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The character development we watch for Athena is honestly so fascinating and im so glad we get to watch her grow
She went from laughing at Odysseus when he had said “Goddess and man. Bestest of friends!” and saying, herself, “You're not looking for a mentor. I'm not looking for a friend.” Before she abandoned him for 10 years
To admitting she’s lost sleep over him, to constantly calling him her friend, to taking a fucking LIGHTING BOLT to the face if it means she gets to save him.
#epic the musical#epic#epic: the musical#the wisdom saga#epic wisdom saga#epic troy saga#epic cyclops saga#athena#athena goddess of wisdom#odysseus#my post#jorge i love you#thank you for EPIC#i am forever greatful
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i hate this man
anyway— I WAS DUCKING RIGHT!!!!! THE PROPHECY FULFILLS
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THIS IS NOT A FUCKING DRILL OMG
ITS OUT GO LISTEN RIGHT NOW
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is this gonna be another jorge sprint win or are the bitches gonna step up
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More doodles I made post-Wisdom saga of my favorite trio 🥹🥹 (I just ripped off the canon design bc I hadn’t designed her at this point lol)
#Can you tell I love rizzless smitten ody#epic the musical#epic athena#epic the wisdom saga#fanart#epic odysseus#epic telemachus#odypen#artists on tumblr#jorge rivera herrans#xria art
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something something seeing things through different eyes
#tigerghost#art student manny is my FAVORITE of jorge guitierrez's plans for his life. i LOVEEEE that sm#danny takes him to the ghost zone for some mission reason and hes like OHHH MY GOD THIS IS SICK AS FUCK#ITS AWAKENED LATENT FINE ART IMPULSES IN ME!!#meanwhile danny kind of tolerates being in the GZ but its very much like. not a place where Good things happen to him#hes grown accustomed to it and he loves certain things about it but he will never be fond of it and that sort of colors his perception of i#so manny coming in like WHOAH AND YOURE THE /KING/ HERE? THINK OF ALL THE COOL ASS GHOSTS YOU CAN MEET! THE AWESOME GHOST LANDS!#THE FLOATING GREEN STUFF!!!#gives him a little bit of that first-time wonder back :')#anyways the style is HEAVILY cribbed from anastasia trusova who i HIGHLY recommend checking out#when im rich and famous i shall buy many of her pieces#ntu tag#designs as always tm tm tm tumblr user nicktoonsunite#also mannys jersey was kept safe by his Painting Shirt (now tied about his waist) you know his apartment is eclectic af#but quite clean. he got the stress cleaning habit from his dad
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Homer!Odysseus and Epic!Odysseus would try to kill each other if they ever met
#Homer!Odysseus: you sacrificed your men to save yourself? Detestable coward! How I wish I was never born if it would ensure you had not the#Epic!Odysseus: you’d understand if you *loved your wife.* But I guess a guy who stayed with Circe for a year wouldn’t know that!#H!Odysseus: do not speak of things you know nothing about! I long for my return to sweet Penelope but I have a duty to my men#E!Odysseus: A YEAR. A WHOLE YEAR. I WOULD KILL ANYTHING AND ANYONE TO GET A HOME A YEAR FASTER#H!Odysseus: that was clear when you served Scylla six men like they were cattle!#E!Odysseus: it was them or me! And don’t keep talking about my friends like you did any better. you’ll go home alone too#H!Odysseus: they doomed themselves when they ate Hyperion’s golden cattle. I am not responsible for their suffering. But you could have ens#H!Odysseus: Now Eurylochus’s body lies at the bottom of the sea where there can be no burial and no honour#E!Odysseus: AND I’LL GO HOME TO MY WIFE. MY BEAUTIFUL PERFECT LOVELY LOYAL WIFE WHO’S BEEN WAITING FOR ME FOR TWENTY YEARS.#E!Odysseus: and when I go home and she asks if I came back as fast as I could I’ll be able to answer honestly#H!Odysseus: WE HAD BEEN THROUGH MANY TRIALS. THE MEN NEEDED TO REST#E!Odysseus: FOR A YEAR???? DID THEY NEED TO REST FOR A YEAR??? AND DID THEY NEED THAT REST RIGHT AFTER A MONTH’S LONG REST WITH AEOLUS??? S#H!Odysseus: IF YOU WISHED FOR ITHACA SO DESPERATELY WHY DIDN’T YOU OBEY PALLAS ATHENA AND KILL THE CYCLOPS#E!Odysseus: *drawing sword* I WAS HAVING A ROUGH DAY#Epic the musical#Epic odysseus#The odyssey#odysseus#Homer#Greek mythology#Jorge rivera-herrans#nuclear war speaks
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Penelope like you come here after 20 years, I was waiting, and now you have the AUDACITY to imply I wouldn't love you anymore?? Okay then how about you take your bed and get the fuck out of her. Oh what's that, you can't do that? That's what my husband would say you idiot, you don't get to come back here after all this time and say you're not my husband how DARE you do that you think you're the only one who's been waiting you beautiful moron of course you're my husband of course I fucking love you I didn't wait all this time just for you to show up here and say that I don't, now stop asking stupid questions
#epic the musical#I love her all the morr for this#so does he I bet#epic the ithaca saga#ithaca saga spoilers#would you fall in love with me again#jorge rivera herrans
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Never getting over Penelope matching Odysseus’ wits, his love, his intensity, and generally his freak. There was no other way to write their reunion. Jorge we had nothing but faith in you and you wholeheartedly delieved
#like i said more herent and comprehensive post in the morning#but jorge i j love you and your writing#holy fuck#jorge rivera herrans#epic#epic ithaca saga#epic the musical
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spoilers for the vengeance saga!!!!
what i love about the poseidon and odysseus dynamic is that throughout the sagas they both used each others words/threats back against them/each other.
like in remember them in the cyclops saga you have odysseus shouting to polyphemus
"I AM YOUR DARKEST MOMENT"
which in ruthlessness in the ocean saga, poseidon doesn't shout it but does coldly repeat the words back to odysseus after murdering 500+ of his men.
and of course you had poseidon also saying (before the murder of 500+ men)
"so close your heart, the world is dark and ruthlessness is mercy-"
and now in six hundred strike in the vengeance saga, the tables have turned and poseidon is at odysseus's mercy (and very clear lack of) that while STABBING HIM WITH HIS OWN TRIDENT REPEATEDLY, odysseus throws poseidon's words back at him (while being all stabby stab stab)
"told me to close my heart"
"you said the world was dark"
"didn't you say that ruthlessness is mercy upon our-"
like damn odysseus, impaling a god repeatedly with his own weapon ain't enough huh?
#god i love jorge and his constant callbacks/throwbacks to lines from the other sagas#odysseus is the monster rawr rawr rawr#the moment poseidon saw him pick up his trident#you know internally he was like#i immediately regret this decision#odysseus#poseidon#epic: the vengeance saga#epic: the musical#the vengeance saga#epic the vengeance saga#the vengeance saga spoilers#jorge rivera herrans
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Could you draw some epic Hera? (Your design or whatever you like)
Omg... Mom? Okay, I love her design!
Iii think I should've made her a bit older... Y'know, to fit that "single mom in her late 40's that talks shit bout everyone"
Also, her earings has eyes... Literal eyes, she can see with them! (Like aaaallll peacock feather on her outfit has... You just haven't seen her from the back)
#my art#nail art#sketch#epic hera#epic the musical#epic wisdom saga#hera#olympus' mom#i like her song in God games soooooo muuuuchhhhhh!#i was literally acting like a hermes from that small tik tok that Jorge posted!#“I LOVE YOU#DARLING!“
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Jorge writing a whole musical about when does a man become a monster only for Penelope to go it doesn't matter because that man is ALWAYS my husband
#epic the musical#jorge rivera herrans#penelope#odysseus#when does a man become a monster?#Penelope: not gonna lie the monster is kinda hot#Penelope: have you considered that I have loved the man a lot and have known the monster for 5 seconds and am already deeply in love#(Which honestly is a really big point t of the heros journey that's often missed)#Penelope: have you considered odysseus THAT IVE ALSO BEEN WAITING 20 YEARS#Itacha saga#Itacha saga spoilers#Epic the musical spoilers#Odypen
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I'm sorry but "After all you've done, how are you going to sleep at night?" "Next to my wife." from the Vengeance Saga of Epic the Musical is SO Jason Todd coded and you can't tell me otherwise. You just KNOW that that man would go through HELL and do absolutely ANYTHING for you
#I just love unhinged men for their woman#We love to see it#Jason todd my beloved#Jason todd#Jason todd x reader#Epic the musical#The vengeance saga#Thank you Jorge for this masterpiece we all say in unison
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can you draw Penelope and Telemachus?
used to sloanslone's designs bc i have yet to come up with my own THEY ARE SO AKJWNAKBDNQ
#telemachus and penelope you deserved so much better#I SHOULDVE DRAWN LITTLE TEL PROTECTONG PEN FROM SUITORS STOP#telemachus of ithaca i love you for the mama's boy you are#ngl odysseus was rigbt i would kill 700 people and monsters for them too#odysseus x penelope#penelope of ithaca#the odyssey#odyssey#odypen#penelope of sparta#penelope of ithica#penelope#telemachus epic the musical#telemachus#odysseus#epic the wisdom saga#epic the musical fanart#epic fanart#epic telemachus#telemachus of ithaca#penelope epic the musical#epic musical#epic the musical#epic odysseus#jorge rivera herrans#epic the vengeance saga#the oddyssey#epic fandom#homeric epics#epic
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This came to me earlier, and now I am utterly obsessed: While it was clear to me that Odysseus stabbing Poseidon wasn't any kind of Vengeance, there was one act of Vengeance after all, even if inadvertent—it was Odysseus disproving Poseidon's "Ruthlessness is mercy upon ourselves" belief right in front of his very eyes. With him as the subject, even.
Think about it—the fact that Poseidon remained ruthless and insisted on punishing Odysseus was the only reason he got stabbed repeatedly. If Poseidon had been merciful, if he had accepted Odysseus' offer of forgiveness, he would've been fine. His own ruthlessness backfired so hard on him this time that I am sincerely hoping it haunts him forever.
I am actually utterly obsessed with Poseidon thinking back to Odysseus "Maybe you could learn to forgive?" on a daily, no an hourly basis. I cannot and will not lie to you that is unironically my favorite moment in the whole Vengeance saga just because of what it says about both the characters—about Odysseus for offering and Poseidon for declining (and also because Odysseus sings it in Poseidon's own motif which is just absolutely brilliant.) And this makes me love it even more.
Poseidon was going to decline, we all know that. I don't think anyone watching—even Odysseus, probably—expected him to accept. But then I'm picturing him lying there, bleeding into the stone, and, against his will, wondering whether maybe he should have. Maybe if he had, he wouldn't be in pain. Maybe if he had not killed Odysseus' fleet ten years ago, he wouldn't be in pain either. Maybe this one time ruthlessness wasn't mercy upon himself—maybe this time, his one grand belief was wrong. Maybe ... it was always wrong.
Obviously, he would never admit to these thoughts, he would slap himself for having them one second later. But I simply need this self-proclaimed god of ruthlessness to be utterly haunted by that and question whether he made the right choice or no—whether he's even lived by the correct philosophy all his immortal life—and no matter what, be too stubborn to admit he was wrong.
He's trying to pretend like nothing changed, but the thoughts still remain. They pester him. They won't leave him alone. Especially every time someone—anyone—is kind to him for whatever reason, they come crashing back into him and they won't leave.
"What if my own ruthlessness hurt me that time?"
"What if ruthlessness isn't mercy upon ourselves after all?"
"What if I'm wrong?"
"What if I have always been wrong?"
The most dreadful thoughts imaginable to a god as proud and stubborn and old as Poseidon, but they're there now and he can't do anything about them. You all don't understand how much I NEED this god to jolt up in his bed at 3 am after having a dream or nightmare about something related to one of his many ruthless deeds (maybe even sinking Odysseus' fleet) and go "BUT WHAT IF I HAD LEARNED TO FORGIVE?? WHAT IF I STILL COULD??" only to immediately slap himself for it because that's absolutely ridiculous.
He is left to watch this belief shatter before his very eyes as he's clinging to the remains of it desperately, trying to keep it all from crumbling. Not because he genuinely believes he's right anymore, but because he simply cannot imagine ... does not know how to live by any other philosophy.
No matter whether it's objectively correct or not, it's the very thing that defines him. The thing he's known for. He has built his entire image around this, he cannot give it up no matter what ... at least not quickly or without help.
But as much he would seek to deny it, his core belief has now been proven wrong; he has actually lived through an instance where it was wrong, and he can do nothing to erase those memories or conclusions from his mind no matter how much he yearns to go back to simpler times.
And that was the real Vengeance, guys—possibly the biggest, most painful existential crisis of Poseidon's immortal life. I rest my case.
Although before I disappear back into the void I simply must give a shout out to @o3o-lapd-o3o (this came to me during a conversation in one of their comment sections for the glorious Friends In Higher Places AU, which is quite possibly my favorite piece of EPIC fan content that exists ...)
#poseidon epic#epic the musical#epic musical#epic the vengeance saga#epic odysseus#poseidon#jorge rivera herrans#i have never believed in ruthlessness is mercy#but thank you so much odysseus for proving me right#with ruthlessness of your own#how very poetic#poseidon having an existential crisis over being too stubborn for redemption is sth i didnt know i needed#i wanna believe he gets there eventually#a few centuries later#odysseus has no idea what he did btw#he stabbed poseidon and that was that#he probably didnt think he could so much as make him question this#someone somewhere out there eventually notices maybe#HAVE I MENTIONED HOW OBSESSED I AM WITH ODYSSEUS' “MAYBE YOU COULD LEARN TO FORGIVE?” YET#because I AM#that god killed your whole fleet#thunder saga!odysseus would not have offered this#i love the subtle hints at odysseus' positive development in this saga almost more than anything#the only thing I don't love about them is that they're so subtle a majority of people don't notice them#friends in higher places au?#am i allowed to tag this as that ouo#epicssay
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calypso's "ody, get away from the ledge" , "ill stay inside your heart" and "stay in my open arms" paralleling eurylochus, ody's mom and polites respectively
then it starts playing REPRISES OF THEIR MAIN SONGS.
jay when i get you jay jay when i get you when i GET YOU JAY WHEN I GET YOU JAY WHEN
#aughthghh i cant chat#calypso ily but holy shit i hate you#her voice is so pretty while singing the Horrors#calypso#epic the musical#odysseus#jorge rivera herrans#wisdom saga#love in paradise#the void
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