#just stuff i've seen over time and have discussed w others

[nonbinarysurge]

not sure if this is a hot take or not but the way surge is spoken about by the fandom really brings out the worst of it's misogyny.

i'm constantly seeing people call her a brat, a crybaby, etc. or how they want (x character) to beat her up and humble her. and like, sure, at first impression you could say it's because she's a villain and a bad person. but then you look at how every other male villain of a similar or worse degree is treated and the difference is pretty clear!

but when you bring this up and people will tell you it's nothing to do with misogyny! but this sort of language, while it may not be explicit, is the exact sort of stuff you see against both real and fictional women constantly. and it really just makes me wonder how differently people would think of her had she been a boy?

idk. i don't have any real point with this post. i'm just complaining

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oh my days did u hear about wilbur soot literally physically abusing shelby

YESYESYES I DID!!!

For the girlies that don't know: I was a minecraft girlie in 2021.

And Wilbur Soot was a big part of that MC phase. He was undeniably hot, but he was also quite open ab mental health stuffs + created quite a safe space for minorities whether that be the gay community, mental health talking space... That's all from the top of my head. In short - he's hot and an empath and ppl liked that ab him

He also kinda showed his "quirky loco character" in music vids or just in streams.

Kinda ironic he's now fulfilling the role that character he mockingly made, tho.

What did he do? Well, he was in a relationship w Shelby Shubble and his way of showing "affection" would be to bite her. Kinda understand biting as a way of showing love as long as it's not life threatening, painful, or in aggression... I mean, ChrisMD does that shit all the time to ArthurTV n it seems more endearing than to really do any bads.

Thing is, Wilbur would end up hurting Shelby. Aaaand so Wil said 'hey let's make a safeword for u 2 say when it hurts so that ik and can stop so i don't harm u'.... but when Shelby used that safeword, broski wuld either grind down or go a lil bit harder b4 letting go.

And Shelby's described it as she would oftentimes scream/yell bc it was so hard, and he'd 'smile' afterwards which is mad psycho (term used loosely) imo. Because also, he'd do ts in public??? Yk, with his friendship group around him n Shelby, the lovely jovely couple? Straight out weird negl.

So, there's context.

Lots of varying opinions online which i would soooo love to get into...

BUT DISCLAIMER BEFORE I DO: Realistically, this is abuse, and thus it is a crime. I've talked about this on my page before - cancel culture can be unecessary in minor incidences, and cancel culture can be not-enough in instances whereby people have simply done illegal things.

This is one of those illegal things. So, whilst I do chat about this light-heartedly or for entertainment, gossip-y purposes - do realise that this is a real life problem that has has major issues in many peoples' lives.

Now, continuing with the juicy waffley discussions that ppl like hearing:

So firstly, some of the Twitter memes are fucking hilarious. I do love that under Wilbur's Twitter apology, loads of MCYTers have joined to clown his goofy ahh. And all those memes saying that Bill smelled such a shit apology he returned to twitter after years + the DSMP are like Avengers in Infinity War returning to all fight enemy No1 WILBUR...

But that being said, DREAM REPLYING TOO????

I spoke ab Dream being a groomer around Christmas time + heard loads of ppl out on vouching for Dream or calling him disgusting, dahdahdah... But the fact that sm ppl are turning around and praising Dream for calling out Wilbur's goofiness is acc MAAAD.

Why's everyone forgotten Dream is j as goofy? And an alleged groomer? And just plain? Not even plain something, brodie is just the plainest mf i've ever seen. Ever since he face revealed, his personality j evaporated on out of his body (anyone feel this asw?)

But no, ppl who are now agreeing w Dream to combat Wilbur as if Dream hasn't also committed what is debateably a crime (ik he 'cleared up the rumours' but it's v hard to fight of groomer allegations when you let them sit and marinate for approx 6 months) is fucking WILD shit to me.

Secondly, people are analysing loads of Wilbur's other prev actions too and saying these should've been red flags to Wilbur being an a-hole before we even heard Shubble's solid proof.

And some of these clips of evidence (e.g. Niki saying Wil bites her + threw her, Tommy getting his hand stomped, throwing apple at Techno) feel very valid.

But other bits I do wonder - are they just being over analysed? Yk, like with the clip of Wil shouting at Tommy for streaming + stealing his wallet, i was super sure that was staged as is (j had it confirmed now by the Twitter community note asw lol) and also, whilst Wil's shouting does feel extreme and hurtful from a viewer pov... Having a wallet stolen, place of work broken in to, litr knowing the place where you work to make all income could be taken away from u bc a friend thought it funny to break in n loudly + rowdily stream... i gotta say that some form of anger or upset is valid there. And this isn't to validate Wilbur's assholery, this is just to point out that whilst ppl are throwing clips into the fire and saying "this is more proof Wil was a bad person from the start" - do try see other interpretations of it and form your own line of reasoning - yk - "is this a valid point or is this someone using the drama to get some extra likes and attention to boost their account" (because believe me, ppl would - if ppl would use Techno's death to get more channel views and interactions - ppl would also most definitely use abuse as a means to engage more ppl).

Aaaaaand let's talk about the little Lovejoy band. Ngl i fucken loved their stuff, quite sad to see it go down the drain because 3/4 of them are public targets, now.

So ik we hate Wil for being an abuser. And I've seen that ppl dislike Mark bc he supported Maccies (what did he do fr tho bc i have no clue - did he j eat a McDonalds or what?) And we hate Ash Kabosu for saying it's bad to make fun of those deaths on the submarine...

Controversial opinion but I don't blame Ash allat much??? Now imma explain myself - but pls understand that i don't knoe 100% ab the situation, im v detached from the MCYT sphere of the online community.

But hear me out.

I'm a big believer in cherishing life, life is v important, life is a blessing.... Not from a rly religious pov, moreso in a spiritual way. Because if we only get one life, fuck, it's pretty damn precious. And whilst all those Oceangate memes were haha heehee funny watches, at the end of the day, people did die. And I do find that quite sad.

People say it's fine to laugh and make fun of those who were in there and died bc they were just billionaires who went down there for their own personal entertainment.

Just because they're billionaires doesn't make them any less human than us? Sure, they have a lot more money and are probably a lot more detached from working class issues which the majority of the population faces... But their drowning will have hurt and caused just as much pain to them as it would to us if we were in their situation. And my god, I can't even begin to think about the pain their families must have felt.

Those deaths were a fucking tragedy, realistically - and maybe i'm 'overreacting' here - but c'mon, empathy is literally encoded into our DNA as humans, surely I'm not the only one that can see the heartlessness in just laughing and memeing those deaths?

So Ash Kabosu haterism I don't fully understand, is the conclusion of that sub-rant.

And then I think this is the final little bit I'll discuss considering this is a loooong post:

James Marriott.

Jimbo Mazza, Jimbatron, James Marriott.

Lowkey my big flex, I've been a fan of him since 2020, and I got into his hater-commentary content initially. And ngl, when he transitioned to Minecraft? It was so fkn obvious he was trying to tailor to the MCYT audience to get their approval and entrance into the MCYT community, it made me absolutely cringe - and the blindness of everybody to that fact was insane to me.

Like, he was literally beegggging to be added to SMPs, he'd try and portray this "uncontrollable, quirky" character and would be so "unhinged" that everyone would love him... But ngl, that shit was literal brainrot, and he had you guys (me included tbf, bc i'd watch - just cringing whilst watching) ROTTING your brains with spamming the chat w allat bs that u do on Twitch

Nowadays, I like James tho. I feel like he feels ingrained enough within the community to branch out and not have to play up to the disturbing, disgusting cringefest - and so now he's funnier and having a better time streaming.

I mean, he looks absolutely great too - his tours have him confidence-boosted (rightfully so), because he's in great shape, like, he's genuinely lost noticable fat and put on muscle which has him looking trim as ever - he's grown his hair out into a flattering mullet - Shit, i believe looksmaxxing is the boy-equivalent of the makeup industry profiting off of womens' insecurity....

But the Jimbatron has absolutely looksmaxxed for the best.

That being said however, people saying "I OFFER JIMBO AS A REPLACEMENT FOR WILBUR!!" are fucking weirdos (respectfully but also kinda not)

Bro has just abused people and you're mourning the loss of a content creator and oh no - your favourite band - so you're trying to serve up replacements like a fucking chef that's ran out of a specific ingredient??????????

Yeah, James is less problematic and has 2x the personality Wilbur has- BUT WHY DOES IT TAKE WILBUR COMING OUT AS A FKN ABUSER FOR PPL TO START PROMOTING JAMES????

This is like that whole thing whereby ppl put other girls down to point out to success or beauty of other girls: it takes everyone noticing how bad Wilbur is, to point out the goodness of James.

James litr banned people who wouldn't stfu about Wilbur in his chat in early streams, bc he was sick of ppl following him for Wilbur and who just wanted to talk about Wilbur on James' platform.... I don't think James rly wants to share an identity, or have his platform built from being against Wilbur.

Not proof read this post fully. But take-aways from this: -Yeah Dream is cooking Wilbur on Twitter but don't forget he's an alleged groomer + is deffo using this as a way to get back into the audience's "good books" -RIP Lovejoy but some1 explain what Mark did fully + why ppl think Ash is so abominable for showing empathy to ppl dying -Rmbr that this is acc a serious crime, don't downplay ts -Stop fucking promoting James Marriott thru Wilbur's downfall, it rly discredits James' authenticity and original building of a community -So proud to say that after a few months of getting into MCYT stuff i felt as though Wilbur was icky + just plainout didn't like him/got odd vibes -And lol, acc so jarring how Wil reminds me of this guy in my yr - complete mummy's boy, underestimates and belittles women bc his mum handed everything to him on a plate n so he doesn't empathise w them but rather expects the world from them whilst simultaneously treating them like shit, 'radical', extremely 'woke' about modern situations but is so stubborn and refuses to see two sides of a picture.... Tbh I might j hate the guy in my yr and be projecting that onto Wil

Btw, feel free to argue w me in my inbox ab this but whilst i was quite critical - pls do not be mean to me or criticise me that harshly - if im talking to some1 one on one, i won't be this mean

(ALSO ANON, SORRY BC I WAS QUITE RUDE IN THIS REPLY BC I LOWKEY FORGOT I WAS REPLYING TO U, I WAS IN MY OWN HEAD AB WAFFLING AB SHELBY N WILL, LY AND TY FOR ASKING AB IT THO BC I DEFFO NEEDED TO WAFFLE AB IT SOMEWHERE)

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Hi! I'm new to the fandom (on Tumblr, anyways--I watched season 1 when it came out (haven't watched season 2 yet)), and I wanted to ask what the racism in the fandom is about? I mean I can guess, since the new show changed Louis, Claudia, and Armand to black/brown actors. I guess I just figured that if people were really against the race and time period changes, then they simply wouldn't watch and be fans of the show?? I mean they are significant changes and they happen from the very first moment of episode one, so if they bother people so much, how would they be able to or want to watch the show and get into the fandom at all?

I guess basically I'm wondering if the racism you see is in the AMC fandom too, or is it more like people who are IWTV fans of the books/movie who don't like the changes?

hi!! thank u for being new here and somehow ending up at this account and asking questions. I feel like it's rare that that happens so I am glad ur here.

so for ur questions....a lot of the racist stuff comes from book fans.

idk if u know the history of the books and also the show, but let me give a brief rundown of it all.

the books started in the late 70s and were a lot of ppl's first exposure to a lot of things (gay relationships, gender stuff, polyamory) at young ages and also when these things weren't seen in many other spaces. anne rice also encouraged her fans to develop parasocial relationships with her, keeping in contact directly thu letters, emails, and phone calls. she also routinely hosted costume balls and stuff (which still happen today).

as for the show history, it took about 7 years for it to end up with AMC and start doing *anything.* anne and her son excitedly kept ppl updated on everything that happened in that time, then suddenly all went quiet once AMC started moving on doing anything. then anne died in 2021, before the show's release within the next year.

if u look at a lot of book ppl's posts about the show, u'll see phrases like "I've waited x years for this." take allllllllll of that info ^^ and stuff it into a single person, who then has existed in this fandom however many years, usually in an echo chamber of likeminded ppl with the same history, and u get a v specific mix of fandom racism. they're in their "sunk cost fallacy" era, basically.

a lot of these ppl don't care at all about the show itself, they're here to see the VC books in a visual format *finally.* they will "suffer" thru whatever just to get any crumb of something they feel is "owed" for being fans so long, for connecting so much to these stories, to anne, w/e the thing is. a lot of them are here for lestat only.

the main issue is that a lot of these fans....just hate the show even from the lestat perspective. they feel like his character is "ooc" for the abuse shown in 1x5, specifically, and have spent the last 2 years writing all kinds of angry posts about it and jumping thru hoops to explain why it's all a lie and why S3 (based on his book) will "fix" everything "finally." they also disregard any of the discussions about race and have targeted black fans a lot over time (general fans of color too but a lot of emphasis on black fans specifically) in attempts to push all of this out of anyone's view, so that they can remain the popular fans. this isn't done by white fans either, a lot of it has been done by other black fans. it's a common tactic used in a lot of spaces, fandom or otherwise, to "give permission" to ppl to let out racist behavior on certain other groups of ppl....but ur not in the group so it's ok, ur safe for "reporting" on "them."

a lot of the problem is these ppl (collectively referred to as "white fandom," which is a mindset, not a skin color), and u can see so many examples of what this looks like if u browse around the account. it's not always so obvious, prbly if ur new too, but u'll learn to see it once u find the pattern.

there's also book ppl who don't engage with the fandom anymore outside their circles but watch the show (or at least parts of it) and still moan how the tags are filled with show stuff and not the books anymore. it's the same "logic" but a different type of fan.

the show only fans aren't rly a problem. a lot of white show only fans haven't understood the racial themes but these aren't usually the ppl who are bullying everyone. it's mostly the book fans who need to feel superior at all times for having read the books. I mean, I've read them too, it's whatever, but some ppl just need that extra special attention about it (even tho they're awful books tbh. she fired her editor three books in and it *shows*).

I felt insane writing this lol but hope that helps clarify??

[rollercoasterwords]

I've heard of ppl complaining about ur writing speed and posting schedule but it's honestly ridiculous. like you actually write insanely fast. it is incredible that you have managed to write over 150,000 words (in very high quality writing might I add 🫶) in like 10 months !!

thank u lol honestly i feel like i’ve had relatively little bs 2 deal w compared 2 the flack i’ve seen some other fic writers get etc but i have def like. had conversations w some other fic writers abt how strange it feels 2 get people immediately commenting on chs like “when will the next ch be out?” or sending messages etc asking abt posting schedules…idk i have conflicted feelings bc on the one hand im like well maybe i just did this 2 myself by having unusually fast & consistent posting schedules at various points w past fics but on the other hand i do try 2 make it v clear when like. my posting is gonna slow down…& also i v much do not think it should be considered standard 4 people 2 be updating wips weekly or monthly etc like when i was writing a fic 4 a different fandom before i joined this one i took like a four month break in the middle of posting w no warning & no one complained abt it lol.

& it’s also like. i do understand that none of those comments/messages etc r ill intended & usually people will tack on a little ‘no pressure!’ but unfortunately i am going 2 pressure myself regardless…which i have had 2 actively work on bc i was like. i cannot keep stressing myself out over arbitrary deadlines i set for something that’s supposed 2 be a hobby!! so i might just be extra sensitive abt it now & if one of those messages catches me on a day where im stressed abt other stuff etc (frequent occurrence recently lol) then like. no matter how nicely it’s phrased it still doesn’t feel nice. & i understand wanting 2 know but i also don’t think u should read a wip unless ur actually prepared 2 a) deal w the story however it goes [separate complaint that i’ve been discussing w my fic writing friends lmao] and b) wait however long it takes 4 chs w no expectations abt regularly-scheduled posting. so!

anyway not sure 2 what extent this is like a new phenomenon or expectations have actually changed…one friend who’s been like. writing fic way longer than i have told me they do feel like there’s been a sort of shift across various fandoms w this new expectation that fic writers r posting regularly quickly & consistently. like maybe bc fic has become more ‘mainstream’ etc there are an influx of people who r bringing in new standards that sort of echo what they’d expect 4 other forms of media but like. when u take a step back & think abt it it’s a little wild 2 want or expect some random guy 2 be providing u w weekly entertainment for free…have seen a few people being like “ugh we need a new big wip that everyone’s reading & talking abt” & im like. oh so u want someone 2 kill themself lmao like everyone i know who’s had their fic treated like the fandom’s ~tv show~ that they tune in for every week has had a horrible horrible time lol

[hologramcowboy]

I want to discuss the subject of heart when it comes to piggybacking off of nostalgia/a previously existing fan base for a revival or whatever

Disclaimer: this ask will touch on a lot of stuff and will be rambley but I will try and package it nicely.

So a while ago JA mentioned him and D were going to do a podcast for the show and the question that those of us in the right frame of mind had was "why?". Say what you will but the OTH podcast is doing well for itself and it has fans eating it up. It's pure nostalgia bait but the stans love it and this is because its hosted by the 3 female leads, whose characters a lot of people grew up with and looked up to. They were an essential part when analyzing the heart of the show (there are other stuff but I won't make this longer than it need to be). The heart of spn, for a lot of fans was the bond between the brothers. As codependent as they were its part of why people latched onto the show, this dysfunctional family dynamic, that being said it makes zero sense to pursue a project like that w/o JP. D is completely irrelevant to the show. Especially when you consider she has never really seen it,by JA's admission. Which leads me to my next question , why is she even a part of this production when her heart isn't in it. This just exposes it for the shameless cash grab that it is.

This show lacks heart, and it's a shame that JA seems to be latching onto it like this when it's just going to act as dead weight. Nostalgia and revivals have more of an impact when some significant time has passed because it allows a proper retrospective of the media, the actors come in with fresh eyes, in a way and this may increase production value, if heart is in it. It can be constructed to pull in older fans but also new fans(like I've only seen maybe two episodes of Gilmore Girls but I've consumed so many deep dive retrospective video essays made by fans, older and newer, of the show) similarly I loved Gossip Girl and have also consumed video essays on it(I know a video essay isn't the same but I'm hoping it helped illustrate my point)

Sidebar : if TW had been made as pure camp, maybe had JP involved in production, cut D out it could have worked.

All this to say it's important for the people inv, especially those in charge to understand WHY people enjoyed the piece of media before touching it. Otherwise it feels vapid, and like a waste of time.

This was written with so much clarity and honesty. Thank you! ♥️

Jensen should have done market research around his brand, Danneel's and possible pilot options and only after doing that he should have created one. It's key to understand your target audience and what those people deeply resonate with when it comes to the show you plan on creating a spin off off of.

Danneel has no place being involved in the SPN legacy, Jensen replaced the lead of the show, Jared, with a bimbo. How did he even think that was going to go over well? I guarantee you that his reputation took a huge hit based on that choice. He proved he's the kind of "producer" puts money into women he is sleeping with rather than making smart business choices. I think Jensen saw Jared and Gen so involved and tried, yet again, to achieve what Jared was achieving. It's a pattern with him, he only got married and had children after seeing Jared do so. The difference is Gen never claims to be anything she is not, she is humble, professional and she never overshadows Jared or tries to make things about her, she earned her role on SPN through her audition and she honors the SPN brand. Even her involvement with Walker was due to casting dynamics and it was so beautifully done you never got a sense she was being shoved down your throat or that she was misrepresenting the brand of the show in any way.

As for your sidebar: Absolutely. The only people who should have produced a spin off of revival were Jensen and Jared.

I think you explained everything beautifully, people don't resonate with the show because it is as vapid as the people producing it. The bond between Sam and Dean was Supernatural and this prequel won't ever come close to the depth of that love and what it inspired in people.

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hello may I request a childhood friends to lovers w mick but he’s kinda jealous of one of your guy friends

author's note; Ok I've been loving Mick recently so you sent this at exactly the right time summary; Mick is startled to arrive home on break and find that you and your friend have grown painstakingly close. word count; 2k characters; Mick Schumacher x Reader warnings; Mentions of alcohol, jealousy

Mick Schumacher was sitting on your couch, silently nursing a beer as he rolled his jaw. You practically fell into the spot next to him, throwing your legs over his and sighing in content as you melted into the comfortable pillows. He just rolled the bottom edge of his beer around against his jean covered leg, staring at it in thought. "Are you alright?" You asked when he offered up no conversation. He kept his strong gaze on the bottle, shrugging. You studied his face; tense and stoic, and sat up properly. "Mick?" "I don't want to have people over." You clicked your tongue at his confession. "Mick, these people are our friends. Who haven't seen you in months. You can't just hole up in my apartment every time you're home." You said, trying to sound comforting instead of scolding. It must have worked, because he cracked a guilty smile and looked up at you through his eyelashes. "Are you sure I can't? We can watch ghost hunting videos and order pizza?" "As tempting as that is, people are already on their way."

Mick was home for two weeks this time. Every time he managed to snag some free time he usually spent it hiding in your apartment, sleeping in the spare bedroom he had practically staked his claim on. He always said you were the only person he wanted to hang out with when he was outside of the paddock. Other than his family, of course. It was no surprise. The two of you had been close since childhood. Technically, in your minds, the two of you had been married since year three. Jokingly both of you always blamed your marriage for being the reason neither of you could uphold a relationship. The two of you had discussed dating each other many a time. Usually in drunk confessions of "Oh, I used to like you!" "I liked you too! How funny."

Mick drew in a heaving breath, setting his bottle down on the coffee table and running a hand through his hair. "Who's coming?" "Uh- Astrid, Nils, Lilly, and Anders." "Anders?" Mick asked, seemingly taken aback by the mans name. Anders was one of your closest friends, and considering you did most of the socialising for you and Mick, the two men seemed friendly enough. "Yeah?" You asked, "Why?" "I don't know." Mick shrugged, like the answer didn't need an explanation. "I just don't like him that much." "Mick, you always do this." You whined. "What?" He exclaimed, laughing. "You always end up disliking people when you haven't seen them in a while." He just rolled his eyes at you, shaking his head. "They'll be here in an hour." He took another deep breath, then nodded and got up. "Okay. I'm gonna go change." He said, referring to the sweatshirt and sweatpants he was wearing. You stood up as well. "I should too."

Forty minutes later Mick was knocking on your bedroom door. "Hey, where's the dip? I was putting stuff out and-" He stopped talking when you opened the door. He looked you up and down, a sweet smile uncurling on his lips. "You look nice." He said. "It's jeans and a shirt, Mick." You laughed at him, brushing past him to head into the kitchen. You set to work finishing what he had started- finding the crackers you knew Lilly liked, grabbing the dip the five of your friends always devoured. Mick stood across from you, leaning against the kitchen island as he watched you. You looked up at him through your lashes. "They're going to be here soon. Are you going to help or watch?" "Watch." He hummed happily. You scrunched your nose up at him in feigned annoyance.

Another ten minutes later of banter with Mick, your doorbell rung. You nodded at him to open it, and he did. With the squeals and giggles that entered your ears when he did it was sufficient to say Lilly and Astrid had arrived. "Oh my god, hun!" Astrid said when she finally let go of Mick. She scurried over to you, wrapping her arms around you and squeezing as she rocked side to side. "It's so good to see you! Nils and Anders are on their way." "They're arrived, actually." A voice said, stepping through the open door. Lilly stopped her barage of courtesy questions towards Mick 'how are you? how's uhm.. haas? how was silverstone! oh that was ages ago? oops.' to allow Nils to give him a quick hug and pat on the back. Anders and Mick exchanged simple nods and you rolled your eyes at them. You gave Lilly a big hug and a kiss on the cheek. "How's the boyfriend?" You asked, to which she just groaned and shook her head. You laughed. She was infamous for having the worst boyfriends. Nils was next, who pulled you into a one armed hug. "I brought booze." He told the group. The announcement earned him quiet cheers. Then was Anders, who scooped you into a big bear hug. "Haven't seen you in ages!" When he finally let you go he placed a kiss to your cheek and left his arm wrapped around you. One look at Mick showed him glancing curiously at the spectacle. You and Anders were close, sure, but he didn't remember the two of you being this close. He shook himself out of the queasy feeling it was giving him and took the bottle of gin out of Nils hands. "Anyone want a G&T?"

Quite a few drinks later you were wrapped up in conversation with Anders as Mick stood against the wall. He was in a sour mood. And he felt guilty for ignoring the rest of his friends as his attention zeroed in on you and only you. His cheeks were red with alcohol and he both wanted to fall into bed and go out clubbing. Your eyes lit up when Anders said something and you laughed. He smiled along with you. Mick wondered what he was saying; there was an unfamiliar curl in his stomach. You had always been his best friend. He had never had a challenger before. It was his Haas merch you wore to bed, his jacket you borrowed when you were cold, his scent that hung in your home. And yet there was so evidently a man in your life he was unfamiliar with. He and Nils had known each other for ages. Hell, Nils had been in love with Astrid for most of it. Nils had never been an opposing force to him. But Anders seemed his sworn enemy of the night. He glanced at the clock. It was only 10pm. You would have kept the group going for a couple more hours, at least. You also most definitely would have put forward the offer that they all sleepover, mostly the girls. You would have spent another couple hours after that wrapped in your covers talking to Lilly and Astrid in hushed voices. He so desperately wanted to kick everyone out.

"You alright, mate?" Lilly popped up next to him. A sweet girl, really. A bit awkward but definitely someone he was happy to spend time with. She was always nervous when she'd see him after a while. But then she'd warm up and get into her newest interest. He was happy Formula 1 had never been one of them. He was ecstatic to hear someone talk in so much detail about something other than cars and stats. "Yeah, fine. You?" He replied. His voice was staggered, whether it was from his new jealousy or the alcohol he wasn't completely sure. Lilly just laughed at him. "You're brooding. You're not fine." "Sorry." Was the only response he could think of. She joined him, leaning against the wall and following his gaze to you and Anders. Her lips pursed, she said, "You know we all know you two are into each other?" "What?" Mick asked, voice harsh but quiet as he finally placed his attention fully on her. "Oh come on, Mick." Lilly was almost shocked at his surprise. "Her flat is covered with your stuff. You're always together. You practically live together. She's been into you since you two were like, twelve." "She has not." She just puffed air through her lips at his denial. "Say what you want. Brood or have fun, your choice." With those words she departed, peeling herself away from the wall and heading over to the couch to sit with Astrid and Nils.

Mick straightened up. She was right. What was he doing? "Hey, what are you guys up to?" He asked, approaching you and Anders. Your smile widened when you saw him. "Mick!" You giggled. Anders seemed less pleased, giving a half grimace as a greeting. "We were talking about going to lunch sometime soon. When are you home again? We can make it a group thing." Oh god, Mick had to hold back a loud laugh as the light drained from Anders' eyes. You were so oblivious. He wrapped a hand around your shoulders and your hand came up to his chest as you gazed up at him, still expecting an answer. "Oh, between Japan and the US." He told you. You stayed wrapped around him pretty much the rest of the night. The second he discarded his bad mood and embraced the fact he was with his friends it was a great night. As expected, you had invited the group to stay for the night. The men had declined, and Lilly had dragged Astrid out with a wink sent Mick's way.

"That wasn't that bad, was it?" You asked, cleaning up as Mick stood there watching you again. You had pretty much sobered up by now. "You going to help me, or watch?" "Watch." He said, smiling at the repetitive situation. You paused what you were doing, looking up at him. "What are you so happy about?" "You." He breathed out. You shook your head, dropping your gaze to hide the fact you couldn't stop your smile. "I think I'm in love with you." "What?" You asked, head snapping up. "You heard me." "Where is this coming from?" You breathed out shakily. "Oh come on, I spend every waking moment with you. I don't think I like anyone nearly as much as I like you. And you can't tell me you don't feel the same, I know you do. Your entire flat is practically ours. I mean, take one look in the spare bedroom! It's closet is filled with my clothes." "You're serious?" You stepped towards him. He made sure to keep your eye contact. "Dead serious." You reached out for him, a hand grabbing his shirt and pulling him down to meet your lips. It felt so good. Perfect, even. He felt hazed with excitement and lust, like a teenager, as his hands went down to your hips to grasp desperately at you. Your fingers wrapped up in his roots and he thought he was losing it. He lifted you onto your island counter, allowing the two of you two continue kissing like high school students. Like it was the first time you two had ever kissed anyone. You broke away for air first, chest rising and falling with deep breaths. You grinned at him and placed your forehead against his. Yet you pulled away when he angled up to kiss you again. "Are you okay?" "Take me to the bedroom, Mick." He had never picked you up and crossed your apartment so fast.

[maw-and-pawp]

Beneath Veiled Faces pt.1

Disclaimer: Robin's and Alma's views on vore doesn't reflect mine. Robin may come off as a little preachy in that one monolog, but just keep in mind that they have strong opinions formed from their own life experiences, and Alma has (less strong) opinions from her own. It's no way intended to say that one type of vore is inherently better than another- the reason the pred here gets the come uppance is purely plot armor lmao. Also, I've never been to a bar or had alcohol! Can you tell? XD Content: NSF/W vore, alcohol, intoxication, discussion of consent and ethics, panic attack, anxiety, unwilling vore, fatal digestion, hurt/comfort, secret missions, first meetings, secret identities, background murder, past slavery, not too graphic violence, unnamed female pred and unnamed ambiguous prey. Lots of fucking world building.

Robin scans the room once again, ears straining to listen to the wind from inside the mixed bar. The lights are dim this time of night, most patrons having either left or had one too many. The perfect time for most predators to make their move on people too drunk to properly fight back. Or run.

This area of the city has been struck with a string of disappearances, all prey folk. An obvious new hunting ground for an inexperienced pred. No matter. If they do this right, their target won't get the experience to get away with it smoothly.

The bartender gives them a strange look from across the room. Robin had tucked themself into the back booth, back to the wall, ordering only the occasional food. It was, admittedly, good food. They're obsessed with the cheese-stuffed potato skins and the sweet potato fries covered with some sort of sweet glaze. But they hadn't ordered any alcohol in a bar all night, just using a fork to stuff their face with finger food. And they had just been caught looking too closely at the patrons and the exits.

Stars they must look so suspicious. They just know they've got ‘that look’ in their eyes again, as Cedar keeps pointing out, that gives people the impression that they're ‘staring straight into your soul’. Ugh. Guess it's time to go up to the bar and actually order something, or blow their cover.

They hand over their ID and smile without teeth. The bartender eyes them a moment longer, before handing it back. He's a tall pred folk, one that would tower even above other mortal preds. As it is, Robin's palms start sweating in their gloves from having to almost throw their head back to look him in the eyes. They focus instead on the little enameled pin tucked across his collar, a cutesy little ghost saying ‘boo-mbtastic!’. As they start to read the menu for something light to sip, he speaks up. “I saw you looking around a lot tonight.”

“I'm waiting for someone,” they confess. It's not the whole truth, obviously, but they can't lie even if they wanted to. He chuckles. His voice rough enough it makes them shiver. They hope they're not flushing. “Got stood up, huh?”

They move to shake their head, but stop mid-movement. A sweet scent tickles their nose, and they have to swallow thickly against the sudden flood. The stool next to them shifts as someone slides in.

“Heyyyy bestie, no time no seeee,” the stranger says. A young prey woman sits next to them, swinging her feet and leaning her face in her hands. A faery prey woman. What in the world…?

“I saw you yesterday, Alma. Like I see you every night.” The woman - Alma - hands over her ID and smiles with teeth. Her pink nose is flushed red already, her pupils blown so only a ring of spring green can be seen. Has she been bar hopping? “Are they with you tonight, then? You can't keep leaving your dates hanging. This one's been here all night waiting.”

The other faery looks surprised, before turning her face to where he's gesturing. She looks them up and down, and smirks conspiratorially. “They are now! You don't mind, do you?” Robin shrugs. It doesn't matter to them, although now they'd have to find a way to thank her for saving their ass there. The man raises an eyebrow and mutters something fond under his breath about ‘damn kids, had me worried’.

They both order, and the bartender turns to start preparing the drinks. Robin tilts their head at the faint whisper in the wind. It's something to focus on instead of the way their stomach clenches. They've eaten enough food tonight, they don't need more, and they've just met Alma. That's not how it's supposed to go back in the homeland. And they've had enough of the nontraditional way. Never again.

She studies them over the edge of her glass of wine. Seemingly sizing them up in turn. After a moment, she comes to a decision, and hisses quietly in their mother tongue, words having a strange accent to them. “Y'know, I thought I was the only one on this side of the Veil.” She smiles toothily, swaying some. They resist the urge to grab her arm to steady her.

“Me too.” They take a sip of the sangria they ordered, trying to wash her scent down with another sweet thing. They need a distraction, so they ask the first thing that comes to mind to keep the conversation going, leaving one ear pricked towards the wind. “What brings you here?”

She snorts. “To the bar or the jungle? Because if it's the first, buddy that's so cliche to ask What's A Pretty Thing Like You Doing In A Place Like This.” Alma giggles as she downs the rest of her wine. She fully turns to face them, leaning her elbow up on the counter not made for her height. Her upright ears flutter, once, twice.

They roll their eyes. “I'm not hitting on you, obviously. You don’t have to answer that if it's personal.”

Alma rolls her eyes right back. She sobers some as she mulls it over. In a hushed tone, she replies, as if anyone happening to be listening could actually understand them. “I'm not the real Alma Florimell. Well, I am but not. It's a whole deal.”

They hum to themself. “Changeling?” They pretend not to be invested in the answer. Truly, how alone must she feel if she was willing to answer a vulnerable question from a stranger? Or drunk. Probably drunk. They shouldn't ask anymore questions like that, then.

“Yeah. Switched at birth and all. Like in a bad comedy drama. I'm lucky that my hosts wanted me even after they realized I'm not normal,” she rambles. The bartender notices that her drink is empty, and she motions for a refill with a muted smile. She sways again. Maybe she's had enough for tonight… They quietly ask for some water in english and push it towards her. “And, well, the real Alma isn't on speaking terms with hers, so I guess I dodged a bullet.”

“You are normal, Alma. Perfectly healthy and average for someone like you, as far as I can tell. And yeah, the plant thing is a little weird, but you're all just weird to me in general.” 

They decide to look around again, instinct telling them that something was off. Nothing was out of the ordinary at a glance, though. Exactly how it was before they got caught. They frown slightly to themself before turning back. They redouble their split focus towards the hunt at hand.

“Whatever…” she brushes off. There's no reason to believe them, afterall. They don't even know why they said that. Robin glances down to their hands. Half the glass is gone somehow. Oops. “Wait, how did you know about that?”

“It's really common. It would be weird if you didn't feel more at home with plants than people.” 

A momentary silence descends between them. Robin scrambles for something to say. They feel dizzy; from the alcohol or from the sweet treat they're talking to, they can't say. Their stomach rumbles in interest at the thought. They shake their head, realizing they're staring. 

It's Alma that breaks the silence. “So, what about you? How’d a windborne end up here? You're not trooping faeries. It must be hard living in a city, especially with no prey. Unless I don't know anything and I should shut up now. No seriously I won't be offended if you tell me to, I ramble all the time, especially when I've had too many. Like now. Yeah.” She sips her water to illustrate the point. The little preything really could talk, huh? Robin likes the sound of her voice, it's deep and smooth, reminding them of Cedar in a strange way. When he's totally relaxed and not nearly soprano from his anxiety. They take out their phone and shoot off a reminder to take his melatonin gummies while they're thinking about him.

Pocketing it, they finally process her words, and freeze. Well, she might not get it, but maybe they can subtly tell her a partial truth so she can draw her own conclusions… They pull up their left sleeve just enough to reveal the old brand curling possessively up their forearm. Their master’s use-name, written in the faery tongue in bold characters. It's an old and ugly memory, but their master’s attendants made sure it healed cleanly. The only apology they could give them as a child freshly ‘acquired’. They don't acknowledge the gasp to their right as they calmly explain, “I'm a free hound, but I can't ever be sure it would stay that way if I went back.”

They pull down their sleeve and fit it back over their glove snuggly. The leather squeaks as they testingly clench their fingers. Stalling, so they don't have to acknowledge the fear Alma is radiating at their side. Her heart is beating so fast, rushing blood close to the surface, making her scent flood the air. It's soured with terror. So dizzy, and shaky, they get up to leave her alone. It's fine. They get it.

Her fingers shoot out and clutch their sleeve. “It's fine! I'm sorry for reacting like this. Give me a minute, you don't have to go!” 

They rip their arm away, baring their fangs in a snarl. Heart hammering, they can't breathe enough air into their lungs, and their world lurches forward from the rush of adrenaline and oxygen deprivation. The stool rushes up to meet them and they cling onto it like a lifeline. Everything blurs out of their awareness for several long moments.

When they come back to themself, their ears are ringing, and the bartender has come from behind the counter and laid them down flat on the ground so they wouldn't crash and bring glass with them. He's speaking softly to them, and someone next to them is guiding them through a breathing exercise. They vaguely recognize it as the same one they use with Cedar when he has attacks. Their ears ring.

Robin is guided back onto the stool, Alma saying something to the bartender, who after a moment retreats to get them a glass of water. She very carefully doesn't touch them, but she does lean forward into their line of sight, pretty lips softly smiling. It doesn't reach her eyes. 

“Sorry. I didn't mean to scare you…”, she murmurs. “I didn't know.”

“I should be the one apologizing. Just. Don't touch me suddenly. Don't grab my arms like that. And we’re golden.” They gulp down their water in one big swallow. “Thanks for helping me through that. You didn’t have to.”

“Yeah I did, idiot. I messed up. I fix it. Thems’ the rules.” She leans back out of their space. “I think I owe you something now, though. For being frightened unnecessarily, and causing a situation where you'd panic.”

“You don't owe me anything. It's fine. It's over, and it was an understandable reaction to that. It's fine.”

She tilts her head, regarding them thoughtfully. “What about dinner? You don't seem like you've gotten enough to eat recently. Your presence is weaker than I know it should be. Or well, it's late for dinner. I could be dessert?”

Robin bites back the first three answers. They are not going to make decisions with their stomach, thank you very much. “Don't offer me your body out of a perceived obligation. That's weird. I would be weird for saying yes to that.”

She flusters. “Hey, don't talk about it like it's sex! And it's not obligation! I thought, maybe, that you would be tempted if I said it like that. To be honest, I just want to disappear right now. Be far away from everything. I don't know, the chiropractor is too expensive. I need to get factory reset and no one is biting. It's just fulfilling a need for eachother. And yeah, I am sorry for earlier. I know bloodhounds don't get a choice in what the person on the other end of the leash makes you do. It was irrational. You'd have torn my throat out already if you were still under someone's thumb. And I know that I get the munchies after a panic attack, I thought that it would probably be welcome to offer you a meal.”

They hum in thought for a moment, choosing their words carefully. “It's not inherently sex, you're right. But I need to approach it like it is. It's a lot of the same questions about consent and autonomy about our bodies. It's not like here in the mortal realm, they die from this all the time. They can't have a culture around respecting a prey as a person in the same way we can. It's inherently intimate, at least for me. You're both food and a person, but here it's food or a person. It's so strange to think about it like that. It feels wrong.” They shiver in disgust at the mere thought. “So following that logic, I'm pretty sure we're both too intoxicated to be making that decision right now.”

Alma’s voice turns teasing. “You've had literally one drink. You're not that much of a lightweight, are you?”

“Guilty as charged. It's the bird bones. Can't be too heavy to fly and all.” They smirk. “Who knew hollow bones were bad at making blood, too?”

“Oh boy. Let's hope you never have to go to the ER!”

“Yeah. Let's hope.”

They settle once again into a comfortable silence. At some point they relocate to the booth Robin had claimed earlier. Alma ends up ordering 3 more wines, and they show her the magic of the glazed sweet potato fries. She teases them for eating fries with a fork, and they dare her to wrap her hands in napkins and not get any grease or glaze on them. She fails spectacularly, over and over, until Robin can't breathe because they're laughing too hard. She playfully kicks under the table.

While they're having fun in good company, the other preds at the bar watch in curiosity. Some had been concerned earlier, when the short one had keeled over. Some were watching with bated breath, placing bets on when the little pred was going to stop playing with their food and eat the tiny prey. In anticipation or cynical worry.

And one was thinking to herself that the little pred was weak. That together with the tiny preything, they'd make a filling meal. The tiny prey was drunk, it wouldn't put up much fight. Couldn't walk, let alone run, so all she had to do was swallow the other one first. Oh yes. It looked so tasty. She hoped her prey paired well with the margarita she's been nursing the whole night. 

Her stomach burbled in interest at the thought of dinner tonight. Or perhaps, that was last night's prey still processing. Such a pretty thing, so trusting. It filled her up nice and good. She went home with a squirming gut that night, and put her favorite soap operas on. Rubbed her belly as it purred, bubbling and churning in delight as the little thing screamed for help. Slowly being drowned out by her massive gut roaring to life, thrashing getting weaker as her stomach clenched and melted her prey into nothing. Gods, she can't get enough of it. Truly, this was what she's been missing out on?

She follows them out after they split the bill, and the little pred helps the tiny one walk. They stagger a few times, and the two stop for a moment so the tiny one can bend over a bush. She hears them hiss quiet words to eachother in a language she's never heard before. They sound like snakes, but if snakes were Italian. How interesting.

She slips unnoticed past them with a casual walk. An alleyway was only a bit ahead, where they'd have to pass to call a taxi home. Perfect. Now, just to wait.

Robin sighs in relief as nothing ends up coming up. It's been a long night for Alma by the looks of it, and they mentally prepare to get strange looks from the taxi driver as they carry a nearly blackout drunk preygirl home. She'd probably be fine on her own, seeing as faery prey are fighters when they don't like what's happening. Vicious things. But it's rained recently, and if she passes out in a puddle…

The hunt tonight was fruitless so far. Well, maybe they could take Alma home and come back to continue. The predator has been attacking in a circular pattern across the city, Missing Persons last being seen at a bar and disappearing after the establishment closes, or after they leave. So the culprit is choosing the victims inside the building. 

Of course, serial killers or traffickers aren't entirely ruled out. But the broken antler pieces left in alleys suggest an amatuer predator breaking off the natural defenses of their prey, not wise enough yet to remember to clean up afterwards. Or someone clever enough to make it look like a predator attack to throw off investigators. Not that the police have been any kind of useful to a simple case like this so far. That's why they have to step in now.

They curse their circumstances in their head. If only there were more faery prey - willing prey - they wouldn't have heard about this so late. The wind would've carried the screams for help to them from anywhere in the world. But the longer they go without eating, the more the wind fades from their awareness, the harder it is to maintain the glamour that safely hides away their wings in a pocket dimension. They haven't eaten prey since they were a teenager…

They slowly lead Alma away from the bush as she straightens back up. The designated area for the taxi was just ahead, a little alley between them and the waiting bench.

Someone grabs the back of their shirt and yanks. They feel their body be pulled back into the shadows, reflexively letting go of Alma in the process. Adrenaline shoots up their spine. Something wet hits their face - drool - and they instinctively twist around in the grip of their captor. The attacker is over powered, or caught off guard by their strength, and loses some of their hold on them. Robin strikes out where they're guessing the face is of the predator, and tries not to grin when they feel a crack underneath their fist. They've struck true once again.

The person goes flying. They watch as they - she, bounces off the side of a dumpster and lands on her knees. A vindictive, predatory part of themself purrs in satisfaction in seeing their target brought low. She groans. Growls some generic insult. Or threat. They don't really care what she has to say.

“Found you,” Robin breathes, and Alma slurs. The prey woman leaning on the opposite wall wastes no time in reaching into seemingly nowhere and bringing forth five long purple needles. She throws them. One lands in the dirt by the target’s feet, one in the brick wall, two in the metal, and one strikes true into the predator’s engorged gut. They feel sick as they watch the flesh wobble on impact. The woman goes limp almost instantly.

Robin eyes her for a moment before turning their head to stare at Alma. “What do you mean, ‘found you’?!” They once again say in unison. They shake their head. “You first.”

“I ho arouuund,and…*hic* smell nice. It makes them. It makes them want meeee. So I figired, I've got Para. The stiff that makes you jot move. I trick em into eating it along with me if they're gonna just *hic* take meeee.” Alma rambles. “Yooou turn”

“...I go around and find predators that don't take no for an answer. And I make them take no for an answer.”

“Ohhh you're the killlllerrr. Cooooool”

 “And you’re the cause behind preds becoming paralyzed suddenly. Nice.”

“Yeaaah” She slowly sinks down the wall, and Robin moves to help her up. “I wanna go home now.”

The adrenaline is slowly starting to wear off, and the exhaustion setting in. Robin is tired down to their bones after tonight. All in all a successful hunt, with a new ally/friend to boot, but they've done more emotional work tonight than they have since the night they ran. “Yeah. Let's go home.”

Two taxi rides, a deadweight girl on their back up a flight of stairs, and a worried phone call later, Robin is closing their own apartment door behind them. They're asleep in Cedar’s bed before their head hits the pillow.

[ransprang]

Chapter 1, Chapter 2, Chapter 3, Chapter 4 (Finale)

Serial Killer! Harvey x Ex-Lawyer! Reader - Chapter 4 (Finale)

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Year 1, Winter

The past few weeks were full of town gatherings at Lewis's house and at the Saloon to discuss what the town was going to do about the 3 missing people. You had joined the adventure guild in their patrols and there truly seemed to be nothing out of the ordinary. No wild animals and nothing out of place.

The townsfolk got increasingly wary especially those with young children. Hence Lewis established a new curfew that everyone must be indoors before sunset and cannot leave until sunrise. This was awful since winter meant that there was less daylight.

On top of that, a while after Pam's disappearance Harvey had come to your house with a bouquet of flowers apologizing for his lack of response and expressed his love for you. How on Earth are you supposed to go on romantic dates with your new boyfriend now?!

The night before the curfew was completely set in place, Harvey took you to the beach for a romantic picnic while watching the sunset. While watching the sunset, he turned to you and held your hand gently, "Y/n, I may not be very strong, but I promise to protect you during these times. I promise nothing will harm you as long as I'm around." Unable to express how safe that makes you feel you lean in towards him..only to be startled by a loud noise, "OHOHO LOOK AT THE WEE LITTLE LOVEBIRDS WE'VE GOT HERE". Willy made his way down the dock amused by the sight.

"Enjoyin' the sunset are we before the curfew ey?" You chuckled with Willy and noticed that Harvey didn't seem too pleased. Before you could take Harvey away to a more private spot, "Aye, I understand with things bein' so scary now even I'd take a break away from work t'spend some time with the others. Ah but the ocean needs me hoho. Have fun you two." He started whistling and walking back to his house.

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How dare he. How dare that lowly fisherman assume his profession is harder than mine. Did he really think it was easy for me to take time off to spend this moment with my precious y/n? He will pay.

"...Honey, you okay?" You said softly looking concerned. Harvey shakes off his thoughts, "Yes sorry I was just thinking of something." Harvey sees your eyes gaze into the distance clearly something is bothering you as well. He grabs your hand prompting you to speak.

"W-well you see with recent events I'm terrified of course, but I really think something bad is in this town and I'm not sure what it is. You see when I was patrolling for the guild I saw some stuff that may be out of place I guess? Like in the forests I saw a lot of beer cans by the cliff and I saw some red splatters on the way to the spa. I don't know if they mean anything..."

Harvey was surprised he forgot to clean up such little details, "Oh darling, I bet it's just all the stress and rumors getting to you-"

Harvey got interjected by your rambling, "No. No..it's so strange isn't it that 1 person has been disappearing every season since I moved in? I didn't really tell anyone in the Valley since I thought it'd scare people away. You see, I was a prosecutor in the city and well I've seen so many criminal cases to the point where it stressed me out and I had nightmares about them. That's why I moved out here. I'm wondering if this might be the doing of one of the townsfolk." Y/n looked over into Harvey's eyes for reassurance.

Harvey's mind was racing. His beloved was a prosecutor? Oh man, he royally messed up. Maybe y/n should've been the first target. He should've researched her background. No No NO what was he thinking, they are lovers how could he be thinking that he promised to keep you safe.

"Wow honey I didn't know you were from such a background it explains how you're so intelligent. I think with the curfews hopefully these scary events cease to occur ever again." Harvey says giving you a kiss on the cheek. Still a bit troubled you hug him and you both head home.

As Harvey opens the office door he sees that it's unlocked, which is strange considering he was sure he locked it. Thinking nothing of it he headed in and before he went to his room he heard some rumbling.

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It was 4pm and Harvey let Maru go a bit early today, which she was thankful of considering the recent missing cases. She went home and just as she reached her house she realized she forgot to take a file with her to read up on before work tomorrow. Luckily she had a spare key Harvey gave her 2 years ago, which she didn't have to use till now surprisingly.

She unlocked the door and made her way to Harvey's office. Looking for the file she noticed there are a few less files than before specifically Alex, Pam and Shane's were gone. Trying to not think much of it she tried to look for the notebook with tomorrow's schedule. Out of curiosity she looked through the Fall history and saw that Pam's appointment was during her day off but she hadn't signed in. Which is strange since Pam always came in when she was in the office. It's been like this for the past few years.

Maru started wondering if Harvey knew something. He had been a bit more jumpy lately and especially protective of his belongings. Maru knew she shouldn't be doing this, but she went into Harvey's room. Taking a glance at the pilot gear she saw a bit of red on the corner and took a swab of the dried up liquid with a cotton bud she was conveniently carrying around.

Still feeling uneasy, she found snooped through his cabinet to find a jar of rat poison. The Valley did not have any rats so it was strange that Harvey needed this. There was a syringe next to it as well. Maru thought that the pairing was very odd. Feeling a bit creeped out she makes her way out till she sees a white board. Turning it around she sees Alex, Shane and Pam's faces along with others on the board. Maru started reading the board "Shane.. 3am cliff.. Alex 5am spa..tired...Pam appointment..rat poison.." Maru stopped reading out of fear and took a picture of the sight in front of her.

She just wants to get out of here at this point as she is about to exit she sees the front doorknob opening. Quickly she hides in a room trying to make as little noise as possible. She holds her hand over her mouth to make sure Harvey doesn't hear her.

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Harvey is about to go into his room when he hears a voice. He's certain there's someone else in the clinic with him. Quietly he makes his way around the clinic trying to find the voice.

"...Help....Killer...Prosecute him" Slowly the voice is getting clearer. It's a woman's voice. "...he gets rid of the evidence." Harvey draws back the curtain that was covering one of the medical beds, "Maru?"

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Reaching home you take a warm shower and are ready to collapse onto your bed. You got a voice message from Maru 5 minutes ago. Since you went to visit Harvey in the clinic at times, you and Maru also got along very well and you even considered her to be your best friend. She was the only other person who knew you were a prosecutor. You start listening to the voice message:

"Y/n, I'm in serious trouble you need to help me I'm in the clinic. I know who the killer is. It's Harvey. Please help me you need to prosecute him. I sent a picture it's enough evidence. Quickly before he gets rid of the evidence-" You then hear a strange noise then an all too familiar voice with a bit of a sinister tone, "Maru? What are you doing here?"

A terrified Maru replied "D-doctor Harvey I-" "Now now Maru it's a bit too late for you to be out and about, don't you know what's been happening lately?" The message then cuts off.

Your heart beats fast. Fingers shaking you open the attachment. It's a picture of a whiteboard detailing the recent disappearances. Your sweet boyfriend Harvey did all this? The same man who told you he'd protect you from all danger? The man who did aerobics class on Saturday mornings? It all feels so surreal.

You put on a coat and boots, and run to the clinic. Banging on the front door you yell, "Harvey? HARVEY??". There is no answer. It is eerily quiet. You run to the Stardrop Saloon hoping there may be someone to help Maru. Entering the Saloon, you started yelling help and all chatter stopped. Mayor Lewis asked what's wrong. "Maru.. Maru is in danger please you need to help her."

Sebastian hears his sisters name and without any questions immediately asks you to take you to her. Sebastian, Sam, Kent, and a few others come along seeing how frantic you are. They are puzzled when you lead them to the clinic. With the help of Kent and Pierre, the door was kicked open.

You all hear a panicked scurrying in one of the rooms. Heading towards the room the group collectively gasps as they see a bleeding Maru and Harvey in bloody clothes. Before Kent tackles Harvey to the floor, your eyes meet and he looks almost apologetic and embarrassed that you caught him like this. As you started crying, you just barely saw Sam holding Sebastian back from tearing Harvey apart.

Someone took you by the arms and led you out of the clinic.

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With all the undeniable evidence, it was very easy to prosecute Harvey by the law. However, it took a huge emotional toll on you. Ever since this event the Valley had not been the same...

[volfoss]

Okay, the cool monster designs got me: What is Volfoss abt if you don't mind spoiling the game? Does it have a bestiary that tells you about the monsters? Also! How's your day been?

YESSSSS 😈 volfoss is a tactical rpg released only in japan for the ps1, a quick tldr of the story is there are trooper/mercenary (kind of work similarly to the latter, you get letters that give you missions, which can range from kill these burglars -> get rid of these monsters, missing kids and so on. there are also a lot more whimsical quests and also some silly evil ones (havent done the evil route but there are multiple assassination quests)) groups all over the world, and you are in part of one of them. spoilers for like early game stuff (just the start of the first act, and also a vague plot point that is hinted at starting in act 2) under the cut :3

The game starts in Asdenia (one of the big three countries/capitals) with your group, the Silver Fang, being pretty much wiped out by your leader dying. There are pretty much only three of you left, Shalvas (who is the protagonist), Mistos (who is kind of there to help Shalvas early game and also just kind of be the silly guy that Shalvas' straight man (comedy wise) nature bounces off of) and Marica (who goes off on her own after your mentor/leader dies). With the leaders death, the Silver Fang basically lose any popularity/anyone who wants to hire them that they might have had prior, and so the game starts with you going to help out a village in Asdenia that is being attacked by monsters. After that, you get another quest to rescue a girl, and then my best friend Uchida appears <3 hes a info broker basically and is like hey. let me help you get more jobs and over time you do get more because Uchida is the fucking BEST!!

The rest of the game from here on out (this is just the first 3 quests before you're basically set free to do whatever) focuses on taking quests and well. Completing them obviously. There are 5 endings, and the game doesn't let you make dialogue choices (which I like because of how it kind of feels more behind the scenes. You're working WITH Shalvas as a character and influencing him by taking the quests that you want to take instead of directly making choices in dialogue or on missions of what you want him to do. This might be a drawback for some but I really feel like it lets Shalvas be himself and takes a bit of the control out of the players hands), instead the quests influence how it goes. There are 5 types of quests (evil, good, and one for each of the three big countries), and by the end of the first act, it narrows you into one of two paths, which then branch out into the five endings.

Some of my favorite things about it is actually how it handles a lot of topics that most rpgs dont handle well in a really nuanced fashion. There is a big war by the time you hit the last act of the game, which has been ramping up through the game, and it is handled in a very very listening to both sides fashion. The ending I'm on right now has discussions of someone trying to convince another person to help them out in the war, and the other person replies with discussing the value of lives and why the (redacted for spoilers sowwy) people deserve to live more than the other. They also really did good w the female characters in this, Rially is really well written (shes a silly but helpful ally you have), Marica is one of the best women I've seen in any rpg EVER (she has a lot of nuance and there could be a yuri situatuon between her and another woman if you squint a tiny bit), there are women in high positions in government and that's just treated as normal. Disability is also something treated SHOCKINGLY well. One of the villains is missing part of his arm (and has no prosthetic) and it is NEVER brought up or shown as something that he needs to overcome or yk the standard ableist bs. Like he's one of the strongest characters in the game and given a TON of depth. Everyone really is, like this game will make you feel sympathy for characters that other rpgs would have just painted as black and white evil. The protagonists are all AMAZING and the characters are super easy to understand where they are coming from, if not just outright love them. Even the villains get a more morally grey approach than a lot of rpgs would. The writing in general is really good (which is like. not helpful due to there being no english patch and I have machine translated every single line in this game. when i finish the guide it will have summaries and stuff so. if you are interested just wait a bit :) ), the route that I've taken has been super entertaining and dramatic. A lasting theme in the game is the value of life (even if they are an enemy of yours. which is handled very well and do NOT start me on it because it makes me blow upppp) and I think it's a very interesting theme to have due to how as a trooper, you DO have to kill monsters. It treats it better than a lot of rpgs who really only treat the named characters dying as a tragedy but if you kill a bunch of bandits, its completely ok.

To get into gameplay, due to being a game from 2001, it is a bit clunky. But honestly it's pretty easy to pick up (coming from someone who has never played a trpg before) and it's super fun. The gameplay loop doesn't really get boring (esp for a like. 30-50 hour long game. from what i understand from times online) and there's a ton of unique functions (such as a Morgue where you can resurrect enemies that you killed last battle to fight for you for one battle, a Gem system that gives your characters attacks/defense different powers (a red gem gives a fire attack etc and there are many combos) and the faction relationship system (which is partially how endings are decided. You do enough missions for one of the big 3 areas, and they start to like you more and more)).

To get to your bestiary question, yes and no. There is an in game gallery, but unless you can read Japanese (or machine translate), there's not a ton of info there. Here's Rially's page for an example:

As for stats on the characters, there is that info with the physical game (which I do plan on scanning my copies of the map, unit guide, and manual and put them on the internet archive eventually) and just through a LOT of trial and error. The Volfoss Wiki (all in Japanese as well bc theres like. one site discussing this on the English side of things afaik) has a lot of info on stuff as well. I'm definitely trying to gather more info as I play to put into the guide so there IS info like that out there in the world. You can see all the monsters there and here's a link to most of them online (there's only a few of them missing and I know that due to having a lot of it memorized by this point lol). also sneakily dropping a link to the rom here at the end if you do want to play it :3 i can also give a more detailed description of gameplay and stuff if you are interested. also please look at uchida. its important. and also sheala who has a really cool design, i dont think its super often you find a woman just wearing normal armor in games lol. she is also insanely hard to fight (just beat her and came to tumblr to take a break and then. essay unfortunately)

and i'm doing ok! a bit tired but staying distracted with getting this scary long guide (76 whole pages.) closer to completion. or at least like 30% being done lol.

[djuvlipen]

hey im sorry if youve already answered this and i just didnt see or understand, but ive been wanting to ask this for awhile. im from romania and growing up i hung out w roma ppl who rly didnt care abt the terminology, we called them țigani, they called themselves țigani. over the years i have seen many roma ppl from here who think the push to be called roma instead of țigan is ridiculous/doesnt help/performative/annoying/its a upper class thing. most also reffer to the language that they speak as țigăneşte, and this is the terminology that we use too. however, there is also the side which says that it is an offensive word and that they would rather be called roma. i guess what im asking is, in your opinion, is the word ţigan inherently a slur? and, another thing, is the word țigan and gypsy (which i know theres also the same discourse in romania abt) the same thing? thank u and sorry again if u explained before

Hi anon!

Regarding the word țigan (or, to be honest, anything that has to do with terminology) we have to remember that there are a lot of Romani groups different from each other when it comes to history, dialects, customs, etc. So one group of Romani people may be comfortable with țigan, or with gypsy, but not other groups

Personally, all the Roma from Romania that I have met consider it a slur. All the Romanian Romani organizations that I know of consider it a slur, and the translation of the word țigan in German, "zigeuner", is unequivocally a slur. That's why I would consider "țigan" a slur, however, if your local Romani communities don't consider it a slur and are using it and are okay with you using it, then I won't speak over them, they know better than me how it's like living in Romania so I won't contradict them.

It can be a big intra-community discourse, however the general tendency nowadays is to consider cigan and variants of the term a slur, at least that's been my experience, that's been the experience of all the Roma I have met so far, and that's what I've seen from Romani organizations. But there are some Romani groups that disagree with that, and I respect that

I really get what you mean about it being somewhat ridiculous, performative, pointless and a privileged conversation. I often feel like that too, because often times on the internet and in mainstream politics, people will focus on what's the correct language to use, instead of discussing more pressing issues (i'm thinking about stuff like housing and access to healthcare, for example). That's why I try not to discourse too much about language and focus more on those other issues, though I do think it's good to remind people that the words they are using are sometimes, at best, derogatory, otherwise they'll get too bold and start insulting you...

tl;dr, I don't really think of this issue in terms of 'is it inherently a slur', for me it's more about supporting what the general Romani opinion is, and from what I've experienced, the general Romani opinion is that it's a slur, however I won't fight the Roma who disagree because they are entitled to their own opinion

And as for your last question, "are țigan and gypsy the same", the answer is no, not really. Words always carry different connotations when used in a different language. It's even more blatant in this case, because even though gypsy is used to translate țigan, "gypsy" comes from the word "Egyptian" while "țigani" comes from the Greek word "athinganoi". When people say gypsy translates to țigan, it's because this word is the closest equivalence in the targeted language, it's not a direct translation the way "zigeuner" directly translates to "țigan"

I hope this helps and that my explanation makes sense!

[the-firebird69]

INDIAN LARRY BLOCKPARTY #indianlarry #nyc #hellyeabrother #harleydavids...

He's doing this all the time and he is crashing and he is swearing at people he's yelling at their fault and you see now and he's mean he's losing power and money and stuff faster than you can blink it doesn't respond to anything. Our son wrote some real powerful notes and he says you won't be able to defend yourselves and it's true he's just sitting there doing nothing so we kind of read him he just doesn't care anymore and we need them out and he should be pulled out but the empire is using him and his threat and him not caring and he'd rather fight Tommy f and we'd rather get rid of the piece of s***. Right now we're preparing to start mobilizing to come in here and other areas and Max want to go to different ones yeah and foreigners have theirs and it's going to hash out these are just going to sit here and we need to know now you got some acts are going to roll without us and if they start and we're not ready it's going to be a lot harder. There's a lot of reasons why we don't want them to have this many shifts Saturn is the biggest and around the earth too we don't want them to be the dominant Force and these guys don't seem to have enough gumption to get over it and are totally on to each other's fight and it's ridiculously bad and it's wrong it's not the math but they think it is.

You're going to be in a fight and we think they'll like it and they think it's covered and good we're going to be taking the ships and they say at least the empire won't have them and the foreigners too and they think they'll be a big fight and suddenly they're going to be the riders and they don't have a problem with it but they're huge assholes and we have a problem with that and so do the foreigners the max hate them and they're going to have a lot of problems shortly

We are saying we're going in but these guys can't tell who anyone is anymore and they will pay for it

Thor Freya

Olympus

I'm pleased I do hear what they're saying we can't stand this anymore and it's true now it's a strategic issue we can't have it happen up there either and we are right and we did talk to the foreigners too and I'm glad to have that respect and they were talking to us about the whole time and I'm glad to have that too and they're showing us a new house possibly and be happy to be there and he's wondering what what format yeah because this is somewhat Asian influence here lol it's not even funny but okay you seen some really close copies I've had enough for you that's funny though and he's joking with me and he makes me laugh he made me laugh as Jolene you didn't know who it was the entire time and I played it through because I'm doing a number on him for a reason he keeps on asking and I won't tell him and make some sad and he sits her alone but that's what it's like for me no LOL so get the other side of it LOL he says it's going to have to trace me down every night in that huge house playing pool a ghost playing the pool game you heard it and he doesn't see anyone I'm coming out of the bathroom and he'll start laughing cuz I usually leave the door opening no I close the door and flush I'm very appropriate so it'll be a fun place I think it's nice there's a little bit of entertainment in the house instead of nothing to do all day and we'd have gardening he's wondering how I'm going to get there I got all these options he's saying gross okay well really this is what's going to happen, no I'm switching to a different topic, we're going to have a little battle coming up and yeah the empire is starting to come out and nobody's following them but there's going to be a battle up there forms of moving towards tighten and we are and the empire is moving it it's going to be a little bit of a war we have a few things to discuss a little later on but he's got to get a shower and he forgot to take one

Hera

Some pretty huge house be nice to make it on a block but I'm wondering it seems like we would be in a new house and I don't know exactly why because I went to school in the old one and it seems okay

Zues

It's still in use really it's not in Florida and we think it's still in the mountain but you're right about something I don't see where it is either and we think that it might be Harvard actually and this is tall enough to be the main part of the building or really it's the tower base he says and it's only part of it at Disney and here no the one in the the real house looks like the actual base of a tower

Hera

What are you looking at is the base of a tower with a different roof of course and without the tower and it is pretty big it's like four stories and the tower is not really huge and that's what it is in Florida it's like the beginning of what they were doing and you and he cracks they might try and get you in the real thing for some reason but that's really sure why it seems kind of crazy it is maybe them saying they're the real thing and they do that with the cars and people get really insanely jealous and angry one day he said you can drive around if you want it's all that let me drive and he said who and he heard the macaronis and he said oh he went in researched it and found out it's true he told a lot of people and he's around because of it and they got together to stuff start looking at it I said he's in trouble and saying it what are my number one for I don't think I requested that and they said well that's weird he has people and then they start to think about it and all sudden they said this these guys are calling them out and they're telling people who he is and the silently treating him different and they treated you different but it's wrong so that's what they're up to and we think they might switch out for the real thing and how is quite an idea and it is it is quite an idea what we say is they would build it for our specifications it'll look pretty much the same as the real thing and they would have the real thing ready nearby and people can see it no it would be close it'll be closed or in a tunnel and they would fly it in and pull the other one out and before the finishes are done on the inside and that's what drywall is for but that's quite an effort there are other ways to do it and one of them is to frame the house with the old framing members and they sometimes redress it it's not really the best but these are smooth and they're kind of darker but they'll say it's a different wood like redwood and it looks like redwood and he wouldn't care cuz it's a great building wood and bugs don't like it and is a hardwood it can get very strong and they build the frame they do the facade and probably do the front and the problem is it wouldn't match up right they do part of it and he comes back and it's done and they'd have a return and everything that's how you do it and they threatened to collapse it and stuff but we would have to make it so it doesn't fall apart and we can do that and it would be stuck pretty much forever and they wouldn't know it so there's a couple ways and they can also spray the woods so it looks lighter and there is a way to do that and it's not a stain and it's like bleaching it and it works it worked in westborough it made it look kind of red but it was still yellowish we think that's what they're going to do and rebuild it which is a pain in the ass. He's wondering where it is cuz if you look at the castle it doesn't look like the one in Florida and it really does not and that would be a real hell of a thing so he's going to look at that right now they're coming out of Saturn and they're forming up and your friends brothers and sisters are gone from the empire

Thor Freya

Olympus

Hera Zues

[3rddimension]

Hey so I've been following this blog and interacting w you a lot lately. I wanted to propose you consider the idea of turning the post into a separate tumblr blog where you'll be able to password protect it or at least implement a "no sharing the link on public platforms" rule somehow.

I understand the idea of keeping it public and how it's still relatively underground but I've seen the link for it posted on yt, reddit and ig just this past week. It seems everytime someone comments that they're not dating, a user will tell them to visit the Tumblr post and I don't think there's any way to be sure S or C won't find it somewhere in video comments. The link as it is now is basically compromised and very easily accessible.

I've heard c and s on separate occasions talk about funny smosh compilations ending up on their yt homepages, there's a chance they could stumble upon the link in the comments ANYWHERE at this point. If not s and c then possibly any other member of Smosh cast or crew, that's terrifying.

I genuinely think that if c found it, it'll look like the detective shartney discord all over again to her. And she'll never trust us or see us the same way again. There's a difference between us compiling things and feeling like it's all from public stuff so it's not that invasive, and her seeing a post like that about her own life/relationship. It could potentially drive her to be as private as S is since fans keep publicly discussing her dating life when she's said she wants it to be private time and time again. I'm pretty sure when she references cyberstalking she doesn't just mean that discord triangulating their locations/finding s's brother's house and shit but also fans doing these very specific posts dissecting everything single thing they or others around them post. Especially when we're basically inviting others to view these details so freely.

Any pics, videos and compilations you've posted here separately to point out something cute are no problem but the detailed timeline post and the discussion posts should be private or at least somewhat protected. I've been here since the beginning basically and I thought this would stay relatively underground but seeing poeple sharing this link so freely gives me the ick and makes it very hard to to even avoid the negative comments you've been getting on the post. It shouldn't be this easily accessible considering the circumstances.

I think how it could be instead is, any user who wants to access the timeline post is sent the link to your blog and you could post the password somewhere (without directly tagging sh*urtney or sm*sh). Or an alternative would be that they DM you to get the link/password to the private blog. I know password protected seems like a lot, the other option would be to move the post and discussion to a new blog and pin a post that discourages poeple from sharing the link on public platforms and encouraging them to DM it to each other instead but I don't think it would be easy to get people to follow that rule idk.

Lastly, a private blog obv doesn't mean we start getting more invasive and obsessive. The practices of this blog remain the same, the info shared and detailed discussions shall not cross a certain line regardless of the status of the blog, public or private.

That's something I have been noticed too is that there are spike of follower recently. Looks like it start to caught some wind.

What I was doing parallel with tumblr is that I posted the same thread on imgur with same description there and set it as unlisted. Which means it required the link to post but that also too easy to repost and share.

Let me figure out an easy way to do. I do have some more options. In the mean time I will removed the tag from the post. Also need to update imgur for now since I might decided to remove that tumblr post. imgur will be the backup.

Thanks anon for the head up! We need to figure this out before it catch even more attention.

[egg-emperor]

While I love Mike Pollock I have seen some tweets of him suggesting that he just doesn't want to be known for his work as Eggman and wants to discuss his other works more, he also liked the tweets of Flynn saying the same thing, I feel bad cause I send him a compliment for Eggman, do you know some of his other works? would like to know his other characters

Yeah, he's been trying to emphasize that for a long time and I don't know why some people have a problem with that because of course he'd want people to check out his other work, instead of only acknowledging his Sonic-related stuff and acting like he's just Eggman no matter what he does and nothing more, overlooking tons of his other great work that's entirely separate from it and is absolutely worth checking out. It's great that you have an interest in doing so and I'm happy to help you get started. :D

I've looked at a ton of his stuff over the years but he has hundreds and hundreds so I still haven't seen them all but I try to check out everything that's available to me. I've heard him in a bunch of TV shows, video games, movies, audio dramas, commercials. I have a game where practically every elderly guy in the game has his voice, Just Cause 3 lol. I have a plush that's voiced by him too!

I first heard him in Sonic X, Viva Pinãta, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2003 show, and Pokemon around the same time because of 4Kids dubbing. My favorite singular other roles of his that I've heard have to be Langston Lickatoad, the Garbageman, and Adon Coborlwitz. Though he's got a ton of other great roles in a bunch of stuff that's also definitely worth checking out.

Here's what he commonly links on Twitter as a good way to see a lot of it:

That definitely doesn't have everything in it though. There's stuff that isn't supposed to be general public knowledge and other things that haven't been listed on here yet. But it's still one of the ideal places to look! I enjoy picking any character, looking into how to find and listen to it, and the joy of being like "there he is!" when I find his voice in there and get to hear more of his incredible talent hehe.

His pure audio stuff isn't on there, I found out about those through his Twitter and a number of them were available on Spotify and were linked throughout his Twitter.

You can listen to more of his audio with comedy bits, parodies, demos, and other fun stuff on his SoundCloud:

Looking around on his website is a good place for more information and links to more stuff:

He also has a big playlist on YouTube with more things he's been in that have been uploaded there, including commercials!:

Obviously, not all of them are here because he's done so many that haven't been uploaded and some of my favorites were made private by the brand uploaders and I'll always be sad that I can't hear it again lol. He also has some cool stuff in other playlists on his YouTube channel. I also recommend watching more interviews and panels with him uploaded on others' YouTube channels if you haven't because it's really interesting to hear him talk about his work and he's charismatic, funny, and entertaining. ^^

I also recommend putting on post notifications on his Twitter to keep up with him sharing some of his newest work when they're announced and released because they don't get listed on websites after. I have to save stuff to my Twitter bookmarks or else I can't find the information and content again!

And there you go! Have fun. 🌟✨💜

[inukag]

I'm still kind of half-convinced they are gonna use the windmill to reverse the entire timeline of the show so that none of this shit happens. I think this based on 2 things I've seen so far:

1) Sesshomaru looks like he's gonna die, and I bet if that happens, they're gonna make it to where the Tensaiga can't bring him back, so they're gonna make it to where the girls have to change the timeline so that doesn't happen, and by extension, maybe even all the other stuff.

I just don't see Shitrise killing off their "favorite" character and leaving him dead permanently.

2) that one moment in I believe the new ED where the girls are in kimonos (where we see Moroha in miko garb and just looking so precious before she jumps back into her usual robes).

I just have a theory that that little moment w/ the girls is after they could've erased the current timeline and where they all (in the new timeline) grow up together and w/ their parents.

I also found out sometime ago that the screenwriter also worked on Sailor Moon, which was an anime that also had a history for changing/altering/erasing timelines or dimensions. And apparently YH has a history of ripping off or straight-up stealing stuff and plot from SM and other anime.

I'm just saying I feel like this could very well be a possibility.

Personally a very very small part of me (the part that still somewhat cares about what happens in this series) kind of wants that to be the case ONLY because InuKag and Moroha should never have been seperated, even if YH is a bad, non-canon, what-if fanfic.

Everything else can go burn in a ditch for all I care, but Inukag and Moroha really should get a do-over, even if the universe they were seperated in was an alternate universe (like YH).

That's the small of me though. The rest of me just wants this shitshow to preferably be cancelled, but if we have to see this crap to the end, the small part of me hope's for that ending solely for inukag and Moroha's benefit.

Oh definitely if Sesshomaru dies there's no way that will be permanent, people would be showing up at their offices with pitchforks lmao.

I've been wondering why they keep showing the girls in modern outfits too. They said before that time travel was going to be an important element but they literally haven't talked about it again since they arrived in the feudal era, lol. I STILL think the show would have been a lot more fun if it was a "reverse Inuyasha" where Moroha falls down the well and ends up stuck in the modern era and she has to go back.....

But yes she looked adorable in the ED with her miko outfit 😭

I haven't watched Sailor Moon myself but yes Sumisawa worked on it, and from what I heard the rainbow pearls plot is essentially copied from something he and/or the other writers added in the SM anime (x). If erasing timelines is something that also happened in Sailor Moon, then it's definitely possible they will do the same in Yashahime.

I don't know if I really care personally.... I just wanted a bit of serotonin from the inukagmor reunion (and potentially more interactions) but I know I will go back to pretending none of this ever happened afterwards lol. A time reset would make discussions easier with "casual fans" (and I know people will call me a gatekeeper again but by that I mean people who consider everything anime-only canon). But I never really talk about Inuyasha with anyone outside of tumblr so... it's not that big of a deal? Idk, it would definitely be better with a time reset for sure tho.

[bigskydreaming]

man that point about white writers racebending characters to talk abt racism is so true. like, in the first place as a POC i tend to find fanfic that uses characters as mouthpieces about racism to be really tasteless? and w batfam fic specifically, like you mentioned, a lot of the time it's white writers racebending white characters to have them make points that a) end up sounding performative, and b) if you REALLY needed to, there are characters like cass and duke and damian and dick (1/2)

who are there and already POC! and on top of that I know a lot of latines/Black people have expressed discomfort with specifically racebending jason esp. when coupled with his background and family circumstances. a lot of the time making [author's fave character] poc just starts to feel like a gotcha, esp when there are other characters of color who racism would /actually/ affect but whom the author doesn't want to explore lol (2/2)

*nods* Yeah I can't even imagine how frustrating that must be. I don't want to go too indepth here because I try to balance acknowledging and talking about the various issues like this in fandom while staying in my own lane as best I can, and that of course doesn’t mean I always manage to actually pull that off. But yeah.....this is definitely a thing, and the number of times I've seen white authors racebend Jason and Tim and make them front and center in stories that touch on racism and systemic injustices while sidelining not just Dick, but as you said Cass, Duke and Damian too (or often its having Jason and Tim bond with Damian OVER stuff like racism while ignoring the impact of these things on the other three).....its extremely gross, not to mention tone-deaf, given the claimed aims of most fics like this.

And I do think white authors in this fandom in particular, and in regards to Dick, need to do a lot more educating themselves about colorism and the fact that it is 100% an intra-community discussion for people of color that we have no place in, because all I can really say on that is there are a ton of fics BY white authors who nevertheless try and launch into some kind of point on colorism by writing Dick as white-passing and from there making a value judgment that the racism he endures is not that significant compared to his other siblings of color or his racebent siblings.....

But then at the same time, peppering their fics FULL of the g slur, when every usage of that by a non-Roma person, is LITERAL RACISM IN ACTION.

Like whether or not Dick is white-passing in anyone's eyes is utterly irrelevant to the racial and ethnic based discrimination he faces in someone's own fic, if they're habitually writing the g slur being dropped around and about him. They're literally writing him being subjected to racism based on the fact that everyone in Gotham knows who he is and where he comes from regardless of his appearance, and saying people in Gotham or the media and tabloids are using racial slurs in regards to him because of that knowledge.....and then often these authors are trying to at the exact same time minimize this as being not that bad, and saying Dick doesn't face that much actual racism because of his appearance.

What the actual fuck?

Anyway, Roma posters all over social media have asked time and time again that non-Romani NOT use the g slur, I know I reblog these posts at least every couple months, and I see them hardly ever reblogged from me or present on other Batfam blogs, and its fucked up that white bloggers and writers in this fandom are more comfortable implicitly engaging in takes on colorism in their fics than they are signalboosting Romani voices literally begging people to stop using the g slur.

Again, that's as far as I feel comfortable weighing in on that aspect of things in particular, but there needs to be a hell of a lot less anti-romanyism in Batfam fics and a lot more signalboosting of Romani voices and issues if fans have themselves convinced that their own racist takes on a Romani character aren't an issue because is he even really a character of color like racebent Latine Jason or Asian Tim? Etc.

And yes, back to what you said specifically, MANY black and Latine posters I'm familiar with have repeatedly expressed discomfort with racebending Jason as such in particular. There are of course certainly fans of color who racebend Jason and Tim to represent their own personal ethnicities because they're personal faves, which is why again as a white fan I'm certainly not advocating for other white fans to go around making a stink about this on the specific posts and fics of authors whose own ethnicities they don't actually know.....this is aimed purely at asking other white fans who read this to examine just their OWN PERSONAL CHOICES in regards to this kind of thing in fics.

Hope I didn't take this in a direction you weren't looking for it to go, I'm perfectly happy to just publish and boost your own points in asks along these lines if preferred, just lemme know.

[batarangsoundsdumb]

guess fucking what? my inbox is so fucking full right now i'm unloading all of this shit in one post.

For the 11th gotham memes: gothamites react to bruce being jacked in a tiktok he made with kids, like super yoked, ripped as hell

fucking hilarious thanks. i think i did it in one meme post, but i genuinely don't remember which one

i dunno which of the batfam would do this but one time i was sleeping over at a friends house and ended up on the floor bc the bed was so very small and i just stayed there because the rug was soft

that's a drunk jason move i don't know what to tell you

tim and jason are "i listen to pop punk" solidarity. whenever jason highjacks the batmobile theyll go on long ass car rides blaring mcr and paramore and then never talk about it again

as they should!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! tim: no jason it's my turn using the aux cord i gotta put on my jams jason: don't you dare put on weird shit tim: don't worry, you're gonna love this *plays fearless (taylor's version)

hear me out hear me out, red hood stans 🤝 nightwing stans t h i g h s

holy shit yes.

SNL au: Bruce breaks character when pretending to superman and says something like "I'm not superman! You've seen his gps!! It's from 2001!!!" @sabeanybabe

superman flies past the snl building the next day just to say 'actually it's from 2005, i'm not a heathen'

does your back hurt from carrying the batfam fandom

it hurts more from the exotic rock collection i keep in my backpack, but thanks for the concern.

I love your posts by why would you always leave the best parts in the tags?

as a treat for the people that check the tags ;) (and also because i'm committed to the short post aesthetic)

somehow your playlist was everything i never knew i needed. i mean it. this is my new favorite playlist.

and don't you dare get a new favourite playlist!

babe ur stoner tim playlist is exactly too perfect, earth is literally blessed by ur existence

babe thanks so much! i love my stoner tim playlist because it's just my usual playlist but people think it's an artistic choice that i put taylor swift and britney spears in there, when it's just what i unironically like listening to

JANDKSKDK BILLY RAY CYRUS ON THE STONER TIM PLAYLIST I LOVE IT IT

again it's not even an ironic choice, i know every single word and i genuinely like the song

The last chapter of Fundamentals of Casework has me crying at work. Thanks I love it @dudelookitsalesbian

oh babe, i'm sorry, but also, not sorry i love chapter 4 so much it's my lovechild with the 'mental illness' tag

soooo....stumbled on your tumblr by some stroke of fate??? read your DC fanfic first. which is PHENOMENAL btw. then found all the batmemes; the funniest thing EVER bc everyone forgets about regular old gothamites. kept scrolling and your blog pops up as recommended. clicked on the ao3 for shits and giggles and waddaya know?!?!? it's YOU!!! you're LEGEND!!!! ever seen that meme? it's a video of a cat that got into a baseball field and the two announcers get really invested in his escape attempt and start giving a play by play of the cat instead of the game. memeable moment: "GREAT stuff from the Cat!!!"

i seriously think about this ask every single day and it's so fucking funny to me that i've never seen the meme you're referencing, but i still find myself going 'GREAT stuff from the Cat!!!' whenever i see something funny. but wow i'm glad you liked this steaming pile of garbage

Fav dc character overall? And fav batfamily character?

don't ask me to pick between the loves of my life, but i can tell you i've cried about every single batfamily member and also wally west (my beloved)

What's your opinion on fans having a problem with batfam being "too big"? And some even claim that batfam is just "Bruce Alfred Dick Damian" and the rest of them are just "friends and allies" (source: reddit) Personally, I like batfam because of this reason but idk

stupid. a family can never be too big. i'm not that big a fan of like huge batfam stuff with everybody from every single universe, because as much as it's funny for bruce to have like 30 kids, it just feels a little too OOC for me.

This is the best tag I've seen involving the batfam, thanks for thinking of it

This is canon now @nctxrejects

lmao yeah i think at that point alfred has had to sit through like at least a dozen coming out talks and just has a pride flag collection in the attic that he pulls out whenever a kid comes out

idk why batfam hits different as compared to any other superhero family

bc it's found family and usually the other superhero families are almost all genetically related in one way or another

I don't know if you watch the umbrella academy but I saw your last post about batcest and saw the similarities. But the thing is (although I think it's weird) in TUA, they addressed it by saying "they were raised as weapons, not siblings" or something along those lines, which is simply not the case with batfam.

yeah i watched tua but i also thought it was ridiculous and they still treated each other as siblings so i didn't like the luthor/allison thing, and am glad they stopped doing that shit bc it fucking sucked.

Hot take: Batcest shippers are the same people who believe adopted siblings are not actual siblings

smoking hot take: batcest shippers are the people who watch 'my sister got stuck in the washing machine' porn

Duke was adopted by Bruce?

not technically no, but do i, tumblr user batarangsoundsdumb, look like i care?

True story but I had to change my freaking name because it used to be "Damien" and most people would go "OH LIKE DAMIAN WAYNE" like please I'm just tryna live

true story, but i don't actually think of damian when i hear the name damian, literally the first thing that pops up is damian darkh like bruh what?

apparently dc comics company supported comic stores by giving out new titles and stuff during the beginning of the pandemic to help them run and I just think that's wholesome

ah yeah that's so fucking cool, still don't like dc, the company, because this world is a capitalist hellhole and we're all owned by warner brothers or disney with no in between.

ayo looking at tumblr head canons and finding out bruce is actually a terrible father is a punch in the gut

lmao yes, in like 50% of comics bruce is a terrible father and it gives me whiplash

oooh I just saw the jason todd vs winter soldier post and the real question is: batman vs iron man

while iron man has like hundreds of cases of armor, batman could throw out an emp and have the guy dropping out of the sky in 2 seconds.

dickfast = fastdick = quickdick = quickie

magnum hot take

hey bata(?) just thought I'd let you know I have copied the obnoxious emoji and Billy Ray post for use on simping men going forth

thank you 😘🌷 (@spacebarsidecar)

why would you do that to your followers???? i get why i did it, but why would you???

what is scarecrow made the nightwing funko pop himself, like those diy-ers that paint over other ones

oh god no, horrible take, horrible take, that's a disgusting thought oh no

I see your HC that Bruce and Oliver fucked and raise you this: Dick and Roy ALSO fucked

yes they did and it was a horrible moment for jason to find out dick has fucked both of his best friends

"at this rate bruce adds like 1 child to his family every decade or so" Duke is introduced in 2013, Damian as Damian, not as an unnamed child, in 2006. And he is already 14 years old, Robins rarely remain Robins after 16 😬 It looks like a new Robin and Batkid will appear in a couple of years

i mean i can't wait? but somebody will probably die first tho, we're due for another major character death. my money's on either cass or duke this time.

BRO you're so right all of your Bruce's ex headcanons are amazing but they aren't ships, that's kinda wild. Like I don't want any peeks into how their relationship was I just want to see everyone make fun of them

lmao YES it's just i love bruce being a slut, like good for him.

I am in love with your posts your honour thank you

omg thanks are we like,, gonna kiss now?

The justice league needs to have a meeting to discuss how many of their members/partners have slept with bruce. Because through a combination of cannon & fannon (if DC wasn’t homophobic) we have AT LEAST: 1) clark 2) lois 3) oliver 4) dinah 5) john

Thats not counting villains or random civilians @dudelookitsalesbian

yes yes yes, they'll have a yearly meeting about how many of their collective exes could be out for revenge and batman's list just keeps getting longer.

tim was like "i'm drake now" and everyone was like ahh so your fursona is a dragon and tim was like pffffft no. ducks.

and what about it?

when steph's fighting livewire and she zaps her with lighting and nothing happens and then they both just. stand there awkwardly for a second and talk. yeah i couldn't stop laughing at that batgirl steph is the BEST

oh yeah that was fucking hilarious and i think it would be so cool and sexy of dc to give steph a little comic series,,, as a treat

Hi I absolutely adore all of yours "Bruce and Oliver very badly pretending they didn't fuck each other" memes

lmao i do too

I need you to know that “Bruce Wayne had frosted tips” is one of my favorite Bruce takes of all time it’s so galaxy brained. you’re right and you should say it

he also painted his hair blonde once when he was travelling and in conclusion, this is why he's being blackmailed by the gotham gazette.

you know my thing about gordon being branded as the only good cop in gotham is its a load of shit like arguably he's a good person and not working to screw people over or anything but the fact that he also works w. batman makes him a shit cop. like yea batman is better than the mob but its still illegal its still an abuse of power he just not making bank

babe, all cops are bad cops. (but yeah youre absolutely right, working with vigilantes makes you a shit cop, but also working against vigilantes just makes you an asshole cop yanno?)

ruh roh i think i’m about to add “so not yeehaw” every time i don’t like something

that's a very good vocabulary upgrade

somehow i feel like steph already knew. like babs obviously knew but i feel like bruce got high/drunk in front of steph and started telling his boarding school stories and steph was just like “oh you fucked up i’m never gonna forget this”

steph and bruce have weird uncle/rebellious niece dynamic and they just hang out sometimes and bruce will be like 'i once broke my arm when i tripped over a hedge when i was drunk so oliver drove me to the hospital on an electric scooter' and steph will just have to sit there with that knowledge in her head.

Hello I just wanted to tell you you are So right in all your steph opinions bc she is, in fact amazing and I think that's very sexy of you. Ps. Your Bruce/Oliver fic is hilarious

babe, thank you so much and yes steph is amazing and i love her and she deserves the world and she's the best member of the batfam hands down. also thanks

In Supersons we see a couple of kids that are implied to be Damian and Jon's children and the boy has laser eyes and can fly, so I asume he's not adopted. The girl, who calls Bruce grandpa, can also fly, btw. So it's canon (probably by accident) that Jon can have kids and he must have married one of Bruce's kids. (I'm hoping for Damian, mostly because any other of his children would be waaaaaaaaaaaaay too old.) @artemisa97

lmao that was probably an accident seeing as jon is a 17 year old superhero in the year 3000 (by the jonas brothers)

You know, I'm a die hard fan of your memes, but I gotta say one thing: if Gothamites actually took gas mask everywhere with them, then the Scarecrow would just be a weird dude in a weird costume, and not a villain oh so scary. DC really should just takes notes from you.

bold of you to assume there's no gothamite anti-maskers

How does it feel being the funniest person on this app?

horrible, next question.

I can't listen to Green Day or Billy Joel without thinking of your post about how Bruce got arrested at a Billy Joel concert @nightwings-kid

yeah that's your mistake, i on the other hand can't enjoy billy joel without thinking about the glee rendition of 'uptown girl'

I've FINALLY been watching the Batman animated series and I gotta say, after watching "the gray ghost" I am CONVINCED that Batman is a closeted super hero geek who was 100% freaking out the first time he met Superman and is just REALLY good at hiding it.

superman: so what do you do in your free time? batman, thinking about the superman fanfiction he's writing on the batcomputer: i have no free time

bruce and oliver be like boyfriends to co-workers 401k (do the justice leagues get 401ks??? not that bruce and ollie would need them, but-)

lmao yes just 400 thousand words of bruce realising 'oh dip oliver is such a fucking dumbass' (also i don't know what a 401 k is but i assume they don't?)

Gothamites would totally boo superman as he saves Gotham while batman is out. @meenje

he's like 'okay think about that next time you want to be saved from an alien octopus'

I just took long break from dc comics and I come back to see ric grayson ??

i think it's very cool and sexy of dc to see dick and just think 'you know what? let's just give him a traumatic brain injury' and then didn't develop his character in any real way

SPEAKING OF RIC GRAYSON, gothamites making confused memes out of ric grayson is much needed

'dick grayson is my taxi driver? can anyone explain what the fuck happened he looks like an italian plumber?'

i hate to say it but batfam are def "marvel characters" in that sense they are characters who are human but become superheroes unlike most dc characters who are gods trying to be human maybe this is why I like batfam

fair enough