#mia discussion

[yunwooz]

personally for me i think people are getting a little too quick and comfortable excusing tyong for MAYBE owning a censored version of that manga.. it's still wildly disturbing and has nuances that may not be so simply censored

[bamgeut]

Hi! Thank you for sharing your thoughts on the whole mia situation. I agree whole heartedly with your stance, I just wanted to provide a light defense of soobin on the whole mentioning thing (with the caveat that your feeling a totally valid, I just wanted to share my thoughts). I'm guessing that the reason that soobin felt comfortable mentioning the anime was because there is a 15+ version available. They have been careful about 18+ media in the past; I remember a live where a member (I want to say beomgyu?) was talking about a drama that they liked, someone in the comments reminded him that it was 18+ and he quickly backtracked and said that young moas should wait to watch it. Soobin has also cut off controversial topics in the past, like when he was complaining about the twitter/X change, but when he realized it was a due to change in leadership he changed the topic and said he didn't want to talk about it anymore. I think there was a lot of confusion due to misunderstandings on the international fan side. Which is not to say Korean fans are always right, that is very obviously not the case, but I do think it's fair to note due to things like i-fans being unaware that Korea had a censored version of the anime, as well as the mistranslation of the word 'provocative'.

That's all to say, it's still fair to say this was a bad judgement call on soobin, and hopefully he's more mindful in the future. Just wanted to talk it out!

that's actually a great point, i hadn't thought about it from that perspective! but yeah, if we assume he was watching the 15+ rated version then it would make sense i guess. we can't be sure, considering he said it himself that it was disturbing, but that's something we'll never know, unfortunately. i'm with you on that part about the international fans though, as far as i've seen the korean fans don't seem too bothered by this whole thing. and the mistranslation really didn't help huh 💀

thank you for sharing your thoughts babe, i'm glad we can all discuss this without going for each other's throats 😭 (xwitter i'm looking at you)

[tubapun]

Hey that relationship chart just made me think. You ever think about how one day Mia might be channeled into a body older than hers. That Maya will one day ask her sister's spirit to come back to her and be struck by the youth her body regains. Maya will, for all we know, one day be 28. But Mia? She's always 27. Forever. She will never know a version of herself in her 30s. Or 40s. No one will. Maya will not only outlive her sister, but out-age her. And it will not take long.

[velvees-archive]

Dual Destinies spoilers (5-3)!

How this short exchange between Phoenix and Athena nails Phoenix’s characterization absolutely boggles my mind. His cageyness masked by his warm expression, the wistfulness and exhaustion behind his every word. His devotion to the friend he wanted to save, his admiration for Mia Fey, and the sting of betrayal come together in just two screens of dialogue + minor shifts in his expression, and somehow he manages to suppress the memories with a cheeky “it’s complicated.”

Phoenix is so profoundly human.

Screen recording I took if anyone wants to see the interaction, music, sound effects, and all.

[elbiotipo]

I just don't see any enviroment as pristine or free of human influence. I don't see humans as being apart of nature. And I don't see human activity on nature as inmoral or undesirable. Which does not mean I support paving over everything or building farms everywhere. I just think humans build landscapes, it's what they do.

Whenever being hunter-gatherers in cultivated forests, creating rice terraces, building skyscrapers, managing silviculture systems, deforesting to plant soybean monoculture, creating aquaculture in the deep sea, building small fishing towns, or preserving rainforests for tourism, humans are just part of nature. It is our culture that defines what kind of landscapes, what kind of ecosystems, grow around us.

We can either embrace this and build landscapes and ecosystems that will allow us to preserve our planet and recognize the importance of nature to our well-being, or keep the stupid "humans are a plague" way of thinking and keep the sharp dichotomy human/nature, which will only bring us to half-solutions at best.

[metanarrates]

chat i need to get further in my orv reread. so i can write fanfiction about yoo mia.

[glitter-stained]

I know you probably aren't familiar with the character, but thinking about DC and mental health and John Constantine.

Hellblazer comics lead, magician, con man, seriously messed up life.

I'm pretty sure he's the only (semi) heroic DC character who is explicitly shown with the 'ugly' kind of mental illness, and has spent time in a mental hospital as a patient.

Constantine's backstory involves an exorcism attempt by teenaged Constantine and friends horribly backfiring. What regular people see is Constantine stumbling out of a house full of corpses, holding a little girl's severed arm and babbling frantically about demons and hell.

Obviously he gets railroaded as responsible for all the deaths, and ends up in Ravenscar hospital - basically Arkham in UK, only more tough to escape from.

There's a lot of scenes where he is treated horribly - beaten up by guards, the doctors ignoring his injuries, unnecessary drugging, all that. Everyone feels he deserves it, because as far as they know, he murdered half a dozen people, including a five year old.

Even Constantine, talking in retrospect, feels he deserved all that - though in his case it's because he made a horribly wrong decision while sane, and caused the kid to be dragged to hell.

The actual diagnosis is never stated, but he is clinically insane for at least a while - apparently as the result of the mindbreaking trauma that happened during the botched exorcism.

There's a couple of incidents where he's basically dragged out of the hospital (usually by bad guys) to deal with some magical crisis or the other, all the while protesting that he is not okay, that he needs the meds, needs the hospital.

And when he is released from the hospital to an outpatient program basically for cost cutting than because he was better, he is shown begging to be let back in. A lot of his issues stem from not getting the help when it was needed - and that, given his power, lead to worse decisions and spirals.

There's a lot of fics which have Constantine involved with the Batfamily. Haven't seen one go into the premise, but the potential... His attitude towards Arkham or the Rogues... Towards how mentally ill dangerous criminals are treated, given he himself was in the role of the mentally ill dangerous criminal once...

I am in fact familiar with Constantine's character, rest assured his ass is sitting patiently in my waiting room for when I'm finished with Jason, Cass and probably Mia. Yeah, the waiting room's a little bit crowded btw, we're not taking any admissions for the moment.

[nuzlight-mia]

[CONT. FROM HERE]

Necrolie is unable to get a word in at all, despite Mia's multiple sentences, her text box refuses to make way for Necrolie's rendering her mechanically speechless.

Your consciousness is suddenly booted from The Nuzlight like a kick to the head. You manage to fight past the dizziness, feeling like you might wake up from a dream you weren't ready to finish yet, and zone back into the game.

Before you is the title screen again. You hover on it, regaining your bearings. It seems you're unable to rejoin The Nuzlight, perhaps you can ask her nicely to let you back in...

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OG ask:

[bxnesandstxff]

spending money on books instead of food

[yunwooz]

Would you please be able to link the video essay on mia that you listened to? I’d like to see for myself what kind of content it is as I’ve all i’ve seen is the anime being described as dystopian with some gore/shocking moments. I’m leaning towards the side of some of the idols being unaware of the source material and possibly only watching it because it was such a highly rated show but watching that video essay may put things more into perspective for me. Thanks!

Yes absolutely! There's definitely a lot of nuance to the conversation in trying to figure out what is true of some things and untrue of others, so I found this video really helpful in understanding more beyond just reading about it ^

[bamgeut]

Hey! I just want to say, I'm also soobin biased and I pretty much landed at the exact same thought process as you after reviewing the whole situation, so I felt a lot of relief seeing someone lay it all out so well. It was a confusing and messy situation, so I just wanted to say I appreciate the effort you put into doing research and considering all the factors. I feel like a lot of people haven't done that at all (both of the side of defending and condeming), so it's been a really frustrating time.

yep, it's been a whole mess. i'm glad people are taking the time to research and think about it for themselves though. like i said whether you decide to unstan or not, it's all cool as long as it's your own decision! the extremist behavior i've seen (mostly on twitter) only does harm to everyone involved, for both sides, so it's great to see that people around here are taking a breath and taking it slow rather than jumping to one side or the other.

[rmbunnie]

I am alone on this barren earth (Jason Todd liker and Mia Dearden liker who honestly thinks issues 69-72 of the 2001 Green Arrow run are fun and good and would really like to talk about them beyond "Jason Todd was ooc and irredeemable there because he was trauma-dumping on Mia but also everything he said was fake and made up and he was manipulating her to become his sidekick and he blew up her school in retaliation because she didn't so really we should ignore the whole comic as bad writing /or agree he should just be read as an sadistic sidekick killer" (None of which is true and over half of which is directly stated to be false in the comic's text) but all people ever have to say about the comic is weird wrong takes about the three pages in which the gym fight happens ripped out of the very interesting and fun surrounding context)

[firadessa]

I remember the Mother’s Day event in Pixie Hollow and one of the baby animals featured was a kitten (if memory serves me correctly), even though cats are a fairy’s natural enemy?

Yes, it's very weird! This cat seemed to debut in the 2012 one in Sunflower Gully.

It's sort of odd, because the movie timeline never really concretely said the predators of fairies, so only hawks and rats are portrayed as predators. Cats... like Mr. Twitches are a different case.

I find it odd, even after everything that happened in the Great Fairy Rescue- the characters don't express any anxiety during the picnic scene but Cheese obviously. I assume that once they sedated Mr. Twitches with the catnip they lost their fear. Fawn seems to know about cats, and the fairies find out though cats are dangerous to fairies- there's the idea that cats are easily distracted animals too- and the domesticated cat is very different than many animals in Pixie Hollow. Assuming there are no like regular cats in Neverland. (there may have been a lion in Peter Pan 2, can't remember)

In Never Girls 2, The Space Between- a cat wrecks havoc in Pixie Hollow and the story follows Fawn trying to make the cat more docile- the cat thinks she's a bird, and she seems to know this is the cats natural instincts, but the fear is still really real.

I assume the only reason they added the cat for the 2012 event was to differentiate it from the previous years, as well as provide an animal most kids find cute. They seemed to take suggestions and listen to the community after all. Pixie Hollow Online is it's own timeline in itself from all the inconveniences from both the book and the movies- like the Never Unicorn, mainland fashions etc. A cat is also fitting Sunflower Gully because Iridessa is sort of an anxious character fitting for a cat, and luring the cat out could be a fun activity.

Additionally, there's the idea that baby predators don't have the hunting instincts yet- this is explored with Hannah in Neverbeast. So, maybe that's why they wanted to help the baby cats.

In the books, the biggest predators are hawks, wasps, and snakes. I'm guessing in the Disney Fairies extended universe, cats are aloof and distractable but dangerous when they are hyper. I mean in the little animation of the cat, it just sort of attacks and cuddles the yarn ball and doesn't really look at the viewer. The first instincts the fairies have is to scatter, but it seems fairies can't resist cats either.

[elbiotipo]

It's a little weird when you check a person's profile and the first thing it says is something like "PEDOS/RACISTS/NAZIS DNI", why would you want the first thought other people online see about you be framed by the worst people you can think of, it's like introducing myself and immediately saying "by the way, rapists are horrible people and I don't want to talk with them", agreed, yes, but why are you telling me this in our first conversation

[art-the-f-up]

Now that Felonies and Other Love Languages is complete (!!) and I don't have to worry about spoiling anything I can finally share the brainrot moments and some of the most fun conversations I had with @miabrown007 about characters throughout the fic. mostly includes me hating on Luka.

also, bonus:

this collab was sm fun

[str4wb377yyyyyyl3m0n4d333333]

Grocery list with images+nutrition label! (1/3)