#obey me lesson 58

[impish-ivy]

Lucifer’s biggest fear, above losing his family, is one day when he’ll die and wake up back in the celestial realm. It’s his biggest fear. And we know he’s being honest because Mammon chastises him for being too serious.

And in NB that’s so close to happening. He and his family are literally being threaten with war and violence if they don’t come back. To the place that they were unhappy, the place that killed their sister for the crime of being in love with a human.

Lucifer’s worst fear is so close to coming to fruition.

He’s being forced to choose to retruamtize his family by forcing them back into fighting in a war or forcing them back to a place that killed their sister, threw them out and would separate them from their newest family members.

This fear is also brought up as specifically being afraid of Father in Lesson 58(?) here

[turtleybeachin]

PLEASE the wheeze that i whuzzed, the gasp that i gusped. i'm cackling.

not solomon's "dear" with his cute stupid giggle. not mephisto's deadpan straightfaced "you're so great. :|"

not levi's Widening Eyes at being mocked by them both.

[sane-omblog]

Lesson 58-A is so cute

Simeon being in good mood and all smiley again heal my soul. Solomon's reaction is just so adorable.

I was hoping Simeon will put him in brother/family column tho this works too

Why this Purgatory Hall gang has to be THIS CUTE I don't know any more words that means cute😭😭😭😭

[omnomnb]

WHY ARE WE BACK TO THIS DUMB FUCK SCIENCE FESTIVAL AGAIN

am i missing something why's lesson 58 out already??

[atticsandwich]

(lesson 58 kinda-spoilers but also actual spoilers)

this slip up 🤭🤭🤭

anyways i'm kinda pissed that this season is shaping up to be my favorite off of nightbringer only for it to be the last one we'll get.... ourghhh when it first started i really didn't know how they were going to use the SF as a conduit for the major season issues, which, on lesson 41, we figured would be simeon's demonic transformation, only for them to ALSO tackle MC's rising power, a glimpse into faction that are against diavolo's ascension to power, raphael releasing his bottled up emotions and revisiting babel, which was an early plotpoint in the season (thanks asmo)....

no i'm not saying this is perfect writing or whatever, but it was enjoyable, decently paced (though yeah. could be better), allowed for character exposition and development, and also was a creative way to blend in the major plotpoints into one condensed point (SF finals)

yes i know that obey me technically isn't dead, but the fact that we aren't getting any new in-game content after the celestial box event is still very real and very sad. i know a lot of people are thinking maybe they'll get into radio dramas or maybe an animated series, but again, i'm in the group of people that feel like those expansions take away a lot of the immersion, especially since it takes away a lot of MC's agency that we had full control of in the game

sorry for transitioning what was initially just me posting about lesson 58 into. like. doompost adjacent again. but whatever!!

p.s. can someone tell me why thirteen doesn't have a seasonal card feature... she's literally nowhere to be seen on the dark santa cards?????? like i get solmare treats her weird sometimes where one day she gets all the side character fanservice while the next she gets dust but like. the seasonal celestial boxes (since nightbringer) have ALWAYS featured all the side characters, so.... what gives????????? i don't know whether to get pissed or just be confused

[666writingcafe]

Obey Me, 666writingcafe Edition (Lessons 41-60)

Lesson 41: Reunion

Lesson 42: Snapshot

Lesson 43: Confession

Lesson 44: Witness

Lesson 45: License

Lesson 46: Battle

Lesson 47: Reckless

Lesson 48: Confrontation

Lesson 49: Hunting

Lesson 50: Travel

Lesson 51: Time

Lesson 52: Message

Lesson 53: Chastity

Lesson 54: Abstinence

Lesson 55: Kidnapped

Lesson 56: Rescue

Lesson 57: Trial

Lesson 58: Fear

Lesson 59: Departure

Lesson 60: Goodbye

[sparkbeast20]

There is this one Episode of Justice League Unlimited titled "Epilogue".

What's happening to Terry (The new batman) is a great comparison to Satan from Obey me.

I'm on the unpopular side of "What is Satan's relationship with Lucifer" Where I see him more as his own brother, rather then Lucifer's "Son"

The episode is about Terry finding out that he is Bruce (The Batman) biological son. And he feels hopeless, because he thinks that he was destined to be batman and he hates it. Cause he feels like he's just Bruce's clone

But Amada Waller gave him a speech about what he is, and that he is Bruce's son.

I can see this theme of the story and make a parallel to Satan's feeling at the matter.

You can view this as either Satan being Lucifer's son, or for me. Satan is completely different from Lucifer. But all the comparison to Lucifer's mannerism, subtle gesture, etc. Makes him feel like whatever he does that he enjoy, he can never shake this feeling that he is just a copy of Lucifer.

What made me lean more on Satan being Lucifer's son is that, in Lesson 58 - 15 you get Intimacy when you choose "You're Lucifer's younger brother"

And that even if he hates being compare to Lucifer, he still like to be seen as one of the brothers.

Not to mention, that there is a differences between a sibling relationship from a father and son relationship.

Lucifer sees Satan as one of his brothers, at the same level as the others, seeing him as his son gives off vibe that Satan is lower than him in the family and he doesn't see that. He acknowledge Satan individuality as a sibling would.

Hope it make sense, cause when I watched the episode years ago, and now someone reviewing it. I can't help to see the struggle of Satan's character in Terry.

[yanderemommabean]

Gonna go cry now cause I can’t get my old obey me profile due to my busted phone unable to get me my transfer code

Three years of playing, level 120 something or more, lesson like 58, and I can’t get it back

Imma go die it was nice knowing ya

-Mommabean

[emmys-grimoire]

Lesson 58 analysis + 59 predictions

I expected this lesson to drop tomorrow! It was a pleasant surprise. Sort of.

tl;dr Summary

When we last left our heroes, they were about to be decked by the bogeyman. We get saved, though! And it scampers off into a nearby room. The lesson is then just each brother tagging along with MC as they enter the room and one by one they get scared off, or do damage to the bogeyman.

Asmo’s greatest fear is just an uglier version of himself, which really does not lend any depth or credibility to the theory that he isn’t entirely self-involved. Belphie is frightened of a particular alarm clock that Satan once got him and possibly the dark (?).

Beelzebub at least gets an illusionary scene change with scary music + animated flame overlay, and his scene involves him accidentally hitting Belphegor with one of his attacks (bogeyman takes the form of Belphegor). The illusion backdrop is the Celestial Realm, so it’s clearly trying to draw a parellel between what is occurring in the illusion and what happened to Lilith.

Satan gets a similar treatment, only it’s a flaming coliseum and he’s being taunted by angel Lucifer about just being a budget Lucifer. Real Lucifer talks him out of it by pointing out their differences, but I found the things he brings up pretty surface level (he likes music while Satan prefers reading, Satan likes cats while he prefers dogs, etc.)

It seems like Satan’s wrath powers are enough to finally vanquish the bogeyman and everyone breathes a sigh of relief… UNTIL IT COMES BACK for one last round. You guessed it: it’s Lucifer’s turn.

A familiar shard of light appears in the corner of the screen, but Simeon seems to react more to it than Lucifer does. Lucifer tells him to calm down and claims it’s “his” light (spoiler: it’s not), and effortlessly banishes it once and for all. It’s very anti-climatic… because this isn’t the real climax.

Simeon, however, doesn’t recover right away. Or at all, really. We get interrupted when he’s ready to finally tell us (or later, Lucifer) what’s bothering him, so we’re kept in the dark. We receive our last star and celebrate becoming a full fledged sorcerer.

Only Luke has heard a rumor about a three-headed wolf prowling around that he informs us of via text. Guess what’s going to be the real climax?

EDIT: @obey-mes-treasure has a better explanation about Lucy's and Belphie's fears in the comments.

Analysis

Luke’s power

If we needed any confirmation that Luke has great potential, we got it in this lesson. The bogeyman’s powers don’t affect us because Luke’s blessing is still in effect and protecting us. He may be a smol angel, but his power rivals many of the high-ranking angels already. It explains why Michael has taken an interest in him, probably, but you’d think an angel like him would have been ranked already… unless Michael is deliberately refusing to rank him for some reason. Maybe he doesn’t want to train more archangels/soldiers given the three realms seem to be moving towards peace?

It does put Mammon mocking him by suggesting one day he could be a seraphim earlier in the season in a different light, though. Michael might be grooming him to be his heir, or something akin to that. It also explains why he didn’t worry about sending Luke into the Devildom in the first place, in spite of his youth. The kid could handle himself even if he isn’t aware of it.

Figure in the light

Lucifer and Simeon fear the same thing, but Lucifer handled facing whoever it was much better. I think this is probably daddy. The reason why Lucifer was capable of withstanding it is because he was preparing for his stand-off with their father for centuries before he finally rebelled, is my guess.

It could be Michael, but I expect Simeon interacts with him frequently, and he’s already made it pretty clear that he has a cavalier attitude about angering the guy in Season 2. Simeon could fear having to watch Michael and Lucifer fight again, though, if all three of them were close before the Great Celestial War. Can’t imagine that was a fun time for him.

But, if how the Celestial Realm as a whole functions is any indicator, all three of them probably fear Father the most. That fear kept them in line until it didn’t.

This also lends some credibility to the “empty throne” theory that posits Father has been absent for a prolonged period of time for some reason, if it is him.

This is the second time this season that Simeon has expressed these sort of doubts. I think someone is suffering from insecurities and regrets more and more these days, and it seems like associations with the Celestial Realm trigger them. I doubt he’s going to fall – like I’ve said before, he actually seems to enjoy partaking in the standard angel duties – but it is noteworthy. He might have a complicated relationship with Father, too.

The three-headed wolf

This is going to be the actual climax, which is kind of dumb considering it literally was introduced this lesson. Just dropped in there.

I don’t think Cerberus is a wolf, though? He looked more like a hound in his art. Looking up “three headed wolf” on Google gets you Cerberus, though.

Predictions

We’re going to deal with the wolf thing next lesson and then have a rushed season ending or end it on a cliffhanger. It’s going to make a mess of things and we’ll have to tame it, and/or a certain SOMEONE in the Celestial Realm will need to step in to keep collateral damage to a minimum. Still confident he’s showing up in some capacity.

HOPEFULLY we’ll finally get confirmation about the identity of the celestial light person that the bogeyman tried to emulate. But we don’t get that closure in this lesson.

Not sure if this is going exceed Season 1 or Season 2’s quality, though. The ring of light suddenly being introduced at least gave us more insight into Simeon’s character and the telepathic conversation with Michael. Suddenly introducing a new beastie to fight in the second to last lesson of the season seems way too heavy-handed, and I’m not sure it’s at all related to whatever Michael’s plot is.

I guess we’re saving the answer to that question for season 4?

[pigeonmotel]

“Simeon said that Lukes blessing protected you, that you saw what everyone else saw but…are you sure that wasn’t your boogeyman?”

[densetu-wolfenius]

Spoiler from lesson 58 below,you have been warned

This lesson sure was a ride, holy guacamole, and when you think the freaking boogeyman is done for it appears again to strike back like some bad allergies. The MC is with Lucifer and Simeon, Simeon is trembling at the sight of the "light" while Lucifer admits this is his fear before facing it.

Lucifer is able to finally destroy the boogeyman (and the music when he does is dope as heck) and at last there's peace in Corvo's hotel. Mc is left with Simeon, If you ask what the light is he replies "Not what,Who" before the scene ends, the next book Simeon says the "light" was a sight he hasn't seem in a long time.

My guess,note this is just a guess and a personal opinion, is the light we saw is their Father. It can't be Michael because Simeon had interacted with him before and some of his devilgrams Michael is mentioned.

[monstervari]

LESSON 58 SPOILERS

WHAT WHAAAT WHATTT THE FUCK MY BABY MY LUKE WHATTT

IM 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

[ohbae-me]

WHAT ARE THE BROTHERS FEARS,, and how is ur theory being confirmed

‼️SPOILERS FOR LESSON 58 ‼️

Okokokokk Ammons and Levi's are both Lucifer in his demon form, and they don't go much more into it than that.

Asmo's is seeing himself ugly, he gets very upset when facing it, even if you distract him with a mirror.

Belphies goes all black, and he can't see or find any of his brothers, no one can see or hear him. I'm pretty sure his has to do with how he felt locked up in the attic. It hits him hard because he wasn't expecting this to happen, he thought it would be an alarm clock.

Beel then goes to fight the boogeyman because it upset Belphie so much, and when he's about to use his power, it turns to Belphie in his angel form with the Celestial Realm burning behind him, and Beels power hits Belphie. Beel is devastated, and yelling out even though you try to comfort him, he begs you not to leave him too, but then all his brothers rush in to try and help since they can hear how distraught he is.

This brings about Satan's, who sees Angel Lucifer, who tells Satan that he's just a sad copy of himself and that he can't possibly be his own person, that he'll always be Lucifer's lesser shadow. Real Lucifer pulls him out of that one, telling Satan all the ways they are different and that he's his own person. Satan is then able to beat the Boogeyman.

As the brothers leave, your left with Lucifer and Simeon (and Solomon? I think) and the boogeyman tries to make one last attempt. You just see a beam of light, and Lucifer says this one is "his" even though Simeon is visibly upset. Lucifer quickly banishes it away along with your power. Even after Lucifer leaves, Simeon is left shaking and very upset. He tries to tell you something but is cut off by people calling for you.

Later at a celebration party, you overhear Lucifer and Simeon talking outside, about a figure that appeared that they never expected to see again. I assume is their father? But Simeon says it was really his fear that was seen.

SO in my theory about Simeon feeling exactly how Lucifer felt before he fell, this makes it make much more sense. They both greatly fear their father, or something from the Celestial Realm. Someone about to tell you something important and is cut off. And he says this:

He's doubting himself, the Celestial Realm, his whole way of thinking. I'm super curious to see how the last two lessons play out!!

[vibingandwriting]

(Spoilers for lesson 58 and 16. Read at your own risk)

Usually Obey Me likes to keep things pretty light hearted. Even when Belphie killed us nothing got too angsty. Sometimes this really annoys me, while other times I like that it's not too serious.

Yeah, that all goes out the window at lesson 58. The devs knew they could make me cry and they did. They knew they must have some power over me if I made it all the way to the end of season three and they used it. They have wounded me. Ripped out my heart. I may never recover. I want to pull Satan, Belphie and Beel into a group hug and sob.

[malewifesimeon]

I love him

[obaby-obeyme]

Lesson 58 SPOILERS 

LET’S GOOOOOOO!

Heyo, I didn’t post lesson 57 so if you need a refresher or don’t know what happened in 57, here’s a quick summary:

Barb calls up you and the brothers to help deal with a situation at the hotel. What is this problem you ask? Turns out there’s an “evil spirit” there. How? Turns out it was Mammon and Levi who....accidentally summoned it and accidentally sent it to the hotel. So now everyone has to deal with it. The evil spirit is the boogeyman which takes shape/form of your worst fears. 

And now lesson 58! (I was not expecting to be HURT today)(Also long post ahead!)

_

Solomon using any chance he can get to exploit the brothers 😂

ASMO-😂😂😂

Belphie’s fear (I would be afraid of this too tbh)

oh?

*insert surprise face*

My son is gonna grow up to be someone amazing as he should 😭😭

And now you have to choose someone to go into the room with you to get rid of the spirit. You make eye contact with Asmo first so he is chosen.

Asmo we literally just entered the room

IT’S HERE!

ASMO PLS-

oh my gosh help him😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

HE’S CRYINGGGGG (AND SO AM I)

Yuh....

Next attempt: you make eye contact with Belphie next so he is chosen. He’s reluctant at first but gives in after some teasing from Mammon.

It starts off with the alarm clock (which he mentioned earlier) so you think that’s it. Easy. But then it goes dark:

PLEASE?! WHY?! POOR BELPHIE!!!!!! *UGLY SOBBING*

Beel’s turn! He volunteers because he’s gonna kick some evil spirit ass for messing with his twin!

(He mentions earlier he isn’t sure what he’s afraid of, but that Asmo and Satan are scary when they’re angry)

You harness his power and he bout to throw hands (or magic) with this boogeyman

BUT THEN WE GIT HIT WITH THIS SHIT

Y’ALL.....Y’ALL.....Y’AALLLLLLLLL WTF OBEY ME YA’LL REALLY GONNA MAKE ME CRY ON A GODDAMN WEDNESDAY?!

They all rushed in to help Beel 😭😭😭even though Mammon and Levi’s eyes are closed...😭😭😭

Satan’s like, I’m not afraid of anything I’m gonna take you down evil spirit then boom:

nnot....

Satan destroys it.

Yes THAT THING CAN’T HURT YOU OR ANYONE ELSE ANYMORE 😭

and they go after Mammon and Levi for causing trouble. Leaving you, Luci, and Simeon in the room.

?!

IT’S BACK

G-GOD?!

YES GET EM ZADDY!

ahhh finally we can get over all these test that have caused more than enough trouble

After Luci leaves, Simeon seems a bit off

😭😭😭😭😭

You comfort Simeon by embracing him

PLEAAAAAAAASEEEE LET HIM FINSIH HIS SENTENCE!

We are now full fledged sorcerers! Everyone better watch out!

_

Side story:

who?! God?! Michael?! SOMEONE ELSE?! AJLASKDLADFS!

So if it WAS showing Simeon’s fear and it was God (assuming), their Father and Creator, why would He Simeon’s greatest fear? 

_

Thoughts:

Well with only 2 lessons left and with MC now being a sorcerer, the only thing left is to find out who Simeon has been talking to secretly. I feel like there might be a big reveal in the upcoming lessons. Or Simeon will play a big part to the end of this season. But I just might be overthinking it. With the end of the season being so close, I wonder if we’ll have to say goodbye to the brothers again. Of course, MC can summon them now (just gotta learn summoning magic), I’m thinking......routes? HA! With Obey Me! anything is possible....seriously we never know, the obey me team might make it work somehow. I’m okay with or without it.