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Dragging the pitch perfect girlies to Vance Joy so I can scream you still make sense to me your mess is mine at full volume
#personal#i think that song set me on a life altering path the implications of which truly cannot be conceptualized#:')#ywmulc#nwmm
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Omfg
So I was watching Irrational Treasure again today and I noticed:


Someone please draw Pacifica reacting to that bell.
#gif#bell#pacifica#nwmm spoilers#nwmm#spoilers#gf spoilers#using original tags#gravity falls#2015 tumblr#maydaygirl save our ships#may 2023
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Quick Dipcifica Sketches :yum:
they're having a sleepover :))
+ Some Mabel Content cuz i love her
#gravity falls#dipper pines#pacifica northwest#dipcifica#dipper x pacifica#how do we still feel abt dipcifica after the hype#because im INCREDIBLY late to the hype#but they have been worming their way into my mind again recently#proud dipcifica shipper since the release of NWMM#so call me the OG
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Just sharing my thoughts on Abigail Northwest:
In a fanfiction series I'm working on, I established that the Northwests had a longer history working with Bill, who enabled Nathaniel's rise to power. However, The Book of Bill quite disproved that, and actually had the Shaman banished him from the valley until Ford resummoned him
My personal workaround is that: Nathaniel discovered Bill outside of the Falls. Abigail, who is his granddaughter, caught wind of the Anti-Cipher society and actually joined in as a mole to take down the society
Ofc it might not be the canon intent, but it's an idea I'm going with to explain away stuff that contridicts what I've planned. Personally I prefer Nathaniel having had a relationship with Bill, because it would explain why in his portrayal of Northwest Mansion Mystery, he was a sane guy who is literate and took the lumberjack curse. But Irrational Treasure dismissed him as a town idiot and that he choked to death on a tree bark. (Nathaniel would fail to deliver what Bill wants and thats why he redescended into insanity)
Ooooh that’s a unique way to use Abigale for the story! I wouldn’t have thought to use her like a mole for the society!
Yeah things wouldn’t add up exactly to what TBOB sets up but that’s the fun of fanon anyways! It’s sounds super interesting anyways!
For my own stuff with the Northwests and Bill, I always imagined they set up a deal with Bill too, but that maybe the Northwests had gained knowledge about Bill through shit they stole from the natives that were there and then they started to make offerings to him. And I always think Abigale had just had a terrible coincidence of her family shipping her off to get married to a family who happens to worship the demon triangle she’s had a run in with
#the-orion-scribe#asks#I like the Nathaniel explanation you have too lol it definitely explains the difference form him in irrational treasure to nwmm
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Thoughts on dipcifica?
Not many, tbh! It’s fine and I’ve read some fic for it, but it doesn’t really grab me by the throat the way some other Gravity Falls ships do
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Being a Pacifica Northwest enjoyer is sad because the episode that develops her the most is such a good episode overall that sets up things for the next plot-heavy episodes but the next time she has a significant role it's in the series finale where she's just reverted to a snobby meangirl again as if all that didn't happen.
#I miss my era of thinking about Fiddleford taking in Pacifica and she starts considering the McGuckets as more of a family than her-#-parents.... I should make art for that again#also a nitpick but while I don't mind her development in nwmm coming with dipper the fact that it was intended to be shippy just makes me-#-wish she got that development with mabel instead because up until then pacificas character/development has mostly been bouncing off of her#but eh whatever#gf
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Talking about Gravity Falls with people who haven't finished watching it is hilarious...
So, my best friend is making her mother and sister watch Gravity Falls for the first time, and so, we have to be careful when we're talking that we don't spoil anything. At any rate, I was over at said friends house when they were about up to The Time Traveller's Pig, and I showed my friend a oneshot I had just written, a nice little angst + fluff character study for Pacifica, and we'd kind of forgotten that we weren't spoiling things, and the following exchange occurred:
Me: So, what did you think [of my oneshot]?
Friend: Awww, Pacifica deserves so much better
Friend's sister (who we hadn't realised was listening): PACIFICA DESERVES NOTHING!
Friend's mother (who was quietly knitting in the corner): Pacifica deserves a time-out
My friend and I: *exchange looks* WELL YES BUT ACTUALLY NO YOU'LL SEE PATIENCE MY FRIEND
#update: my friend's sister HAS actually seen nwmm she just forgot about it#how did this happen?#i do not know#friend's mother is also apparently barely paying attention to gravity falls#as parents do when you try to show them shows#so no harm was done#nothing was spoiled#the oneshot was enjoyed#as was the exchange that followed#also these two things can coexist#Pacifica DOES deserve better#but also at that point in the show#absolutely deserved the timeout my friend's mother was proverbially giving her#gravity falls
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In my Relativity Falls au, Dipper ends up having to get the land for his lab from the Northwest’s and thus has to deal with Pacifica a lot. They start off with a very abrasive dynamic that with time becomes more sort of will-they-won’t-they.
Then one day Dipper announces he’s transitioned to Mabel and suddenly Mabel doesn’t hang out with or talk to Pacifica as much, and Mabel seems to have stopped her research so Pacifica doesn’t even has a reason to go over anymore. Only after the Stan Twins show up does Pacifica have reason to interact with Mabel, and comes to kind of enjoy her completely different but endearing personality.
During NWMM, while the Stan Twins deal with a ghost, Pacifica and Mabel have a heart to heart where Pacifica admits part of her misses what she used to have with Mabel - and Mabel can’t help but to shout ‘you had a crush on my brother?!’
Anyway by the end Pacifica has a crush on both of the Pines Twins.
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You made a post saying “it has been zero days since our last alex hirsch hates ford so much bullshit” and i know it was mostly hyperbole, but you have some really good takes that I would love to be elaborated on in terms of how ford is written
it really wasn't hyperbolic. over the years he's just really shown a lot of hatred towards this one character.
content warning: discussion of abuse
i want to start with this clip from the commentary which i think of as a microcosm for how the writers and especially alex think about ford.
transcript:
rob renzetti: i mean he [mcgucket] should've basically knocked ford out, and... and destroyed the... you know, tied him up, and, destroyed... and... alex hirsch, speaking over him: yeah he should've beat ford with a wrench and taken this thing apart piece by piece! he's the one who understood how to built [sic] it, but...
... so that seems like a pretty violent course of action. shall we unpack that?
ford is a character who's pretty explicitly written as a victim of abuse, and who now has c-ptsd as a direct result of the abuse he experienced. alex hirsch believes that ford deserved everything bad that happened to him, that it's ford's own fault, and that he also deserved worse things to happen to him. this is why, given every narrative chance, alex hirsch has piled more suffering onto ford's plate. the biggest example of this i can think of is in the journal, when he wrote that fiddleford was actively erasing ford's memory (despite this being a massive timeline contradiction which i still refuse to accept). because god forbid ford even have one remotely healthy relationship with somebody. that would be too good for him. ford was manipulated and lied to by bill, but alex repeatedly compares him to icarus, a teenager whose demise was the result of his own ignorance. this comparison is still so fucking offensive to me. the sun did not lie to icarus, did not guarantee icarus all of the happiness and success and sense of belonging which he had been denied all his life, did not actively shut out the voices of those around him who would try to help him.
alex in general has a very strange relationship with abuse. he seems to get really upset when people read his characters as victims of abuse. the strongest instance of this is actually not with ford, it's with pacifica - especially in the nwmm episode commentary. the episode says "pacifica's parents have conditioned her to respond to a bell" and alex says people got "the wrong idea" about it. like. dude. what the fuck. you wrote abuse. even if you didn't mean to, that's what you wrote. you can't say people got "the wrong idea" just because you didn't think about the subtext of what you were writing. anyway, back to ford: i believe this extends to him as well. alex wanted to write a character who's a foil to stan and who was a selfish unlikable victim of his own arrogance. however that's not what he wrote. he somehow seemingly accidentally wrote a really compelling and relatable awesome autistic guy who had to fight for every good thing he he ever had in his life only for it to be taken from him every single time. but alex can't let go of seeing ford as just "the opposite of stan". when he talks about "how someone as smart as ford could fall for bill's tricks", he refuses to realize he wrote a situation in which a man was being psychologically manipulated and tortured.
it goes back further, too. people repeatedly theorized that filbrick was... not a very good father, to say the least. on top of the very explicit and canon fact that he threw one of his children out on the street (seriously, there is no defense for this), people pointed out that stan would flinch at filbrick, that ford seemed upset by things filbrick said but dared not talk back, that filbrick was mad at stan not for hurting his brother, but for "costing the family potential millions". but alex can't have people seeing ford as sympathetic. ford can't have it bad like stan did. ford had to have everything and he lost it all because he sucks so much. so he wrote the graphic novel story where ford is filbrick's favorite child and filbrick also is not even a bad parent you guys he's just stoic. ignore the whole thing in dreamscaperers where stan perpetuates the abuse that filbrick did to him. ignore the fact that ford was shouting at stan and then completely shut up as soon as filbrick entered the room and did not say another word for the rest of the night. ignore all that because i just made up this story where he cries at a present from stan. filbrick loved his boys for sure you guys!!!
i'm not even touching on how alex repeatedly villainizes traits commonly associated with mental illness and neurodivergence. ford's hypervigilance becomes arrogance. his passion for knowledge means he's a know-it-all. his difficulty socializing and making friends means he's a misanthrope. his lingering resentment for the way he was raised means he hates his brother and is the worst human being to ever have lived. i could go on, go even further into how the finale reaffirms this, but i feel weird talking about this too much.
#help you unclogged the dam and it all came rushing out#it's been years#didn't know i still had all this in me#apologies for the lack of sources. i reference a lot of old interviews and tweets from 2016-2017#i know insider was one of them but a lot of it was questions he'd be asked at convention panels and off-handed comments from the dvds#seconds before the clip i included alex says ford's great flaw is pride#as though it was his pride that led to the world ending#and not a millenium-old plan by a monster using advanced manipulation tactics supplemented with literal mind control#tales of the wild zeep#1009#gravity falls#ford#gf metanalysis#alex hirsch
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Some Little Dipper AU headcanons 🩷
(design is by @dontmixpaintinyourcoffee)

1: In the Inconveniencing, Mabel ends up getting genuinely pissed off when the teenagers make fun of Dipper for being a “baby”. Like, she knows he’s a sweet baby boy but the way they say it is way too condescending. She realizes she’s had enough. She goes off on everyone (except Wendy) before grabbing Dipper’s arm and telling him they’re leaving. Dipper refuses to leave and snaps, telling her she’s always doing this to him and that he’s not her baby brother anymore. He rips his arm away from her and lays down, summoning the ghosts. He ends up saving her in the end though, but he never apologizes.
2: Pacifica is still 12 in this AU but she sees Mabel as her rival because of her beauty. Mabel just sees the kid as a sweet admirer and is always super friendly with her as if she were a celebrity and Pacifica was her #1 fan. Pacifica thinks her kindness is sarcastic and hates it. She learns to reciprocate it after NWMM, though. Mabel and Pacifica have kind of a big sister/little sister relationship.
3: Instead of Mabel being obsessed with boys, boys are obsessed with her because she’s nice and pretty. Dipper has to deal with boys coming to the shack to flirt with his sister, and Stan eventually gets them out with The Broom. Gideon is one of these boys, but he’s still 10 here so all his romance attempts are just laughable. Mabel doesn’t take him seriously and that leads him to do drastic things to earn her love.
4: Dreamscapers is about Dipper, Soos, and Stan going into Mabel’s mind. That is where Dipper learns about Mabel’s childhood. From the day he was born all the way to now. He feels pretty guilty for praising her childhood “maturity”, now knowing she never asked to raise a baby at 3 years old. Stan also shows that he genuinely cares for Dipper in this episode by giving him a pep talk after he and Dipper see a not-so fun memory. When they’re back in the real world, Dipper begins to slowly slip back into his childhood habits, learning that if he wants to be mature, he should learn how to be himself first. That means accepting all the things that make him Dipper Pines, even the embarrassing ones.
#gravity falls#gravity falls au#mabel pines#dipper pines#stan pines#gideon gleeful#pacifica northwest#wendy corduroy#<- mentioned#headcanons#little dipper au
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Dipper and Pacifica’s hate relationship before NWMM was so funny.
Like, it’s funny how the plot never considered them as a couple or anything. Or how, even though he already knew Gideon, he though Pacifica was the worst.
They interacted so little and already had such a negative opinion on one another XD
Yeeeeep nobody even fucking considered shipping them until that ep I bet. And then suddenly they were nice to each other for a Single episode and welp. Here we are.
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When your bestie isn't on Tumblr today bc she's busy, it is your job to text her pics of cats booping each other
#personal#waiting for mo to return from war LITERALLY like the woman staring out the window#sigh#nwmm#for mo#sends an unwanted hug into the void for my beloved
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Pacifica Northwest is so misunderstood in the fandom AND show and I hope you all understand how passionate and infuriated this makes me.
I BEG Gravity Falls fans to actually read Platinum Paz (on the website) because I have barely seen anybody talk about it. You have the right to call this a stretch but I'd say Pacifica is one of the most complicated and interesting GF characters ever. If people could just see her more than just the mean girl who gets a redemption arc I'd love it SO much. (Pasting a rant I made ages ago about Paz + some edits now since I've ranted so much about her I feel like I'm repeating myself)
I'm genuinely so upset that Pacifica isnt more of a popular character since all the fandom cares abt is the old men of the series. she's such a complex character, especially now that we have platinum paz and Pacifica's dream where SO MUCH was revealed abt her and what she's gone through. We know she holds way more guilt than what we originally thought she had, and holds guilt for things SHE DIDN'T EVEN DO, HER FAMILY DID. She believes that everything she does should be rightfully earned, in an unhealthy way. She has chronic insomnia. Her parents fight a LOT, and she hides from them. She has no proper social skills due to basically being isolated from doing anything that a normal kid does. Her parents force her to get up so early and stay up so late, and comply with unrealistic beauty standards as a TWELVE YEAR OLD, and even when she was younger. The fact her parents only use her as a prop is so messed up, ppl say she's a 'spoilt brat' when yeah, she gets things easily with money, but she's also being constantly ordered to do things by her parents, and PHYSICALLY REACTS when she tries to disobey her parents in NWMM, because she's so absolutely terrified of them. THEY USE A BELL TO ORDER HER AROUND. SHE HAS A PHYSICAL REACTION TO IT. The one thing I can't forgive Alex Hirsch for is saying her parents aren't abusive bc goddamn they quite literally are by definition incredibly emotionally abusive. She doesn't have a proper connection with her parents, or ANYONE for that matter, she's so detached from everyone because she was never taught to maintain relationships. We even see this in the show, with Sergei, where she doesn't see him as a proper person because SHE DOESN'T UNDERSTAND PEOPLE ok she would be besties with ZANE JULIEN listen..
#NOBODY GETS HER LIKE I DO#pacifica northwest#gravity falls#pacifica gravity falls#gravity falls rant#platinum paz#thisisnotawebsitedotcom#zane julien#he was briefly mentioned but idc#PACIFICA NORTHWEST NUMBER ONE FAN#ugh..
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robie od 18 fasta, nawet nwm ile dzisiaj zjadlam bo wpierdolilam chyba z 3 kawalki karpatki+obkad u babci+galaretka+sniadanie w domu🤢🤮 Wiec robie od 18 fasta tylko nwm do kiedy ale mysle ze zrobie do czwartku moze, chociaż nie wiem bo moja samokontrola nie kontroluje. Wgl ide w sobote na mecz siatkówki Olsztyn vs Katowice(Olsztyn górą😝) i chyba kupuje bluze ale jeszcze nwmm. Wezcie mn w kom zwyzywajcie bo na mn tylko meanspo dziala
Chudej nocy motylki🦋
#az do kosci#chce byc lekka jak motylek#chce widziec swoje kosci#chudzinka#blogi motylkowe#lekkie motylki#chude jest piękne#motylki any#chudej nocy motylki#@na blog
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Hi!
I just wanted to let you know that I think your art style is beautiful, and it always makes my day better when I see you post something because it's just so unique!
May I ask you about your thoughts on Dipcificia (I hope I'm spelling that right), and their relationship and what their favorite things might be about each other? By the way, have you heard of Over the Garden Wall? (cuz smoetimes people make otgw and gravity falls related posts). I didn't really want to waste your time and I apologise if I did, that was not my intention :) and I hope you have a wonderful day/night!
Hi! Aw man thank you so much!
Oh I have too many thoughts about them—I’m on like a lunch break rn so I might not have much time to speak how much I want on them buuuuut I do have a relationship meme I did a while back that I can post here and explain a bit!

So, here’s the thing, I think depending on the situation/AU/whatever they might have some different things in their dynamic, but I think overall a key feature to their relationship in any setting is that there needs to be banter!
Pacifica likes that Dipper is just as sassy as she is and isn’t afraid to call her out while still having that support system she needs, and just being someone she knows likes her for her and not her money or status.
Dipper likes that Pacifica despite the haughty toity stuff and bratty exterior is a real and witty person who can be brave and cares about people (even if it’s deep down) and bc she has these nuances and isn’t an ideal like he’d made for Wendy in his head, he can actually talk to her and have a good relationship.
Ok now this one is gonna veer more into headcanons but these first two are supported by canon so! I think Dipper enjoyed heavily the fact Pacifica is secretly nerdy, or at least nerdy without realizing. Canonically Pacifica is like, level 100 at some overwatch/warcraft hybrid that I’m convinced is the GF equivalent of League of Legends, and I have a heavy headcanon that Pacifica is so naturally good at numbers and shit like the reason she’s so good at minigolf is just like she sees the angles. Which is funny to be good at geometry when your series’ big evil dude is a triangle. Also Abigale Northwest reference of her being a tinkerer/engineer. I think Pacifica would decimate him in video games or any games in general and Dipper would be both parts competitively upset and genuinely impressed.
And theeennnn this is also backed by canon: I think Dipper is secretly a huuuuge romantic, liek does all the sweet shit type of romantic. I mean we’ve seen his elaborate Wendy plots, and I think it just makes sense for a guy who likes to plan to plan romantic stuff. And maybe he’d also like for someone to do stuff like that for him in return! He might not admit it but everyone picks up on it real quick I think. Pacifica is both surprised and endeared, if not used to it since she comes from a home that doesn’t really express affection. I don’t think she’s ever had anyone actually say they love her, and then here comes Mr. 12 step date plan. I think it just makes her fall even more!
Let’s see, I also think Pacifica falls first, Dipper falls harder. Paz got a crush at the end of NWMM, Dipper would finally realize he liked her like maybe the next summer or so, but by that point Pacifica has resigned herself to having a crush she will never speak of ever bc it’s embarrassing and also she has no clue how to give and receive affection. She’s still learning! I think it differs based on the situation but for post series canon, I’d like to think they started dating/long distancing like first or second year of high school and ended up being high school sweethearts. Bc I think it’s cute!
Let’s see what else…uh Dipper confesses first, Pacifica was his first kiss but Pacifica’s first kiss was when she was younger with some snooty boy and it was unwanted and she cried bc he was being an asshole who took it from her, and her parents didn’t give af. Typical. They both start arguments, though Dipper apologizes first only BARELY. They’re both equally stubborn. Pacifica will apologize if she knows it’s her in the wrong (like idk saying please thank you and sorry) but if it’s a real, both sides hurt and got hurt, type of argument, Pacifica edges out in the “how stubborn can I be” race. And then Paz brings up the past more bc it’s the most she can reference with her sheltered upbringing, and Dipper talks more bc Pacifica is genuinely interested in his interests even if she doesn’t outright admit it sometimes but also I think Pacifica tends to have gotten used to not talking as much unless it’s to judge so she’s got a lot of shit to unlearn, so she just reacts to being spoken to more than starting the convo, if that makes sense. And then Pacifica is more sacrificial bc I do think Dipper is super giving and definitely protective (they both are but Dipper more so since he’s just canonically like that) but I think Pacifica is more the type to sacrifice way more than she can give if it means doing what’s right. Even if she hates it lol. (The bell, idk wtf happened with her there but she’s genuinely scared out of her mind about that bell and yet she’s willing to risk it all!)
Ok and then lastly! I have seen OTGW! I love that show! It’s really well animated and the storyline is sweet!
And thank you, I hope you have a wonderful night too!
#anon#asks#Dipcifica#tagging since I basically word vomited a ton about them and I have that relationship meme#my art#doodles
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I do wonder if Blind Eyes also affected the Mayor as well or not. I'm not sure how effective he was as a mayor considering his appearance in NWMM and DD&MD - at least for the last thirty years. If you're willing to count The Stanchruian Candidate as a canon, that may be able to explain his lackluster history on TV, as you can imagine majority of memories/records may have been affected by Blind Eyes as well.
Then, it can be extended to this question; Besides McGucket and Blind Eyes members, who have been affected by the memory wipe the most? My friend suggested that Blind Eyes can explain Blubs and Durland being ineffective as police. He also explained that polices were probably called several times for town anomalies, making their memories being wiped out more frequently than others.
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