#marriage equality means polyamorous marriages

[thorne1435]

I don't know about you guys, but I think that if (at least) two people say that they're married, then that means that they're married. No matter who it is, if they all agree that they are married, then they should immediately be legally recognized as "married."

I do not care about the "sanctity" of filing your taxes or w/etf.

Just let anyone claim anyone (of age, who consents, in their household) as a spouse. It literally does not matter. You should not care.

Make it so that both of them have to put each other down as "Spouse" so that consent is better enforced. I don't care. Just get rid of marriage as a legal process. This is stupid.

[anistarrose]

I think when a lot of queer people who aspire to marriage, and remember (rightly) fighting for the right to marriage, see queer people who don't want marriage, talking about not entering or even reforming or abolishing marriage, there's an assumption I can't fault anyone for having — because it's an assumption borne of trauma — that queers who aren't big on marriage are inadvertently or purposefully going to either foolishly deprive themselves of rights, or dangerously deprive everyone of the rights associated with marriage. But that's markedly untrue. We only want rights to stop being locked behind marriages. We want an end to discrimination against the unmarried.

We want a multitude of rights for polyamorous relationships. We want ways to fully recognize and extend rights to non-romantic and/or non-sexual unions, including but not limited to QPRs, in a setting distinct from the one that (modern) history has spent so long conflating with romance and sex in a way that makes many of us so deeply uncomfortable. And many of us are also disabled queers who are furious about marriage stripping the disabled of all benefits.

We want options to co-parent, and retain legal rights to see children, that extends to more than two people, and by necessity, to non-biological parents (which, by the way, hasn't always automatically followed from same-gender marriage equality even in places where said equality nominally exists. Our struggles are not as different as you think). We would like for (found or biological) family members and siblings to co-habitate as equal members of a household, perhaps even with pooled finances or engaging in aforementioned co-parenting, without anyone trying to fit the dynamic into a "marriage-shaped box" and assume it's incestuous. We want options to leave either marriages, or alternative agreements, that are less onerous than divorce proceedings have historically been.

I can't speak for every person who does not want to marry, but on average, spurning marriage is not a choice we make lightly. We are deeply, deeply aware of the benefits that only marriage can currently provide. And we do not take that information lightly. We demand better.

Now, talking about the benefits of marriage in respective countries' current legal frameworks, so that all people can make choices from an informed place, is all well and good — but is not an appropriate response to someone saying they are uncomfortable with marriage. There are people for whom entering a marriage, with all its associated norms, expectations, and baggage, would feel like a betrayal of one's self and authenticity that would shake them to their core — and every day, I struggle to unpack if I'm one of them or not. If I want to marry for tax benefits, or not. If that's worth the risk of losing disability benefits, in the (very plausible) possibility that I have to apply for them later in life. If that's worth the emotional burden of having to explain over and over, to both well-meaning and deeply conservative family members, that this relationship is not one of romance or sex. (Because, god, trying just to explain aromanticism or asexuality in a world that broadly thinks they're "fake" is emotional labor enough.)

Marriage is a fundamental alteration to who I am, to what rights an ableist government grants me, and to how I am perceived. I don't criticize the institution just because I enjoy a "free spirit" aesthetic or think the wedding industry is annoying, or whatever.

[francis-writes]

Being in polyamorous relationship with Feyd and Rabban HCs with GN!reader

( specifically in a vee type of relationship so you're with both of them but there's no incest)

SFW

I know I said before that they wouldn’t share you, at least with each other but hey, a girl (gender neutral) can dream! And ending up with them both isn't so impossible.

It's easier to start if you're with Feyd-Rautha first, or if you're free and still trying to choose. Feyd is more confident so it's less risky in his eyes to share you. Though he's possesive, well, however that sounds, he sees this as a way to show his superiority over Rabban. Like yeah, you choose Feyd first and Rabban wouldn’t be able to have you if Feyd didn't mercifully agree for that. Rabban isn't very happy with this idea and games of his brother but he accepts it as the only way to be with you. The other way around, it would be much harder to convice Rabban for a polyam relationship because he doesn't want to give away everything to his brother and he would be afraid that you would leave him eventually. But there's also another reason that motivates them both to agree on sharing you: threesomes. But NSFW part will be later.

If you agree on this relationship, you have an important duty and that's bringing balance and stability between them. Watching shit go down is funny once in awhile but it's better if you're boyfriends don't have a constant war with each other.

You usually spend your time with only one brother at once, not just because they like to have your full attention but also all of you have own duties. But every now and then you make sure to spend time all three together.

For longer time, it's not official. Giedi Prime might be famous as planet of debauchery but it's only in some ways: you can have as much concubines as you want, especially when you're rich, but having a stable relationship with two men is still taboo. The other matter is fact that Baron still considers gaining power through getting his nephews into political marriage.

Speaking of the Baron... I mentioned in other post that he would enjoy if brothers competed for your affection because he could use that conflict for his own goals. Happy stable relationship isn't useful to him at all. Even if you have some higher position there's still two problems: 1. Why waste two nephews on one political marriage. Not stonks 2. Happy stable relationship is a threat to his power. Nephews may listen to him less. Rabban may gain self-esteem. That's a big risk. But well, you're still safe as much as you can be. Brothers protect you and they had a talk with their uncle to ensure some rules and your status.

Your relationship isn't official and known to most people, commoners, other Houses and even some local nobles. You don't accompany brothers during public events and even if you're there, you keep your distance and have believable excuse for your presence. Only their inner circle knows about what's between you three. You can be more open about it during dinners together, though when there's Baron Harkonnen present, you can sense he's not very happy about any sign of affection. But who knows, maybe one day he will start appreciating you.

Still on sfw note, when you're all in one place, you usually share a bed. Unless you're not very cuddly and each one sleeps in separate bed to have enough space.

In a scenario where they all survived events of Dune and remained in positions of power, when there's no one stopping them, they would eagerly marry you if you wanted (by no one I mean their uncle; Bene Gesserit and many other Houses thinks that it's a scandal but uhmm Harkonnens don't give a shit abt that). Any previous conflicts and fight for dominance would be put aside. They want to show that you're equally married to one of them, not just are a spouse of one and lover of the other. Desire to show the middle finger to social expectations is even stronger than any their competition.

NSFW

Of course, I know I couldn't skip that part. I know you waited for it. So yeah, now you can finally read about threesomes, the reasons you got into this post.

I'll skip the moments when you are just with one of the brothers because there are many other posts about it. The only thing I can add in that matter is that for some time they considered making a schedule to make sure that you don't spend too much time with one of them but eventually you gave up on this idea.

Question is, isn't it awkward for them to share you? Wouldn't they feel weird while spitroasting you - lets say, you suck off Rabban, he looks up and looks in the face of his brother while Feyd fucks you from behind. Isn't it unfomfortable even for them? The answer is no. At the beginning they may have some doubts, but lust quickly wins with other feelings and they never mind it again. Despite all the conflicts between them, they know each other well enough to not feel embarrassed while naked around each other. Also they are kinky enough to uphold the reputation of House Harkonnen loving pleasure and perversy. They would rather high five each other over your back than feel awkward (it's just a metaphor. Unless... jk)

Dynamics change everytime, especially if you're a switch. As I mentioned before, Feyd is dom leaning switch and Rabban is sub leaning switch but that doesn't stop them from ocassionaly dominating you together. Or sometimes you dom one of them while other doms you. Or you dom them both. Or you dom one of them and the other helps, well, not sexually but for example he says something to help you humiliate your sub (I'm not pointing fingers). You get the point.

Sometimes you fuck just one of them but you're not completely alone and the other brother just sits next to you and either minds his bussiness or just observes you while being kinda turned on and kinda supportive.

You: Feyd, I am sorry but do you have to keep staring?

Feyd: *shows thubs up* i just admire your strength. Go on. Ride him like Fremen rides a sandworm.

You and Rabban: ;_;

[rewritingcanon]

no girl tell us what you think about jegulily!! im so here for it (tone is weird but I mean that genuinely, I don't ship them so I'm not here to be weird)

dw bae ur tone is fine ! (i’ve been waiting for an ask like this 💀) i think jegulily is... yeah its…. like usually as long as its legal idgaf as long as shippers portray their characters right but regulus fans are literally incapable 😭🙏 WHY WOULD U PAIR A MUGGLEBORN AND A BLOOD SUPREMACIST IM SO DONE WITH DIS FANDOMMMM!! that actually goes for a lot of lily ships like bartylily as well (no clue where that came from either but it’s equally as stupid lmfao).

and jegulily just feels like shoving in lily because people feel bad for ditching her, or shoving in regulus because some people like jily and jegulus and want them (for some reason) to coincide even though it makes zeroooo sense for it to. like, idk if i said this with jegulus before (i yap sm on this account i forget what i say), but like it, jegulily can be done well if a realistic dynamic is taken into account, but the marauders fandom is allergic to nuance and so just chalks up everything regulus does and believes to his neglectful homelife. hes not all-bad, sure, i do feel bad for him, but im nowhere close to shipping him with a woman whos part of the people hes trying to eradicate, or with her man who purposefully went against all pureblood tradition (which is such a large part of james’ character— he is a pureblood that chooses to be seperate from that culture hellooooo plz wake uppppp).

marauders fandom has a chronic “i can fix him” mentality when it comes to wizard neo nazis, i have never understood it. but thats a topic for another day.

jegulily should be filled with envy, toxicity and prejudice stop nerfing it to be some fluffy feel-good polyamorous stable marriage where they raise harry together. yall are looking over the potential. this ship has blood and guts in it plz act like it or else idk what to say 😭 if it doesnt end with at least one of them getting murdered i dont want it.

[getsuuna]

another day, another dumb ass take from KNY TikTok Fandom !!!! /extremely derogatory

the topic of the day is Uzui's family, and it all started off from a girl on TikTok affirming Tengen's marriage is strictly polygamous, which could be a valid opinion from a certain point of view, but let's dig further.

she was specifically referring to people portraying them as a polyamorous relationship, and strongly opposed to it, going so far as:

•blocking people who tried to discuss (including me)

•making a mockery video on it (which she then deleted due to threats in DMs, which I don't justify, no matter how rude she was)

•unblocking me trying to discuss further, except all she did was talking to me as if I was an uneducated and misinformed fool, and eventually blocked me again after speaking utter nonsense

so, what was the nonsense about?

it started with Suma, but I'm sadly going to have to digress on Tengen himself. she denied Tengen being a polyamorous character, because "he's polygamous and no you cannot be both"

now, I indeed spent lots of time educating myself on labels as a queer person, but I am not polyamorous, so correct me if I'm mistaken: Tengen is polyamorous by definition.

I never denied that Tengen is in a polygamous marriage, but he's polyamorous.

Uzui's family was in a clan that canonically practiced polygamy solely for reproduction purposes, which, by the way, is usually the reason why polygamy was practiced in different cultures, and it's obviously rooted in misogyny. even the manga itself portrays this tradition as dehumanizing for women, it portrayed the historical reality of women being seen as possession and inferior worth overall.

Tengen, too, was forced into polygamy, but literally most of his character revolves around the fact that he detached himself from that toxic environment, and he was the only one that actively valued his wives' lives more than his own.

briefly, he was the only one that actually LOVED his wives, unlike every other male member of his clan in such polygamous marriages.

yes, he's in a polygamous marriage, but he loves all of his wives equally and they're all obviously consenting to that relationship as an actual marriage, and not as an excuse to make babies. polygamy was never about feelings and love, unlike polyamory. Tengen is undeniably polyamorous, and he's widely seen and known as polyamorous representation.

yet this kid apparently had the nerve to deny that, and also denied that polygamy as a concept and as a practice is misogynistic and messed up. "there's people who are ok with it" maybe because it's tradition forced upon them??? "polyamory didn't exist back then" 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 neither did every queer label that we now know and use. sexualities weren't labeled nor legal, and it absolutely didn't mean they weren't there, and the sole fact that she assumed that made me want to just give up on that so-called argument we were having.

I wasn't even irritated anymore, just disappointed but not surprised. she just kept bragging about the same 2 phrases over and over and assuming I didn't know nor understand what she was trying to say.

what maturity level do you actually expect to give off if you start the discussion by assuming I don't know what you're talking about, using annoying and ironic pet names and just going "uhrm I don't think you understood...! hope that helps...!" ??? I unfortunately lack the patience to deal with such buffoonery but overall it's basic common sense that someone who wants to have an actual discussion should NEVER behave like that. it's not really the fact that she's wrong that pissed me off, it's the attitude, the fake superiority complex kinda vibe.

moving on to what was supposed to be the initial topic: their whole polygamous marriage being or not being polyamorous.

they're not all legally married to each other, the 3 women are only legally married to Tengen (which is the point that homegirl repeated to me over and over again as if I didn't have enough comprehension skills while reading the manga)

HOWEVER, just because they're legally recognized as polygamous doesn't mean the 3 women can't be interested in each other as much as Tengen is interested in all 3 of them.

polyamorous Tengen ≠ polyamorous relationship, we get it, but what if? Gotōge revealed that during the marriage interview, Suma proposed herself as a wife instead of her sister,, and immediately after, they also revealed that Suma is bisexual.

oh, wait, the bisexual label didn't exist back then, yet bisexuality existed indeed! 💋

but that's besides the point, because bisexuality obviously doesn't imply polyamory...however², Gotōge has coincidentally revealed this cute little fun fact right after speaking about the fact that she begged to be Tengen's wife.

Tengen's father apparently chose the wives for his sons basing himself on the "chemistry" they seemed to have with them (still NOT love btw, if we take in consideration how poorly Tengen's brothers treated their wives) and he chose Suma's sister alongside the others, yet Suma still crashed in. then Gotōge put a comma and added "it seemed she preferred both men and women".

technically, specifying that wasn't necessary, especially since Suma is married to a man. but can you see where this is going??? it was stated for a reason, and, even better, it was stated right after that sentence for a reason.

call me delusional or call it a headcanon, but the point stands, plus this silly bisexual woman lives every day of her life with 2 other pretty women and they're all a big family. I think it's valid to assume they kiss each other.

and homegirl took it personally🙏🏻 she defends polygamy but draws the line at polyamory and queerness, the irony🩷 also, she's christian. I absolutely don't want to generalize but I see a pattern.

anyways, I don't want people to harass her or send her threats, I was just pissed off by her immature behavior but hey, she was the fuel for me to make this brief analysis which I thought was basic analytical skill😭 this Fandom never fails to cross a line I never even knew was there🤞🏻

[term-repost]

[ID: A pride flag with five horizontal stripes of: dark purple, dark pink, orange, pale yellow, and green. End ID.]

Amatopunk!

Challenging notions of what it means to be in a relationship, defining love, and how important each form of it is to society. Amatopunk as an idea challenges amatonormantivity, and how society views aspec people, polyamorous people, and others who do not fit into the “right” mold. Anyone can identify with amatopunk and be a part of it if it fits them.

While it was made with aspecs and polyamorous people primarily in mind, this is because those are groups I am in. So long as you identify with the ideas of amatopunk, you are welcome to use it however you want. Disabled people, trans people, GNC people, POC, and so many more can be under this label; anyone who wants to be amatopunk is.

Amatopunk will mean different things for different people, and that’s okay. It’s a broad, inclusive label for different types of people, and how amatonormantivity affects them and/or their community.

Amatopunk is focused on both relationships and love itself. Some people have gone around saying it’s strictly, or more specifically, about relationships, and this is not true. Amatopunk is about both love and relationships!

Amatopunk does not include or endorse dangerous relationship styles, or things that harm other people. Notable examples include pedophilia, zoophilia, and incest. Please do not everuse this flag to create incestuous, pedophilic, or abusive content.

Amatopunk ideas and notions!

Fighting the idea that certain kinds of relationships are necessary

Fighting the idea that love must be followed a certain way, or that you must experience certain kinds of it

Fighting the idea that sex is required in any kind of relationship

Inclusion of aspecs, polyamorous people, and others within the community, and fighting against the stigma they deal with. Amatopunk is no place for bigots or exclusionary ideas.

Erasing the idea that you need any kind of relationship to be whole, or happy. Relationships are a choice, not a must.

For many, amatopunk may include relationship anarchy; it’s a big topic, so I definitely suggest looking this up!

Breaking down what it means to be in a QPR versus a romantic relationship versus a friendship; the “lines” between the two are important to many, but they are not a must. Friends can kiss and have intimate relationships, romantic partners can choose to never kiss, etc.- it’s about comfort and boundaries, not the type of relationship you’re in.

Challenging the idea that people like aspecs, polyamorous people, etc. are broken or cannot have a regular family. Furthermore, you do not need a family at all, if you don’t want one.

A family can be a man, woman, and two kids, a family can be three moms and one kid, and a family can be one man and 6 dogs; family is family.

A heavy emphasis on comfort, boundaries, communication, and consent in all forms of relationships

A removal from the ideas of what makes a family. Full inclusion of found families, queer families, polyam families, etc.

A rejection of forced gender roles on all genders, and of course, inclusion and representation of MLM, WLW, diamoric, and all kinds of other queer people in all kinds of relationships.

Marriage equality for those who do not have it, such as disabled people and polyamorous people.

Full inclusion of alloaros, loveless aros, aplatonic people, and others who may feel like outsiders in their own communities (so long as they want to be included!).

A rejection of amatonormantivity and societies perceptions of romance and sex in general.

(This is not all it can be! This is just some examples of what amatopunk may look like. As previously stated, amatopunk is a very broad, inclusive, and personalized thing, with experiences that even I likely do not experience being included within it.)

The flag!

The flag was made by me, and is a blend of various flags and other colors. Other people can absolutely make their own amatopunk flag if they would rather use a different kind! Furthermore, you can use mine for whatever you’d like so long as you credit me in some way.

The stripes do not have specific meanings due to how broad the experiences within this idea may be, and everyone is welcome into amatopunk, but purple and green were put there with aspecs in mind.

originally posted and coined by user Kenochoric /Kenochoric-moved

archive of the amatopunk carrd | archive post

[biracy]

abt your post abt bi women belonging in the wlw community just as much as lesbians : i was reading the replies and youre so right abt how ignorant people are abt what comphet really is. im a lesbian and like yea i think we would experience comphet in the most intense way since were not attracted to men in any level, but comphet isnt only abt that, its a symptom of the patriarchy forcing women to center men in their lives and hell even straight women experience comphet, let alone bi women. people just have thrown around the word comphet so much they dont even know the true meaning

I was actually gonna post abt this soon LMAO so yeah!! I think it's also a misunderstanding of what "heterosexuality" as a dominant social force is to say that lesbians who are not attracted to men can experience "comphet", but bisexual women who are attracted to men cannot experience it. "Heterosexuality" as it is defined by dominant social forces is not only "a relationship between a man and a woman" - it's almost always a relationship between a "masculine" man and a "feminine" woman, and quite often a relationship between a man and a woman that results in monogamous marriage and childbirth. When people write about comphet, they're not talking about how movies and TV and fairy tales and children's books and my parents and my teachers and my religion all came together and told me to want to fuck genderfucky bi guythings. There is a specific kind of man centered in the heterosexuality enforced onto women, and a specific kind of role that a woman is expected to take on in that heterosexuality. I think the idea that bi people (women especially) cannot experience "comphet" overlaps a lot with people who believe that all bisexual people have the capability to become "straight-passing" if they enter different-gender relationships, which is in and of itself based on, in my observances, the belief that "gay/lesbian culture" and "bisexual culture" are completely distinct and that bisexual people are in some way innately less capable of being gender-nonconforming (or as some Tumblr scholars will call it, "visibly queer"). Bisexual people often date each other, we're often trans and/or visibly gender-nonconforming, and that's not something that we can just turn off the minute we enter into a quote unquote "heterosexual relationship." I'm bisexual, I'm nonbinary and id as both a man and a woman (so I take part in all these "sapphic" conversations etc etc u know the drill), I'm weird and kinky and switchy, I'm polyamorous, right now I'm dating a cis butch bi girl and a trans + nonbinary pan guy. At this point in my life I have absolutely no interest in relationships with cishet men, I don't want to get monogamously married, I never want to have children. I have not performed heterosexuality any better than, idk, a "gold star lesbian" has, and I FEEL it, I'm given shit for it, every relative I have pressures me already about boyfriends and grandkids and whatever. I do think there are bisexual people sometimes who do conform more to Straight Society but a) I think there are an equal amount of gay guys and lesbians who conform to Straight Society tbqh and b) it doesn't cover the breadth of bisexual people who do exist and who do feel the pressure to conform to the mainstream, dominant social system of heterosexuality and who CANNOT conform to it any more than you, anon, probably can. So yeah TL;DR bi girls can definitely experience "comphet" lmao and people are probably gonna hate that I said that

[deathlygristly]

I've always thought of the word "empathy" as meaning "thinking of other living beings as real alive people with their own thoughts and feelings and desires and needs." I've realized recently that a lot of people on the internet use it to mean something more like "feeling the same exact feelings as someone else, often if not always at the exact same time they're feeling it."

Like for me empathy leads to the conclusion that all living beings are of equal infinite worth. Whereas a lack of empathy leads to seeing living beings in a hierarchy of worth and thinking it's okay to hurt the ones who are lower on the hierarchy. It also leads to not seeing others as individuals and assuming that other people are just kind of cardboard cutouts of your own projections and categories and immovable assumptions.

Like with my current mental bugbear: a lack of empathy means "Oh, everyone else has the same experiences and beliefs and desires that I do, and if they don't they're wrong. Everyone should live the life I want to live." So with the marriage and kids and age thing, people who lack empathy will insist that everyone should live the same way they want to or that their particular social group says is the correct way or whatever, instead of just accepting that other people are different and that's okay.

For me empathy doesn't mean I feel the exact same feelings as the person who wants to have kids or who wants a big conventional wedding or who never wants to get married or who is polyamorous or who is aromantic or who doesn't want to get married until they're 50. For me empathy means understanding that other people aren't me, that they have different feelings and experiences and desires, that I will never feel the exact same feelings that they do, and that it's perfectly fine for them to make different choices than I've made and live differently than how I live.

Is there a different word I should use for that to be more understood and more able to understand online discourse?

[thecloneroom]

Been very tired lately so art has been slow, so here is a quick one, explaining the oa's insane marriages and family structures.

The oa live in tribes of between 20-100 individuals. They're usually matriarchal, led by a single older woman, or sometimes a small group of older women. Women typically live in the same tribe their entire lives (though tribes can split if they get too big). When men come of age they will leave their birth tribe and find a new tribe to marry. And I do mean that in the sense that a man marries an entire tribe. They are highly polyamorous, with everyone having multiple spouses. When a man joins a tribe, any women who is of marriage age at the time of his joining are his wives. Likewise, once a woman comes of age, any men who join the tribe after that point are her husbands. People can have sexual and romantic relationships with any of their spouses.

Image 1 is a general family tree. It's shown from the perspective of E, who is currently a child, but everyone would have these sorts of relationships. Since women can have relationships with multiple men at once, usually one's mother is the only parent known for certain. Therefore, when a woman has a child, all of her current husbands are equally considered the father and all perform parental duties. This means that men will have a large amount of children, and most children have several fathers. Therefore, in this family tree men are grouped together and treated as a single "father unit".

Things to note are that F, who is labeled as E's sibling, is likely to be a half-sibling, but socially they are treated as full siblings since they share a mother and a father group. Women D and B are unrelated, however they largely share the same husbands, therefore their children are considered at least distantly related through sharing a father group (and therefore have the potential of being half-siblings).

It should also be mentioned that E might have uncles of their mother's side and definitely has paternal relatives, however those people aren't shown because they're in another tribe. The oa in general don't give much of a shit about their father's side of the family or in-laws (since if they did, families would get so much more complicated than they already are). They also don't put much emphasis on male relatives other than fathers and brothers.

Note that if any of the children here are boys they will leave this tribe when they reach adulthood.

Image 2 is relationships of a married man. When a man joins a tribe he's married to all the women who are of marriage age at that time. This means that young men will be married to pretty much all the women in the tribe, while old men only have a few wives remaining. If any of the man's wives have children after than point they're considered his children (regardless of if they're genetically related or not). Any children his daughters have are his grandchildren and so on. Not shown in the image but when a man joins a tribe any existing children who are underage are considered his step-children.

Image 3 is the relationships of a married woman. Young women will only have a few husbands, but as they get older they will gain more and more husbands as more men join the tribe. Old women will be married to nearly all the men in the tribe. A woman's fathers are basically any men that her mother is married to but she is NOT married to. Her grandfathers would be the fathers of her mother and so on.

As a few further notes. All these diagrams are heavily simplified, real tribes would be far more complex with many overlapping generations. Also, this sort of family system is common but not universe, some cultures do things differently, but this is considered but most basic system.

[findyourflame]

very minimal changes for our princess cat but!! enough changes to warrant a ref

headcanons beloooow~

Blaze, getting older and older, seems to be growing more impatient in finding a suitable suitor (or more) to further her bloodline and foster her kingdom. She has a genuine connection and duty to preserve her kingdom, and wants to bring in only the best to be members of the royal family through marriage.

She's not very good at understanding jokes or sarcasm, to the degree of attempting those things under the genuine belief that people mean those things genuinely. People have tried explaining it to her, it's never stuck in her head.

Because of the importance of the relics in her dimension, she's incredibly stone faced and stern when it comes to discussing the powers of the universe and the objects that hold such powers. When the others suggest potentially dangerous ideas for using the Chaos Emeralds, she gets on edge, considering that the term 'chaos' is part of the shtick with those gems.

Blaze is an equal opportunity lover, aka pansexual and polyamorous. She uses she/her pronouns but doesn't understand why it matters aside from the usefulness of referring to people without using their names.

[1997thebracket]

Round 1A

Romy and Michele's High School Reunion: Do you have some sort of business woman special? Sandwiched generationally between Clueless and Mean Girls, 1997's Romy and Michele's High School Reunion was a marriage point between the visual-heavy valley girl comedy of the former and the feminine food chain breaking of the latter for a slightly older audience, sporting equally memorable fashions and spouting equally quotable dialogue as its sisters. The movie follows underachieving best friends Romy and Michele who, upon receiving the invitation to their titular high school reunion, hatch a plan to impress their former classmates the same way we all have or will one day: lying. (About inventing Post-Its!) As a film, Romy and Michele never takes itself seriously, and produces character gold anyway. There is no struggle to balance the radiant chemistry between the girls with the irreverence of the script, and it doesn't expend energy on redeeming school-age relationships that have no place in their adult lives, instead embracing the pure feverdream fantasy of telling a bully to get fucked via an impromptu choreographed dance number with bisexual icon Alan Cumming. The three then exit in a helicopter to... seemingly have an open polyamorous relationship? At the very least, the epilogue implies billionaire Alan lets the girls findom him. It is the only ending the movie deserves. (Now, would you excuse me? I cut my foot before and my shoe is filling up with blood.)

The DVD Launches in America: It's March 24th, 1997, and as a nation we're starting to get a bit bored of award shows (the more things change, the more they stay the same.) Viewership is down for the 69th Academy Awards, hosted by Billy Crystal; The English Patient is absolutely clearing house and winning Best Picture, but critics would later say that sucked the life out of the room and left a dull atmosphere to hang. During the event, though, something long-delayed is coming to pass, and it'll ensure a spike in viewership for every film that takes home an Oscar moving forward: the DVD is being launched in the United States. Development of technology and the production process to follow can take decades and stagger public access for years, which made the life of the DVD for those behind the scenes feel ages longer than it would actually reign-- but while it reigned, it reigned. For those of a certain age, it's hard to believe the DVD had the keys to the kingdom primarily from '97 to '06 when the Blu-Ray would step onto the scene to mixed success, but split consumer attention with risingly-accessible digital purchases and streaming. By no means is the DVD dead today, it simply enjoys a different life on the shelves of collectors; it is not quite a nostalgic media format yet (as the VHS tape became) but generally exists in a space between what is current and what is retro. The value of owning physical media is gaining recognition in the corporate streaming age, and the DVD has emerged as the face of this above all formats.

[sassykattery]

The Royal Standard, Pt. 1

Welcome to Season 2 of "Love, Eternal," Chapter 6: The Royal Standard.

I hope you all enjoyed the Prologue chapters, but it is time to return to the present and see what happens to our favorite trio.

CW: MC is afab, uses she/her pronouns. MC is a demon and in a polyamorous relationship with two demons. Intense arguing. Mostly storyline.

Themes: MCxDiavolo. MCxLucifer. Relationships.

Characters: Diavolo and Lucifer. Mention MC.

Minors and ageless blogs DNI

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Enjoy.

And remember, not everyone has honest intentions.

"I planned on proposing tomorrow night," Diavolo stated.

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His words echoed in Lucifer's mind, and the pressure was still building in his skull from the headache that was forming.

"Diavolo," was all he could say, his voice was low with a warning tone.

"Yes?" Diavolo said back, equally warning.

Lucifer's fists balled up and he gave Diavolo an icy glare. "Isn't it too soon?"

"As I said, I've given this great consideration, and I know what I want," Diavolo explained.

"What if she says no?" Lucifer asked.

"That is her right. I won't force her into anything she doesn't want to do, I respect her wishes," Diavolo replied calmly.

It took all Lucifer had to not go berserk on the prince. "She doesn't even know what that would mean for her," he replied, his voice tense.

"I anticipate her having questions, and I will be sure to answer them all honestly."

Losing all composure, Lucifer shot to his feet and slammed his hands on the desk, leaning over it. "Why? Why are you doing this?" he snapped.

Now Diavolo was getting irritated, so he stood to his feet slowly and leaned in to get into Lucifer's face, slowly letting his demon form materialize. "I think you are forgetting your place, Morningstar."

He couldn't let it go, "Why? Answer me," he barked, Lucifer's own demon form flashing into existence.

"Because I love her, and she is all I will ever want. I want her to be by my side and rule with me. I can't imagine anyone else for the role, nor will I ever want anyone else," Diavolo retorted.

"You haven't thought this through. She can't give you want you want," Lucifer growled, leaning forward, inches from the Demon Lord's face.

Diavolo's anger rose, and he inched closer to Lucifer with eyes locked in on the Avatar and all muscles flexed and ready to pounce. "Excuse me? What gives you the right–"

"She won't give you an heir," Lucifer hissed.

"What?" the prince barked.

Lucifer looked as though he could pop a blood vessel. "Have you even bothered to ask if that's what she wants? Because I have, and you would surely be mistaken to go through something like this without even considering that rather important aspect of marrying royalty."

Diavolo stopped and considered Lucifer's words, leaning back slightly. It was true, that he hadn't even asked you about such things, but he had assumed it would come up as one of your questions about certain aspects of a marriage with him.

"I won't explain it to you, because you need to ask her yourself," Lucifer said in disgust.

"I... I don't care. If she doesn't want that, then I won't force the issue. I want her and only her. If I can't marry her, then I simply won't marry at all, and then there's no point in an heir anyway." Diavolo turned his head away.

Lucifer's jaw fell agape. "You can't be serious," he said.

The prince looked back at the Avatar, emotions bubbling in his golden gaze with his brows furrowed. "Put yourself in my shoes, Lucifer. I've finally found someone like MC, and I love her as much as a demon can love anybody. I won't let her go, not over something like that. And she doesn't love me for my title or the benefits that come with being with me, she loves me for me. I've lived an incredibly lonely life, and for the first time in it I don't feel alone when she's around. I cannot lose her," Diavolo explained.

Now it was Lucifer's turn to listen and consider his lord's words. It's true, by having six brothers, he never experienced loneliness in the way Diavolo had. And if Diavolo even felt a fraction of what Lucifer feels toward you, and Lucifer was certain the Demon Lord did, he could understand why you were more important than the royal succession.

However, it would be naïve to think this wouldn't create problems in the future.

Diavolo's voice softened, sat back in his chair in his regular form, and he continued, "I asked you to meet with me to also discuss the nature of our relationships should she say yes."

Lucifer looked up through his lashes, reeling from the intense anger he felt about it all. "Go on," he said through his teeth.

"Nothing should change very much, but I will require more of her time for political and social events. I plan to offer her to move into the castle permanently, but I'm also open to other arrangements if she so desires. I don't expect her to end things with you for the sake of the marriage, so you two are welcome to continue seeing each other," Diavolo stated.

Lucifer didn't often find himself gob smacked, but in this instance, he was at a loss for words. However, this only drove his suspicion higher. He sat back in his chair and asked, "Why would you allow that?"

"I promised that she would never want for anything and to always do my best to keep her happy. I intend to keep those promises," Diavolo replied.

A thought struck Lucifer. It had occurred to him once upon a time that he too wanted to possibly marry you, however, he never quite had the opportunity or the courage to see it through. He was already on a rocky start with you, he didn't want to upset you with the idea of commitment on that level. He also understood that if you did indeed say yes to the Demon Lord, then the dynamics of the relationships would change. Surely, having a spouse would be more important than a romantic partner, and Diavolo already explained he would need more of your time, so what would be left for himself?

"Let's hear it, Lucifer," Diavolo ordered, seeing how deep in thought Lucifer was.

"And what if I wanted to marry her?" Lucifer quipped.

"I obviously couldn't stop you, though–" Diavolo started to say.

"You absolutely could stop me, and you know it," Lucifer hissed back.

Diavolo was struggling to keep his temper under control, which was rare for him. He ordinarily wouldn't get so heated in any argument, but for some reason when it was about you, he was falling victim to his temper that he worked so hard to keep tightly wrapped.

"Not if it's what she wanted. If she wanted you over me, I would simply have to let you do it," Diavolo replied in resignation.

"Then, you do understand that by her choosing to marry one of us, that leaves the other out of her life, just through logistics and priorities alone," Lucifer explained, his voice becoming quiet again. He finally reverted back to his regular form.

They were both silent, thinking about that prospect. Neither of them were ready for such a change in dynamics within their relationships with you, at least in the way of possibly losing out on their position in your life.

"She's made it work with us this far, she could surprise us, you know," Diavolo thought aloud.

Lucifer thought the same, but his stream of ideas had a different course in mind, "What if there was another way?"

"I'm listening."

"There are multiple options here. One, would it be possible for her to marry both of us?" Lucifer mused.

"Though that's not something that's necessarily illegal here, it does make for messy paperwork. There's no reason as to why she couldn't, but I just don't know about the legal logistics of it," Diavolo replied, sounding uncertain.

"Then, two, if you are wanting her to have all the power of ruling next to you, and for the sake of argument she didn't want to marry either of us, would it be possible to give her the title without a marriage contract?"

Diavolo continued his thoughts out loud, "Technically, yes. I think I would probably find myself answering to very angry aristocrats, but in theory, I suppose that's an option too. Similar to how I would have to name a successor eventually, I could just give her the title, and that would be it."

"So... what if you did that instead?" Lucifer asked cautiously.

The Demon Lord stared at the black box on his desk. "You don't think you'd miss the idea of one day making her your bride?" he asked aloud, but it was uncertain if he was talking to Lucifer, or maybe asking himself.

Lucifer scoffed. "Truthfully, when I thought about how my life would go after the fall, I wouldn't have guessed that I'd be in a romantic relationship with a human who is also in a romantic relationship with my boss, and then that human decides to give up her soul to be with us for eternity, and that I'd want to marry said human-now-turned-demon. At this point, I'm open to whatever is thrown my way."

Diavolo raised his eyebrows, not having considered that himself.

"Then, I suppose, my proposal will be slightly different than I originally imagined, but a proposal nonetheless."

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[royaletiquette]

Could Hibis truly fell in love? Would they be able to fight for their love? Or are they too bounded with their status?

Man this is where I start to feel a little bad for other muses.

Hibiya is not necessarily a monogamist, but he is sure as hell not interested in having a polyamorous relationship. He's just the kind of asshole that if he's not in love with who he's married to, he has no issue finding that elsewhere. I say that because he also has no reservations about needing to marry the person he's in love with. Marriage is a point of status to him when it really comes down to it; a title, a promise. It's not necessarily a declaration of love, but a bond between families, kingdoms, what have you. If he's in love with a prince[ss] but has to marry someone else, he doesn't totally see an issue with still making time for that person even if it has to be in private. (If anything, he thinks they should understand completely if they're also royalty/nobility.) To him, that's fighting for his love. While his family and responsibilities come first, making the time and effort for someone that isn't so easily a part of that is kind of beautiful in its own way.

But all that is in the assumption that he's falling for someone that he thinks understands him at a base level: someone who has equally been put through lectures and expectations from the court, their people, history, parental figures, advisors. Someone at least of similar status, upper crust. Hibiya is not interested in being with someone on a serious matter if they don't inherently have that. He doesn't want to teach someone the faux pas and manners of all the cultures he interacts with, and explain why some things are more important than others, and why he can't just do what he wants, who cares! More likely than not, he's going to lead them on and have their fun and when things get serious, he's hanging it up. There are enough things to worry about than marrying someone not of any status or them crying about how they don't understand his priorities. That's where the line is drawn. He's not fighting to keep someone in his life that will just not get it, no matter how hard they try or pretend they do.

Hibiko is a liiiiittle less set in her ways. It's more muse-dependent, so it's harder to say. By default, Hibiko would be happy to just experience love, even if it meant having to move away once married. With someone not of nobility, she'd be more likely to fight if she wasn't pushed to. Them wanting better for her and not blindly following what her parents want, would easily be twisted as them actually wanting what they want and keeping Hibiko for themselves. Fighting destiny is something she would have to come to the conclusion of on her own.

Falling in love with someone closer in status would garner way more of a fight out of her. Even if it means having to inherit her father's crown, Hibiko knows how rare and important it is to have someone she can trust so deeply when politics are involved. The ending choice would still ultimately end in whatever her parents decide, trusting they heard her out and gave it an honest thought, but she would have a firm stance for a while there at least that she's going to make it happen.

[minniepetals]

Hey!

When you say “Namjoons” lovers in cmar what do you mean by that? I’m confused because in all the chapters I read so far it’s not stated what kind of relationship he has with the 6 men. Is it romantic? Platonic or sexual? So he’s bisexual? And he married the OC knowing he’s in a relationship with all 6? Did it not bother her? To know she’s sharing him with so many men?

Sorry I just discovered this amazing fic 2 days ago and have been obsessed and confused 😂😂

to start off, y/n and namjoon got into an arranged marriage, meaning no feelings were involved. the marriage occurred only for political reasons so whether either of them were involved with others did not concern one another.

it was actually stated, a good few times, of the sort of relationship namjoon has with the other boys.

when you return to the scene where they first met formally (chapter 2), namjoon actually verbally stated that he had lovers, six of them, implying that they were the boys. it was the very first thing he ever said to her, and because the marriage was an arrangement for political reasons, y/n agreed to his two terms of respecting his relationship outside the two of them, as well as understanding that she can't expect love from him (though obviously he had a change of heart as the story progressed). so she wasn't "sharing" him per se, because she didn't go into the marriage wanting to love him or expecting him to love her.

there was also another scene in chapter 3 where y/n was talking to a tipsy namjoon that also stated that he and the boys are in a relationship. her words exactly stating: "Well in our circumstance, we’d have to consider your other six lovers, right? You love them dearly just as they love you. So wouldn’t I just be a thorn in the flesh?"

there's also chapter 4 where y/n meets the boys again after ten years and this narrative in her perspective stating: "Kim Namjoon and his lovers right behind him"

there are more examples but i'm sure you get it now and probably just read over the words and didn't realize what was happening.

the seven of them are involved romantically so i can confirm that yes, the boys are all bi. they're all in one big polyamorous relationship with each other. y/n loved them all equally and they all loved her in the same way they loved one another, hence it had hurt a lot when namjoon later disregarded her and she was forced to file for divorce. legally on papers, namjoon and y/n were married, but they were in a poly relationship with each other and the boys

[aroclan]

really irritated at a 'radical' thing i am reading where the author is upset at 'mainstream gays' promoting marriage equality and getting into the system. there are serious points of interest like, "straights accept gays only because they view gayness as biologically pre-determined."

but then he pivots into "this is incorrect because everyone is gay, by which i mean, bisexual, under which i include 1-5 on the Kinsey scale, and also anyone identifying as pansexual, asexual, and polyamorous. and furthermore, because people at 0 and 6 have curiosity/fantasies, i deny their claim of 0 or 6."

ok, boomer.

[gwenthebard]

You know it might just be me or just experiences putting a bad taste in my mouth, but I really fucking hate "marriage will hold up in court, so important over qpr and polyamory to do" Because like, yeah, marriage has a lot of important benefits and legal things. But, I hate it usually comes back to "thus you should perform marriage, rather than have an unconventional relationship," rather than, "it's fucked up how our culture and society prioritizes monogamous romantic relationships over anything else"

Like this isn't to say that getting married doesn't have benefits, or has important legal shit going on. This is to say it's fucked up how marriage is prioritised and structured.

Because like, marriage isn't just a contract it's not just a legal state. It's culturally a monogamous and romantic structure that is seen a very specific way. It's something where it can mean different things to different people, and there are people who can marry platonically or still have non-monogamous relationships, but not everyone and often not in the same way

The way it changes outside perception culturally is huge, and something where deviating outside the norm is looked on badly. The way language works, it automatically tries to put the idea of married couples on a higher plane. Literally look at any polyamorous couple in media or history that ends up being "married couple still involved with others".

Three people will live together their entire life, exchange shows of love even if not rings, and people will still be like "husband x and wife y, and their girl/boyfriend z". For a lot of people that's fine, but it's also a point on how outside perceptions can look on the relationship. These people could all love each other equally, literally refer to each other as spouses in cases, but because they lack a legal connection even with this knowledge people will still try to downplay an aspect of the relationship

I feel like this especially bothers me because like, I grew up when gay people were starting to become commonly accepted but before same sex marriage was legalized. And like, literally the same arguments against polyamory and queer platonic relationships I see are what I was told about gay marriage.

It wasn't legal to get married as a gay person in my state until 2014. That is most of my life, and I grew up in the 2000s where like the idea of being gay had some more acceptance. Still, I straight up had even teachers tell us it was a bad idea to be gay, because you couldn't get married

In like, Elementary School and Middle school, barely knowing what gay was in the former case, teachers would say this. We had a discussion in like 6th grade where it got brought up how if you got into a same sex relationship it was probably a bad long term thing because you wouldn't have benefits of getting married one day. Like not as a "this is wrong and something that should change," way, but as a fucking warning against relationships

I think this is why the idea leaves such a bad taste in my mouth, because this is the same shit I hear now about polyamory or QPRs. "it won't hold up in court," "you'll not be able to make medical decisions or stay with kids," "you can get fired without recourse" and just like,

This is the same shit I got told about being gay as a kid and early teen?

Why is it more important to uphold the monogamous and romantic structure of marriage, rather than accept that there are different relationships?

Like, yeah, it's fucked up how this stuff won't stand in court or how there's so few protections. Doesn't mean I'm not polyamorous, it makes me mad there's not a recognition of it. It makes me mad Queerplatonic People need to adapt romantic institutions to fit their non-romantic relationships.

Saying Marriage doesn't need to be romantic or as a "love you the most" institution also just, kinda ignores the complete culture around it? Like, yeah, on paper it's just words and it's just a contract, but that's not changing how people see it. That's not changing the fact I'd find myself hard pressed to ever want to actually marry someone on paper, because I don't like the cultural implications of it in the modern day

This isn't trying to say marriage isn't an important thing to a lot of people, and it definitely is. Marriage equality is important, and right now it's a big deal for disabled people who often aren't allowed to get married without losing a lot of support. The thing is though, why the fuck is marriage the most important thing in our culture?

why aren't there more options for people to declare the same intent otherwise? Why is society building so many benefits around an institution is upholds culturally as "monogamous and romantic" and looks down on for deviating outside? Like it's fucked up is what it is, not an argument for marriage as a consolation

Angry rant brought to you by: me seeing the exact same argument against non-monogamous non-romantic ( even just relationships-not-wanting-to-marry) relationships as I heard against gay ones in the era of "more accepted, not legal" and seeing red