#keefe this keefe that it’s like I get it
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Yes I saw!!! Honestly the songs fit soooo well too! (I hope one day we get to see the characters canonically listen to Taylor Swift, especially Keefe I feel like he'd be a swiftie,,, maybe)
currently reading: keeper of the lost cities - exile!!!
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If I’m being completely honest… and please don’t hate me for this I thought this a long time ago and I don’t know if I still do but… I stopped reading Kotlc when it became too much about angsty/sad Keefe and not enough everyone else
Edit: this is not an anti keefe post. I love keefe.
#and I was in 5th grade okay#this was many years ago#or well I started it in 5th grade#idk when I stopped but this was why#I just remember there being keefe every two sentences#and he became too angst for my liking back then#he had every right to be angsty but it killed the mood for me#I was there for good vibes#and we barely got to see about anyone else I think#that’s probably not true but it’s what I thought at the time#Sophie was always thinking about keefe#keefe this keefe that it’s like I get it#I love him but can we go back to the plot please#keefe sencen#would I think the same of I read it now? who knows but it’s why I stopped in the first place#kotlc keefe#kotlc#keeper of the lost cities characters#keeper of the lose cities#kotlc stellarlune#kotlc hot takes#sophie foster#kotlc neverseen#kotlc black swan#to be clear this is not anti keefe#I love keefe#I love him so much#I love sokeefe#I just don’t love this
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i don’t care if you don’t like fitz as a character. i really don’t. you’re allowed to dislike a character.
but if you hate him just because he’s getting in the way of your sokeefe it’s ON. SIGHT.
#kotlc#keeper of the lost cities#fitz vacker#keefe sencen#sophie foster#kotlc fitz#only disliking a character because they ruin a ship makes me not like you!!#ship sokeefe as much as you want I love them too but please be nice to my little baker boy#if you dislike a character it can be for any reason OTHER than them getting in the way of your ship
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It's fun to bemoan the odd lines and such, and I was gonna make a joke, but I do think it is genuinely sad how much of Unraveled's promo is leaning so heavily into shipping.
Not because I hate sokeefe or Keefe, but because this is such a massively popular story that has so much to offer outside of a single ship, and it's such a disservice to the years of work Shannon has put in to crafting these characters' stories and world. And to the countless fans who adore the story and characters outside of this single ship.
Both Sophie and Keefe are more than sokeefe, and the way this story about injustice, and rebellion, and loss of self, and grief is being overshadowed by a relationship? See the kiss scene! sokeefe art! foster-related quote! These things themselves aren't bad, but there's no balance; they should be part of more, not the whole thing. KOTLC deserves to retain its complexity in marketing! The readers, including young, deserve to have the story not watered down for them when it's being pushed!
There's also something about how publishers told Shannon KOTLC wouldn't sell because Sophie's a girl, and she pushed through that, only for Sophie to become almost an accessory to Keefe's story here? Making appearances that focus on what Keefe thinks of her instead of Sophie herself. I don't have this fully articulated, but hopefully you see what I'm getting at
Shannon's said for years she hates love triangles, didn't mean to write one, and tries to stay firmly Team Sophie. And I believe her, which makes it worse seeing how despite Shannon's efforts, her story about a brave, stubborn, reckless, passionate girl trying to find herself and do what she can to right the wrongs she sees in the world is getting pared down to a love story.
Now we do have six more weeks to go, so we could get some variety in the future. it's just frustrating so far, and as fun as it is to make silly little jokes about it, I do think there is a genuine critique here of publishing and marketing and treatment of female led stories (yes, unraveled is about keefe, but Keeper is about Sophie), and I wanted to say something
#kotlc#kotlc discourse#long post#i was gonna make a joke poll like 'how many non sokeefe related promos do you think we'll get: 0. 1. 5+ y'all are too negative'#or something. and then I was like. Hey Wait A Minute#this is like. actually a reflection of something bigger#and a legitimate hesitation i'm having with the promo#like i said we do still have 6 weeks. but also. so much has had a touch of shipping#a disproportionate amount#and its starting to build a pattern i'm not thrilled with#again. NOT because of keefe or sokeefe hate#but because it's insulting to the story and readers to reduce everything to sokeefe#and i hate to see the publishers falling into that#to make money
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with the amount that the main series dunks on the forbidden cities i would just love for unraveled to be just an unabashed celebration of humanity. like yes there is poverty and pollution and crime but also there is dancing and music and rollercoasters and scary movies. let keefe discover the beauty here! the first book was all about the wonder of the lost cities but unraveled could be all about the wonder of the forbidden cities
#i just have such a hard time with how much the series dunks on humans#which understandably so#but i just want unraveled to enjoy the forbidden cities#like if i have to read a book of keefe just being like “this food is garbage and the air smells bad and it sucks”#it would get really tired#i think there is an inherent life to humanity that the lost cities lack#there is no drive to live excitingly when you live forever because you don't have to squeeze as much as you can in#let keefe get a taste of that!!!!#its something that would SO lend itself to his character#as someone who was chronically punished as a child for being too much#LET HIM BE MUCH WITH HUMANITY#maybe all these tags should be in the post but eh#this is where i prefer to cook lol#kotlc#kotlc unraveled
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None of ya'll are ready to admit the fact that 9.5 (IF DONE WELL) is the perfect way to finally put a greater focus on the problems of Elvin Government, matchmaking systems, etc. Like???? Can you imagine Keefe finding out that most juveniles cannot be tried and treated as adults in some countries and wondering how beneficial a system like that would have been for, like, YOU KNOW, Lihn?
#I get that ya'll hate Keefe but it's not like the book is going to be meaningless#now it depends on how Shannon writes it#but it has a lot of potentail#keeper of the lost cities#kotlc#kotlc fandom#keefe sencen#kotlc keefe
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lodestar
#lodestar is so message in a bottle#bc notes and transmitting are all they can do#standing here hoping it gets to you??#ok is this giving cool pretty mystical dream world or hot mess#is it obvious i like pink#sokeefe#kotlc#keeper of the lost cities#kotlc fandom#keeperofthelostcities#kotlc thoughts#keeper of the lost cites fanart#kotlc fanart#my art#kotlc art#sophie foster#keefe sencen#sokeefe art#keeper of the lost cities art#sokeefe fanart
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Rereading neverseen to distract from illness and stumbled across this daily reminder that keefe definitely absolutely 100% infantilizes sophie because that is definitely what’s happening in this image. Look at him totally treating her like a helpless child. An argument that makes lots of sense for sure.
#kotlc#keefe sencen#the infantilization argument#this post is SARCASTIC if you couldn’t tell#HE LITERALLY HELPS HER HERE#BY BEING EXTRA CONFIDENT IN HER ABILITIES#LIKE LITERALLY MORESO THAN THE REST OF HER FRIENDS WHO TOTALLY TRUST HER#like I don’t understand what some people do not get about this
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It’s my birthday and I can share it with Zim if I want to!
#invader zim#zim#dib membrane#zadr#I guess I’m just going to draw zadr for my birthday every year now#I like the idea that Dib just decided on a birthday for Zim#Zim is both incredibly pleased and disgusted to be the center of attention like this#especially when Gaz is sneaking pictures of him out of his disguise for quote ‘memories or whatever’ end quote#dib is determined to make it as embarrassing as possible as is his right#keef gets him the most thoughtful hypoallergenic bedset so it doesn’t hurt his skin and because he is an angel#gir made him a card and Gaz got him a gameslave 5#skoodge has gotten him some kind of radioactive weapon even though he doesn’t understand what a hatchday party is#I am not at liberty to say what Dib ‘got’ him as a present on this Christian Roblox server#but assume it is sexy#the brainrot is terminal#chellos art tag
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after fitz cools off a little bit about sophie and keefe being a thing, he should drop tidbits about keefe (mostly during trust exercises) that he thinks she might find helpful since they're dating.
the thing is, instead of just stuff like, 'keefe loves frogs, so he might appreciate a gift or trip related to them, idk' he also drops things like 'btw if you just hold his hand in your hands - specifically towards the back of his head, just behind his ears - while you're talking to him, he'll probably melt haha. also his scalp is sensitive, do with that what you will, but make sure you're gentle'.
bonus points if sophie asks keefe about why every single tidbit fitz gives is correct and he goes tomato red for the first time ever and sputters out something like 'i gave fitz the lord of the snuggles title based on personal experience - he's clingy when he's tired, ok?'
#take the rest where you will but. i just thought it was funny. dating coach fitz but he's only useful when it's keefe#sokeefe#sophie foster#keefe sencen#keefitz#fitz vacker#kotlc#keeper of the lost cities#kotlc fic idea#could also be sokeefitz. if you want. (i want.)#also bringing biana into this might be hilarious. team valiant meeting disperses and sophie's like 'hey...why does your brother know so muc#about keefe's preferences in physical affection?'#and she's like. 'oh yeah keefe always pretended fitz was forcing him into being a hugger and stuff but he was just as bad as fitz#like if anyone else sat closer to fitz at aurenflares than him he'd get huffy because it meant fitz would fall asleep on someone else and#he'd get SUPER jealous. don't ask keefe about it though he'll never admit to any of it'#or something like that
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why is everyone so shocked at how cringy the unraveled line is, though. like this is par for the course when it comes to keefe. i could pull like sixteen different lines from various books that are at this same level of cringe. this is what he consistently sounds like
#i get being weird about the sokeefe angle they're pushing. but the actual line construction itself? keefe is the king of cringe you guys#this is normal for him. 90% of his dialogue sounds like this#kotlc keefe#anti keefe sencen#<- jic#kotlc unraveled#unraveled#kotlc
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migrainecore
#you dont get the complexities of the dynamic like i do (i made it up)#tried a thing w the shading i dont know#keeper of the lost cities fanart#kotlc#kam kotlc#kotlc fanart#keefe sencen#tam song#kotlc kam
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reblog if you love both Keefe and the other characters equally (or to an extent equally).
#kotlc is a series filled with diverse and amazing characters#but...#hating one character cuz they're overrated in the fandom is not cool#cuz Keefe is an amazing character#just like the rest#i get that many people in the fandom do overlook the potential of powers of characters like tam and marella and DEX#while they worship Keefe#but that isnt necessarily the character's fault#it's the fandom's perception that is wrong#just saying cuz i have seen a lot of people unnecessarily criticize keefe#for being overrated#thanks for suffering the rambling if you have made it to this lol#keefe scencen#sophie foster#kotlc sophie#kotlc keefe#sokeefe#keeper of the lost cities#kotlc#keefe sencen#tam song#linh song#dex dizzneee#fitz vacker#biana vacker#alvar vacker#alden vacker#the vackers#della vacker#grady ruewen
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Stay at home dad and artist on commission Keefe
#kotlc#keeper of the lost cities#keefe sencen#sokeefe#he watches him and sophie's 5 year old little boy and 11 year old girl (she's currently applying for Foxfire) while sophie works#he does his own art pieces along with commissions at home#and the little boy can teleport so he's constantly dropping in on sophie and fitz at their job#(it's related to them being cognates or something idk)#and keefe has a panic attack because he looked away for one second to add a detail to his sketch and now his kid's gone#their kid drops into sophie's arms (or right outside the door of the building she works at)#and sophie gives him an eye roll and a disappointed look for freaking his father out and interrupting her#(he has absolutely appeared when she was in a super important meeting)#this is all based on the assumption that elves don't have some kind of basic schooling before foxfire or other schools like it#when he appears back at their residence (their leapmaster floor has an open roof for teleportation)#keefe is standing there frantically ready to catch him#and their girl (im shit with names) is standing there giving him a look like “I thought you weren't scared of anything”#and he's just caught the kid and is trying to rock him to sleep cause teleporting is tiring for a 5 year old#but he humors her while walking down the hall to his bedroom#“who said i wasn't?” “i do” “why?”#“nobody who actually beat an ogre would be scared of their child teleporting away”#“you'd be surprised”#(she doesn't beleive he actually fought dimitar and thinks it's an elaborate inside joke between sophie him and queen ro)#so they keep going back and forth with him being vague about the details because while he did beat dimitar#he is absolutely exaggerating all the details#“keefe you can't tell our kids you punched dimitar and he immediately surrendered” “please” “no”#and then they get to his room on the second floor and he shushes her so he can place the sleeping boy in his bed#i have so many thoughts about future sokeefe actually
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Woah Keefe is so emotionally manipulative. Not like he got raised in a horrible household where being emotionally abused was the norm. Not like half of his ‘insulting’ things were just bad attempts to make people laugh because in his mind that’s one of the only things he’s good at. Not like he probably cries thinking about all the times he hurt people without even meaning to. Not like he says things that come across as manipulative without him meaning it to because again, saying things like that are normal to him. Not like he would do anything for his friends. Not like most of his decisions, in his mind at least, were to benefit everyone else. Not like he would probably rather die than be like his father. Of course not, that’s ridiculous!
#it’s two am I have lots of feelings about Keefe eek#this is just me saying my thoughts!!#Please don’t argue with me I will cry#ALSO#this isn’t me saying you’re not allowed to like Keefe BECAUSE YOURE ALLOWED TO HAVE OPINIONS#I think it’s just weird how people try to hate on him for things like this#Like his traumatic childhood affected him?? That’s crazy!#Can you tell how scared I am for getting hated on lmao#Well ANYWAYS time for the normal tags#kotlc#lexi says stuff#keefe sencen#keefe#kotlc discourse#<- idk if that’s really appropriate?? Idk I’ve seen people talking about Keefe a lot and arguing and stuff so I think it works#kotlc keefe#keefe kotlc
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keefe was actually insane for this
#I've been slandering keefe a lot lately so.... here's some keefe appreciation!#ok but srsly#other than sophie obviously being the main unfortunate victim#keefe is also a victim with the way the fandom barely pays any attention to his character and only focuses on his good looks and sokeefe#like yes he is loved but do y'all ever see people actually CARING about his character?? other than yk...sokeefe#don't come at me for this one i know shannon has been focusing the last few books on him#but im deadass serious when i say that barely anyone talks about his character as a whole#keefe is genuinely an incredibly cool character#and i legit screamed when i read this part#“I could keep it with the jewel I sliced out of Dimitar’s ear when I beat him at sparring.“ is SO CUNTY LIKE#the girls who get it get it#kotlc#keeper of the lost cities#keefe sencen#kotlc flashback
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