#obey me nightbringer lesson 18 spoilers
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impish-ivy · 1 year ago
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Lucifer’s biggest fear, above losing his family, is one day when he’ll die and wake up back in the celestial realm. It’s his biggest fear. And we know he’s being honest because Mammon chastises him for being too serious.
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And in NB that’s so close to happening. He and his family are literally being threaten with war and violence if they don’t come back. To the place that they were unhappy, the place that killed their sister for the crime of being in love with a human.
Lucifer’s worst fear is so close to coming to fruition.
He’s being forced to choose to retruamtize his family by forcing them back into fighting in a war or forcing them back to a place that killed their sister, threw them out and would separate them from their newest family members.
This fear is also brought up as specifically being afraid of Father in Lesson 58(?) here
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misc-obeyme · 1 year ago
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So uh... Lesson 18 huh??
I'd just like to say that the juxtaposition of Lesson 18 being all sad and serious with the new event being all ridiculous was both weird and kinda nice? Like I needed that event to cheer me up after Lesson 18 almost made me cry.
Anyway, let's talk about it! Lesson 18 spoilers below!
Okay. I've seen some speculation that perhaps Lesson 20 won't be the end of season one. However, I don't think that's going to happen.
I think they're gonna pull some time travel shenanigans on us again. Or Nightbringer is gonna show up and deus ex machina this mess. Or the solution to everything is for MC to just make a pact with all seven brothers at the same time. Solomon did say that he thought they could do that in a past lesson. And if they do it all at once, it wouldn't take that long? Hmmm.
Anyway, I could speculate all day, but there were some really interesting things that happened in this lesson that I'd rather talk about.
First of all, Diavolo pulling out the Prince Voice on Raphael had me going OHHHHH lol.
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I honestly love Diavolo's different sides. It makes him feel so real, you know?
SPOILERS FOR HARD LESSON 18 (just skip this paragraph in case you haven't gotten to it yet!)
And I feel like that really is even more evident in the hard lesson where he talks to Barbatos about the difference between his head and his heart. And how all he really wants is for the brothers to be happy. Which was so dang sweet. And Barbatos just gives him that whole speech about what a great king he's gonna be. I was like I can't with these two.
HARD LESSON SPOILERS OVER
Anyway, the fact that Diavolo can just step into this Prince persona and be a leader when he needs to, but then he's just a silly guy when he's not needing to do that is very realistic to me. A lot of people have different versions of themselves that they only show at certain times or to certain people. Gives his character a lot of dimension, in my opinion!
And oh... can we talk about Mammon?
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My precious baby. I wanted to hug him so bad. I wanted him to continue to chew out Raphael. I mean, I know Raph is kinda just the messenger here, but I felt like Mammon was actually saying what everyone was feeling, but was too restrained to say. For some reason, everyone was just kind of letting Diavolo take the lead (and I guess that makes sense, he is the Prince after all and Raphael is basically saying they'll go to war over this). But Mammon was like oh hell no.
I agreed with him entirely. The Celestial Realm can go fuck off. I was NOT expecting this to be about the fact that the brothers have power in the Devildom now. Like are you kidding me? THAT is your big concern? Should've thought about that before you threw them out, GOD.
And when Raphael was like are you questioning Father's word to Lucifer and Luci just kinda got sad looking, I was like YES QUESTION HIM because Lucifer and his brothers deserve better than this bullshit.
It really feels like the Celestial Realm booted them out because the bros did something they didn't like, but now they've realized they made a mistake. So to get them back, they're gonna go down to the Devildom and threaten them.
Are they trying to get us to hate the Celestial Realm? Is that the goal here? I don't, obviously, but I think this was a pretty shitty move considering all that these guys have been through.
BUT THEN THE BROTHERS COMIN THROUGH WITH THE WE WON'T LEAVE SATAN
when I tell you I was crying... it was Belphie's fault.
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Pretty sure this was the line that made me tear up, but then we get the same sentiment from Beel and Asmo about not leaving Satan behind and I was just like that was MY HEART you guys just shattered.
Now let's talk about Solomon and Barbatos in 18-A, shall we?
Please refer to this collection of screenshots featuring my true love dishing out some real insults.
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WOW. Let him have it, Barb.
I don't know what Solomon did, but I do find this exchange incredibly interesting. Note that Solomon is wearing his human world outfit here. I kind of think human-world-outfit-wearing-Solomon is the imposter. He's the one who talked about the pact with Asmo first, where it didn't fit with his later version of the story. He was also the one who pushed all the brothers into Asmo's tub and therefore also the one who then made a pact with Asmo. He was also the one who commanded Barb to make a portal when he didn't want to and who had the discussion with Nightbringer.
I'm just sayin... maybe he doesn't know why Barb is mad at him 'cause we got more than one Solomon running around...
Buuut I could be completely off base here. We'll see, I guess!
This could all be resolved by the end of Lesson 20, you never know with this game lol.
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inhuman-obey-me · 1 year ago
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Diavolo & The Loyalty Thing
Alrighty everyone, we're going to be blunt here -- if there is one character misunderstanding in this fandom that has always pissed us off (jk there are many actually), it is how people interpret Diavolo's deal with Lucifer after the war.
We know a lot of y'all don't like him because of that agreement. We know a lot of you think that Lucifer is magically bound to Diavolo's will because of it, as with a pact, and is unable to defy him. We know that many of you dislike Diavolo because you think he was taking advantage of Lucifer in that scene.
Well, the devs have made it plain time and time again and even more so in Nightbringer: that is not the case.
You are wrong, and here's why. (Or, to put it more nicely, please let us convince you otherwise.)
(spoilers including Nightbringer Lesson 17 below the cut)
Let's start by reviewing the situation from Lucifer's side:
Lucifer, a guest to the Devildom many times before in a diplomatic coordination context, has just led, and subsequently lost, a civil war in the Celestial Realm. The catalyst that pushed him to start this war was the impending punishment declared against his sister, Lilith. Seeing that sister get fatally wounded in said war, he flies down after her falling body, where both of them land in the Devildom.
Diavolo then shows up with Barbatos, presumably because they, you know, saw two war-wounded angels falling from the sky into his domain. Lucifer turns to Diavolo and starts shouting that he knows the prince has the power to save his sister -- and pleads with him to do exactly that.
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Diavolo makes a point of telling Lucifer that it may not be in the way he expects or wants, but he agrees to do it on the condition that Lucifer swears loyalty to him. Barbatos attempts to interject against the idea, to which Diavolo responds that he's aware already that this is a big risk for him. Lucifer, upon realizing that he is becoming a demon himself as a consequence of the war, agrees to Diavolo's terms.
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(OG Scene on left, Nightbringer scene on right)
Diavolo then takes Lilith before she dies and reincarnates her as a human. This then remains a secret between the three of them from that moment all the way until the events of OG Lesson 15, when Lucifer finally confesses the whole thing to his brothers in the first timeline, and then OG Lesson 16, when MC reveals it (in the second timeline).
So to recap: Lucifer started a war with Lilith's punishment as the catalyst, lost, showed up in the Devildom, and then demanded the prince of that realm save his sister from essentially the same punishment he was fighting against in the first place.
To be clear about Diavolo and Lucifer's relationship at this point, they had been communicating about diplomatic affairs, as a governmental head and a top representative respectively. They are friendly, but not close friends yet. They are not allies in this war. Diavolo is not involved at all in the Great Celestial War or the situation with Lilith. And with this rebellion, Lucifer no longer holds that diplomatic status -- in fact, as mentioned in Nightbringer Lesson 8, the brothers were essentially war criminals in the eyes of the Celestial Realm, with Lucifer as the leader.
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Moreover, Diavolo's goal as prince is that he wants to establish peace and cooperation between the Devildom and the Celestial Realm. These two realms were enemies for the vast majority of history, and although there is a nonaggression agreement between them currently, it's a tense sort of truce, not true peace.
Helping Lucifer defy the Celestial Realm is in direct opposition to that goal. Taking in the brothers at all is pretty risky in terms of that goal, as Barbatos makes clear above, but there's at least a sort of implication that it is the Demon Prince's business what to do with new demons. Interfering in the Celestial Realm's punishment of one of its angels though? Well, Asmodeus and Leviathan understand right away when they learned the truth from Lucifer back in OG Lesson 15.
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There was a very real risk of pissing off the Celestial Realm that he had to calculate against here, and it's a risk that threatens not only him but everything that matters to him most -- his realm, which is a responsibility he takes very seriously, and his goals, for peace between the realms.
And then there's Diavolo's own precarious political situation.
Though Nightbringer retcons this a bit with Diavolo's father falling into a slumber and leaving the realm to Diavolo more suddenly, the original OM actually established that Diavolo was in charge before the fall, with the Demon King going off to sleep shortly after giving the brothers' their titles. And Nightbringer has shown that his position as the de facto leader of the realm is very much in question.
The nobles of the House of Lords are very blatantly unhappy about Diavolo and his goals, especially in regards to the now-fallen angels. Really, the whole realm doesn't really approve of angels -- they've made a clear point of it in NB, and even well into OG's main story, approval ratings for the exchange program are mentioned as being better but still pretty low, with various references to demons threatening to eat the angels.
But more to the point, the House of Lords has power over Diavolo. Though he is the rightful heir to the throne in terms of birth, they are able to challenge that right, and they even choose when he will be allowed to ascend to the throne -- something which, even in the distant future of OG, they still have apparently never allowed him to do, seeing as he's still not the king even after all this time. And just between his goals for peace and his taking in the fallen angels, they already maneuvered to punish him with suddenly demanding he go through the Kingsblood Crucible to potentially prevent him from ever becoming king. And as Diavolo says, even if he passes, they could still decide against appointing him king.
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Now imagine if they found out that he risked the safety of the entire realm to help save a dying angel. If they knew that, they probably wouldn't stop at just challenging his fitness to rule.
So, to be clear, when Lucifer showed up with Lilith, yelling at Diavolo to save her? Diavolo was NOT free to just do whatever he pleases. When he said he's taking a big risk by helping Lilith, he really was. There were so many reasons why he shouldn't, and no real reason why he should -- but Lucifer was begging him to do it anyway. So, he needed something in return. Some kind of reassurance, some kind of protection in the potential consequences.
And there certainly are consequences for helping Lucifer. Even with the Lilith deal being a secret, there are consequences. We saw that already with the House of Lords' increased animosity -- as said above, he was nearly removed from power over it. And as for the Celestial Realm?
Well, that brings us to the end of Nightbringer Lesson 17, where Raphael comes bearing a message from the Celestial Realm -- or, more aptly, a threat.
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(We could go into a whole thing about why the Celestial Realm is threatening this but that's for another time)
So, here we are, at the very dangerous crossroads that Diavolo finds himself at now in Nightbringer -- the Celestial Realm coming into his domain with blatant threats of war, while the nobles of his own realm just tried to remove him from power. Threats that are being made against him over helping Lucifer and the brothers. And that's without any of them knowing about Lilith, which would only make all sides even angrier.
You know what he could really use, amidst all those threats? An ally. Someone he could depend on to have his back. Someone he could rely on to be unequivocally on his side, in that very precarious balance of powers.
So that's what he asked for -- loyalty. For all that he was putting on the line for Lucifer's request, he asked for Lucifer to stand by him in turn. What he asked was simply this: "Don't stab me in the back. Don't leave me to deal with the consequences alone. If I'm going to help you, promise me you will be there for me too."
P.S. Lucifer himself has said he agrees with Diavolo's goals. Talking with Diavolo about the peace and cooperation plan was a huge part of why he started having doubts about the Celestial Realm! He was not being asked to do anything he disagreed with; Diavolo knew Lucifer feels the same about his goals as he does. Lucifer takes the loyalty thing too far in OG Season 1, but it was never the only reason for him supporting Diavolo!
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hallowxiu · 1 year ago
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YES THATS MY MAN POP OFF BITCH YOU TELL EM
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fluffydisneyprincess · 1 year ago
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FUCK IT WE'LL DO IT LIVE THIS TIME (L18 SPOILERS)
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Luci and I are on the same wavelength here. This was absolutely my thought. Fuckers.
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THIS WAS MY SECOND THOUGHT. LOOK HOW SAD SATAN IS. LOOK HOW DISSAPPOINTED. HE WON'T STOP THEM FROM GOING BUT ITS GONNA HURT. HE JUST GOT USED TO SEEING THEM AS BROTHERS. HOW DARE YOU HURT MY HUSBAND THIS WAY
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Again they note Barbatos' silence. WHY???? WHY IS THAT RELEVANT?? WHAT DOES HE KNOW??
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Big props and appreciation for Diavolo sounding like the King he is meant to be. Level headed but stern. Thinking of the way this will effect more than just his realm. Big love for that.
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GO 👏 OFF 👏 MAMMON 👏👏👏 TELL HIM. BE FULL GREED AVATAR ON HIM. FUCK 'IM UP.
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glamphantasm · 1 year ago
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Kai @ Lesson 18-A:
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impish-ivy · 1 year ago
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I like to think that Solomon’s insecurities make him think that MC is most comfortable with the brothers. Even if MC themselves doesn’t agree with that perspective.
begging solmare to stop insisting to us that EVERY mc would be most comfortable at the house of lamentation in nightbringer. The brothers aren’t the only romantic options. Why should an mc that, for instance, is in love with solomon (or is even just good friends with him)… the only character from their actual time… be forcibly told by the narrative that they’re more comfortable around versions of the brothers that are essentially strangers to them?
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melverie · 7 months ago
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⸺ LESSON 10 ⸺
Solomon
Lucifer
Solomon & "Nightbringer"
MC's magic
strange feelings & soup
the 'MC is human' situation
records of a banshee
misc
- lesson 9 || lesson 11 || all posts so far -
I'm going to reveal my crack theory on Nightbringer's identity soon since the brainrot is getting out of hand, but then again, it shouldn't be hard to guess based on the points I bring up for this lesson :) I'm still preparing a sideblog for that tho, so it might take a bit Also if someone wants to get tagged for these recaps, do let me know! General spoiler warning for all of Obey Me Nightbringer, as well as for the original Obey Me
⸺ SOLOMON ⸺
Solomon suddenly shows up at HoL uninvited and claims he and Simeon have plans for drinking tea together. Simeon doesn't remember ever making such plans [10-4] -> while we're not told what they are talking about, I'm guessing it has to do with 10-A -> love how he just was at Nightbringer's tea party, and now his immediate response when asked why he's here is just "......Simeon and I are having a tea party" lol
by the time Solomon arrived at HoL, Satan was already outside, yet he didn't realize Solomon came over [10-18] -> while you can argue that Satan was just so caught up in watching the cat, he does notice MC coming over, the brothers leaving to the Demon Lord's Castle, AND this is the same demon that could later tell on that MC was standing in front of his bedroom door based on the intervall of their footsteps
⸺ LUCIFER ⸺
Belphegor talks about Lucifer trying (+ failing) to hold in his laughter [10-1]. Demon!Lucifer would never :(
Lucifer seems overly reluctant to take MC with him and Belphegor at first [10-4]. When asked why, he deflects -> he was kind of quick to entertain the idea of taking Solomon with him as the 'uninvolved third party' though
Lucifer seems surprised that Belphegor was denied entry to a shop back when they first arrived in the Devildom [10-6; pic below] -> since this treatment from the denizens was part of the reason Mammon wanted to gain the title of 'Rulers of the Underworld', you'd think that Lucifer would be aware of this kind of treatment happening in the first place...
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it's raining, which reminds the brothers of the day before the Great Celestial War + according to Lucifer, it was unusally quiet [10-9]. The brothers talk about what everyone was doing that day:
Belphegor was napping in a tree and was all alone that day [10-11] Beelzebub was off in the human world to run an errand on Michael's behave [10-11] Asmodeus was taking a bath, and thinking of ways to get out of Raphael scolding him later on [lesson 10 hard mode] we don't get any comment on Satan, but he was obviously still part of Lucifer, so uh... Would have been interesting to know if he has any fragments of Lucifer's memories of that time tho Leviathan and Michael were taking a walk and talking [lesson 10 hard mode] Mammon was tasked with covering Beelzebub's gatekeeping duty, but he ended up skipping out of it [lesson 10 hard mode] and then there's Lucifer who was......somewhere. The game doesn't tell us what he was up to, but instead points out that no one knows where he was [lesson 10 hard mode; pic below]
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Lucifer hogging the family braincell as usual and immediately realizes that, yep, MC has the Ring of Light [10-16] -> btw kind of unrelated but I do find it funny that out of all the characters to (originally) head to the Demon Lord's Castle to free Beel, it was MC and Luci & Belphie. You know. The only two brothers that wanted to attack MC once they found out that they are a human. Imagine what would have happened if Mammon, Levi and Asmo hadn't shown up lol
⸺ SOLOMON & "NIGHTBRINGER" ⸺
[hi, this is probably the only time I'm bringing the Japanese version into this recap simply because I already translated this specific scene here]
illusion!Diavolo and illusion!Simeon pressure Solomon into choosing either demons or angels. Solomon chooses the secret third option :) [10-A] -> since this illusion was most likely created by Nightbringer, we can assume that he wants Solomon to either choose his side (whichever that may be), OR to simply abandon humanity altogether -> a little later on Solomon implies that Nightbringer should know by now that Solomon won't ever waver on his convictions -> Nightbringer knows Solomon well enough to know that threatening MC's safety might get him to change his mind. Solomon does stop smiling at this threat, so he does seem to take the threat seriously
during the illusion tea party, Solomon says that he just wants to be free, and that that's part of his agreement with "him" [10-A] -> while we don't know for certain, I'm guessing his agreement is with Nightbringer since it would make sense narrative-wise
Solomon also tells Nightbrignger that he sounds like a demon [10-A] -> sounds like something you'd either say to someone who isn't a demon, or someone who only recently became a demon
Nightbringer says that Solomon is acting more like a demon than he is because of his arrogance [10-A] -> Solomon then says that it is inevitable that he behaves like a demon since Nightbringer made him to the person he is today
Two fun facts about the Japanese version! 1. Nightbringer uses 「傲慢」 for 'arrogant', which also happens to be the word used in the game for the deadly sin 'pride' 2. instead of saying "you're the one who made me who I am today", Solomon says that Nightbringer is the one who reduced him to what he is now
when Solomon calls Nightbringer......'Nightbringer' (lol), he actually puts his name in quotation marks in the Japanese version [10-A; pic below]. Makes you wonder if he actually is the historic Nightbringer we learn a little of later on, or if it's just someone using that name...
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「」 are the Japanese quotation marks
⸺ MC'S MAGIC ⸺
MC one again absorbs the brother's magic in order to calm down Beelzebub [10-16]
⸺ STRANGE FEELINGS & SOUP ⸺
beast mode Beelzebub is heading to the colosseum, and Lucifer points out that it was build on the exact spot the brothers first landed in the Devildom [10-13]. That was a year ago. Why is it built already??
Leviathan points out that the Great Celestial War feels like a really long time ago [lesson 10 hard mode]
⸺ THE 'MC IS HUMAN' SITUATION ⸺
[hey, we finally reached the reason I wanted to make this its own category, whuu!]
so here's the thing:
1. back in lesson 8, Diavolo said that while he is now fairly confident that MC is indeed a human, he still can't be 100% sure because there is "something else" within MC [8-1; first pic below] 2. back in OG season 3, fairy illusion!Lucifer asks MC what they are. If MC answers that they are an angel, illusion!Lucifer says this that he knows when he is in the presence of an angel, but also admits that there is something else within them and that he can't say so for certain [OG 52-5; second pic below]
THE REASON I'M BRINGING ALL THIS UP is because now in lesson 10, Lucifer once again mentions being able to tell when he's in the presence of an angel. This time, however, he indirectly claims that he can tell that MC isn't one [10-16; third pic below]
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⸺ RECORDS OF A BANSHEE ⸺
Beelzebub managed to escape from his prison cell and we learn about the state he is in [10-9; pic below]. Once again, it seems like too big a reaction for just hearing the word 'banshee'
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we also learn that Beelzebub's rampage started right after the brothers left earlier [10-9; pic below]
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Barbatos actually blames the brothers for Beelzebub's escape [10-9] and I am inclinded to believe him because:
1. Solomon was (supposedly) with him earlier, meaning Barbatos would have known had Solomon tried to pull something. And yet he is blaming the brothers 2. while Solomon could have just been sneaky & teleported away right after putting some kind of spell/curse on Beelzebub, the other characters mentioned last lesson that Beelzebub was already acting beside himself during the dinner party, meaning it must have been someone who was also at the dinner party. From what we know, Solomon was with MC at the time 3. while it could have been both Solomon AND Barbatos, I seriously doubt that Barbatos was involved in this situation in any way. Diavolo is already in a lot of distress because of suddenly having to govern the Devildom, MC's situation, Lucifer's comment last lesson and so. much. more. The Beel situation right now just causes Diavolo even more stress, and doing something like that just feels COMPLETELY out of character for Barbatos 4. speaking of seeming out of character, it's not like Barbatos to just baselessly accuse others like that, meaning he probably had a solid reason to blame the brothers 5. I am reaching with this one, but I like the idea lol--Diavolo still has the ability to tell lie from truth, and while Belphegor vehemently denies having played any part in Beelzebub's escape, Lucifer never outright says so
they suddenly start arguing that Beelzebub is acting like this because he's hungry [10-13] -> thing is, we later learn that he's lacking his "demonic disposition" and that the hunger he feels is all No. 6's doing. So unless No. 6 suddenly decided to go all in that can't be true
⸺ MISC ⸺
Belphegor tells MC a little more about Lilith + we get Michael lore (he looks like a jellyfish :] ) [10-1]
Belphegor also tells us that the Celestial Realm forbids angels from intervering with a human's life [10-1]
Belphegor's line from the website [10-1; pic below]
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the sibling bickering <3 [10-6; pic below]
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Simeon reassures Satan that they will one day be known as "the seven brothers" [10-18]
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envioussleepy · 9 months ago
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I just had the funniest thought I wanna share...
Spoilers for Lesson 18 in Nightbringer Obey Me
Don't read past this point if you don't want any spoilers
Includes: Cursing, Kissing, Poly MC, Etc.
So you know how the MC gets to give kisses or hugs to the demons after finding out about the possibility of a war if they don't return to being an angel? Well I had a funny idea I might turn into a comic strip. MC Kisses everyone except Asmodus.
Imagine how PISSED he would be if all his brothers got kisses except him? Even if he eventually found out that the MC is a polyamorous person? He would be SO MAD. Like-
Asmodus:
How dare this mere human not kiss me, the avatar of lust? The most beautiful person on the planet is not kissed by them but all of my disgusting brothers do?!
He would definitely have a mental breakdown over this shit for real.
(Btw I'm not a fan of asmodus that's why he got no smootchies from me)
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sleepey-demon-liker · 2 years ago
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Hello lovelies and welcome to my blog! This is strictly an Obey Me! and Obey Me! Nightbringer blog!
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About Me...
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If I had to pick a favorite character from the series, it would probably be Leviathan!
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weirdshapeddog · 3 days ago
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Obey Me! ramblings, mild spoilers for OG, some spoilers for NB early lessons
Okay so I FINALLY basically finished OG (got to lesson like 69 but I know what happens story-wise approximately so I’m not pressed to truly finish in a rush. I will finish! Just… when I can) - I had taken a pause to try and level cards, and then at one point saw an upcoming lesson in NB was related to a lesson in OG I hadn’t done, so wanted to finish OG before going too far in NB. And frankly, I’m glad that I did.
I know folks say you can play NB without playing OG, but I have to strongly disagree. Playing OG first gives you the buildup of affection for the characters, yes, but it also gives SUPER important context for the NB lessons. And! It also makes some options for your actions in even early NB lessons make more sense.
F’ex, when I played the lesson with Dia’s trial in early NB, we get the option to kiss him… and unless you’ve played to like lesson 60-something in OG, that makes NO sense because he doesn’t even get to fully confess his feelings to you until lesson like 50-60something. LIKEWISE, we don’t get Solomon’s confession in OG until lesson 50-60something (it’s been a few days, I forgot the exact lessons). But still! Playing through OG with the idea that NB happens probably very shortly after OG makes the MOST sense.
In that order - finishing OG then starting NB - we’ve JUST gotten our relationships with Sol, Dia, Simeon, and Barbatos started since the latter doesn’t confess til 70-something smh so Solomon’s attentive husband-y personality makes sense, as does our ability to be familiar and affectionate with people in ways you wouldn’t really be unless you knew them. I had more thoughts on that but in the seconds I’ve been typing they’ve flown out the window lmao
Relatedly though, while I’m only on chapter 18 for NB, I’m calling it now; Nightbringer is Barbatos. There was a sneaky little chapter (one of those “get A rank for all the battles and you can unlock this” things) where we see a convo between Solomon and Nightbringer. We don’t SEE Nightbringer, but Solomon is clearly familiar with them, joking with them… and then, after Nightbringer comments on how Solomon is, Solomon basically says (paraphrasing) “I’m like this because of you!” - and I know from spoilers I’ve seen that Barbatos helped to teach and basically raise Solomon… PLUS one of Solomon’s homescreen dialogues (not special guest just the homescreen) says he has “a strange feeling about Barbatos”… AND Nightbringer is said in early-ish lessons too to be a demon in control of time. Like… that’s literally just Barbatos. Idk if we’ve had it confirmed in later chapters yet WHO Nightbringer is, but I’m calling it as Barbatos because they basically have all but said it already in game. The big question is WHY did Barbatos, if he is Nightbringer, decide to throw us back in time? And given the idea that he had just barely acknowledged his feelings for MC relatively recently (in the context that NB happens shortly after the end of OG)… AND potentially that his anger towards Solomon in NB is a “ripple effect” as I’ve seen it phrased… was Barbatos looking to gain something personal in sending MC back? Does past Barbatos KNOW who MC is and just pretends he doesn’t? I could see it, with what we know about him. Barbatos my beloved eldritch horror
*Editing to add: in lesson 20-11, Barbatos thanks us for ensuring everything turned out “as it should”… 🧐 yeah, I’m definitely banking on Barbatos being Nightbringer.
On Obey Me! as a whole - re: the news of no updates - with some of the stuff we’ve gotten as part of the “farewell”, I can’t help but to wonder if the series may take a more adult turn. We get calls from each of the dateables wherein we are either invited or can invite ourselves to bathe with the characters/otherwise engage in adult stuff that is hinted at (ie in Lucifer’s call)… not to mention, at least one of the special pics we get - specifically Belphie’s - has some adult vibes to it! Like, he LOOKS like he’s stripping. Like…
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That is in his bed. That is in the room he and Beel share, on Belphie’s half, in his bed. Tell me it doesn’t look like he’s got the viewer pinned down and is getting undressed? I’m not the only one who sees it, this was something I saw others discussing too.
Maybe this is just me being the Adult Guy™ that I am, but frankly, I would be delighted if Obey Me! went for something more adult going forward. I’ve been also playing What in Hell is Bad? lately and enjoying it, and would be thrilled to see the Obey Me! boys in a similar game. *Note: if you’re someone who is unsettled by dark content, do NOT play What in Hell is Bad?, as they are NOT shy about kinks/fetishes/paraphilias. It is not for kids, and it is NOT for people sensitive to dark content, especially dark content in a sexual setting. Again, many characters have paraphilias in the game that are used to interact with MC, so if you were considering playing but don’t like dark sexual content, don’t play.
ANYWAY I don’t know that Obey Me! would ever go straight up 18+ content route but I wouldn’t be upset about it personally if they did. They were super vague in their announcement, and seemed to be hinting that there would be new content coming out at some point, just not for the current games, so I’m hoping they either come out with a third app or maybe go with a cross-platform format. Whether that content will be what we’ve always gotten or if they’ll shift gears, idk, but… yes. That’s my ramblings on it all. I’m glad to have finished OG and am looking forward to playing through NB now! ^^
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impish-ivy · 1 year ago
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Obey me NB Lesson 18 Node 18-A
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mybeautifulreina · 2 years ago
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My Masterlists!
Thank you for stalking/ liking/ reblog/ comment/ following my post! If you're too lazy to scroll my tumblr then this post will help you. Happy stalking my account my dear stalker.
Shitpost:
1. Daddy issue
2. Another day, another shitpost
3. Dancing veggies
4. my assumption (the brothers)
5. twerking
6. raining
7. sacrifice
8. traumatised your textbook
9. box
10. fridge
11. morning!
12. cute
13. sick
14. manga
15. cat
16. Sibling Thing
Headcanon:
1. Diavolo (short)
2. Mc in debate competition (the brothers)
3. the brothers accidentally hurt mc [request]
4. Quite and shy child!Mc (the brothers)
5. Mammon (short)
6. gn mc with a country accent (the bro + dateables) [request]
7. My world (the brothers)
8. Fruity friendship (the bro + Diavolo) [request]
9. Lucifer (short)
10. Mc want to be their scary dog privilege (the bro + Solomon)
11. Glasses (the brothers)
12. The Brothers Room (the brothers)
13. yes sir, i will bring them at 6pm (the brothers)
14. voice cover for make up tutor (the brothers)
15. tongue twister (the brothers)
16. snores (the brothers+Diavolo)
17. smoking (the brothers+ the dateables-Luke= Mc simper)
18. I had a dream that you were cheating on me! (the brothers)
19. Mc good in sport (leviathan and Beelzebub)
20. Snap (the brothers)
21. The Ring (the older brother)
22. Driver (the brothers)
Fan fic (all of them are LuciferxGn!?Mc LMAO except reverse au):
1. Major spoiler for lesson 38. (Obey Me! Shall We Date!)
2. Reverse au! [request]
3. Smile (short)
4. sway
5. Please Comeback (Obey Me! Nightbringer)
My thought(s):
Lucifer and his little hooman
teasing The Avatar of Pride
Birdie love life?
updated: 13/6/2023
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hallowxiu · 1 year ago
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how is he so wholesome yet also easily one of the scariest brothers??
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fluffydisneyprincess · 1 year ago
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MORE LIVE THOUGHTS FROM L18
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And here is where I find myself in the position, not for the first time in my life, of screaming: GET BENT MICHAEL
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OK BUT BIG DIFFERENCE RAFFIE BOI. YA'LL TURNED YOUR BACKS ON THEM. LUCIFER ESPECIALLY. YOU BURNED THOSE FAMILY TIES YOURSELF. FUCK YOU AND YOUR MANIPULATIVE BULLSHIT.
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😭😭😭😭😭 I'm sorry Luci I just want to help
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fluffydisneyprincess · 1 year ago
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L18 LIVE REACTS
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BASED
Belphie out here being so based and so precious I love him so much
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BELPHIE YOU'RE TOO PRECIOUS I LOVE YOU SO MUCH 😭😭
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