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Part 14! Oof, two birthday posts in a row! Promise it'll be something different next time (unless there's another birthday I'm forgetting...)
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#twitter au#roy and lians relationship is so special to me you have no idea#roy harper#arsenal dc#jason todd#the red hood#red hood#richard grayson#dick grayson#nightwing#oliver queen#green arrow#bruce wayne#batman#jayroy#lian harper#red hood and the outlaws#dc batfam#dc#batfam#batfamily twitter au
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Reading svsss really puts into perspective just how MIRACULOUSLY normal Hua Cheng turned out despite his arguably worse circumstances.
#obviously he's not NORMAL normal but for a man with an 800yo obsession he's very respectful of boundaries and relationships outside of him#the only individual he actually resents for wanting gege's attention is his own fkn scimitar#bro was white knuckle gripping his sanity the whole time#sat meditating in the kiln like “i am healthy i am wealthy i am rich i am that bitch if i take my god for granted i hope i die in a ditch”#this is not binghe bashing im genuinely amazed#heaven official's blessing#tian guan ci fu#tgcf#scum villain self saving system#svsss#mxtx#hua cheng#xie lian#hualian
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the jade of lan clan and white lotus of xianle seems to have a type
I've been waiting to see how long it takes for others to talk abt the sqq erasure 💀
#I ABSOLUTELY LOVE TO MAKE MXTX CHARACTER PARALLELS#the world said 'red flag' and they went 'yeah red looks good on him'#they dgaf actually they're here to be the gays in a scandalous relationship#tgcf#mdzs#tian guan ci fu#mo dao zu shi#heaven officials blessing#the grandmaster of demonic cultivation#mxtx#mo xiang tong xiu#heaven official's blessing#xie lian#lan wangji#lan zhan#shen qingqiu#svsss#scum villain's self saving system
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One of those Hua Cheng reverts to Wuming scenarios where Wuming comes to understand the that 1) He and Xie Lian are sexually and romantically entangled 2) Xie Lian is married to a ghost king named Hua Cheng. The conclusion he derives from this is that he is Xie Lian's lover?? servant he fucks sometimes?? some sort of concubine??? He is trying to figure out how legitimate their affair is.
#qtzl txt#heaven official's blessing#tgcf#what does this hua cheng think about their relationship??#at some point he develops the theory that hc married xie lian as a status symbol to say fuck you to heaven#and thus doesn't really care if xl has an affair#which works for him except his highness is not some ornament to keep#but then he also understands that xie lian had hard times so it's his fault for failing to providethat xl had to accept such an arrangement
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DP x DC: Ghost x Family
So, back on my cute romcom BS
So the premise. Dani, as Danny's speed grown clone, wasn't the most physically stable. Turns out, it's really hard to speed grow a clone, and even harder when ectoplasm is involved. There's not enough time for the structures to properly stabilize and that leaves the cellular structure pretty weak and prone to breaking down into goo. The ecto dejecto was just a temporary solution and other measures were needed
aka Dani had to essentially grow a body from scratch the old fashion way, so she's now physically her actual age minus a couple months
So Danny, at the age of 20, is the father of a 4 year old Dani and is trying to keep a low profile in Gotham. His and his daughter's existence is still illegal, and being the single father of a 4 year old ghost girl isn't exactly easy. Now Danny has to deal with the very real threat of CPS being called on him by a neighbor, and trying to get Dani into school without either of them having papers for their assumed identity of Danny and Dani Nightingale and money to by fake documents. He'd ask Tucker, but that requires braking radio silence and potentially putting a target on all three of their backs.
Danny, desperate, asks his neighbor Jason to pose as his significant other for a meeting. Jason agrees, but things escalated and frankly he's now emotionally invested and committing to the bit
So now he and Danny have legally been married for about 4 months according to the papers Babs made them. The fake ID, birth certificates, SSNs, and high school diploma for the Nightingales were simple enough for her to do, but man Jason is going to owe her a BIG favor for this.
They move in together, Dani goes to a good private school, Jason is effectively Danny's sugar daddy paying for a sizable chunk of all this, and they are committing to the loving married couple bit, which is hard to do when the new in-laws are detectives
The best part?
Danny has not figured out Jason is the Red Hood, and Jason doesn't know about the ghost stuff. The only one that does? Dani, and she is physically and mentally 4 and watching Jason and Danny fall in love
oh the shenanigans
OR
I've been watching SPY x FAMILY and just need the fake relationship/family turns into a real relationship/found family dynamic. Jason is basically Loid, Danny is pretty much Yor, Dani fills the role of Anya, and uncle Dick is Yuri, except he's doting on Dani.
Dick is a smart man, but I love the headcanon that Jason is his emotional blindspot. Jason? MY Littlewing? He couldn't possibly.
#danny phantom#dp x dc#dp x dc crossover#dp x dc prompt#writing prompt#writing#dpxdc#found family and fake relationship rolled into one#dani has two loving dads#plus she can be friends with Lian#Roy and Jason organizing little play dates#part because the girls are best friends but also because it is a convenient cover for Red hood and arsenal teamups
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Man I love Shi Qingxuan's friendship with Xie Lian. It doesn't come quite as naturally as his connection with Hua Cheng, but I honestly like that! They start off with decently favorable impressions of each other's moral standing, but they both have to work at really understanding the other person.
The shenanigans these two get into when investigating together are also fucking hilarious. Shi Qingxuan providing some much needed levity and his resources, while Xie Lian is usually able to remain fairly collected in stressful situations. Granted that's because of, you know, horrendous amounts of trauma, but it does make for a good team up!
He's one of the few heavenly officials who can call Xie Lian out for things and not sound like a dick. I've mentioned previously that I love him telling Xie Lian that he should never have taken this mission, and he was right! Ghost king or not that's his friend, and it's shitty that Xie Lian would accept this mission. And more importantly, he says that it's even shittier that Jun Wu would ask that of him! So this is the first criticism of Jun Wu that we ever get from someone in the heavens.
He truly gets that Hua Cheng is Xie Lian's friend, and that Xie Lian is in a terribly awkward position right now. He expresses guilty for starting the fight and fanning the flames! Because even if the mission ended up being rescuing his friend, he's also capable of recognizing that the heavens are in the wrong here. Hua Cheng has every right to deal with a spy as he sees fit! And he sees Xie Lian as a friend, and knows that Xie Lian's deeply hurt by having to stand in between his friends like this.
And the way he defends Xie Lian from Lang Qianqiu's accusations! That's his friend, how dare you accuse him of a massacre?! And you can tell Xie Lian appreciates the sentiment, even if he doesn't want the defense.
Xie Lian asking Shi Qingxuan to watch over Lan Ying and Banyue while he's under house arrest is such a big show of trust! But even though he does think Shi Qingxuan is a bit ridiculous at times, he's always trusted him to try and do right by other people.
#my post#meta#analysis#tgcf#tian guan ci fu#hob#heaven official's blessing#xie lian#shi qingxuan#shi Qingxuan being an entiely new friendhip and relationship for xie lian is so important actually#having at least one friend he doesnt have any bad history or memories with is something he desperately needs
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Just thinking about Dick freaking out over losing his title of best uncle to Jason.
Dick showing up to take Lian out and give Roy a break only to hear she's having a fun day with Jason
Dick walking into the room with the toy he knows Lian really wanted, only to find out Jason got it for her first.
Dick showing up to game night at Roy's only to find Jason already there.
Just Dick getting increasingly frustrated and his rival Jason having no clue well the the rest watch on in humor and exasperation. Roy finds the who thing hilarious.
Picturing it all coming to a head when Dick is babysitting Lian and she shows him a new photo they put up. Dick all dejectivly being like, "look, it's you and your favorite uncle."
The pure shock and joy he feels when Lian tells him he wrong and her favorite uncle is "you uncle Dickie, duh!"
The door opening and Lian shouting "Papa!" As dick turns to excitedly tell Roy what Lian said only to see it's Jason who's holding Lian.
Dick just bluescreening.
#dc#dick grayson#jason todd#roy harper#lian harper#batman#Roy being daddy and Jason is papa#Dick being oblivious to his baby bros relationship#nobody is gonna let Dick live this down#bright side is Dick still holds favorite Uncle title#Dick: I thought you were just really good friends#Jasons always there because he lives there half the time.#what's the point of having a rich Bruce if you can't abuse his money and tech to “work” in Gotham well still living with his boyfriend.#dick cries when jason asks him to go with him to pick out a ring#dick cries again when Roy does the same#dick: omg im living in a Hallmark movie rn#part two: features the battle for Grayson. aka both want him as their best man.#i wish i could edit tags because my grammar seems to fail me whenever I write in them.#my posts#jason todd x roy harper#royjay#royjoy#idk
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saw a fic that made lian call dick "her fav uncle's brother" and i-
#what do you even say at this point#like#what can you even say?#at one point u gotta figure out if its worth it#to interject about how wrong they are#i really dont care about jason and lian's relationship#like okay make him take care of lian if u wanna#but aint no way she would refer to dick as her uncle's brother? lmao what???#dick grayson#i am not tagging lian harper bc yall who want stuff about her itself are probably like suffering with nothing being mainly about her#nightwing#dc#dc comics
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"I hope you understand that i'm too old to give you any pieces of advice", says weird man in old worn out white clothing. No chance he belongs to this world. What a mess.
"That's great, because I wouldn't listen to any", Luo Binghe simply answers.
inspired by this post
#svsss#luo binghe#tgcf#xie lian#mxtx#the most epic crossover i've ever done#xl due to his worst ever luck gets to svsss world and lbh has to use xin mo to bring him back#why? simply bc he gets tired of people trying to invade his world#why didn't kill him? he seemed too interesting to be killed#again it was a little brainrot caused by that post about xl and lbh possible communication#they're literally characters created to be with their canon partners so i can't see them in any romantic relationships#but them having a little talk would be hilarious
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It's the 2 month anniversary of this blog! Here's all the main MTXT couples to celebrate.
#Poorly drawn MDZS#MDZS#wei wuxian#lan wangji#SVSSS#shen qingqiu#luo binghe#TGCF#xie lian#hua cheng#san lang#Per semi-popular request (people wanted to see the other MXTX characters in my style). I hope you are satisfied#the SVSSS dialogue is a quote from yagrandmapeach's disco elysium comic series (also huge shout out to said artist)#I tried very hard to find the comic so I could link it but alas B*(#lwj and wwx are freak for freak and we know this#and biblically accurate xie lian might get me thrown into the flames but...I'm right. he's ripped.#Not even twunky ripped but full on shredded.#I also fully stand by my hua cheng. He talks up his real form as being 'ohhh so monstrous' just to be....slightly taller with an eye patch?#BOO!!!! I want him to be uncanny!!! I want him lanky and inhuman!#Xie lian deserves to be a monsterfucker!!!!!! It also fully goes with the themes of their relationship so!!! Why not!!!#the TGCF crew doesn't have a text joke because I got rid of it (it was “guys with the same BMI be like:”)#It just didn't fit B*(#'op which of these couples do you like best'#You will have to pin me down and waterboard me for that answer#All this aside!!! thank you guys so much for a wild and beautiful 2 months!
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another reason i think that xie lian felt an instant connection on the ox cart is because he and hua cheng both grew up in xianle.
there are maybe 4 people still alive that grew up in that culture. based on my own experience, you can pick up on things like accent, cadence, references, and humor that suggest a person is from the same place as you without consciously noticing it. that sense of comfort and similarity probably played into their instant chemistry.
#thinking about how they are bonded together by being the only people who remember their dead culture... augh it kind of makes me want to cr#as much fighting as fengqing do they are really the only people who will EVER understand each other's childhoods#which. aughhhh#there's a lovely modern au fic by heavensturtle called ''i'm just there to admire you.'' where they talk about chinese diaspora go read it#fics that mention paradise manor being in the xianle style also make me want to bawl. especially when fxmq notice it#other people that remember xianle: qi rong. jun wu. mei nianqing. yeah. none of those people are easy to talk to#buried deep in the xianle quartets heads are things like xianxia silly bands and xianxia nickelodeon and xianxia hi chew that LITERALLY#NOBODY ELSE IN THE ENTIRE WORLD REMEMBERS. DOES THAT NOT MAKE YOU FEEL INSANE#the immortality in tgcf and how it affects memory and sense of self and relationships. ourgh#i speak#tgcf meta#tgcf#tgcf spoilers#i guess?#tian guan ci fu#tgcf books#heaven official's blessing#hob#xie lian#hua cheng#hualian#feng xin#mu qing#fengqing#xianle trio#xianle quartet
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gosh writing this fic makes me love dick grayson and roy harpers relationship sm!! ach mon
#a rarepair that only become a rarepair post-flashpoint is truly so painful#spokes#dickroy#both of them having important relationships external to each other. they both have families. they both love lian.#they both hate each others fathers#roy harpers inferiority complex + abandonment issues vs. dick graysons martyr complex and fear of losing control fight fight fight#sorry ill stop post wip screenies but also........ i cannae stop tjinking about them (two mentally ill men who should kiss)#persephone tag
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Jun Wu: When are you going to stop running?! I've captured you like seventeen different times!
Xie Lian: I feel like it’s going to be at least eighteen.
#source: snapcube#incorrect quotes#incorrect tgcf#heaven official's blessing#tgcf#xie lian#Jun Wu#I still haven’t finished tgcf this is their relationship right?
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one of the things that gets lost in a lot of the discussions around tgcf is that hua cheng knows xie lian can take care of himself. xie lian knows he can take care of himself. although he's had 800 years of bad luck, that's different than not knowing how to take care of yourself. not just that, throughout the whole book, especially the flashbacks, shows how xie lian tries to shoulder all the weight of the world by himself. hua cheng just shows him that he doesn't have to do go through it alone
#heaven officials blessing#tgcf#hualian#heaven official's blessing#xie lian#hua cheng#mxtx#there's too much discourse about their relationship#crazy shit
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Me: yeah so this fanfic is a slow burn about Roy and Jason falling slowly but deeply in love with eachother, learning to see past their projections and defensive walls and discovering tenderness within eachother, all symbolized through the horse movie tropes and a sideplot of the horses falling in love because apparently I have a public to please.
My word doc, mysteriously: Cheshire was so beautiful. Jade Nguyen breathed air and it was extremely aesthetically pleasing. Her skin, clear of any blemish, seemed to soften the shape of the atmosphere. The curve of her eyelids curled like a shadow over her deep dark eyed that seemed to captivate the light. Her lips parted, fascinating glimpse of breath, and it was like her voice was a lifeline, a silver thread to hold onto and breathe out in tune as he stood at the frontier of her horizon of events.
#to be clear this is still a jayroy story#this paraphrasing isn't even from a roy pov#i said “let me include a civilian non villainous version of Jade in this AU as a side-character and explore her roy and lian's relationship#my lesbian ass did NOT consider the risks#horse movie au#jayroy horse movie#jayroy#the horses are still not the main paring in this one#dc#dc comics#jason todd#red hood#arsenal#red hood/arsenal#also side note: jade has a horse named cheshire but this isn't what's talked about here#jade is also sometimes called Cheshire in this story for reasons#so cheshire the horse and cheshire the woman both exist in this AU#still nobody simping over a horse here#except arsenal the horse. homefoal is down bad for his ill-mannered lady. neigh
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What HuaLian mean to each other...
A handwritten note from TGCF AD's production
Currently TL-ing the BTS of the AD production, and I came across this tidbit that I want to share. I'm pretty sure Zhang Kai (张凯) wrote this; she is also the voice-acting director for the production. And the other crew members mention this in the video, but Zhang Kai has a penchant for using vocabulary that just strikes a chord. I think here she was writing a note for the production team, and it just beautifully dives into how Xie Lian acts around others VS how he acts around Hua Cheng.
I'll include the original CN that she wrote and the image I pulled it from below as well :)
谢怜在对花城和对别人对话时,需要有明显的氛围差异。 谢怜虽然温柔善良,但人被伤害就会痛苦,这种痛苦不会因为他的温柔善良而減少,反而有可能因此而呈现更大的伤害。 为了抑制这种伤害对自己的心性造成的影响,类似脱敏疗法,他提高了自已承受伤害能力的阈值,使自己对各种形式的伤害,包括对自己本身的侮辱失去敏感度。所以我们现在能看到的是一个不太在乎旁人议论言语和身体疼病的谢怜,这其实是他的自我保护机制。 但在花城面前,这个自我保护机制自己失灵了。谢怜重新变回了一个敏感度非常高的“人”。原文说“不知道为什么,他在花城面前好像藏不住痛”。如果面前的人换一个,相信他还是能以一种近于麻木的态度处理生理上的疼病,但因为面前的人是花城,他被打回了原形。 花城面前的谢怜,是一个更加鲜活的谢怜,会窘迫脸红,会语无伦次,感觉自己修练800年的脸皮也不够用,需要有一点微妙的“破防”感。但对风信慕情就很游刃有余,甚至对南风扶摇,多少有点暗暗逗弄的意思。 总之,花怜对彼此都是最特别的存在!
Translation:
There needs to be an obvious atmospheric difference when Xie Lian talks to Hua Cheng versus with other people.
Xie Lian may be gentle and kind, but anyone would feel pain when one is hurt, and this kind of pain wouldn't just lessen because of his natural gentleness and kindness. In fact, it might, in turn, create an even bigger wound.
To control the effect that this hurt has on his own psyche, like a sort of desensitising treatment, he raises his threshold on his ability to withstand pain. He causes all kinds of damage to himself, including forgoing the sensitivity to his own humiliation. Thus, the Xie Lian we can see now is someone who does not care much for others' opinions or his own bodily harm. This is actually his self-made defence mechanism.
However, in front of Hua Cheng, this defence mechanism becomes defective. Xie Lian reverts back into a very sensitive "human being." The original texts said, "For some reason, he's unable to hide his pain in front of Hua Cheng." If the person before him was switched, you can trust that he could still adopt a sort of near-numb attitude to deal with physical pain. But because the person before him is Hua Cheng, he has returned to his original self.
The Xie Lian in front of Hua Cheng is a more vivid Xie Lian. He will flush with embarrassment, speak incoherently, and feel that even after 800 years of cultivation, his skin is still not thick enough to be useful. There needs to be a subtle feeling of "breaking down his defences."
Yet, he handles everything with skill and ease when it comes to Feng Xin and Mu Qing. Even with Nan Feng and Fu Yao, there's an element of underlying teasing.
In conclusion, HuaLian are each other's most precious existence!
#tgcf#hualian#tian guan ci fu#tgcf meta#xie lian#hua cheng#tgcf translation#heaven official's blessing#relationship analysis#天官赐福#花怜#tgcf audio drama
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