#listener!martyn

[marsmarbles]

Listener!Martyn - The Heart Acoustic

“See how it hurts when the sound

begins to ring

And you feel it start to rot

And you beg for it to stop

But you’ve already dug your lot

In the ground”

[mothofprophecy]

[pluto-glow]

HEY ANYONE ELSE REMEMBER A COUPLE LIFE SMP SEASONS BACK WHEN A WATCHER MADE A COMMENT ABOUT MARTYN BEING MORE OF A LISTENER

looks at his super power from this session

[burdigel]

More More More Theories Part.7

So after the events of Evolution SMP, the Watchers as an organisation were and are still perceived as an evil presence that hurt and kidnapped the players of the Life Series. Starting with the indoctrination of Grian into the Watchers at the end of his POV for Evo SMP.

But my theory is that the Watchers aren't inherently evil but just an ethereal presence that interfered too much with the lives of the players. Their actions such as punishing Grian and the other members for thier mischevious deeds during the earlier events of Evo and, indoctrinating Grian into becoming a member of the Watchers could be percieved as evil(and is commonly percieved as evil). But what if their actions were just to help them expand their presence and keep the players they were meant to "watch" in check.

And so because of their actions, they interfered too much resulting in a domino effect of the players discovering and exploring their presence developing in the Watchers being antagonised.

But this also dominoes to effect the Listeners seperate godly beings who deciede to exploit the situation and act as the "good" force by rescuing Martyn from the Watchers' interference and promoting him to be the like a frontman for the Listeners to display their good deeds. Further promoting the idea that the Watchers are evil and the Listeners are the good forces in the world of Evo and further.

Hiding the fact that these etheral beings are neither good or evil or, can be defined by words of mortals because of their actions taken during their lifetime. Their actions that can be loosely described as good or evil depends on the players or others viewing them and with their almost infinite life-span time streches rendering definte adjectives useless.

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pain this took 5hrs writers block be tought D:

[definitelynotshouting]

i am thinking of how life series martyn was talked to by the watchers after last life and they mentioned grian being a watcher in that discussion, that was probably an important part of the reveal after double life in hunger au

Oh for sure, that was a huge factor. I havent figured out exactly how that panned out quite yet, but i do know Martyn was 100% involved and also probably the catalyst to Grian getting found out. I think (tentatively, this isnt set in stone just yet) in this au he wasnt spoken to by the Watchers, but instead the Listener fused with him essentially sensed through the Greater Code that Grian wasnt actually a Player and relayed this information to Martyn, which caused him to start paying a bit more attention and ultimately alerted him to Grian being the common thread of the games they kept going through. I think that was the beginning of the end for Grian, and once Double Life was over, Martyn got on the fast track towards figuring things out.

[cassidy-cat-ghost]

Traffblr! I need your help

I'm working on a personal project and I have a question. Y'know tarot cards, right? What is Martyn?

Obviously we have:

Grian - The sun

Scott - The star

Pearl - The moon

Martyn - ?

Non-winners and others:

Jimmy - The fool

Scott and Jimmy - The lovers

I have other HCs but they're not important right now. I was thinking maybe Chariot for Martyn but I would love to hear other's thoughts and ideas. And befor I forget,, it's Listener Martyn.

[shepscapades]

I know Martyn hasn’t actually logged onto fantasy smp yet but. But. But. Do you hear me. Do you see my vision. Do y. Do. We could have it all

[pixxlotl]

Going with the "Grian is the one who designed this game as opposed to the others" headcanon, it makes you think about the superpowers he gave his friends, how they were all laughing and having fun in the beginning, and that was intentional. It goes to show that even when forced to design the death game his friends are put through (a punishment for trying to usurp the Watchers time and time again), he still cares. They all know he's the one who designed this game, and he hopes they realize the little mercies he's giving them.

He gives Cleo the power to bring people back from the dead, just so he can have a chance to see his best friend again.

He gives Pearl the power to fly, and hopes she appreciates having her wings back, if only for a short time.

Jimmy gets to go invisible because Grian knows the Watchers aren't happy with the curse being broken. He wants to protect him.

As for Martyn? Grian doesn't really know a lot about what's going on with him and the Listeners, but he might as well try to strengthen that connection in the little ways he can without arising suspicion.

He says it himself in the beginning, "let's not forget this is a PVP series," but it sounds hollow even to his own ears. It's pandering to the watching eyes, making them think the lighthearted fun is all unintentional.

He falls out of the sky with the wings he gave to Pearl, and he wonders if the Watchers are starting to catch on.

[liloinkoink]

one thing i think people get wrong about Martyn in the life series is he really isn’t loyal

like yeah, we all know him as the Hand, following the Red King as far as their shared grave, but that is… truly the outlier and not the norm with him

i mean, let’s take a brief look at other seasons. i can’t speak to Secret Life, as it came out when i was incredibly busy and i haven’t yet had time to watch it, but what about the others?

he won Limited Life because he’s a chronic traitor! he betrayed Scott, his ally for the whole season, so that he could win, and said he’d been planning it / wanting to do it the whole session. spent a whole season protecting and helping Scott, and laughed in his face to betray as soon as he saw a shot to do so

Double Life was a whole mess of Martyn and weird loyalties. just one example: he spent all of the first session hanging out with Pearl in favor of even looking for either of their soulmates, with no regard for how he’d been putting his soulmate in danger. when their soulmates dumped them due to being ignored all session and stormed off, he dumped Pearl just because. one session in and he’s betrayed both his soulmate and his day one alliance!

Last Life he teamed with the Southlanders and then made the Shadow Alliance in secret, so he was on two teams and never truly committed to either. he tried to kill Grian basically immediately when he got boogeyman, for example, and in the final fight he tried to lure Ren to himself by offering to team and then tried to blow Ren up

of course, i’m simplifying and ignoring a lot. he doesn’t earn the loyal reputation for nothing. he does a lot of things to help his teammates, like giving a life to Ren in Last Life, trying all season to win Cleo over for all of Double Life, or working to protect Scott for all of Limited Life. it’s not like Martyn doesn’t play the part of a loyal friend well, but, well.

the thing about Martyn is that he’s selfish. he’s basically always going to prioritize his own survival over anything else. he’s never going to roll over and die, especially not for another person. he’s good at looking loyal, because having allies will help you survive, and he knows making outright enemies is a bad idea. he knows he can’t make it obvious he’s a traitor, because then he’ll certainly be killed. but, when it comes down to the wire, he will generally bail at the last minute to save his own skin rather than protecting the people around him. when his loyalty is tested, nine times out of ten, he will not only fail, but do so completely without remorse

it doesnt take a lot to become Martyn’s ally, and once you’ve got a foot in the door, he will take his allegiances seriously (at least, to a point). but it takes effort to really earn Martyn’s trust. and, even when it looks like you have, there’s no guarantee he won’t yank the rug out from under you if he decides having you alive is more detrimental to his survival than seeing you dead

and yes, you can especially see all of this in Third Life. Martyn was absolutely not instantly ride or die for Ren—for a lot of the earlier episodes, he won’t say he’s on Ren’s team or that he lives at Ren’s base, and often tells other players he’s simply Ren’s employee rather than teammate and that he’s wandering or homeless. he trusts Ren so little due to Ren’s inability to keep a secret or stand up for himself that even Ren acknowledges in the third session that Martyn is probably going to leave him and find someone else. Martyn’s loyalty had to be earned, and it very nearly wasn’t. if Ren had taken a session more to grow a spine, Martyn probably would have left

but Ren became an ally that Martyn could rely on, who could stand up for himself and keep secrets. it became more beneficial to Martyn’s survival to have Ren around, so he stayed with Ren for the rest of the season, and committed hard to their kingdom. Ren earns Martyn’s trust by becoming a more dependable ally, and because of that, Ren earns Martyn’s loyalty…. probably

(half related, bc i want it in the post and i don’t know where to put it: after the execution, two sessions after Ren officially earns Martyn’s loyalty, Ren admits to being genuinely convinced Martyn was going to take him out of the series as soon as Ren gave him the chance!)

because yes, even here, even after Ren earns his trust and Ren trusts Martyn to execute him and they become King and Hand, Martyn was okay with killing Ren to save himself. Martyn has said he was going to betray Ren in the final session of Third Life. his entire plan was that when he and Ren hit the final 5, he was going to kill Ren. end Red Winter, usher in Red Spring. even the most loyal version of Martyn was a traitor!

now, you can decide for yourself if you believe he could have actually gone through with this—he and Ren were 6th and 7th out of the game, after all. maybe he wouldn’t have been able to steel himself. maybe his loyalty would have, for once, been too strong to kill Ren.

but it’s very possible that even the most loyal version of Martyn—the version of Martyn who has created this “loyal” image of Martyn in fanon—was only loyal because he died too soon to show his true colors

[radishearts]

Girls who don’t draw for like a week and have to relearn their artstyle it’s me Im girls this happens every few months 😔🙏

Anyways EVO/lifers crew bc I love them and. And. I watched Solarocks ‘Watcher, Tell me So I say.’ PMV (DEF RECCO. REALLY COOL).

[solargeist]

watchers and listeners

[marsmarbles]

We are those who speak…..

[map1e-1stru3]

I love this trope

[desolationcleo]

scrolling the comments section of martyn's video rn

[valverii]

guys can someone please explain the watcher/listener lore to me like i’m 5

[kingiune]

me and the devil,

walking side by side.