, his eyes now focused on her by just moving his head to face her. "If I had known the impact I was going to leave on Kal, on you and everyone else? Especially you. I..." she then sighed, she was going to call herself selfish, but originally she saved her cousin from death, but it costed her, her own life.

"You don't need to be sorry and it's not your fault about what I went through... I found it hard to move on from you, which clouded my judgement, I was so angry, upset and... Drowsy" he took away the blame Kara was putting on herself, not wanting her to blame herself for what he went through as Kara began to realize. "But I got help eventually, Riley has been there since I got help, you're not gonna believe this but, he was a puppy when he became my emotional support animal and my service dog" he explained with a soft chuckle, causing the girl to smile.

"I believe you, cause I saw it like I said" she spoke before leaning her head down and kissed his forehead.

"As for earlier, I let those emotions out because I couldn't believe that my fiancé was alive again, for the last five years Kara, I still found it hard to move on. I've tried dating, but my heart could not move on from you, even with my mind playing tricks on me thinking I saw you in the distance or in front of me" Y/N unexpectedly began explaining, like it was sudden instinct to vent his thoughts. "I take medication to keep my mind straight, so I don't fall into that feeling again, ever since you died... I felt... Lost without you, and I couldn't bear with feeling crushed without you by my side" he choked on the last set of his words, with Kara now stroking his face.

"But I'm here now... To guide you once more, as you were with me when we first met" she cooed, stroking his face softly as he began to smile. "I can hang up the cape to be with you at all times, no more Supergirl... Just Kara L/N" the Kryptonian hinted while she smiled back.

"Kara, this world does need heroes, there's barely any out there in this world" he denied her suggestion. "This world needs a hero like you, to inspire others just like your cousin did".

"Are you certain?" she asked concerned. "I don't know how you'd really feel about me going back out there, after all you've been through without me".

"Yes" he looked Kara in the eye to show he was genuine about it. "This world needs someone like you... It may not be the same Earth but... It someone Super to be its Champion" he softly smiled.

Kara smiled with him before the she was pulled into a soft and passionate kiss, their lips touched with tenderness, longing for another long kiss before it broke.

"I've been strong for so long Kara... Losing you, really broke me, it broke me everywhere. I just wanted you back so much-"

"Shhhhh" Kara cooed, putting a finger on his lips as she softly smirked. "You don't need to fret anymore... I'm here with you now" she whispered softly.

Her fiancé's face brightened up upon hearing her words, it was all he ever needed... Was his soulmate to come back, even if he had moved on.

"I love you Kara, I love you so much" he cooed as the Kryptonian then planted a quick kiss on his lips.

"I love you too, Sparky" she smirked as their kiss was continued into a soft and gentle make-out session...

[violetomnivore]

November 11 was the Birthday of Dick Grayson (Robin / Nightwing) Pre-Crisis. I know they changed it in cannon now but still wanted to doodle him.

Now it’s first day of Spring or March 20 for Post-Zero Hour cannon. But it’s funnier to pretend he has three birthdays

[88y53]

Most adaptations of Lex Luthor fail because nobody’s ready to admit he’s as gay as a tangerine.

Think about—the Pre-Crisis Lex Luthor just screams a gay man in serious denial and massively overcompensating with a weird brand of toxic masculinity.

[gainaxvel3o]

"Oh, Lois is so superficial for falling in love with Superman instead of nice guy Clark Kent" have you considered that maybe it'd be more superficial for Lois to fall for the INTENTIONALLY clumsy, weak-willed disguise that is meant to throw people off instead of the actual superhero with charisma? Especially in takes like All Star, Pre-Crisis or Chris Reeves where Superman is the "real" identity????

[wwprice1]

Classic Superman covers by Gil Kane and Jose Luis-Garcia Lopez & Dick Giordano.

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Superman (1977) Hildebrandt Brothers

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Earth-Three

Earth-3

Earth 3

Earth Three

i personally use this system to differentiate between the 4

[titans-thoughts]

Well, to be fair, there was one pre-Crisis on Earth-2. Of course, they were all erased from existence during Crisis on Infinite Earths.

literally sick with grief that Bruce never got to have a baby

bruce never got to stumble, bleary-eyed in the predawn light to a crib already gently shushing and hold a small, warm body to his chest.

never got to sing a silly song about tying your shoes or help sound out words on a page.

all of bruces babys came to him half grown already, small enough to hide in his shadows but big enough to already dream about stepping out of them

[wonderbatpanels]

Brave and the Bold Vol. 1 #131 (1976)

"You're okay!? That blast would've killed a rhino!"

"But not, thank Aphrodite, an Amazon!"

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[ pls dont tag as ship ]