#nosferatu og

[kazz-brekker]

in dracula there is a cowboy and the female lead lives. in nosferatu there is no cowboy and the female lead dies. ergo, the existence of a cowboy is highly important for the survival of the female lead in a gothic vampire story.

[pirate-cashoo]

“You are my affliction”

[avpol]

Ellen

[the-crooked-library]

The intimacy is important to show the contrast between Thomas and Orlok in the movie. Thomas repeatedly fails throughout the movie. He fails communication and understanding test with Ellen, he fails self-imposed masculinity test in general, he fails sex and intimacy test with Ellen. He even fails fully acceptance and full love test with Ellen because till the end he expects that Ellen can be somehow cured from her powers, and killing Orlok should do the trick, meaning he’s incapable of just accept her fully the way she’s without trying to correct it. The part that Ellen was happy for awhile with Thomas because for that time her powers were blocked is a big giveaway, that it’s already in fact wasn’t working between them from the start because if she could only be happy with him while suppressing huge part of herself, then such foundation was bound to crumble. Orlok meanwhile fulfilled the crucial basics for Ellen - understanding and acceptance of her nature and powers in full, intimacy and sexual realisation the way Ellen wished and imagined.

yessss exactly - as much as I do like Thomas as a character, and as much as he might care for Ellen, he's not a good fit for her, and she knows this!.. She wants, desperately, the sort of emotional connection that he will never be able to give without first unpacking the prejudices and insecurities that instruct his entire life and his opinion of her; and while that is not impossible, it is still quite unrealistic, given his background and societal context.

The reason Orlok is able to think outside those bounds, despite also being a man from an even older society, is because he exists in opposition to its restrictions. His attitudes are not reflective of whatever people around him would've thought of women or queerness or neurodivergence when he was alive; they are, however, directly informed by his making "covenant with the devil." Unlike the proper, god-fearing, Rational people that dictate Ellen's daily life, he accepts and desires every aspect of her that is considered "sinful" - her sexuality, her lack of deference, her eccentricities; and it is this fundamental understanding that she craves.

TL;DR -

"you could never satisfy me the way he does" was about emotional connection, not sex - and, of course, Thomas went straight ahead and proved her right

a relationship that is blocking her powers and allows her to be "happy" as long as she acts normal and hides her real self is not a good relationship. regardless of how one may interpret her connection with Orlok, Ellen's marriage to Thomas is an allegory for being in the closet/masking - and I personally think she deserves better

[farmlesbians]

must a dracula / nosferatu adaptation present something new and revolutionary to the story… is it not enough to look gorgeous and haunting on Big Screen

[dream-of-the-bitchless]

I am an appetite. Nothing more

Nosferatu (2024) — Robert Eggers

[alittlecartoonie]

doodle nosfuratu >:3

deleted scene from that one spongebob episode

[sparvverius]

okay my actual nosferatu 2024 thoughts:

i was a bit apprehensive based on the trailer and the marketing that it would be the classic dracula interpretation--the main character is sexually repressed by victorian norms, her husband, her friends, etc, and then finds sexual liberation in the vampire. which, to be clear, is a perfectly fine story, but i've always felt that dracula is not the right vampire story to adapt for this, given that vampiric assaults in dracula are, imo, pretty undeniably framed as sexual violations. no shade to those who can, but when watching those adaptations i can't get over thinking like, that's her allegorical rapist :/

in the first part of the movie it seemed that that might be where the story is headed--we see that ellen's husband thomas is dismissive of her fears and her memories of her assault that come to her as dreams. and a bit neglectful of her emotional and sexual needs. there's no doubt that his dismissiveness, at the least, is out of misogyny, since we see that behavior reflected in his more misogynistic friend, who is the sort of wealthy, successful man that thomas aspires to be. his neglect comes from this desire for success.

but that changes after his experience at orlok's castle. when orlok drinks his blood, especially the first time, it's shot and acted as a rape. he has ptsd about it, too, at one point confusing ellen for orlok as she tries to hold him in bed and begging her to get off him. later, when orlok is denigrating thomas to ellen, trying to prove that he's not man enough to fuck her like orlok could, he says something like "he swooned away like a woman." thomas is emasculated by being raped, he's now, like ellen was, the woman who was too weak to resist orlok's insistent masculine sexuality.

the narrative doesn't take this "feminization" as a bad thing--on the contrary, sharing the same experience of victimization as his wife--at the hands of the same monster--drives them closer, and he refuses to think of her as "unclean." he becomes at this point the jonathan harker sort who listens to his wife about her experiences and doesn't blame her for them, or even for the part of her that felt pleasure at it--because that, too, he understands.

anyway it's cool that an adaptation of an already somewhat loose adaptation manages to be more on-theme for the actual original dracula than most direct dracula adaptions. down to the moustache

[kavalyera]

tbh vtmb2 would have been better if it WASNT a quote on quote successor to bloodlines. idk. it just doesn’t have the same level as cunt as bloodlines. it looks more action based which would be cool if it wasn’t a sequel to an amazing rpg. i think a bloodlines 2 set in seattle would be amazing if it wasn’t what’s being teased

[beguilingcorpse]

like on a genuine level this is maybe the most condescending post i have ever seen. literally it’s like

[fandom-cosplay215]

Saw Nosferatu and 0/10 he did not tiptoe through London carrying his own coffin around.

[jaggedcliffs]

I had been watching the original 1922 Nosferatu on youtube over the past week (with no intention of seeing the new one, I was just curious since I'd never seen it, only Shadow of the Vampire) when a friend texted me to see if I wanted to see Eggers' 2024 remake on Friday.

with the 1922 version fresh in my mind and having read/listened to Dracula about five times by now, I can confidently say that Eggers' version is half 1922 Nosferatu adaptation, half novel Dracula adaptation, with a splash of The Exorcist and firm rebuke against Coppola's shitty Drac/Mina's "romance."

and it is still by far the best Dracula adaptation out there

[davidmonster]

I definitely do not have a type... Nope... Not at all.......

[pickle-draws]

I just think it's neat that the door to the rectory is the same shape as the iconic Nosferatu door.

[neve-gallus-girl-detective]

Just saw Nosferatu and I have so many thoughts on its success as a piece of classic gothic literature, the nature of its adaptation, and the choices made to provide agency to female characters in a genre famous for stripping agency from female (and male) characters.

Overall? 10/10

[imsoglitter]

#notmynosferatu