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It's pride month and ive decided to make lesbian OCs more specifically Muslim lesbians both are yet to be named
This will not be last y'all see of them, they will be back and even gayer next time
#queer muslim#original character#picrew#picrew niqab#picrew hijab#picreations#hijabi sapphic#muslim sapphic positivity#muslim sapphic#niqabi sapphic#burqabi sapphic#burqa oc#burqabi#niqabi#niqabi muslim#pride month#muslim lesbian positivity#lesbians#they are girlfriends#hijabi oc#queer muslims
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i love you mspec lesbians !! i love you "cringe" bunny hat alt fashion queers !! i love you she/her gays !! i love you trans people who don't fit into gender norms or stereotypes !! i love you drag queens and drag kings !! i love you neopronouns and xenopronouns users !! i love you people who use microlabels !! i love you unlabeled people !! i love you disabled poc queers !! i love you muslim queers !! i love you non-human queers !! i love you xenogenders users !! . . ♡ /gen
#mspec lesbian#she/her gay#transgender#trans community#trans#drag queen#drag king#neopronouns#xenopronouns#microlabels#unlabeled#disabled#disability#muslim#non human#xenogender#xenogenders#pride#queer#lgbtq#lgbtqia+#lgbtq+ community#lgbt community#lgbt pride#lgbtqiap#lgbtq rights#lgbt#lgbt positivity#lgbt representation#lgbt stuff
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ahem, taps mic....
lesbianism is not a quota to fill. lesbianism is not what you do. it is innate; it is who you are.
a lesbian is a woman or lesbian aligned nonbinary person who is exclusively attracted to women and non-man aligned nonbinary people.
you fit that? you're a lesbian!
lesbian sexuality is so profoundly beautiful and diverse and powerful. it is boundless, limitless and abundant. it is joyous and overflowing with glory and strength.
take pride, lesbians. we are the best.
❤️🧡🤍🩷💖
#lesbian#lesbian pride#lesbian positivity#lesbian joy#lesbianism#les4les#butch lesbian#femme lesbian#stud lesbian#stone lesbian#trans lesbian#nonbinary lesbian#aro lesbian#ace lesbian#aroace lesbian#black lesbian#brown lesbian#lesbian poc#lesbian woc#non partnering lesbian#disabled lesbian#christian lesbian#muslim lesbian#religious lesbian
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My Mini Blog Biography
Purpose of Blog
⚢ The purpose of this blog is to provide a place of community for Black lesbians of all different body types, ages, cultures, and gender expressions. From Black high femmes to Black stone butches and studs, I hope that you can feel represented and seen while you are here. I hope that this space makes you feel loved and appreciated exactly as you are now. Through historical analysis, art appreciation, and theory, we can learn together about the beauty of Black lesbianism in all of its different forms. 🤎🖤🤎🖤
Background Info (Blog Owner)
⚢ Hey I’m Kiliyah. I prefer she/her pronouns but I’m comfortable with they/them.
⚢ I’m a 24 year old Capricorn ☀️ with an Aquarius 🌙 and Sagittarius 🌅 I love learning about astrology and Human Design, I’m a Generator!
⚢ I identify as a fat high-femme lesbian. I’m also Muslim and Black (African “American”). I exist for the Black Butch Lesbians and hope to marry a Black monogamous Muslimah Butch one day (InshaAllah) 😽
⚢ Politically I identify as an anti-imperialist. Referencing the Black Alliance for Peace’s definition, I recognize imperialism as the highest form of capitalism and therefore one of the most destructive forms of oppression. I honestly think the U.S., NATO, and every other imperialist nation are the anti-thesis of humanity. I hate all U.S. presidents and I pray each day for the freedom, protection, and liberation of all oppressed nations in the world. 🌎
⚢ I’m currently receiving my master’s degree to become a therapist soon. I want to specialize in the fat identity, more specifically supporting fat clients with the stressors and disorders that are created and perpetuated by fatphobia and anti-fatness. I plan to support fat people with eating disorders, anxiety disorders, and mood disorders. I also want to become a couples therapist to support lesbian couples and their families. 🧠
⚢ I run a second blog called @fatxpsychology where I talk about the psychology of the fat identity and relay information through art appreciation, theory, and history!
⚢ My hobbies are crocheting, watching dark TV dramas (e.g., Game of Thrones, Breaking Bad, and Wentworth), cooking, blogging, and I want to get into baking soon. 🧁
⚢ I am always looking for more fat lesbians, Black femmes, and Black fat queers to connect with and become friends with. Please send a DM if you want to be friends ❤️
#new blog#fat positive blog#fat positive#black lesbian#black lesbian literature#queer hijabi#queer muslim#black and queer#black qwoc#Muslim blog#lesbian blog#fat lesbians#fat black lesbians#fat woc
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(I'll be one soon)
to all the hijabi, niqabi, and burqabi sapphics out there- you are wonderful. you deserve to find happiness, you deserve to find love if that’s what you want, you deserve to be safe and happy, and you are enough and valuable to this community!
#muslim lesbian#muslim sapphic#muslim sapphic positivity#muslim lesbian positivity#hijabi sapphic#niqabi sapphic#burqabi sapphic#queer islam#queer muslim#queer niqabi#queer hijabi
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arospec characters in my heart
#yrra cynril#carol ferris#khalid nassour#mia dearden#lilith clay#lesbian mia is 100% real but i like the idea of her also being arospec#khalid’s case is funny#bc i know he doesn’t get romance bc he’s a brown arab muslim man#but that’s okay i’ll spin it into a positive and project onto him#also he 1000% didn’t have feelings for jaya ok im not backing down from this#*shaya#or whatever her name is
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my mother is absolutely convinced of some nonsense conspiracy theory that (in her words) "originally humanity lived in peaceful all-woman societies of goddess worshippers who took care of eachother and lived in harmony, while males were roving loners that had no society and never cooperated. that changed when the men banded together and overthrew the peaceful woman-dominated societies, and enslaved us all." and, according to her, this is proof that a woman-dominated world would be innately more peaceful, and that men are innately violent and evil and should be either barred from holding any legal power or leadership roles or at least should be (again in her words) "gelded like bulls" to remove their testosterone before even being considered for such a thing.
she also evidently believes that the problem with all religions today is primarily that they aren't "goddess worshippers", because she seems to think goddess religions are inherently peaceful and pure too and seems to be especially obsessed with "Isis" in particular. the very very few times she's openly considered it unambiguously bad for some population or another to have been exterminated (she's got a bad case of devil's advocating genocide brain), she's gone out of her way to make up some crap about how said people were a peaceful society of goddess-worshippers, almost always of isis. delusions of isis-worship seem to be the only thing that ever causes her to consider any arab or middle-eastern culture, society, or ethnicity to be relatively uncomplicatedly undeserving of extermination, in fact, because every fucking time she doesn't immediately start devils-advocating it and making remarks about how "the rest of the world should box them in and let them blow eachother up" it's when she's whinging on about how whatever specific micro-ethnicity she's thinking about are or were traditional persecuted isis-worshippers.
the sole major exception to her weird fixation on isis worship justifying worthiness of life is the whole israel thing going on, in which she has consistently made very obvious that literally the only reason she's against the genocide of palestine is because it gives her an excuse to even more openly hate jewish people than she already did. and honestly i'm not sure even that's true because i think she's made some offhand remarks about palestinians having probably been peaceful isis worshipers before the jews infected them with christianity or something anyway.
so for the last, however fucking long it's been i've been constantly having to listen to her go off about how this behavior is in the jew's blood or whatever and that they literally invented all genocide because somehow the concept didn't exist before them and wouldn't have ever been invented by the rest of humanity without those jewish aliens dropping it in i fucking guess apparently and she furthermore goes on about how every single genocide and mass-oppression movement in history is directly inspired by them, ESPECIALLY the nazis, and THEN i have to listen to her rant about how, basically, wwii was something they entirely brought on themselves by "dominating the economy and treating everyone not them like shit" and the nazis were just "using their own tactics back at them". and then she goes on a rant about how the people the original jews exterminated back in the day (aka the first ever genocide, which they invented, because jews invented genocide and hate according to her) in the middle east region were peaceful matriarchal isis-worshipers.
and then she starts making comments about arabs being backwards and palestinians either being mysogynist muslims that should be boxed in to blow eachother up with everyone else or secret peaceful isis worshippers corrupted by men's cruel hand, sometimes in the same sentence, entirely dependent on which group she's more in the mood to hate at the time.
it's exhausting. beyond exhausting. her sole purpose in existence seems to be to have the singularly most exhausting set of politics physically possible to fit into one person.
just, sometimes i think, if there really is anything at all to the incredibly stupid and inexplicably popular idea that anyone or anything has a Purpose tm to exist for, i feel like my mother's purpose is to be walking proof to me of a Type Of Guy That Is Real, cause i sure as fuck would have trouble inventing this mess if it wasn't standing right in front of me spewing confusingly bipartisan hate. all of her thoughts and opinions are these long winding nonsense chains that feel like if that man carrying thing sketch about the friend with confusing politics was a person. on meth.
#and sometimes i feel like she just believes whatever will allow her to hate and feel innately superior to the most people#the fact that this woman considers herself a leftist#... well. given what this country just voted for it looks unfortunately likely that she IS in fact a fairly average example of a leftist#and therefore i have zero remaining hope for or particular desire to save humanity#actually it kind of feels like the only reason she really aligns herself with “the left” is because she's a female supremacist#and the left is the closest thing to a movement in that direction compared to the only current alternate party's “lets undo women's rights”#and also she inexplicably hates trump despite constantly devils-advocating for him and how he “has some good ideas”#and yes she does specifically mean about immigrants and the wall. one of her staunchest positions is pro-closed borders#honesty if trump was a woman and not a misogynist sex pest i think she would like him a lot. even despite his blatant ignorance of economic#she's also a big “anti-wokeist” type and we can barely watch any movies anymore without her whining about there being black people in them#and then she's like “PEOPLE ONLY DON'T WANT TO WATCH MOVIES WITH ME BECAUSE MY THEORIES ARE ALWAYS RIGHT AND THEY'RE JEALOUS OF HOW SMART”#she's nominally anti-corporation but in practice tends to come down on their side and is also staunchly against student loan forgiveness#because she thinks that “anyone who's stupid enough to do that deserves it”#and “it would be a slap in the face to ME and everyone else that had to pay”#and “kids these days don't want to develop healthy financial habits so they can SAVE for things. i SAVED for it and i know how HARD it is”#the way she often talks i also increasingly feel like the only actual reason she hates christianity is because she's a female supremacist#especially since she regularly goes on about biblical things as if they're real and complains that god either must be a woman#because “only women can create”#or that god CLEARLY is a man because he's destructive and evil and Destruction is a Man Thing That All Men And Only Men Innately Do#and likes to talk about how “jesus said he would come back as the least of us so he would be a woman”#and then goes on to describe a woman that sounds suspiciously like her. or at least her perception of herself#she's also said that if she wasn't straight she would be a political lesbian by choice because she hates men so much#and has tried repeatedly to bitch at me about men in an “eyyy amirite sister” kind of way#and got mad when i didn't fancy the idea of sitting there joking with her about half the species being barely-sentient cancer nodes#but she ALSO identifies as sapiosexual despite having the most vanilla housewife smut book taste ever#but ALSO she considers every single other sexuality aside from straight and gay to be made up woke mental illness nonsense!#so according to her the only orientations are “normal”. gay. and sapiosexual. and SOMETIMES bi (but no pan or poly).#i'm fairly sure she's convinced asexuality isn't real and is just repression. she certainly acts like i never said anything every time.#unless she's explosively yelling at me for “always bringing it up” when i tell her to stop making jokes about me being attracted to things#and she thinks anything other than monogamy is “selfish” and “exists only for men to abuse women”. especially muslim and arab men.
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“The hivliving situation isn’t funny she took advantage of people” actually it’s hilarious. White girl college student literally pretended to be a lesbian Muslim Chinese Pakistani human trafficking survivor HIV positive married to an Indian transwoman and she and her group of fandom police called other people online racist and severely bullied them because they wrote Hamilton fanfiction she didn’t like. Not only that but she did all this so she could write her OWN shitty hamilton fanfic. She wrote about her struggles as a person of color and HIV survivor and talked as if she was an authority on these topics and no one called her out because they actually believed her insane story and didn’t want to call her on it. And All of it was a lie. Identity politics is insane. I wouldn’t be surprised if a vast number of people on tumblr are doing something similar while also being white girl college students. It is so fucking funny and I’m tired of pretending it’s not. Tumblr is most certainly a website.
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I remember reading this in a islam related post but I can't find the source. I will share it anyway:)
"It's a sin to think you are superior to someone and it's a sin to think someone is superior to you."
This changed my life, I hope it can change yours too
@ all the religious queers who follow me (or don't lol), y'all should reblog this with what your favorite part of your religion is. it could be a particular ritual, an item, a belief within it, an experience you had, anything!
we should share some good against all the bad that we get <3
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🍉 Sapphic Palestinian Fiction Books for Pride Month
🩷 I know, I know. You're probably asking yourself, "Why is she posting about these same books AGAIN?" Here's the thing. I grew up as a Palestinian, American, Muslim, QUEER girl with no awareness that these books existed. No one was talking about them. Honestly, very few people spoke about Muslims or Arab-Americans in a positive light when I was growing up, let alone Queer Palestinian women. But these books DO exist. They deserve to be loved, and you know what? Young queer people (male, female, nonbinary, gay, lesbian, bi, pan, trans, EVERYONE within this beautiful queer spectrum) deserve to know that they're SEEN. That people like them EXIST. That their stories matter (I have a completed contemporary YA novel about a bisexual Muslim, Palestinian American girl publishers don't seem to want) and deserve to be shared, heard, LOVED.
💖 So yes. I'm going to keep talking about these books. I'm going to make sure people know they exist. I'm going to talk about them during Pride, throughout the other 11 months of the year, during 2024 and beyond. Because you're not seeing them. You're not reading them. And by ignoring these stories, you're ignoring the people they represent, too.
❤ Help me by sharing this. Please.
🍉 Sapphic Palestinian Books:
🩷 Between Banat by Mejdulene Bernard Shomali 💖 The Philistine by Leila Marshy ❤ The Twenty-Ninth Year by Hala Alyan 💜 Belladonna by Anbara Salam ❤ Haifa Fragments by Khulud Khamis 💖 You Exist Too Much by Zaina Arafat 🩷 A Map of Home by Randa Jarrar 🍉 The Skin and Its Girl by Sarah Cypher
#queer book recs#queer books#pride month#sapphic books#sapphic romance#palestinian books#save palestine#free palestine#muslim writers#palestine books#queer fiction#queer romance#queer community#queer#pride#batty about books#battyaboutbooks#books
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A positive experience I really wanna share with y’all about being trans that I think is so so important to think about. So I’m white, very much from a well off background, all that, also trans so I have experienced plenty of frequent bigotry in my life. I’m doing my damnedest to be aware of and understand the concept of intersectionality and how different layers of identity add different types of privilege or burdens in our society. But you know what else life has taught me so much about as a trans woman? Community.
I’m wrapping up a treatment I’ve just given to an elderly black woman. She looks terribly disparaged at her phone. Ask her what’s up, she tells me oh it’s just there’s so many bigots online. I sit and with a long sigh and small smile I tell her, “yeah. Yeah I know. All too well.” She looks back at me and takes a moment to think then smiles and says “yeah, I suppose you would know.” I feel seen like never before by another person.
I’m at my darling wife’s new year’s celebration at her relatives’ place. We’re playing scattergories. She’s mixed race, lots of black relatives, someone brings up police in passing about something and me and one of her cousins at the same time roll our eyes and both say ACAB and go wide eyed looking at each other, smiling and laughing together about it. It’s a moment of like omg hell yes you totally get me, we know that same anger!
In a women’s space having some girl talk. We talk about makeup and clothes and love. Beauty standards, our bodies, anger, men, love. Cis women asking me tips on eyeliner. Sharing my knowledge and experiences growing as a man and living as a woman. Laughing together about how good it feels being a lesbian, how freeing it feels, how hard it can be. I don’t have periods, but neither does the woman who’s gone through menopause. I’m laughing with them about hot flashes and how miserable they can be. We talk about traveling on the subway, being catcalled, being harassed feeling unsafe. We’ve all been there. They too, are sisters to me.
I’m at a kink party. I’ve brought a bible for some funny impact play. I’m an ex catholic and I love me some heresy in the name of the lord. Emulating the disciplining of another queer person in attempt to cleanse them of sin, deriving pleasure from the ironic madness of the situation. An ex Muslim guy brings out his Quran and angrily reads passages about finding salvation in Allah at the sub we’re having fun with, joining in on the religious heresy. Later in the night, we talk about our experiences and relationships with our religious backgrounds, he’s telling me if he ever went home he’d be killed for his bisexuality. He scorns the radical Muslim faith as strongly as I loathe the radical Christian faiths of the US. We see eye to eye with each other, how of course it’s not all bad, but that doesn’t erase the bad either. I understand in that moment what feelings I didn’t recognize we both have felt caused by our own ways of life we were raised in. The similarities in spite of the world of differences.
I know, I’m just a white girl with a lot to learn in her life about philosophy and privilege and power and a million other little things that separate my experiences from those who’ve lived very, very different lives to me. I will never understand the experience of transmisogynoir and being a trans woman of colour. But that doesn’t mean I can’t empathize with aspects of it. That I cannot build community with them just the same as the people just like me. As I live and learn, I slowly become more aware of the experiences of black peoples, black women, black trans women. I become a more emotionally intelligent person, stumbling into moments like where I, a white trans woman and another, a black cis man, both recognize each other as fellows who’ve known the same pain even if for different reasons. It’s genuinely a favourite experience of mine. The community, the symmetry, the unexpected feelings of “Oh. I didn’t realize we’ve both felt that before. The world feels less lonely than ever, suddenly.” Communities are distinct from each other for experiences unique to them, of course! It’s so beautiful, the rainbow of differences between us all. It is also beautiful, discovering the natural bridges that connecting each other, bringing us together in unity, making us feel so much less isolated in this technicolor world. It’s truly a thing of beauty to me.
From the bottom of my heart, I’d love and appreciate it if folks would reblog/reply with similar experiences they’ve had to this, I think more than ever it is important for us to recognize how close we truly are with the wide and wonderful spectrum of other people around us, nurturing the unity that makes us all shine brighter and stand taller together. Moments where despite how different you were from another person, you could bond with them over experiences you had both lived through and could understand the feelings of. Moments where you found community where you never expected it <3
#my writing#god how do I even tag this#trans#transgender#trans rights#privilege#intersectionality#lgbt#lgbtq+#pride#mental health#positivity
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positivity post for all trans women and transfem people with everything happening here lately, you are so valid and loved!
to Black, indigenous, latina, and asian transfems
to transfems who are on estrogen, who have had surgery, who aren’t/haven’t and don’t want to, and who do want to but can’t right now
all sexualities and romantic attractions: lesbian, bi, pan, ace, aro, straight, aroace, and more
to trans women, to multigender transfems, to nonbinary transfems, and all forms of transfem gender experience
to femme, androgynous, and masc transfems
to transfems of all religions and spiritualities: muslim, jewish, christian, buddhist, hindu, and more
to physically disabled, mentally ill, and neurodivergent transfems
to all trans women and transfem people 💐🌈✨💕
(unfortunately i have to say this but terfs and radfems don’t even try it you will be blocked instantly i will not platform that kind of shit)
#message from mirph#rainbow magic#positivity#trans positivity#transfem positivity#lgbtq community#transfem safe
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hi maya, how are you? there's something i would like to ask for your advice on, i know you've manifested your mom to not be muslim anymore, right? so basically, i come from a very strict muslim family, but i'm secretly bi or lesbian, i don't know which one i am yet but i know i like girls for sure (i'm a girl). as you probably know, being LGBTQ isn't allowed in islam. because of this i've always struggled with my mental health and i've always hated myself, and after finding out about the law, i've decided i want to revise me and my family ever being muslim. now the thing is, my best friend is also muslim, and because she is muslim too she believes that being gay is horrible and disgusting (from what i've seen her repost on tiktok), she reposts videos saying that gay people should not have rights, and that gay weddings are disgusting, and that it's stupid that pride month exists, and stuff like that. i have never talked to her about it because im too scared to ask her, because i know shes going to say that our religion believes being gay is wrong and gross...seeing the videos she reposts makes me feel really bad but she is my best friend ever and i dont want to stop being her friend, but i really just cant relate to her anymore because i dont believe in islam anymore and i like girls...is it okay for me to manifest her not being muslim either? or is that wrong? i really need advice...
Nope it’s not wrong. You have the power to shape your own reality. You can manifest change in people, situations, and relationships. But just my personal opinion, If you can bring about such change, why not choose to manifest a better friend or a healthier relationship?
This is just my perspective, but if someone disrespects you or treats you poorly, do we need to change them? I understand that friendships and bonds are built over time and letting go can be difficult. However, I believe in not trying to change those who harbor negativity towards me.The same goes for relationships. Instead of altering past lovers or individuals who may have wronged us, why not manifest someone who appreciates and respects us from the beginning?
Regardless , it's your reality. Your assumptions will shape it regardless. But this also ties back to self-concept. You deserve better. You deserve someone who adores and respects you from day one.But you can also choose better for yourself. Manifest relationships that add value and positivity to your life.
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By: Helen Pluckrose
Published: Dec 6, 2024
In the last two rounds of Premier League football, players have been wearing rainbow armbands in support of the Rainbow Laces Campaign which, in conjunction with Stonewall, seeks to advance LGBTQ+ acceptance in sport. Crystal Palace defender, Marc Guehi, caused controversy over the last few days for having written “Jesus loves you” on his armband one day and “I love Jesus” on another. The Football Association (FA) has kit regulations against religious messaging so there has been considerable discussion about whether he should be disciplined for this in the news and on social media. It has been decided by the FA that he should not but that he and his club should be reminded of the rules.
Most of the discussion, however, has centred around two related issues, both of which, I would suggest, are largely irrelevant from a liberal freedom of expression perspective. The first was what Guehi’s messaging meant and whether it was positive or negative towards LGBTQ acceptance. That is, was he saying “I, as a Christian, support Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Trans and Queer people’s right to be Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Trans and Queer and believe that Jesus does too?” Or was he indicating that he qualified his acceptance of LGBTQ people with the teachings of his Christian faith and saying something more like, “Homosexuality is a sin but Jesus loves everyone including LGBTQ people. I wish they would turn from their sin and embrace Christ.” This second interpretation is often referred to as “Love the sinner. Hate the sin.” Guehi’s own explanation of the meaning did not entirely clear this up although it ruled out hostility and a wish to discriminate against LGBTQ people in football,
I think the message was pretty clear to be honest. It was a message of love and truth as well, and a message of inclusivity so I think it speaks for itself.
The second point of contention on both mainstream media and social media was to do with Ipswich’s Sam Morsy who simply declined to wear an armband supporting LGBTQ acceptance at all on the grounds of his Muslim faith. If there is talk of the FA disciplining Mr. Guehi for signalling his religious commitments by writing on his armband but not of disciplining Mr. Morsy for signalling his by not wearing an armband at all, would this constitute a double standard that privileged Muslim beliefs over Christian ones?
From a pure ‘freedom of belief and speech’ perspective in the abstract, both men have the absolute right to express their religious views either by actively stating them or declining to state anything in contravention of them. This is the case whether Guehi was conveying that acceptance of homosexuality, bisexuality and trans identity is compatible with his Christian faith or that it is not. People also have the right to express positive or negative views on this subject or refrain from affirming any views on it due to beliefs that are not religious.
However, this did not occur in the abstract or in a neutral public space. It happened when the men were at work. There is not an expectation of absolute free expression in places of work. Employees are quite reasonably expected to address work-related issues during working hours. However, people do, of course, naturally speak about or reference beliefs they hold at work and so policies exist which do more or less well at upholding the principle of freedom of belief and speech in the workplace. The best ones aim to remain neutral on issues of politics, philosophy and religion, make reasonable accommodations for employees’ deeply held beliefs where needed, mind their own business about what those beliefs are and refrain from interfering with the expression of them outside the workplace except in cases where an employee has said something that causes reasonable concern about their suitability to do their job. Many employers or regulating bodies require employees not to engage in political, religious or philosophical messaging while performing a public facing job and the FA is one of them. In this case, Guehi broke the kit rule about religious messaging while Morsy did not.
This is unsatisfactory, however, because the context in which both players were acting was one of pre-existing political messaging. Both Guehi’s decision to add to or qualify the message with his own beliefs and Morsy’s decision not to participate in it because of his beliefs should be understood as responses to beliefs they were being presented with. Guehi is conveying “Yes, and…” or “Yes, but…” while Morsy is conveying “No.” From a liberal perspective, if an organisation is going to engage in any form of political or religious or otherwise ideological messaging, it should have policies which allow individuals to adapt them to accommodate their own beliefs or opt out.
The basic template that I help employers customise when writing their own antidiscrimination policies to ensure that freedom of belief and speech are protected looks like this and is to be found in The Counterweight Handbook:
“1. Make a general statement of adherence to relevant antidiscrimination law. Such laws typically involve straightforward opposition to discrimination on the grounds of characteristics like race, sex, age, sexual orientation, gender identity, national origin, disability or genetic information, pregnancy, and marital status. 2. Make a commitment to treat all employees with equal courtesy and consideration and to refrain from any prejudice or hostility on the grounds of the above and ask all employees to do the same. 3. Take care to specifically state that employees are free to oppose discrimination on the grounds of their own political, philosophical, or religious beliefs, which they need not share publicly. 4. Make a commitment to not impose any religious, philosophical, or political beliefs on others at work and require employees to do the same. 5. Make a commitment to not tell employees that their particular religious, philosophical, or political beliefs are false or immoral and ask employees to do the same when at work. 6. Make clear that any demands that the company adopt any particular religious, philosophical, or political belief that goes beyond existing antidiscrimination law or company policy and that is contradictory to other lawful religious, philosophical, or political beliefs will be rejected. 7. Make clear that these statements and commitments are taken very seriously and that any contravention of them will lead to appropriate disciplinary action.”
Both Christianity and Islam are lawful religious beliefs and both can highly plausibly be interpreted as holding that homosexuality is a sin although not all Christians or Muslims interpret their faith this way. Christians and Muslims have the same obligation as everybody else not to be abusive towards or discriminate against same-sex attracted people, but no obligation to endorse messaging that they believe will harm them and to be untrue. I strongly suspect that this is what Guehi’s reference to ‘love’, ‘truth’ and ‘inclusion’ meant. Morsy’s non-messaging gives no indication of his feelings towards LGB or TQ people and we don’t actually have any right to know what they are. We only have the right to expect certain standards of behaviour and there is no indication that his has given any cause for concern. I very much wish that nobody believed homosexuality to be morally wrong, but a lot of Christians and a greater proportion of Muslims do and they must have the right to both hold and express this belief. Equally, those of us who disagree with them must have the right to both believe and say that this belief of theirs is morally wrong.
In a liberal society, we seek to co-exist, not to compromise. That is, we aim for a society in which there is a consensus that people can believe and say that others are factually and/or morally wrong and commit to not harming them or denying their freedom to believe, speak and live according to their beliefs. This principle should be enacted on a number of levels - legal, institutional and personal - and it should apply to all kinds of beliefs and ideas. The law should protect freedom of belief and speech. Institutions and organisations should commit to not institutionalising any religious, philosophical or political ideology (except religious, philosophical or political ones, obviously). Individuals who value the principles underlying our liberal democracies should commit to limiting their attempts to get others to adopt their worldview to trying to convince those who have agreed to engage with them of the truth and value of it. There should be no prioritisation of one kind of idea over another. Deeply held religious views should merit no more accommodation than any other kind of deeply held views, but nor should they merit any less.
The FA is not a religious, philosophical or political organisation. It is a sporting organisation. The rules under which Marc Guehi could have been penalised state that religious, political and personal slogans, statements and images are prohibited. It notes that ‘political’ is harder to define than ‘religious’ or ‘personal’ but includes “any organisation whose aims/actions are likely to offend a notable number of people.” This is unsatisfactory phrasing. A notable number of people can be offended by almost anything. Photos of my cooking once led to a lengthy Reddit thread discussing whether the English are even human. Certainly, a notable number of people are opposed to specific aims and actions of Stonewall especially when it comes to its stance on the inclusion of trans women in women’s sports, an issue that a significant majority of Britons (including me) oppose for reasons of safety and fairness. However, rather than considering whether people are likely to be offended, I would suggest it is better to think in terms of the policy statement 6. above, “any particular religious, philosophical, or political belief…that is contradictory to other lawful religious, philosophical, or political beliefs.” If the slogan, statement or image which you are trying to get everybody to wear would require anybody to convey something they don’t think is true or ethical, don’t try to get everybody to convey it.
Manchester United’s LGBTQ+ supporters’ group, ”Rainbow Devils” (not a name likely to inspire Christians or Muslims with trust) got things precisely backwards when speaking of the decision not to wear a jacket in support of the campaign after one player said he did not want to,
"We respect the right of this player to have his own views, whilst also feeling disappointed that he put the rest of the squad into a position where they felt that they couldn't wear their jackets.
It is extremely unlikely that one person could put everybody else into that position but much more likely that everybody else could dissuade one person who wished to abstain. It is very difficult to be the lone dissenting voice in a group and liberals should work consistently against the establishment of norms which make this harder, even when we believe the dissenting voice is wrong. By protecting the lone voices in the majority whom we believe to be wrong, we protect our own when the majority thinks we are wrong. Supporters of the rights of sexual minorities should know this better than anyone.
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Organizations should not be engaging in any of this in the first place, unless it's part of their core business, such as Walmart asking staff to wear Christmas paraphernalia.
As Helen says, none of this has anything to do with the FA's business. It's pure virtue signalling.
Companies like Disney are up to their armpits in this stuff, actively destroying their business by making movies and TV shows to signal to a tiny minority of people - who aren't even interested in those franchises - alienating everyone else in the process. Rather than making movies and TV shows for the broadest audience (i.e. paying customers) possible.
#Helen Pluckrose#secularism#liberal values#liberalism#liberal ethics#virtue signaling#virtue signal#freedom of thought#freedom of belief#freedom of religion#freedom from religion#Marc Guehi#Sam Morsy#religion is a mental illness
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As legalization of same-sex marriage inches closer to reality in Thailand, the Pew Research Center looked into attitudes across the continent.
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From the Pew Research Center:
Same-sex marriage is an active legal and social issue across South, Southeast and East Asia. In the wake of several court rulings on the issue across Asia in the past year, we analyzed data from three recent Pew Research Center surveys to see how people in the region feel about legalizing same-sex marriage.
A median of 49% of adults in 12 places in Asia say they at least somewhat favor allowing gays and lesbians to marry legally. Another 43% say they oppose legal same-sex marriage, according to surveys conducted between June 1, 2022, and Sept. 17, 2023.
Views toward same-sex marriage are most favorable in Japan, where nearly seven-in-ten (68%) say they at least somewhat favor allowing gays and lesbians to marry legally. Japan, the only Group of Seven member that does not legally recognize same-sex couples, has been facing internal and external pressure to do so.
In Vietnam, views on legalizing same-sex marriage are similarly positive – 65% of adults support it. Roughly six-in-ten in Hong Kong (58%) and Cambodia (57%) also favor legal same-sex marriage. A Hong Kong court recently ruled that same-sex couples hold equal inheritance rights, though Hong Kong law does not allow them to marry.
Same-sex marriage was an issue on Thailand’s campaign trail this year. Six-in-ten adults there favor allowing gays and lesbians to marry legally. Around a third of Thais oppose it.
In India, where the Supreme Court recently rejected a petition to legalize same-sex marriage, about 53% of adults say they favor allowing gays and lesbians to marry, while 43% oppose it. (The survey was conducted prior to the ruling.)
In Singapore, no clear majority favors (45%) or opposes (51%) same-sex marriage. Same-sex marriage is not legal in Singapore, and its parliament amended the constitution last year to prevent legal challenges to the definition of marriage.
And in Taiwan, roughly equal shares say they support (45%) and oppose (43%) same-sex marriage. Taiwan is the only place in Asia where same-sex marriage is legal.
In a handful of places in Asia, majorities oppose legal same-sex marriage. In Indonesia, 92% say they oppose it, including 88% who strongly oppose it. Large majorities in Malaysia (82%) and Sri Lanka (69%) also oppose it.
And in South Korea, a slight majority (56%) say they oppose legal same-sex marriage, while 41% favor it. Lawmakers proposed South Korea’s first same-sex marriage bill earlier this year.
Views of same-sex marriage by religion
Though different places have vastly different religious demographics, the religiously unaffiliated tend to be among the most likely to support same-sex marriage.
In the six places where enough religiously unaffiliated individuals were surveyed to analyze their responses separately, half or more of the religiously unaffiliated support legal same-sex marriage. That includes 73% in Japan.
Meanwhile, Muslims and Christians are often, but not always, among the least likely to support it. For instance, while roughly six-in-ten religiously unaffiliated Singaporeans favor same-sex marriage, fewer than a third of Christians and Muslims do.
In Indonesia and Malaysia, the two Muslim-majority places surveyed, Muslims report the lowest support for same-sex marriage of any religious group in any place surveyed. Only 4% of Indonesian Muslims and 8% of Malaysian Muslims support it.
Views of same-sex marriage by age and gender
Across most places surveyed, younger adults are more likely than their older counterparts to support same-sex marriage. This difference is most extreme in Taiwan: 75% of Taiwanese adults under 35 favor it, compared with 33% of those 35 and older.
In five places surveyed, women are more likely than men to support legal same-sex marriage. For example, in South Korea, 48% of women say they favor it, compared with 33% of men. And in Cambodia, 62% of women favor it, compared with 50% of men. In other places surveyed, there are no significant differences by gender.
Note: Here are the questions used for the analysis, along with responses, and the survey methodology.
Sneha Gubbala is a research assistant focusing on global attitudes research at Pew Research Center.
William Miner is a research assistant focusing on religion at Pew Research Center.
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i saw your post about baby queer muslims and idk if youve ever read hijab butch blues but as a nonbinary lesbian who grew up in a really religious environment (catholic), even though im not muslim, i found it really like. affirming and comforting. lamya talking about her experiences discovering her own gender & sexuality via connecting to figures in the quran and ultimately finding acceptance & community with other queer muslims & queer people in general after a lifetime of confusion and self doubt was like…. idk. its a really beautiful memoir. reading it felt like talking to a friend or being in a book club kinda, since so much of her own journey w gender and sexuality involves thinking critically about islam and how the quran applies to her own life, and finding pieces of herself in a lot of the stories idk but yeah its one of the books that touched me the most this year
you know its been on my to-read list for a long time and this does definitely feel like a sign to read it 😭 based on the synopsis it sounds like we have a lot in common, so im almost positive it is going to make me cry like a baby lmao. im glad u could also find some catharsis in it. it is tough being religious and queer but as always we have each other 🫂🫂
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