#nico: so Piper what are you?
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Rick making Piper just queer has to be my favorite things he’s ever done. Her wondering if she’s a lesbian, if she’s bi, if she’s pan. If she’ll ever be attracted to a guy again or if it was comphet all along. What it means to like Shel and to have liked Jason, if it means anything at all.
A lot of people (including myself) were hoping to get a confirmation sexuality. I’m pretty sure half the fandom was split between lesbian and bisexual Piper. But her experience of not knowing and just being queer is a very valid and real experience that a lot of people face.
Not everyone feels like they fit under one term. And I think it’s realistic that Piper, a girl who previously thought she’d only ever really be attracted to guys, isn’t really sure about who she is. And I like that he decided to have her figure it out as she goes, which isn’t something I think you see a lot in media.
#nico: so Piper what are you?#piper: *shrugs*#she’s so real#i feel like a lot of people go through the idk phase#I know I did#and I’m still no 100% sure#so I think this was nice#anyway#if you know any lesbian and bi Piper truthers go give them a hug#they didn’t lose but they didn’t win either#percy jackon and the olympians#pjo series#pjo hoo toa#heroes of olympus#tsats#pjo tsats#the sun and the star#piper mclean
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piper: what’s a cute little thing that belongs to your partner and whenever you see it, it just reminds you that they’re yours
will, softly smiling: nico’s playing cards
nico: *trying not to blush*
leo: calypso’s threads. it comforts me to see them sitting on my table
calypso: *looking at him lovingly*
hazel, with heart eyes: frank’s bow. i always think of how handsome he looks when he shoots it
frank: *giving her heart eyes*
percy: annabeth’s fucking mile-long blonde hairs that i pull out of my buttcrack in the shower
annabeth: *evil cackling across the room*
#can you tell which ones have been together the longest?#they’re basically a married couple#also if you don’t know what i’m talking about with the hair#you must not have long hair or be with someone with long hair…#i love the thought of the other couples being so romantic and sweet and percabeth just being menaces#i love them lol#percy jackson#annabeth chase#percabeth#piper mclean#will solace#nico di angelo#solangelo#frank zhang#hazel levesque#frazel#leo valdez#calypso#caleo#pjo#heroes of olympus#percy jackson and the olympians#rick riordan#riordanverse#incorrect quotes#pjo incorrect quotes
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The fandom's bias and tendency to wanting to agressively associate EVERYTHING with Percy and getting upset when a character isn't associated with him really taints their view on actually significant relationships, and it ruins Percy's canon character tbh.
I came across a video edit appreciating Jason and Nico's friendship, and the comments were just filled with people raging on how Percy should've been included instead of Jason because he was "much closer friends" to Nico than Jason was. It's appalling how much ppl can turn to a blind eye when it comes to Jason.
People hate Jason SO much in this fandom that they literally refuse to admit that Nico canonically considered Jason as his first ever friend, not Percy (this is literally said in Tower of Nero, by the way)
You guys are seriously so hell bent on wanting to take away every little thing jason had that makes his character meaningful, simple to give it to percy when it isn't even necessary. Doesn't percy have enough good characterization already? Why deprive Nico of a genuinely good friendship? Jason spent time and effort to make Nico comfortable and succeeded in earning nicos trust. He taught nico to never push people away and not to be ashamed of being himself, Isn't that beautiful? Why do people get salty abt that so much? Because of course, it's about appreciating Jason for once, and not Percy, isn't that it?
My perspective on Percy and Nico is that, they were never really "close" to begin with and never ended up being close either, and that's okay. Percy tried his very best to be a brother to Nico, but they somehow always had tension with eachother because of Nico's internal turmoil of idolizing and crushing on Percy whilst simultaneously associating him with Bianca.
Sure, they talked it out a little in the end, but I'd like to think that some tension would always be there, because they started off at the wrong foot, and there was too much bitterness and resentment to come in their dynamic. And them never actually being close "brothers" makes their dynamic very significant and authentic. In the end, Nico acknowledged that Percy was a good person, and I like to think that's the farthest they've ever gone in their dynamic. They both are on amicable terms but the awkwardness still being there is very realistic, the weight of Bianca's death would always be associated with Percy to Nico, and it's neither of their faults. That adds SO much to their angsty dynamic, why get so upset about it when it's such an integral, and meaningful part of the story? Nico and Percy not being close friends shows how complex character relationships can be.
Percy doesn't have to be close with everyone just because he's the main character, it really deprives him of actually meaningful connections. The fandom forcing him to be buddy buddy with everyone simply because they HAVE to associate Percy with anyone and everyone, and getting angry that Jason is closer to Nico than Percy is, is just really weird.
Why do people feel SO threatened about Jason all the time that they have to get all defensive and suppress his connections by dragging Percy into videos that doesn't even have to do anything with him? I swear y'all are creating this whole Jason/Percy rivalry thing because you cannot bear to see someone rival Percy, and you want Percy to be the only powerful/good person in the books.
Let other characters befriend eachother without trying to insert Percy in there all the time.
Percy and Nico would never be like Reyna and Nico, or Jason and Nico, and that's completely fine. I like them better that way. You can't be best friends with everyone. That's just how life works.
#I hope people don't come at me for this#Some parts of the Percy fanbase can be scarily defensive and aggressive so I won't be surprised if I get mean comments abt this lol#but I said what I said idc. Jason is canonically Nico's closest friend. You hating jason isn't going to change the fact that it's canon.#There's literally nothing wrong with Percy not being best friends with Nico why do ppl act like it's a bad thing.#You can agree or disagree with me but pls be respectful#pjo#pjo fandom#percy jackson#jason grace#pjo hoo#pjo series#pjo hoo toa#annabeth chase#piper mclean#leo valdez#frank zhang#hazel levesque#nico di angelo#reyna avila ramirez arellano#reyna ramirez arellano#heroes of olympus
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I'm gonna froth at the mouth over this in the tags so bear with me but reason #1278038 why the way rick went about breaking up jiper was bad: rereading her povs in hoo where she gushes over jason feels like even more of an unreliable narrator queer girl comphet psychological horror story
#it's not that that isn't interesting (it's fascinating actually. especially for a daughter of aphrodite!!!)#it's that it Obviously wasn't his og intention. the ending of hoo is clearly intended to give a positive impression of jiper#this is worsened because shelper is wildly underdeveloped so it's like Dude what did you even do this for#literally just an afterthought. a footnote really. he said “ok here's your canon sapphic rep pls stop shipping theyna now” /j#she was a main character in one of the main couples in hoo it's so crazy? how can that happen. he would never do this to percabeth#can you imagine if percabeth broke up offscreen and 2 months later annabeth was with some complete rando and then percy died. girl what#it's the kind of setup/payoff issue that is difficult to put into words because he set up something (jiper and all its complex morality)#to ultimately be good because they're making the choice to love each other in the end (poorly executed but whatever I don't hate it)#and then in toa????? he just obliterates them for no payoff and creates a new impression of the most literal case of comphet imaginable? wh#toa is my absolute least favorite sorry#marginally related but if we can Be. Chill. and acknowledge that he originally wrote nico as crushing on annabeth#(we can argue all day about how Definite the crush was but come on. he did not put percy's speculation of it in there for no reason)#(and he obviously did not plan for nico to be gay back then you will literally never convince me of this)#(representation was NOT on his mind in the first 5 books that's why the cast is almost completely white except charles and ethan)#(the disposable poc who die tragically btw)#then I see a similarly confusing debacle but like. in the opposite way#something something sexuality is fluid you can be gay and feel confused about how u used to have a het crush but are still gay#nico says so himself to piper which is hilarious#it's just the lack of consistency and poor planning that I hate........... it is a ginormous pet peeve of mine and it's All Over His Books#piper already reads as having so much growing to do regarding her gender and sexuality because Somebody#(the man writing her) littered her pov with internalized misogyny/anti hyperfemininity and went nowhere with it#rr crit#percy jackson and the olympians#piper mclean#jason grace#pjo hoo toa#anti jiper#<- I PROMISE I am not actually anti-jiper I am very neutral about it as I am with all jason ships. they had cute moments#tagging that just in case#this comes from a place of deep love for the franchise and it's characters btw I have been a fan since I was 8
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Some rules are meant to be broken.
(Mortals not shown bc they are hiding in Apollo's broom closet: Reyna, Thalia, Lavinia, Shel, Austin, Jerry, Yan, Gracie, Georgie, Jo, Emmie, Leo, Calypso, Percy, Annabeth, Sally, Paul, Lu, Coach Hedge, Mellie, Paolo, Sssssarah, Lityerses, Hunter, and Olujime)
#Listen sometimes you wanna have fun little parties with your friends and they all just happen to be mortal#what's so wrong about that?#trials of apollo#apollart#toa apollo#lester papadopoulos#pjo athena#meg mccaffrey#piper mclean#rachel elizabeth dare#grover underwood#nico di angelo#will solace#hazel levasque#frank zhang#kayla knowles#also I cannot get a post-toa design down for Apollo so just assume he's shapeshifting or smth idk#I like this one tho I might keep it
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finally finished my project of collecting voiceclaims that are as close as i can find for my hcs of the main HoO cast - just for funsies so it's not as perfect as I'd like but whatever, it was a neat exploration and exercise of me trying to think of literally any franchise for voice actors.
Leo got two cause I had trouble of finding good clips for the voiceclaim that's closers to my hcs for him (the second half of his section). Also got to play the fun game of digging through my art for decent doodles of each character.
Also fun fact, I am almost completely unfamiliar with 3 franchises in this video and was just digging for voice clips on youtube. Try to guess which ones.
#pjo#percy jackson#riordanverse#video#headcanon#headcanons#my art#jason also gets two but theyre the same so it doesnt count. and its mostly just cause silly. i had to.#and before anyone asks - ''is that Scaramouche's VA with Leo-?'' yes but i have zero genshin knowledge#and the voice he does for Scaramouche isnt quite what i have in mind for Leo#also 2nd fun fact i briefly considered Vash for Jason but then i realized. same VA as Lio#as hilarious as it would be to have Jason and Nico share a VA voiceclaim i will refrain#Piper's is a bit higher than i'd like but Michiru definitely has the right energy for what i imagine for her#when her voice dips lower that's a lot closer to what i imagine. the energy is close enough though that im fine with the pitch difference#Percy's is very amusing to me. like yeah no Percy has Haru energy. that works out great#normal Haru or abridged Haru? you decide#that is genuinely SUPER close to how i picture his voice though. everyone forgets Percy is a lil monotone and intimidating sometimes#let him be quiet and brooding but his internal monologue is just ''LIFE IS LIKE A HURRICANE~ HERE IN~ DUCKBURG~''#the voicelines in general are also just. so Percy. its so perfect im so pleased with that one#anyways. throws this into the ether#i might remake this if i can find closer voices - feel free to throw suggestions at me#also might try to make one for other characters if i can find good voiceclaims for them
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY @darlingjunebug 💙💙💙
Here's some pjo edits(would've done the untamed, but I don't know anything about it lol)
Nicercy bonus 💙🖤
#happy birthday bestie#I love you mwah#and I hope this makes you laugh#pjo/hoo#pjo#percy jackson#nico di angelo#percico#nicercy#thalia grace#piper mclean#percy jackon and the olympians#heroes of olympus#leo valdez#rachel elizabeth dare#grover underwood#what in the queue#i have no idea if I'm gonna be awake when this posts so
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Chiron: so, how are the kids?
Coach Hedge: well, Piper had been living on one packet of Cheetos and 58 red bulls for the last week, Frank keeps using windows as doors, Nico is plotting Jason's murder because he ate the last poptart, I caught Percy and Annabeth almost two feet too close to eachother, Reyna tried to throw Leo of Argo 2 more then once because he called her RARA, and my fucking tv stopped working!
Chiron, very tired: well that sounds great.
Chiron: wait… what about Hazel?
Coach Hedge: oh, Hazel is great, she's in her room learning how to knit.
#that's what happens when you put nine teenagers on one ship#Nico is plotting murder because of a poptart makes so much sence#Percy accidentally fall and annabeth had to catch him#coach hedge#pjo fandom#percy pjo#annabeth chase#percy jackson#camp half blood#chiron#piper mclean#frank zhang#jason grace#percybeth#hazel levesque#nico di angelo#reyna avila ramirez arellano#RARA
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I think PJO and the sequels would have been much better without the focus on romance(including Percabeth and Solangelo)
#I’m not even into fanon ships#I just feel like romance kills the vibe#They can get together at the very end so we know who ends up with who if needs be#Like what happened with Piper#pjo#hoo#percy jackson#Post#Nico can still be gay if he doesn’t have a bf you guys
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Leo: Rules are made to be broken!
Jason: No, they are made to be followed. Nothing is made to be broken.
Piper: Glow sticks.
Thalia: Pinatas.
Percy: Karate Boards.
Grover: Kit Kats.
Frank: The tape on a finish line.
Hazel: Break away glass.
Annabeth: Promises.
Reyna: Hearts.
Nico: Bones.
Jason: ...
Jason: Well that escalated quickly.....
#Annabeths one kinda hurts now that i thnk about it#“Family luke you promised”#this things is so old idk what to put as a source#i just put my own twist on it#percy jackson#annabeth chase#nico di angelo#jason grace#hazel levesque#reyna avila ramirez arellano#piper mclean#frank zhang#thalia grace#grover underwood#percy jackson and the olympians#heros of olympus#trials of apollo#pjo hoo toa
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idk if this is any good but 🤭🤭
“what’s wrong with being a demon?”
"Well, there's nothing wrong with it, necessarily, it's just basic —,"
"Basic? I'm basic? Nico, you're literally wearing a ghost costume. You're a pale, emo boy wearing a ghost costume, I don't want to hear it —,"
Nick scowls and flips Piper off, decidedly not listening. He doesn't have the time or energy to argue with somebody about the relevance of spirits not only in Halloween and culture, but also in general, to somebody who's wearing gray makeup and an almost two hundred dollar ripped dress.
Piper finishes up tying his hair into a ponytail, only because he doesn't have the hands to do it himself as he's carrying her blood-stained converse, and definitely not because she has eight hundred makeup and skin products and her hands are incredibly soft.
"Is Will meeting us there?" She asks, stepping back and checking out her handiwork.
"Yeah, last I heard, with Shel."
She looks at him a minute before grinning and waggling her eyebrows. She does this everytime — Nico can't help but appreciate it. There was, admittedly, a lot of baggage that came with being a gay Catholic from the 40's; finally having a support system was nice. And maybe he knew, before, that camp would accept him, and he knew well that about two thirds of the damn call was queer itself, but it was also different, having Piper here, who didn't give a shit about anyone's opinion and was loud and proud about being out. Especially considering her own journey to get to that point.
"Shut up, cagna," he says, shoving her away and turning so she doesn't see his own grin.
She laughs.
#thank u so much!!!!#it's not halloween but like. what if they wanted to go to pride w ghoul costumes 🤨🤨🤨#inkneewayz this was fun tyy!#f: pjo#writing#pjo#heroes of olympus#percy jackson and the heroes of olympus#trials of apollo#the sun and the star#shelper#shel#piper mclean#nico di angelo#solangelo#my writing#mail mail you have mail
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so, i love and vibe w bi leo, it’s so good
however
something just hits different with gay leo who’s been performing heterosexuality for years
#heroes of olympus#leo valdez#like i could write a whole essay on this (not rlly but also yes rlly)#like lil him somehow getting in his head that you have to find someone who likes you and then you’ll grow to love them#and that all guys just think girls are pretty but don’t like them beyond that until they get to know them#and he doesn’t get to explore feelings for girls bc nobody shows interest in him and he keeps like running away from home#and then he meets fake memory jason and something just clicks#but he assumes it’s just bc they mesh rlly well#but then he has the classic italicized oh moment#but he just thinks he’s seeing why girls like jason so much#and so he ignores it and tries to get a gf. bc surely if he flirts w pretty girls he’ll find one who likes him right?#and once he finds a girl who actually likes him then he’ll fall for her and know what all those guys w gfs are on abt#but also mans probably has some catholic guilt n internalized homophobia n shit#bc yknow his aunt calling him a demon/devil (i forgot which it was)#i can imagine him and nico bonding over this and falling for heroes#and he’s SHOCKED when pipes is talking abt what she loves abt women after she comes out#and he’s like ‘wait what???? I’ve never thought that way abt girls ever. you don’t just like them bc they’re objectively pretty????’#and then they have a long convo abt sexuality#and he has a realization that the way piper feels abt women is the way he feels about men (but mainly jason)#maybe he’s also aspec? I could see him being demi and only liking someone after getting a connection w them#valgrace#man now i wanna write a leo sexuality crisis fic#but i got so many fics i wanna write… the main one being a revival fic bc the boys deserve to be happy#but also i need more valgrace fics… and you should be the change you wanna see in the world#as someone who’s arospec i’m just projecting onto him but with a different flavor
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Just posting this for the ppl who LOVE to push the FANON narrative that Jason and Percy aren't close friends as CANON. Grover is listed as Percy's main best friend (along with Annabeth ofc but she remains in the girlfriend category) and Jason comes literally SECOND in the Official Riordan wiki fanpage, and he's even labelled as "one of percy's best friends" not just "friend" or "close friend" like the others.
I don't get why people deny this SO bad like- pls let the almost nonexistent rivalry they both had (which is mostly between Jason and Percy fans) stay fanon.
"Jason and Percy are just co workers, barely even friends" Yup. Sure. I was so mislead by this narrative before I picked up HOO and was pleasantly surprised by how genuine percy and jason's friendship was in the books.. I half expected them both to ignore eachother or something throughout the scenes with how much the fandom exaggerated their rivalry/coldness with eachother.
Fanon is awesome. But it's not when you push it as canon. Let them be two seperate things please.
#Also with the whole “Leo and Percy are much closer than Jason and Percy” narrative is pretty popular aswell simply bc they're both goofy.#Leo and Percy are GOOD friends but claiming that they were closer than Jason/Percy is just wishful thinking at best imo.#Leo had resented percy up until boo (which is neither of their faults. Mind you)#They made up. But it wasn't enough for them to become like best buddy buddies. Leo went missing before that.#So they didn't have the opportunity to bond as well.#And that's OKAY. We always have fanon to enjoy.#I just wish people stop mixing fanon and canon together and claim it as fully canon.#It could be a tad misleading. And ppl would be disappointed that the same fanon isnt incorporated into the books.#I was subjected to so much fanon influence before I picked up hoo. The leo/percy 'best friend' agenda was one of them.#the best friend agenda in the books was not matching the same energy as it did when pjo fans described it. So It was heavily underwhelming.#I honestly hope these tags don't offend anyone (esp Leo/Percy best friend enthusiasts)#Im merely pointing out what I observed from the books vs the fandom's exaggeration#but they were not as cln#pjo#pjo fandom#percy jackson#pjo hoo#jason grace#pjo series#annabeth chase#pjo hoo toa#leo valdez#piper mclean#frank zhang#hazel levesque#nico di angelo
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Som I'm listening to "We will stand for everfree" from mlp equestria girls(don't ask why) and the song kind of makes me think of what would happen if during the roman invasion in HOO an all out war broke out because of it. Like if Gaia hadn't even woken up and the giants all defeated obviously , then i think the greeks would have probably won. They might not have the numbers but many of them have experience in fighting armies way bigger than theirs and this time the enemy/invading forces don't have a bunch of titans/immortals on their side, they are literally fighting in the greeks home turf and i don't remember the books mentioning the campers taking down any defences from SOM and BOTL so there's that too. If it were to happen i like to think that Percy would side with CHB because he knows them personally he grew and fought along side them for years, he only knew the romans for like 3 days and most that time they didn't trust him. He doesn't have the same with the romans that he does the greeks.
#look everyone has their opinion if you dont agree with what i wrote then just leave it alone#Greeks vs Romans#no gaia/giants weredefeated#annabeth is ovbiously on chb side#i think the rest of the seven would be more divided in their loyalties#frank and hazel (and maybe jason) would probably side with cj#piper and leo is a bit harder to discern but i think they would with chb only because of their siblings#but depending on which side jason chooses it will affect them either way#reyna is definitely on cj side#and coach hedge is on chb side#nico might stay neutral in the underworl his relationship with camp chb is complicated but it was his home for a while#and hazel is in the romans side so yeah he might stays neutral
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*yelling coming from the living room.*
Leo: Percy! Come here Percy! See what I mean!
Percy: No, I don’t see what you mean!
Annabeth: *stopping in the doorway where Piper and Nico are leaning against the doorframe eating popcorn. * What’s going on?
Piper: They’re fighting over whose name would make a better dogs name.
Annabeth: They’re what?
Percy: Leo is a much better name for a dog!
Leo: Sit, Percy.
Percy: I’m right.
Leo: Percy, drop it!
Percy: I’m going to hit you.
Leo: Staaaay! Percy, stay! See it’s a great name for a dog.
Percy: *chucking something across the room at Leo*
Nico: *from the doorway* Fetch Leo! Fetch!
Percy: Ah ha!
Nico: Percy’s right. Leo does work better.
Percy: Boom! Nico has spoken.
Leo: What about Nico for a dogs name.
Nico: No.
Percy: Nico’s a cat’s name.
Annabeth: Cat.
Piper: So a cat.
Nico: Suck it Valdez.
Frank: *entering the room* What’s going on?
Leo: What about Frank!
Frank: What?
Everyone: Come here, Frank! Good boy, Frank. Who’s a good dog! Good job, Frank.
Frank: I’m scared.
#pjo#Percy Jackson#leo valdez#piper mclean#Annabeth Chase#frank zhang#nico di angelo#I don’t know what this is#but here you go#chaotic demigods be chaotic sometimes#and we love them for it
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percy, sighing: why are you all in my dorm room
piper: we were bored
hazel: we wanted to see you
nico: we were looking for your blue candy stash
frank, will, and grover: *guiltily looking away from him*
percy: please guys, i had to go to 4 lectures today and took 2 exams. i’m exhausted and just want to go to sleep
leo: ah come on, you know you secretly want to hang out with us
percy: well in about 10 seconds i’m gonna take my pants off, so if anyone wants to stay-
*everyone immediately gets up to leave*
percy: goodnight!
annabeth: leo, i see you crouching behind the mini fridge
everyone staring at him:
leo: what? you’re telling me that none of you are even a little bit curious?
annabeth: get out.
#i feel like leo is that guy#no matter how straight he claims to be#he’s always a little curious#especially when it comes to percy#because we all know he has a man crush on both percy and jason#percy is over it lol#college demigods#pjo#hoo#incorrect quotes#pjo incorrect quotes#new rome university#percy jackson#annabeth chase#college percabeth#percabeth#leo valdez#piper mclean#frank zhang#hazel levesque#nico di angelo#will solace#heroes of olympus#percy jackson and the olympians#rick riordan#riordanverse
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