#otherkin reading

[the-razzdazzler]

i have GOT to start dressing weirder, howling in public, throwing rocks at cybertrucks, blasting punk music, growing out my claws, climbing trees, and generally tearing things with my teeth

[talon-dragonbeast]

going into the alterhuman tag and looking at other beings' profiles be like:

why are you sharing that

why is your dni like that (who hurt you)

you are SO young WHY ARE YOU ON TUMBLR

that was the most incomprehensible string of words ive ever read. blocked

who let this ACTUAL BABY in here

what possessed you to write like that. blocked

annoying opinion. blocked

oh i wont block you but you are on incredibly thin ice

you didnt share your age but you are Clearly 13 Years Old

i beg you to go outside i promise you will feel better if you talk with an actual person please go outside for a bit PLEASE

[false-lycanthrope]

I really hate that I even have to say this, but I'm going to because it's a reoccurring theme I keep seeing recently in therian/otherkin tags.

Keep your misanthropy out of the therian/otherkin community. It is not fucking welcome here.

It is insanely frustrating to see us going backwards like this! Not only that humans are not inherently evil by nature!

I'm so tired of constantly having to fish out misanthropes in my feed because you have such an insecurity with your own identity that you project that hatred into innocent people- I mean it's gotten to the point I've had to filter the tags entirely!

It is not fair and not true at all to call humans an evil race or species. If you simply just LOOK you will find kind and loving people out there, you just have to give kindness first.

I get it. People are mean. But you must also understand that meaness is not within their nature, hatred and disrespect are things that are taught by the generation before them or the others around them, it is not something they were just born with.

There is absolutely zero reason that humans as an ENTIRE species should be hated. Ever. Period point blank. Even those who identify as nonhuman, are still outwardly human, and at the end of the day you could be very well hurting your own community with your hatred! Even if humans are rude and mean to you, returning the favor is not how we will solve the problem. We must educate those who are willing to listen and ignore those who choose to hate us for existing. We must be the ones to create the peace that we all desperately fight for.

That is all I have to say. I apologize if this seems like a stream of consciousness, but this is a topic that has been bothering me as of late. Just wanted to get it off my chest.

I love and adore this community with my heart and soul but sometimes it can become upsetting to see some of us cresting more problems that should not have to be something we fight over. All I want is for us to live in peace without divide.

[interstellarsystem]

Hey! I'm psychotic, and a writer, and recently I stopped taking my pills and my characters have been talking to me. It's the best feeling in the world. They're with me through everything. I know them inside and out and they know me just as well. Then there's a bossy voice that tells me to take care of myself that I've just been calling Caretaker. I can sometimes let them come forward and see through me. I feel different when that happens, like I'm in the background, but I never really go away. Am I plural? (I do have trauma, but idk if that's where they came from). Is calling myself plural okay? Or am I just a person with psychosis?

Genuinely, if you in any way, for any reason, experience something you'd call being more than one person/entity/identity in a body? You can call yourself plural.

We know of people who call themselves plural based on their hallucinations. We know of people who call themselves plural based on seeing themselves as a spiritual medium. It's not all just DID/OSDD or something you were born with or created plurality. There's no one true plural experience--plurality is simply the sate of being more than one. It doesn't matter where they came from.

You might get some people arguing that "you can't know if these are real headmates or hallucinations!!" but ignore them. We're psychotic and technically because of that, we'd never be able to tell if most identity-things we experience are just a result of psychosis. But that doesn't and shouldn't matter--we experience them anyway. If you experience being plural, and later it turns out to be psychosis or something else.. You still had that experience. You still lived that way. It's a thing you felt and lived and it's a thing that was you, for at least some amount of time. And we think that's enough.

That being said, if you want to call yourself a person with psychosis, that's fine too. You can do whatever you want, it's your identity.

[arsenic-clownip]

:33 < okayyyy im want more nonhuman mutualz who are fictionkin, otherkin, plantkin,objectkin,number/letterkin,monthkin,yearkin, placekin, ect any uncommon kins !!

B33 < any coolio kins (and anyone under that umbrella) please interact !! also especially homestuck kins/fictives, ilove when yall interact with me <3

:33 < please note youdo not have to !! this is choice only, give this post notes if you feel comfortable enough !! (and if youdont go against the dni :3)

[who-is-page]

hi. seeing people talk about physically shapeshifting and that there’s a category of humans with like powers called supernaturals- shapeshifters, dragons, real vampires that need energy/blood, etc in such a matter of fact way is making me feel strange. there is no proof and science says otherwise, but there is a huge community claiming these experiences and they even have history/lore and that others have witnessed their shifts. is this objectively true and possible in the collective shared reality, or are these individuals experiencing psychosis without double book keeping or something? yes their experience is real to them but is it real in the collectively perceivable scientifically possible way? will diving into this be diving into delusional thinking and be risky for me? at what point does something need to be tagged unreality? I support everyone and their self expression, including folk with delusions that cannot dbk, but what is real? the amount of people claiming this and guides on everything make it seem like it must be real especially since they say it’s not a delusion. but is that just bc they can’t double book keep? this many people just happen to have the same delusion? I cannot diagnose people, and I don’t want to be ableist by saying it may be a delusion, but if it isn’t then what is it? what else do you call it? genuinely. I don’t know.

follow up question- it is not morally wrong if someone is experiencing a delusion without double book keeping and genuinely believes they can pshift. but people say pshifters are like intentionally harmful to other people because of how they talk about it. but what if they just talk about it as capital R Reality real and possible to achieve because they are experiencing a delusion and can’t help but talk about it like this bc it’s real to them? is the issue that they are unaware and unintentionally harming others or is there a specific intentional way they are talking about it different that is not excusable by delusions? I’m just trying to learn what people mean when they say they are bad bc I don’t want to be ableist about it /gen

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This is....a lot of questions jammed into just a couple of asks, so I'll do my best to answer the main focus of them.

Look, at the end of the day regarding "is it a delusion? is it RealTM? are they just fucking lying?" I want to say that it just kind of fundamentally...doesn't actually matter?

The problem with self-identified p-shifters isn't that they're making claims that they can physically shapeshift or that they have physical nonhuman aspects. Physical nonhumans are fine (and are in this discussion a separate thing from p-shifters, because "p-shifter" is a very specific term with a specific history). The problem is that:

Telling a group of dysphoric individuals that they CAN be their true selves in an otherwise completely impossible way if they just try hard enough, and that any issue to do so is because of a personal failing (you didn't want it enough, you didn't try hard enough, etc.) is just kind of a shitty thing to do. It's also potentially dangerous.

The above idea has most notably been used to manipulate, scam, con, and hurt people by folks who have self-labeled as p-shifters. This is why so many folks are leery of the term "p-shifter." This doesn't mean that people who identify as p-shifters are inherently going to do any of that, but it can come across a lot of the time as though modern self-identified p-shifters are just handwaving that history--at least, that's how it appears to me, but maybe it's just me.

The ways that p-shifters talk about their experiences in capital R reality (without getting into the weeds of "is it true/it is real/are they just lying") are extremely triggering to delusional nonhumans, which is something that endels have talked more at length about; see babydog's post here.

The division between ignorance (do they just not know) and malice (do they just not care) doesn't matter here, imo. I also personally don't think p-shifting is real, because if it was, I don't think the otherkin and therian communities would actually exist-- because we'd all fuck off and go be animals in the woods. That, and the ye olde science side of Tumblr went out of their way to break it down and debunk it so, so many years ago: Biologyweeps even had a dedicated p-shifting right past the laws of physics tag, back in the day. But that's just my take on things.

[16-puppies]

I think a lot of therian discourse would go away if we all adopted the idea that It’s Not Up To You. how someone identifies is really not up to you. And i know that can really suck because yeah, sometimes people Do get it really Really wrong, and they might not be a therian at all but listen to me. It’s not up to you. You can yell at someone all you want for being a therian the “wrong” way, you can insult them, you can suggest other terms if you really think it would benefit, but if they reject all of that there’s nothing more you can do but ignore them. You won’t convince them of anything, and you 🫵 don’t know Someone Else’s identity more than they do. You just don’t. So it’s not up to you. All you can do is exist as yourself.

Maybe I am stupid to think this way, who knows.

[thezedword]

Any other folks who are AI or computers in some way look at current / modern AI and just feel smug? Like, christ, it’d be embarrassing to be that sort of AI. Thank god I personally am based and adequately advanced

[post-punk-revival]

So I think I was wrong about being an ant therian.

I am an ant. But I might have been wrong about it being a theriotype.

If you'll forgive for a moment humoring the unnecessary late-2010s "difference between therians and otherkin" definitions, I have theriotypes and somehow this feels like a different flavor of identity because it doesn't feel like animalistic. The way that I am an osprey, for example, is very animal, and I know I have the ability to describe internal self-perception that way because I have parts of my alterhumanity that don't feel animal, like Novakid or AI. I don't feel like I am an ant in the way an ant is an animal.

Instead it feels, and bear with me, A) sapient? Intelligent?, B) weirdly cute—like, cartoonish almost, and this is so obvious to me when I look at my own drawings and what types of art (not photos) gives me kintype vibes and C), bizarrely...

technological?

Like I'm a virtual ant lmao? Or a robot ant? I've always distanced myself more than necessary from the techkin community despite my kintype being an actual real-life type of computer because I've never felt kinship with androids and Robot Classic™ aesthetic which is a lot of what's going on in there but maybe I am a bit of a robot, just insect-shaped instead of humanoid.

An antdroid if you will

[sorensolsikke]

i am here with my self indulgent dragonkin moodboard i made yesterday while feeling sad.

next part (golden retriver)

[cassiopoet]

El-Ahrairah

“All the world will be your enemy, Prince of a Thousand enemies. And when they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you; digger, listener, runner, Prince with the swift warning. Be cunning, and full of tricks, and your people will never be destroyed.”

-Richard Adams, Watership Down

a/n: ya’ll know me by this point. one thing about me im GONNA illustrate a rabbit. reading watership down fundamentally changed eight year old me i was never the same. also can someone who knows how to make them help me with the photo id?? ik its easy i just want to make it correctly please and thank you

art credits: me (@cassiopoet)

[prince-of-ithaca]

Funny thing. In my source, even though the suitors used the nickname “Little Wolf” as an insult, after I met Athena and we got to become friends, she kind of reclaimed it. Basically what I’m saying is Athena called me Little Wolf and because of that it’s a nickname I now hold extremely close to my heart even in this life hehe.

[talon-dragonbeast]

today i had one of those dreams that you dont remember instantly, rather it comes back to you a few hours later. im not sure what it was about (something about greek gods and a night fury i think? ive been listening to a lot of Epic and i have a httyd poster above my bed, so i guess it kinda makes sense?), but something i remember vividly is that i was flying. its been more than 12 hours since i had the dream but the feeling is still crystal clear in my mind, its hard to explain but its like i can feel it in my bones. the freedom, the adrenaline, the slight pit in your stomach, the lightness of your body, the speed, the wind on your face, the ache in your lungs. sometimes i forget what it feels like, what it really feels like to fly, but then something like this dream makes me remember it and i cant help but wonder, how could I forget it in the first place? it seems impossible, in the same way that one could never forget ones own name. because this, this right here, is me. i was born for flying, i know it. and without it, im... incomplete. empty.

the worst part is, i will never be able to get that feeling back. sure, i could gather enough money to idk go paragliding or something, but that would be artificial, fake. just a lie that i would tell myself to make me feel better. a plaster over dead skin.

so yeah, weird dream. ive been having a lot of those lately now that i think about it. i think its the vitamin deficiency, winter has been beating my ass lately. i should eat more fruit.

[littleroseprince]

Mascsomniangelean - a masculine alligned gender relating to angels, deities, heaven, gods, holiness, and divinehood who are often very sleepy. this can be because of chronic illness or not!

Femmesomniangelean - a feminine alligned gender relating to angels, deities, heaven, gods, holiness, and divinehood who are often very sleepy. this can be because of chronic illness or not!

Neusomniangelean (or just "Somniangelean") - a gender neutral gender relating to angels, deities, heaven, gods, holiness, and divinehood who are often very sleepy. this can be because of chronic illness or not! It can also be an umbrella term for those who identify as any type of somniangelean!

all coined by me!

[cloverwood]

woah just had a spooky experience. Just on reddit going thru my otherkin/therian/pagan subreddit mix and i land on this post about someone who does 'faerie genealogy'. didnt seem like smth that would pertain to me much but it seemed interesting. So im reading through the post and replies and in one reply (to a question about certain families/names that have historical connections to fairies) the first family they mention is the Mac Leod clan of scotland and immediately i get a FULL body shiver. I'm only a distant descendant of the clan but something about that made me feel quite wobbly inside. Like genuinely had to shake the tingles out of my hands.

ouuuf how odd.

[anaminals]

Oh, baby, I have missed human social cues and misunderstood human behaviors the existence of which you wouldn't've even noticed. Use your tail and ears like a normal person, and then maybe I'll get you