#or anti marauders? whatever

[fanfic-lover-girl]

James stans need any crumbs to paint him as a saintly hero. Even though some antis may think otherwise, he's not evil. But he's not a good person either.

Dumbledore is the worst Hogwarts teacher. Period. This man is a child groomer and a gaslighter. I don't care how grey he is. He disgusts me. I would love the Marauders again (I used to like James and Sirius a lot when I read Marauder fanfics) if they were simply disciplined properly by responsible adults in canon. Kids can be cruel but it's up to the teachers and other adults to curb their bad behavior! I dislike Minerva just as much as well for this reason. I wish people would see beyond the "Queen McGonagall" crap and realize how bad a teacher she is as well.

Like Sirius Black is a fascinating character and I love his relationship with Harry (flaws aside). I will defend that Sirius was the only adult who truly had Harry's best intentions at heart. Yes, even more than Dumbledore bootlicker Molly Weasley.

I see James Potter almost like MCU Thor. They are both charming bullies (Thor less so than James) and they hurt the people they are supposed to care about (eg. James threatening to hex Lily who is supposed to be his crush and Thor constantly invalidating Loki's pain). With proper discipline and punishment, James would certainly be the man Harry thought he was.

But no! Instead Dumbledore allows the Marauders to run wild with little, if any, repercussions. Snape almost died due to the werewolf murder attempt and James followed up this travesty with public humiliation and sexual assault. Then Harry has the nerve to think he can relate to what Snape went through in SWM. All the Potters are infuriating.

James 'saving' Snape from dying by werewolf Lupin's hand was not a heroic act. It was the bare minimum he could've done. It's not something he should be rewarded for. He likely doesn't want his friends to have a murder on their conscious, and I feel like that'd be more of a concern to him than Snape's life.

The fact that Dumbledore didn't punish them (or at least Sirius) for this. Forced Snape - 100% the victim in /this/ situation - to keep it all hush hush. There's a lot of discourse of Dumbledore not being the good guy he's posed to be. And I have to throw in his treatment of Snape with that discourse.

He tells Snape 'You disgust me.' A man who was abused at home. Who was relentlessly bullied in school, while Dumbledore did absolutely NOTHING to stop this. Favoured his bullies, REWARDED his bullies. That man is susprised that Snape was easily manipulated and groomed into a cult??? The only people that ever treated him nicely??? Maybe if he'd paid closer attention to all students, not just gryffindor, he would've seen how much Snape was struggling. Or well, he probably did see, but didn't care.

[itsriotmotherfuckers]

Remus John Lupin is a dorky nerd in tweed and cardigans who is only strong enough to carry books around, and lets everyone walk all over him, and cries when people go on discriminatory tangents about werewolves/queer people, and makes Sirius help him study, and folds his underwear/socks, and drowns in jumpers that are too big because he’s so skinny that he has to choose between them being long enough or tight enough, and he’s always cold, and he has back joint/back pain, and has a snort-laugh, and a little overbite you can only see when he smiles, and his clothes have elbow/knee patches, and he never gets angry because he’s so scared of being a monster

[sunnysaystuff]

there. did you see that? I just reblogged a jegulus post. and then...and then I reblogged a jily post.

let it sink in.

it's possible. please STOP throwing hate at people who ship jegulus exclusively (or jily exclusively, except they don't get NEARLY as much hate as the people who ship jegulus exclusively...) !! you're turning off people who ship both jily and jegulus to the fandom on the whole, and even jily!!

(I love jily SO much! I love jily more than I love jegulus, but I really hate what some of the jily fandom has become.)

[suncchaser]

This is a public service announcement:

If you write Lily Evans as James Potter’s second choice while he still secretly pines over his long-lost love, you hate her character and I need you all to stay the fuck away from her. Don’t say you love Lily while you humiliate her in your fics and headcanons for the sake of making the story between your mlm ships more tragic.

[superfallingstars]

Personally I think jily is supposed to be idealized (like how James and lily were idealized) to Harry. James gets knocked of his pedestal in swm and so does jily by Harry questioning if his father forced his mother into marriage. Later when talking to lupin and Sirius James and Jily get a slight defense and Harry is back to feeling alright but with the knowledge that things weren’t perfect.

I personally don’t read Jily as abusive (even though I read James as being abusive to snape at school, but I don’t think that violent, physical behavior was extended to Lily) but I definitely don’t read them as a “good” couple (whatever that means). I think you can read it in many different ways given there is so little of them and I think an interpretation that their relationship wasn’t the healthiest is perfectly plausible with the scant information we’re given.

Yeahhhh that’s probably what JKR intended. James and Lily are the fridged parents who are dearly mourned and missed, and as a result, their flaws are completely smoothed over in everyone’s memories. But in Snape’s Worst Memory, Harry learns the hard lesson that things aren’t always what they seem, and that nobody is perfect, not even his dead father. Hurrah.

My problem with this is that I think it’s very boring, LOL. Like it really is probably exactly what JKR intended (given her middle-of-the-road takes on every moral and political question that happens in these books), but man, it feels like such a cop out. James basically ruins Snape’s life for no reason, and the conclusion we’re meant to draw from this is just, well, people are complicated! NO!!!! Bad answer!!! Like, Snape also did some terrible things, but at least he spends a ton of pages actively suffering/atoning for his sins. But James, on the other hand, is only somewhat implied to have changed maybe slightly a little bit somewhere off-page, and we just have to take #1 James Potter fanboy Sirius Black and serial understater Remus Lupin at their word. So if James was supposed to be “redeemed” – or even just excused – wow, it really doesn't work for me. You can't go as dark as "protagonist questions if his father forced his mother into marriage" and then just brush it off like no big deal, Joanne! And it’s so frustrating, because all it would've taken to fix this would've been to show James being a good person instead of just telling the reader that he was one (proof: trust me?). Ugh.

So because of all that, I agree that from what we’re given, it’s quite difficult to read Jily as “good.” We rarely see them interact, and when we do, James’s behavior is wayyyy too similar to the trope of “terrible guy eventually gets the girl even though she seems to hate him with every fiber of her being because his persistence and not taking no for an answer is just toooo romantic to resist.” Which sucks, lol. It feels like JKR is basically being like, “eh, James was young and dumb, whatever” and giving him a huge out for all the grief he caused Snape (and Lily, for that matter) – and she expects that the reader will agree that that is a legitimate excuse for his behavior, and by extension think that it's reasonable for Lily to forgive and eventually marry him. And man, I am just not sure if that is enough to convince me. (And evidently, I'm not alone, considering the “Jily is abusive” meta post that likely sparked this ask!)

With that said, I agree that it’s a stretch to say that James was abusive (or even implied to be abusive) toward Lily. It’s not a completely unfounded take – it could probably be written well in a fic, and even be canon compliant – but you would really have to extrapolate that dynamic from the little information we’re given (as you pointed out). And more importantly (at least, re: that meta), I don't think JKR intended that interpretation at all.

Personally, I just don’t think it makes sense for the narrative for James and Lily to have been in an abusive relationship. And by the narrative, I mean Harry. If Jily is an abusive (or even just bad) relationship, that would have massive ramifications for the way Harry sees his parents. Ideally he would have to come to terms with that at some point – I don’t think it makes sense for James’s and Lily’s relationship to have been this way and not have significantly affected Harry – but imo JKR clearly does not want to deal with that. Like you said, the point of SWM – aside from foreshadowing Lily and Snape’s relationship – was to knock James off his pedestal and basically go, See, nobody’s perfect. <3 And the story is not interested in engaging with James’s behavior on a level any deeper than that lol. Which ok, I don’t love it, but if we’re not going to spend time dealing with morally gray James, then it doesn’t make sense for him to be even more morally gray (or rather, have him fall face first over the line into becoming a downright despicable person) by making him abusive toward Lily.

So that's my Doylist analysis: no way in hell did JKR intend Jily to be an abusive relationship, but she also didn't do a good enough job defending and/or redeeming James after SWM, so we're just left to speculate about how much he really changed. Still, I don't think "JKR is a bad writer" is a very satisfying answer. After all, the only reason that I'm engaging with this text in the first place is because I'm a fan of it, so I think it's also worth looking at it from a Watsonian perspective – or at least, to accept the events of the book as they're written and try to fill in the blanks. (Imo so much of the fun of fandom is trying to fill in those blanks in a satisfying way, to expand upon a character and try to reach a more interesting conclusion than the author did... And I would be remiss not to mention that, because it undoubtedly influences the way that I (and probably also you, if you're on this side of tumblr) engage with the text.)

So for me, as a Marauders era fan, I’m faced with: ok, I don’t really like the idea of these two characters together, but they canonically got together, and I think the story is better because they got together, and it’s better if they genuinely like each other, and it all had to happen somehow – so how can I explain it in a way that both makes sense with the story and is satisfying to me? And my answer to that is twofold.

First, I imagine that James was not always quite such an awful guy (as in, not always as showy, combative, and cruel as he was in SWM). After all, there is a glimmer of goodness in him when he chooses to save Snape’s life during the Prank, revealing that somewhere deep down, he does in fact have a moral compass. And second, I think that he has to have changed. And I mean a genuine change – one that might not have resulted in completely different behavior (after all, he was still hexing Snape through his seventh year) – but regardless, something that makes him seriously reflect on his actions and reconsider his motivations. His behavior in SWM is just too inexcusable for him to get with Lily – partly because Lily is generally framed as a Very Good Person, and partly because regardless of how she is framed, James was still awful to her – without any self-reflection or growth. Of course, the problem then becomes explaining this in a satisfying way!

And I have some ideas in mind – but they’re definitely more speculation than fact, and omg this post is long enough already. Luckily, I received another ask on this topic, so I will save my self-indulgent headcanons for that.

There is one last thing I want to mention, which is (part of) my reasoning for why James may not have been such a bully all the time and why I think he has the capacity for change, and it's been nagging at me ever since I read that meta post (which again, presumably started this whole thing). I think one thing that bothers a lot of people (including me!) about James is that it seems like he chooses to pick on Snape in SWM because of Lily’s presence. He wants to show off to her, so he keeps looking over to the girls by the water, he ruffles his hair, he deepens his voice, and he tries to get her attention by targeting Snape. Following this logic, we can presume that James wouldn’t have done any of this if Lily hadn’t been there – and that’s the part that got me thinking. I have to wonder if Lily was perhaps not the only person who James wanted to impress in that scene… in fact, I think it’s incredibly likely that James would have acted differently if the Marauders hadn’t been there! (Harry has "the distinct impression that Sirius was the only one for whom James would have stopped showing off," and Sirius saying that he's bored is the inciting incident for James spotting Snape...!) Yes it’s going to be a James masculinity analysis because this is what happens every time I talk about these fucking characters apparently. So idk, stick around if you’re into that.

And of course, thank you for the ask!

[lyrashifts]

i swear shifters are like people that got the cheat code to the universe

[bi-peanut]

I'm so done with the new marauders fandom.

[mauveberries]

sometimes, this is how i feel when i condemn the marauders for their actions while being a voldy fan account

[sorryimdyingrn]

I just wanna say. I just wanna say.

If marauders went to Hogwarts in the 70's, then probably they did NOT dress like the marauders that fandom shows most of the time (in grandpa sweaters, 2024 fashion or like rockstar style that I don't remember the name of)

Imagine you're Snape trying to have a normal day and you suddenly get attacked by them

And this of course goes to every single character, but do whatever you want I AM JUST STATING MY OPINION 😘

[seriousbrat]

btw why is wilkes always left out of slytherin skittles/death eater gang stuff. he's one of the people mentioned by sirius as being friends with snape and we know nothing about him other than he died, meaning he's fully projectable and unlike the lestranges he could actually have been at school with Sev and the others.

[expectopatronum18]

Ok this is probably gonna be controversial

Even though I generally don't mind the fanon marauders (i couldn't hate them more but also idc, let ppl hv fun), i think it's a very interesting phenomenon. Don't get me wrong, i definitely don't conflate what ppl enjoy in fiction with real life, but imo it's rather interesting to see how our values and worldview influences the literature we produce and consume (otherwise it wouldn't be necessary to completely change the marauders' personalities in the first place)

Generally, i think it's just that ppl want to impose current day values and trends on the characters they grew up with and thus have a great degree of nostalgia for, seems lyk a perfect mix. And most ppl probably don't want deep, complex and heart breaking stuff in something they view as recreation. And that unconventional ships are fun in general. The entire thing is just silly fun

But also, i think the specific characterization of the marauders as one dimensional social justice warriors who are completely correct all the time(to the point where they're justified in every wrong thing they do in the name of defending rights or sm shit) comes from the fact that a lot of ppl like to think of themselves in this way as well. There's no place for growth, correction or nuance, there's just good vs evil and right vs wrong. In the sense that they're the knights in shining armour and the rest of the world is purely evil. And this is just my opinion, but i think being an sjw is more of a cool fad now than anything else (particularly in the West). The purpose of what ur fighting for comes second to feeling good about yourself and having a superiority complex that comes with believing that ur completely, totally right with everything u say and do. The truth is, despite the fact that it's good to feel this way, i think literally no one is lyk this, no matter how accepting and empathetic they believe themselves to be. A lot of it is constantly questioning if ur doing the right thing and constantly critically analysing ur views and positions by trying ur best to see things from every perspective (or at least thts the way I see it). Everyone always has something they need to change. My point is, i think ppl hv a hard time accepting that those fighting for noble causes can still be wrong about other things and can still believe in the backward thinking of their time without being revolutionaries(a simple glance at history would have made this obvious but nvm) It obvs doesn't make it acceptable to the slightest but it is what it is, the younger generation learns from their mistakes and so on. This, imo, is particularly common amongst the more chronically online folks, those who see themselves as the ultimate upholders of justice. U can have assholes who are trying their best to do what is right while still being shitty in their own ways. Snape can save the world and represent the power of redemption while still being a pathetic and miserable person. James and Sirius can be extremely cruel bullies while still being brave and noble by risking their lives and fighting for the cause when they were barely out of school (particularly Sirius, given what he was raised to believe in). Regulus can still be honourable and brave for ultimately sacrificing his life in hopes of bringing down voldemort while still retaining the fact tht he was obsessed with a cult leader calling for genocide (and incidentally, we hv no proof tht regulus stopped believing in all his other prejudices before his death).

None of these characters need to be confined to the 'a part of the LGBT community- or homophobic' binary to categorise them into good and evil, in the sense that the uwu marauders and Slytherin skittles (who were literal DEs in canon) are always the good ones and Snape gets the rear end of the stick. Plus being a part of the LGBT community doesn't automatically make ur character interesting,complex, or better, neither does it need to be their entire personality..imo this idea isn't as progressive as it's made out to be and isn't the representation ppl think it is.

These are thoughts haphazardly floating around in my brain and I cannot write a satisfactory and conscise conclusion to save my life, so, uhh, feel free to fill in lmao

[transgendercastiel]

I’m so serious you can say as many fuck jkrs as you want but you’re still supporting a woman who is steadily endangering the lives of so many queer and trans people everywhere. You can’t death of the author someone who is gaining influence and impacting lives more every day. Even understanding the prejudices baked into her work and navigating them in a conscientious way won’t stop her from funding political parties. She’s been extremely open about how she perceives ANYONE who still engages with the HP franchise as a supporter of her views. How can you actively choose a media that you enjoy over a trans woman’s right to exist within society??

[rewritingcanon]

[jegulily] worse than jegulus but somehow less annoying idk how to explain it

dude this is so real! like it's hard to explain but it captures those feelings perfectly. like it is worse in a sense that it directly romantically connects an oppressed woman with her oppressor and that's gross, but it's also less annoying because of how fandom acts, they at least try to act like they don't completely erase Lily? I guess? so it's more palatable to 'see' rather than the complete erasure or demonization or downgrading that happens with jegulus, though you can still tell that she's treated like a third wheel and the lesser one in that poly and the only posts you see about the ship not working cause one of them feels like they don't fit in are always about Lily lol. but in the end both still bad in a sorta same way, cause they both only serve one character, Regulus irrelevant Black and that's it, they only exist for one character, cause neither James or Lily or their fans gain anything from these ships, they're both deliriously happy with each other and don't give a flying crap about the new twink of the month and don't 'need' him in their ships. yet still one of those camps is at least trying to fight the misogyny allegations while the other is just blatantly misogynistic.. so like there are layers and levels to the badness and annoyance here lmfao

im literally dying over “regulus irrelevant black” and “new twink of the month” because thats exactly how these new death eater babygirls feel to me all the time and we seriously need to retire the image. and i really said “idk how to explain it” and then you came and explained it perfectly.

it sucks because i do wish there was more love for polyamorous ships in fandom in general but did the popular had to have been jegulily?? youre also completely right about how jegulily shippers (from what i’ve seen) are mostly regulus fans, because the whole ship does seem to center around him in some way. it’s so funny how often lily would feel shoved into the ship absentmindedly when in reality the third wheel would be regulus. and there would be a third wheel in this scenario because canon lily and canon james wouldnt want to touch regulus within a ten foot pole. lily, who dumped her childhood best friend over his prejudices against muggles/muggleborns (that extended years of her having to look the other way) would want to voluntarily put herself in a relationship that could so much as entail the same sort of bullshit. james, who joined a whole ass war to defend the rights of the oppressed and had probs a million bitching sessions with sirius over how shitty his family was (including regulus) would want to date said character? mmm uh huh okay. fanon is getting out of control its time we curb stomp a lot of it.

ive yapped too much too long im not gonna even get into the jegulus part. it makes me too maddddd

[witchygfsgf]

everything i hate about the modern marauders fandom ✨✨

characters are stripped of all defining traits. example: In POA, Remus is overall, a kind person. He has faced huge adversity, and despite this, proves society wrong by being a good person, by helping, by listening, time and again. But in fanon, he is aggressive, rude to friends, believes himself superior to the dumb, weak Sirius, he hurts people physically and verbally, he sides with bigots, he is quick to anger etc. He is not allowed to be gentle, supportive, meek and kind.

by assigning a villain character an LGBTQ+ sexuality, they are protected by any criticism. It's seen as homophobic if you so much as point out canon actions, much less make theories/headcanons about them that aren't positive, or negative but "hot." Everyone's personality is either warped beyond recognition or sanitised to the point they did nothing wrong, or both. Creating a ship for them, especially a character who we've only seen do terrible, unjustifiable things, only romanticises them, watering down their personality to create an aspect of their life that isn't so terrible, all in the hope that this will "make up" for their actions. "Barty didn't torture Alice and Frank, silly. He was too busy getting railed by his hot crazy boyfriend." "What do you mean Regulus is a fascist? Tell that to his husband."

extreme misunderstanding of canon backstories. example: Fanon perpetuates the idea that Regulus betrayed Voldemort in the end, which must mean he held no bigotry to begin with, he hated his parents and his upbringing from birth, and his crimes weren't that bad because eventually he changed. In reality, he had clips of newspaper articles about Voldemort hung on his walls, a literal shrine. He did betray Voldemort, but there is no implication this is because his beliefs changed. The fact it was likely due to the fact Voldemort planned to leave his house elf to die is ignored every time people theorise. What was well-known information is know deliberately cast aside in favour of popular headcanon, even if it doesn't fit the character. Barty wasn't Imperiused when he first joined the Death Eaters! He did that by choice! But fans remembered his daddy issues and now that's all that matters. Your father being an asshole doesn't give you the right to join a supremecist cult.

women are neatly paired off in wlw ships to avoid them affecting plot. example: A Jegulus shipper feels bad that Lily has been sidelined. Instead of investigating why they never allow women to prosper with their canon love interests, they find out about Mary, and decide that she will do, so no one is lonely. In most cases, Mary and Lily's relationship is defined by a) being a softer, drama-free counterpart to Jegulus and b) that's it. But they will rarely further the narrative in fanfiction, let alone provide more than background diversity.

shipping is prioritised over all else. there is no headcanon, no fic, no piece of art, that depicts one character without making it extremely clear that they are soulmates with another, and any attempt to depict characters separately, to show their own traits and individual stories and familial/platonic relationships instead, is pushed to the side. similarly, any discourse is less important when not related to shipping. talk about how jegulus makes no sense and how jilys better and get 100 notes, but talk about the evans sisters and get none.

the ableism. example: Remus' condition is very similar to a disability or chronic illness. He is constantly exhausted, especially nearing full moons, appears prematurely aged from the stress on his body etc. And then there's the societal stigma. For example, he is unable to get a stable job because he will be fired for missing work for rest/a full moon (reminiscent of needing frequent days off for flare ups). It impacts him in every aspect of his life. Many fanon fans have decided to erase all of this in favour of creating the two symptoms that impact him at all. One being horniness, and the other being anger. He doesn't have extreme fatigue and even pain, he just wants to rail Sirius twice daily. He doesn't hate himself because he will never be viewed as more than a beast by society, he yells at his close friends, hurts people he loves, and is forgiven by those weaker than him, because he is first and foremost powerful and intimidating. Instead of allowing the reality of his condition to be portrayed, it must become sexualised in order to fit in with his fanon characterisation.

"there's no information about them in canon, we have to make it up." I guarantee you there is. You can gather a lot from a small piece of information while still having it be accurate, and then, you can expand on that and build on those ideas by creating headcanons. Headcanons should not contradict canon, that's an AU. But if you're talking about canon-compliant universes, and you claim there's no information on Sirius Black, who has a whole book named after him, I have to laugh. For rarer, smaller characters, it's more complicated, but she still exists, and you can still take certain things from her character. Take Mary MacDonald. She was assaulted with Dark Magic by Mulciber, a friend of Snape's who later became a Death Eater, and he was described as "creepy." Despite that being her only mention, you can infer plenty from it, and build your own ideas that could fit with her character given those roots. To say there is no information, you have to have tried to seek it out because I promise (without having to give money to the TERF) you will find more than you thought was out there. If you prefer to ignore it, be my guest, please don't let a stranger on the Internet tell you how to live your life. But that's a choice, not your only option.

the fatphobia. For a fandom that claims to be inclusive and diverse, their attitudes towards plus size people imply otherwise. Peter is canonically fat, and while in the original context of the books this is done for fatphobic reasons, erasing this representation lets plus size fans know that you don't think they should have a place in your world, that you'd rather they were skinny so that they match your standards of "hotness" that you change every character to fit in with. For example, since the 2010s, Dane DeHaan has been the primary fancast for him, despite being slim, and this detail is rarely looked upon as anything other than standard altering of characters' appearances - e.g. it's treated similarly to people who use Ben Barnes (an actor with brown eyes) to portray Sirius (a character with grey eyes), a minor mistake that can be excused based on preference. If Peter is allowed to remain fat, many fans treat him worse than those who make him thin. His only hobbies include eating excessively and baking/cooking. He priorities food over people, is lazy and greedy/selfish in regards to food, he is always seen eating something or thinking about food out loud. Any angst about him pre-betrayal is focused on the idea of giving him an eating disorder, which fans claim "makes so much sense." That reflects how you view real fat people, and it can make us feel uncomfortable to engage in content about an otherwise very interesting character, because this will almost always be coloured by society's negative perception of fat people. He is also held to a higher standard than other Death Eaters, such as Evan Rosier. I would say that this applies to all fan-favourite DEs but for sanctity's sake, I'm only using one example. Rosier is heavily romanticised, his actions are excused or diluted, and he is given a sob story and angst unrelated to his appearance. His canon friends (Snape's gang) are replaced and any attempt to remember his true affiliation is ignored. Peter is villainised from a young age, he is never shown to be more than a traitor, he never gets a backstory let alone one that attempts to explain his personality and choices, and all angst in related to his appearance and weight. His canon friends (The Marauders) do not care about him in fanon, as if they were gifted with the knowledge that he was always a traitor. The only difference between them is that one is viewed as conventionally attractive and the other isn't. Also, any attempt to imagine any of the characters as plus size, even those with no physical description, is shut down or ignored. Fans hate fat evil characters because it's "fatphobic" but hate fat, good characters more because it's ruining their idealised, perfect version of the series, in which everyone is thin and hot.

heteronormative ships. example: In canon, both Remus and Sirius are fairly masculine, for example in terms of the way they dress. However, Sirius has shoulder length hair, while Remus' is short. This is his only "feminine" trait, and is definitely part of why fanon later decides to feminise him. In fact, as Remus is gentler, more mild mannered and kind, you could argue that of the two of them, he is more stereotypically feminine. Fanon has latched onto the idea that Sirius is feminine, whether that be transfem or an identity under the non-binary umbrella, and therefore their personalities have been altered to fit this. Remus is no longer as described in the books, but aggressive, tough, rude, hot-headed and dominant. He has also changed physically. Whereas canonically his height was never mentioned, and he is described as having prematurely aged, and as thin and weak looking due to exhaustion and poverty, he is now muscular, tall and conventionally attractive. Sirius is no longer careless, mean, immature and selfish, he is weak, submissive, dramatic, stupid and obsessed with Remus, who seems in most cases to not care about him, or at least find his personality annoying and make it very clear. He is also short, his hair is even longer, he dresses in short skirts and low cut or cropped shirts with heels and jewellery, he wears makeup, and he is referred to with feminine terms. These are all stereotypes of women. Men can be feminine, and non binary/trans identities are of course valid, but by stripping him of all masculinity and increasing the stereotypical masculinity of his partner, fans effectively suggest that there should be "a man and a woman" in the relationship. Further, sexist ideas of what a man and woman should be like when dating are ingrained into the fandom version of the ship, for example Remus is almost always the aggressive dominant top, and Sirius is almost always the weak submissive bottom. This is true, though not to the same extent as Wolfstar, in every MLM ship in the fandom. I will say that it seems to be different for the WLW ships, but I'll elaborate on that later (see "the palatable kind of lesbian.")

shipping the oppressor with the opressed. example: At the point most fan works are set, Regulus is a Death Eater or close to becoming one. He shares their beliefs of Muggleborns and Muggles, and worships Voldemort. Lily is a Muggleborn girl. She has been called a slur for her background, and I'd say she likely faced similar if not worse oppression to Hermione. Shipping them together, despite the fact that Jegulily/Regulily isn't as popular as other ships, betrays their entire personalities. Would Regulus date someone he views as inherently inferior? No he wouldn't, but his character has been so butchered it becomes impossible for people to remember what would be realistic for him.

the palatable kind of lesbian. Marlene/Dorcas. Masc*/Femme. Typically 2 Cis girls. Skinny. Conventionally attractive. Relationship rarely interferes with the main plot. Lily/Mary. Femme/Femme. Typically 2 Cis girls. Skinny. Conventionally attractive. Relationship rarely interferes with the main plot. Pandora/Lily. Femme/Femme. Typically 2 Cis girls. Skinny. Conventionally attractive. Relationship rarely interferes with the main plot. Emmeline/Mary. Femme/Femme. Typically 2 Cis girls. Skinny. Conventionally attractive. Relationship rarely interferes with the main plot. Alice/Narcissa. Femme/Femme. Typically 2 Cis girls. Skinny. Conventionally attractive. Relationship rarely interferes with the main plot. Do you notice the theme?

*Marlene is often presented as "masc" but in a way that conveys that the fandom views her as the butchest they'll allow a character to be. She has long hair, wears skirts and dresses, wears elaborate makeup and excessive jewellery, and yet many people seem to claim her as representation that they don't view femme lesbians as the only "good" ones. These are all things that butch lesbians can do, but when a fandom that claims to be diverse doesn't allow their lesbian characters to stray outside of the acceptable standards for womanhood, when the most masculine female character there wears leather skirts, lipstick and has long hair...Their efforts to be inclusive aren't succeeding.

women are avoided at all costs to prevent them effecting gay ships. Now forgive me that this isn't 100% Marauders Era, but i like to rant so you're getting context, if anyone's reading this that is. Tonks. She is constantly treated as if she shouldn't exist by predominantly Wolfstar shippers who want to justify pushing her aside. "Well (insert TERF) made her up to stop people shipping Remus and Sirius." Not true. Wolfstar didn't become popular until after the release of the POA film, in around 2009, and even then it was around 2015 when the Marauders Era itself became less underground and 2020 when Wolfstar started getting all-colnsumingly popular. Before that, Snupin was more popular by a long shot. If she created a whole character to stop gay ships, it would have been that one. That being said, it's not. Tonks existed as her own person in OOTP onwards. When the TERF decided not to kill off Arthur in the Department of Mysteries she wanted to kill off Remus instead, and so he was not only a semi father figure to Harry, but a biological father to Teddy. It's likely that because this child and death were "needed" Tonks was put with Remus to fulfil those themes of loss. And yet, despite not existing to prevent them, many Wolfstar shippers treat her character as if she's in the way, as if she doesn't have a place in the story etc. She is treated like a child who can't make her own decisions, even at the big age of 24, and portrayed as a victim of Remus. In reality, she holds all the power in the relationship that an older man would. She has reputation, money and she's an Auror (Wizard cop). Remus however, has had any reputation he did have stripped in Book 3, he is poor and unable to get a job, and he's a werewolf, a minority that is heavily discriminated against. And yet the age gap is suggested to be the only thing that matters, and the primary reason their relationship shouldn't exist, and as a result, why Tonks shouldn't be acknowledged. According to fans, her relationship and very existence is problematic, and she destroyed Wolfstar. Two crimes that cannot be forgiven. She has to go. In fact, her own child isn't her's now. In fanon, Teddy is more of Sirius' son than he is her's. She is never even grieved.

basically, it's a beautiful fandom, and i love being in it, creating for it, discussing with people. sometimes people just need some critical thinking, but they refuse to do so because thinking deeper about canon characterisation apparently makes them a jkr supporter. it doesn't. don't give money to the bitch but enjoying characters as they are is not the same thing. not basing all headcanons off of stereotypes and instead caring about how they realistically would act based on their previous actions is not the same thing as hating on trans people. you can make up as many trans headcanons as you want while still appreciating the fact that lycanthropy shouldn't be sexualised, or more importantly, that plus size people shouldn't be mistreated.

anyways, do what you want im not your mum.

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The fact that it's so evident that most of the hate against Snape and the perception of him as irredeemable stems from the character being poor and having non-normative physical traits is no surprise, especially when you consider that 99% of his haters feel the need to justify the actions of rich, handsome bullies who roamed freely thanks to their privileges.

The only thing that perhaps bothers me a little is that the same people who support the abuse of power based on economic, social, and physical capital are the ones who pull out the supremacy card in their critiques. But well, I suppose everyone has their moments of strong cognitive dissonance.

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I need to stop reposting so much fucking shit because then I can never find the funny ass posts I make to laugh at and show no one because I’ll be exiled for having tumblr:/