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What did you feel/how did you react when you find out about how jiang Cheng lost his core?
HELLO ANON IM SORRY YOU SENT THIS SO LONG AGO BUT I AM AWFUL AT RESPONDING PLS FORGIVE ME I LOVE THIS QUESTION 😭😭😭
to actually answer i think i audibly screamed
to learn that prideful, ambitious, angry jiang cheng willingly sacrificed himself for wei wuxian in full connaissance of cause, fully expecting to die for his (adoptive) brother, it absolutely broke my heart
and to learn of this in the same breath as learning that jiang cheng will never tell wei wuxian what he did, that not only will jiang cheng will never know how important he really was/is to wei wuxian, but that wei wuxian will never know how much jiang cheng love/d him never know just how far his adoptive brother was willing to go for him — to learn that they are utterly irreconcilable at this point, but that neither of them would go back to change the sacrifices they made for the other — yeah there were tears, so many tears.
like i still almost can’t believe how tragic it is
#jiang cheng oh jiang cheng 😭😭😭#thank you for the ask really really!! i’m sorry it took so long to answer you’re probably forgotten you even sent this i’m so sorry 😥#mdzs#jiang cheng#wei wuxian#yunmeng siblings#gwen gets an ask
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WHERE DO I SIGN UP?!
Jiang Cheng was 5th most handsome eligible bachelor. Jiang Cheng also has all the charisma and social grace of an angry rattlesnake. Therefore I posit that he must actually be one of the most beautiful of the young masters. Like actually so very pretty.
Anyway, in this essay I will-
#am I a Xicheng Truther?#yes absolutely#can i also see them as best friends?#oh for sure#i love the idea that Jiang Cheng is a completely different version of himself at Lotus Pier#we really only ever see him at his worst 😭
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Episode 40 (aka Hold me, I am not ready for this!! 😭)
Gods I think I love Xue Li almost as much as Xiao Heng.
And that dude loves her a LOT.
LOOK at how he looks at her. LOOK!!
"Kill Xiao Heng and we'll live happily ever after"... dude, you have completely lost touch of reality. How can you believe for even a fraction of a second that she'd do that, that she'd choose you over him? She just told you a moment ago that she'd rather die with him that be with you.
YES XUE LI!!! Put the next one through his eye please!
Actually no, don't kill him. Let him live and suffer and regret.
"Killing you would dirty my hands." You tell him girl. He's nothing. He's not worth the blood on your hands.
I reckon 75% chance he's gonna throw himself off the battlements anyway. Coward.
Ahahahaaaa he's standing on the edge! Am I right? Am I?
CALLED IT!! 😂😂
Last thing he saw was her walking away. Love that for him.
Ooooh she's gonna cut her own throat on the sword....
Shiiit where's that tumblr image of apollo's dodgeball? I'm getting too good at this.
There goes your last leverage, shithead.
Aaaaand there goes your ability to breathe anything other than blood.
Yeah baby, get your revenge.
Ey up, the wind machine's back.
Hahahaa fucking hell grandpa Xiao making Xiao Heng serve him drinks on the excuse that he was injured saving Xue Li?! I'm pretty sure Xiao Heng was actually *more* injured - he took at least 3 sword slashes in the battle with Lord Cheng!
Okay but now I am really intruiged/worried cos the rebellion is over and there's like 30-odd minutes (and the much giffed scene of Xiao Heng in his armour with the pendant in his teeth) left to go so... wtf is gonna happen now?
Oooh Xiao Heng's going north to protect the border...
Bros 4eva!
Daddy Xue's back? For reals?
"She's got a husband now, how can she go back with us?" 😂
Awww and she's got daddy's approval for this one too! 😁
What do you think she means, Su Guogong, you dumbass? You gotta make that place fit for a wife! 😁
Hahaha Xiao Heng has bluescreened again!
It's kinda disturbing how rare it is in a cdrama for the main couple to get together, both survive and get to happily marry. HOWEVER... there's still 20 minutes and that scene to go!! 😭😭
Also am i the only one that keeps getting very nervous about the combination of wind machine, billowing drapes, and naked flame candles... 😬
Is she gonna admit to pappa Jiang that she's not Jiang Li? I'm pretty sure he already knows...
Yeeeeeah that's a nice lie Xue Li but it's a lie nonetheless. She did suffer and she was in pain. But okay...
I want this to be between you and me - and all the servants that just overheard our conversation.
Shit I thought for a second there he'd stroked out and died on the spot! 😂
This feels like she's saying goodbye to the Jiang family for good. She's married into the Xiao family now and the Jiang family are leaving the capital... and she's not really related to them, she's got no real reason to see them again...
Shijie is just too goddamn good and precious.
Ooft one thing that bugs me about the subs in this is that they don't properly translate titles/honorifics, they translate everything to the person's name. So the significance of her calling him ge is entirely lost to anyone who doesn't understand at least a little bit of Chinese.
(Also they do this with single syllable names which is even more egregious. They translate didi as Zhao, they don't even have the fucking courtesy to make it A-Zhao)
Awww I am sad that the haircombing scene was just her imagination... and I'm also worried that it's some kind of portent... 😭
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THEY KILLED LU JI!!!! 😭😭😭😭
I don't deserve this. After 40 episodes i do not deserve this how could you do this to me
Okay but Wen Ji I feel you fam I really do but Xiao Heng needs help!!
YOU BASTARDS!!
WHYYYYYYYYY??!! WHY DID YOU HAVE TO DO THIS TO ME?!! Why could they not just have a happy ending? What plot purpose does this even serve at this point?
Oh thank fuck I genuinely thought it was gonna end with it implying he was about to die on the battlefield.
I am dead. RIP me.
This was a fucking RIDE and I LOVED IT.
(Apart from them killing Lu Ji and Wen Ji for no reason 😭😭😭)
#the double#the double spoilers#holy shit what a ride#i am legit exhausted#truly one of the best cdramas i've ever watched though I think
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Pursued by lesser ghosts 😭😭😭😭 are they gonna figure it out. Let JC in there
Hello, anon! Perhaps I will also link Pursued by Lesser Ghosts for context, since it took me so long to answer this ask. (You do need an AO3 account to read it.) It's wangxian with left zhanchengxian. Left in the sense that both chengxian and zhancheng had previously occurred, and they have left Jiang Cheng behind! (Sorry, I couldn't resist.)
In my heart, they figure it out, but I’m never going to write that because they are all in WILDLY different places and that would take... so long. This is partly what makes it interesting to rotate to me, because I think it’s a situation where the way any of the people involved would describe the facts in a relatively similar and nonchalant way, but their intellectual frameworks for the facts and emotional experience of the facts are so wildly disconnected that getting all three on the same page would be, uh, challenging. Rough character notes below.
Wei Wuxian:
Feels like JC should be mad at him, since he projects guilt about JYL already on to JC. additionally hates JFM’s treatment of JC but in total denial about both what the treatment means and how he feels about it. LWJ’s rejection and replacement of JC with WWX is going to trigger all of that BECAUSE it brings WWX's past understanding of JC into conflict with his current understanding of JC.
In the past, WWX’s JC feelings were positive; therefore any negative treatment by JFM had to be denied (and also Fixed by WWX).
WWX’s JC feelings are now negative, partly because of the projection and self-blame, and partly because of ongoing resentment about the core transfer (VERY traumatic plus the feeling like that degree of devotion and sacrifice was not reciprocated).
The emotional experience of REPLACING JC AGAIN is an experience that belongs to WWX’s childhood self, who loved JC and was extremely possessive and protective of him (the JZX beatdown was triggered finally by the insult about JC).
Also triggers memories of childhood > adulthood intimacies (some degree of sexual contact as teenagers that both of them “forgot about”).
WWX also terminally unable to leave shit alone, and now there’s a mystery about HIS HUSBAND and HIS SHIDI.
LWJ is just like “oh we had sex sometimes” but JC is a prude who doesn’t do that and only lets WWX touch him??? This is not a sufficient answer for WWX??? [meltdown]
CONFLICT CONFLICT CONFLICT KABOOM
Jiang Cheng:
I mean, Mr. Abandonment and Betrayal Issues got some feedback about what had happened, and that feedback was “it was duty, I never loved you like you loved me, let me go” (WWX) PLUS “now that the person who is better than you, who I really love, is here, I will replace you with him and never look back because you are Bad” (LWJ).
On one hand, closure! On the other hand, what if every childhood belief and fear about yourself all came true at once? Wouldn't that be fun? (I mean, the ones which had not already happened and left most of your family dead.)
Like he worked so hard to be good for love (root of childhood issues -> “if I am very good maybe dad will love me eventually and mom will finally be happy”) and this functions as proof that it has NEVER culminated in that love being returned.
I also don’t know how much he was aware of LWJ’s fixation on WWX before/during the time they were sleeping together. how blindsided he feels would change depending on that.
Also will blame himself for it (see childhood coping mechanisms… so abandonment by LWJ is “his fault” because he “should have expected it”).
He is. He is not doing so good. Genuinely bad to contemplate and I don’t know how you fix that, like, degree of damage.
He also Never Gives Up and JL is still alive so he’s not going to kill himself but like. it ain’t good.
Lan Wangji:
To me, this is the chewiest problem. Because he has these rigid categories of “good” and “bad” but is also missing a lot of information about what happened between JC and WWX (such as the fake fight/removal from the sect), he's made up his mind but it's based on incomplete information.
Also like, he's not particularly empathetic (so questions like “how would you feel if someone you unconditionally trusted accidentally killed your beloved sibling?” are ones he has perhaps never contemplated?)
IMO this intersects in a pretty ugly way with his canon sadism during the period he has a sexual relationship with JC. I would have to make some decisions about how bad that was, but I don’t think it’s good. I think JC goes along with it partly as a form of self-harm and partly because JC is under a lot of stress, touch-starved, and is genuinely pretty submissive in bed? But has no standards about it (healthy!) and doesn't know how to protect himself.
Initially this is fine to LWJ because it “doesn’t count” and “JC is bad” so LWJ doesn’t have to feel bad about how he treats JC.
But if it was a multi-year intermittent thing, I think that might change? Because I don’t think LWJ is actually that cruel, just inflexible and not great at people.
So they hook up semi-often and LWJ perceives JC worrying about JL, about YMJ, and to some degree about him (offers him salve for his scars, inquires semi-rudely about family, feeds him thoughtful vegetarian foods when around each other) and they get comfortable and sometimes they spend the night together and LWJ gets a lot less mean but not any better at talking…
But even as their behaviours change, LWJ’s mental model doesn’t, so when WWX returns, he just, like, ditches JC without any discussion whatsoever.
And he gets everything he thought he wanted!! And he’s happy about a lot of it but feels Weird in a way that he can’t articulate or explain.
So to get him to the throuple, his whole understanding of what they were doing with each other and what JC’s behaviour signified would have to change. On the other hand, he is now married to the nosiest and most determined man in the world and that man is going to ask him a LOT of questions.
He just has SO far to go. I think both WWX and JC at least understand that a loss happened, but LWJ hasn’t worked that out yet. He's feeling it, but hasn't been able to articulate it to himself because of how it conflicts with his beliefs.
So getting them all to kiss would be really hard work. I think they do, though!
#anon asks#asks#jiang cheng#wei wuxian#lan wangji#zhanchengxian#mdzs +#least-carpet thoughts#my fanfic
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thanks for the tag mi mapachito @eohachu 😘
rules: make a poll with five of your all time favourite characters and then tag five people to do the same. see which character is everyone's favourite!
Oh that was hard. I couldn't even choose between jc and wwx. How could I? I have two hands and- let me stop there.
Tagging: @radellama @furupops @sugarbabywenkexing @veliseraptor @psqqa @aemondtargaryenss @davinciae @svibian @elysean @majestictortoise
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@mikkeneko your take is correct actually
Swapping JC and LXC's endings is the most obvious WTF, but at least the characters are making(wildly OOC) choices, instead of zoning out thinking about what to have for dinner or something. There's a REASON WWX isn't awake for that scene! I honestly think it would be more in character for him to join in and emotionally destroy JC himself. You can say a lot of things about WWX but you can't say he's PASSIVE.
How do I put this. If CQL WWX had been awake for the golden core reveal, whether he was okay with the reveal or not (nope), the actual scene simply would have been the yunmeng idiots climbing over each other like a couple of hamster-wolverines, slamming each others’ snouts into the sand, and screaming at each other in hypersonic rodent vocalizations. The content is negotiable, but no one would have just been standing there.
#mdzs#oh god#like#i understand wwx as a somewhat older sibling#there's so much#just there in that dynamic#and as an older sib#I CANNOT HATE JIANG CHENG FOR THE THINGS HE DOES#ofc he hoes insane#BUT THATS GRIEF#that's so much grief just encompassing that man#😭😭😭#wwx too but like he got to uhhhh die and like restart his computer#he got a *chance* (albeit fucked up) to start over#jc just had to keep going
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I'm going to start MDZS properly tonight, after years and years. I tried for the first time back in the midst of The Untamed hype (which was my first successfully watched c-drama and my introduction to danmei) but that fan translation was just one giant nope. I'm not expecting anything new or exciting from this book at this point. I did watch the drama after all, skimmed through the fan translation, read bits and pieces of it out of order and at random over the years, and have been through ALL the fandom wank and shipping wars. But I still feel guilty for never having fully read it, so here we are 😔
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Well, that's horrible.
Being stabbed by Jiang Cheng sounds easier.
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Eat the rich, etc.
This gross bully can't even do his smashing himself, he must send servants to do it for him. If there ever was a worthy candidate for being swallowed by an evil curse, he is it.
I feel like Mo Xuanyu would have been great friends with Mo Ran. Wei Wuxian probably would be too. Mistreated orphans, unite!
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I haven't been the biggest fan of 7seas art in these books so far but this one, I like 🖤
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LMAO, aww, baby is offended people think he was a malicious ghost 🖤
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Crying 🤣🤣
"Decent" and "honest" wandering ghost 🤣🤣
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LMAO, he's so bad at this "malicious ghost" business 🤣🤣
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Oh, yes, he would have been such good friends with Mo Ran 🤣🤣
They even like the same type of men 🤣🤣
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Going into this book with all the spoilers is a special kind of fun. You get to catch stuff like this:
Just knowing what he went through in the Jiang family, the gratitude he felt he owed to Jiang Fengmian, how restricted and restrained he was by them, the constant not to be an embarrassment to them.
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LMFAO
Don't worry, baby, you'll marry the best 😊
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Reading this is coming along so slowly. Who told me to read three books at once? 😭
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Their souls returned??
I never realized this was what was happening. I thought he was just animating the corpses. IDK how I feel about that. The dead should rest in peace. Summoning souls to do your dirty bidding is going too far.
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The Untamed review: episode two!!
Yes, Wei Wuxian, Little Apple IS a picky eater, because he deserves only the best and KNOWS IT
Bro's complaining about a donkey to a donkey, what a guy
"You're like MY master"
"Yo, there's a well!" Wei Wuxian immediately moves out of the way, what a gentleman
HE'S JUST TALKING TO THEM, WOAHHHH
Wei Wuxian helplessly listening to them argue over his inventions is so funny to me
"IS WEI YOUR DAD?!??" "HE'S MY IDOL!!"
The way that Wei Wuxian just gives up and peaces out
Fighting with a donkey now
Take the fucking apple, you dumbass
How old is this woman? She looks about twenty five
IT'S JUST LIKE IN MINECRAFT
Push her off, it'd be so funny and no one would know
Yo, what is Yan doing?? She's busting some moves
Does he just flick any random person?
Ohhhh, I see
Got killed by the mist, that's an embarrassing way to go
Bro is dead, goddamn. Poor lass has no soul
This woman has been through so much, she doesn't deserve it
Someone's catching humans, cannibals in every universe
JIN LING!!! <3
Laughing at the richness of people
"Naur, stay up there. See you later xoxo"
How is this woman here????
LITTLE APPLE BEHAVE YOURSELF
It's fine, he's wearing a mask that covers his eyes
"It's you?" Aw shit, the guy who was a baby when you were around is onto you
Joking, he knows Mo Xuanyu
Mock him and see how it ends up
BRO JUST INSULTED HIM BECAUSE HE'S MOTHERLESS
Stop trying to get up, jesusss
Nice throw
He looks so done with people's shit
STOP FUCKING MOCKING HIM, WEI WUXIAN
Oh, hey Jiang Cheng, you're baby girling quite hard today
No need to crush it
"break his legs? No, feed him to your dog, kiddo"
His boyfriend has come to rescue him
"I'm so unlucky today", on the contrary, I think you're very lucky, these characters are key to the plot and you didn't even have to go looking for them!!
I like the music that plays when the Lan Clan is around
Lan Jingyi stepping up for his father- teacher
Lan Sizhui, how do you know so much
HE CAST THE SILENCE SPELL, I LOVE HIM
He says it like a slur hahahaha
Lan Wangji is too busy mewing, don't break his streak!!
"If you don't get that spirit, don't come back to me!!" Jin Ling was never seen again 😔
He's like a grumpy toddler, I love him so
"Don't worry, we'll pay for the nets we broke!" "Nuh uh!!" Lan Sizhui, you're an angel, don't listen to him
HIS MEWING STREAK NOOOOO
Nice voice though
"I thought I saw my boyfriend 😔"
There are spirits in the lake, I wouldn't suggest drinking from it
Jiang Yanli 😭😭😭
Stop smiling, you're hallucinating
Slander my boy and sees what happens
Slap yourself, go on, like the books
Don't put the blame all on him!!!
Nice, like the books
Feel the shame
That cannot be comfortable, those are literal rocks
LITTLE APPLE!!
He's like they're little leader
That's a fast old man
Lan Jingyi's first instinct is to point a sword at an old man, lmaaoooo
"anything strange here?" "Duh"
Leaving him alone while he's trying to give important plot information, rude
Glowing grass, what the fuck
I think you should eat some
He just wants to clean, leave him alone
WEN QING!!!!!!
Flashbacks lmao
Where'd the old man go
Dirty
No way is that naturally formed
Lan Jingyi, you're surprisingly knowledgeable..I didn't know you could read
Jin Ling and his group of people
AAAAAHH WHAT THE FUCK
"what's up baby girls"
Ugh, it's been moving for a while now
Maybe you should, I don't know, LISTEN TO THE GUY WHO KNOWS WHAT HE'S DOING??
Also, y'all ditched him, minus points
"We're out" "fuck, y'all are gonna soooo be punished"
The look he gave, as if this isn't like, a sixteen seventeen year old. No, wait, he's probably eighteen...how old was he before Wei Wuxian's death? ANYWAY
Criticising the Lan education system while you're at it
"wait, you can't be crazy, because that makes sense!!" Lan Jingyi my beloved
Shit, my cover as a crazy person has been blown
Are they having a mewing contest or what?
Well done, Lan Jingyi
WHERE'S MY NEPHEW
I swear it wasn't that big before
Y'all are doing a shit job at running from something this slow
Nice attack, it's still stone though
Dude, listen to Lan Sizhui
"Hey, my sword 🥺😔"
Considering this flute playing is supposed to be shit, it's not too bad
"ugh, you're playing the flute this bad? You must be crazy" Lan Jingyi, make up your mind
STOOOOOP JIN LING
Nice kick, it's still stone though
WEN NING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HE'S HERE TO KICK SOME ASS FOR YOU!!!!
They both look mildly terrified
Dude killed it so easy, well done. Naur, it's just an illusion.
"y'all, no need to be scared, the Yiling Patriarch ain't here" he's standing over there, wearing a mask
I THOUGHT THE LANS WERE BETTER THAN THIS
Luring him over with shitty flute playing
LET GO OF THE COMEDIC RELIEF
His robes are even blowing, just for you
Me leading my next snack away from the bag
Walk faster, goddamn
"hey bbg, it's been a while"
Listen guys, I know you're in love but there's a corpse there
He flew away, like Jesus
So...how is everyone surprised when they do turn out to be gay???
DON'T PIN THE BLAME ON HIM. MY MAN'S IS GUILTY BUT PRETTY
Uhh uh oh. Mom and dad are fighting again
Lan Wangji already looks so bored
The fucking GLARE I CAN'T
"Take off the mask!!!" "Nuh uh, I'm too handsome"
Lan Jingyi needs to stop being smart, it's scaring me
Stoooop, he didn't kill his brother
Okay, so he did, but he didn't want to!!!
He passed out, okay man
Answer the stupid call
FAMILY!!!!!!!
They're so happy 😔
Give him what he wants, it's SYMBOLISM
Lecturing him better than Lan Qiren
You lost him already, not very good at this, ey?
Alcoholic
Of course he will, it's Wei Wuxian
They're so happy :(
#four being a dumbass#Four's live review#mo dao zu shi#cql#the untamed#the untamed spoilers#wei wuxian#lan jingyi#lan sizhui#lan wangji#jin ling#jiang cheng#jiang yanli#little apple#wen qing mentioned!!
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After coming across SVSSS-related stuff on the blogs I follow/stalk, I finally gave in to my curiosity and checked the donghua.
I tried reading the novel a while back, but it didn't entice me that much so I didn't finish it. I think seeing the donghua helped spark my interest again.
Then I held back from watching Ep 10 for the past week and started reading the novel. I'm almost finished with it.
It's so different from MDZS. I find myself laughing most of the time. Luo Binghe and Shen Qingqiu (Shen Yuan edition) are such disasters. I'm sure the more senior fans have already written eloquent posts about how codependent they are, Shen Jiu and Yue Qingyuan's relationship, why Cucumber Bro and Airplane Bro transmigrated to the novel they read/wrote, why the System exists in the first place, writing what you're passionate about vs writing what'll bring in money, and who is Jiang Cheng's counterpart in SVSSS, among other things. I think I read a post suggesting it's Liu Qingge? Or is it Shen Jiu?
Anyway, back to the donghua. I hope I'm not alone in saying I like the character design. At first it was a little jarring---maybe because I'm not used to watching CGI---and the donghua isn't actually 100% polished a la FFVII remake (on a side note, someone joked that Yue Qingyuan seems to be from the PS2 era). Regardless, I appreciate the design since it gave me an idea how the characters look like.
Which is why I'm a bit surprised when I started trawling the SVSSS tags here at Tumblr and saw art depicting Luo Binghe as a curly-haired, big-muscled mountain of a man. Perhaps this is influenced by Western taste? I'm not an expert in Chinese literature or culture, but in some pics I've seen from Cdramas those of demon blood who play major roles don't have the physique of someone who can crack walnuts with their biceps. Think Wang Yue (Wang Zhuocheng) from Legend of Chongzi and that actor from Love Between Fairy and Devil. Furthermore, Luo Binghe is described as a pretty boy in the novel so at this point, I'm of the humble opinion that the donghua got his body type right. And I subscribe to the standards of beauty from the source culture.
Okay, going back to the donghua Ep 10. As we say here in my country, papunta na tayo sa exciting part---I'm going to see Luo Binghe get pushed down the Endless Abyss by his beloved Shizun. Oh, the angst, the drama.
Nope. Nothing of the sort happened.
Oh, so they saved it for Season 2 [Tries to find Season 2]
[Season 2 not yet released] 😨
What. The. Hell.
I held off finishing Season 1 because I thought Season 2's already available. The site where I watched the donghua said Season 2's release is 2022.
Dude, we're two months' shy of closing 2023. 😱
Season 2, where art thou? 😭
#SVSSS#Scum Villain's Self Saving System#southernwolf16 rambles#southernwolf16 explores#please donghua gods#give us Season 2#the S1 cliffhanger should be considered illegal
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it. it gets worse. it gets so much worse. thered be too many screenshots if i posted those but. here's the SECRET imperial decree 😭😭😭 read aloud by a guard who probably does not get paid enough for this bs.
Little Kwai, damn you. Where the hell have you gone to? I really miss you, you heartless rascal. You have forgotten about me! (Wai Siu-po interjecting) No, I have not! You… rascal. You defied my order. You wouldn't kill your shifu. You have abducted Princess Kin-ning. Damn. Now you have made me your brother-in-law? But you have done a lot for me. And you are loyal to me. Whatever you have done, I forgive you. Let me tell you, you had better surrender, and come back to Beijing immediately. I have built you a Duke of Deer Mount residence. But let me say it beforehand, if you disobey me again, I will chop your head off. You have to exterminate Heaven and Earth Society. You will have promotions and a bright future. Little Yuen is your friend and your shifu. What is said cannot be unsaid. You come back now.
I. IM. "SIU KWAI-JI, WHERE ARE YOU, SIU YUEN-JI MISSES YOU"???? HELLO????????? IM GOING TO COMBUST HE USED HIS PERSONAL NAME??? IN FACT THE VERY SPECIFIC DIMINUTIVE NICKNAME ONLY WAI SIU-PO USED FOR HIM????? LEVELING THE PLAYING FIELD BC HE MISSES HIM THAT MUCH IM GOING TO [foams at the mouth while ripping apart pillows]
#some of these things are very clear references to their shared history/inside jokes btw but. oh my god#can u imagine hearing THIS as an imperial decree?????????#this is your best friend who is kinda petty but who clearly cares about you begging for you to come back#he uses an imperial decree to get wsp to listen but throughout it all hes being SO informal#and very deliberately uses his personal name instead of his imperial name and his station#he doesnt use the royal we once btw and it's esp striking bc he ALWAYS pays attention to what is proper etiquette#but for his bosom friend who has betrayed him he still reaches out an olive branch... this literally kills me#the threats are also like.. jkfghjkfdg idk how to say this but while he very clearly COULD have wsp killed he couldve done it many times ov#it's like jiang cheng telling jin ling he'll break his legs like 😭😭😭#god. God. everyone pls watch the duke of mount deer and we can talk about historical fiction and whether it counts as rpf and also#about what in the goddamned hell is wrong with these two that despite everything they still want to be together in some form. like. god.
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hiii apple 🩵 how do you think married or established relationship zhuiling handles mornings? I think Sizhui is fine with them because he grew up with the Lan sleep schedule but sect leader Jin is probably impossible 🤣
What a perfect time to answer this as I’m laying in bed dreading waking up and wanting to go back to sleep lmaooo
Oh, Jin Ling is absolutely impossible which makes it a good thing that it’s Lan Sizhui waking him up because he’s the only one who can (aside of Jiang Cheng who would probably just barge into his room and push him off the bed, lbr 😭)
LSZ is gentle and patient with him, though. The Lan schedule doesn’t apply to Jin Ling but it’s also not good for him to sleep in so much that it makes him groggy and tired the rest of the day, so LSZ tries his best.
But JL is in full mistress mode when he’s tired. If Lan Jingyi thinks it’s bad in public, he’s never had to live with him. He likes to make waking up a monumental task for LSZ because he’s used to getting his way and LSZ wouldn’t possibly deny him, right?
After enough pestering from LSZ, he raises his hands like a zombie so LSZ can pull him up, then crashes against him, snakes his arms around his waist and drags him back onto the bed with him.
Literally impossible.
So LSZ works around it by carrying Jin Ling around who’s clinging to him like a koala, still trying to sleep, while he makes them tea, sets out their clothes, brushes Jin Ling’s hair, etc (Lan arm strength and Wen multitasking, you know how it is).
It makes him laugh because it reminds him of how senior Wei acts with Hanguang-Jun but he keeps that to himself since Jin Ling would probably go feral after getting compared to Wei Wuxian. 💀
#and that’s my established zhuiling morning headcanon thanks for coming ✨#zhuiling#mdzs#mdzs headcanons#zhuiling headcanons#zhuiling musings#answered asks#koiblossoms#and as always this took me ages to answer lmaooo sORRY#i swear I’m gonna get to the rest of my asks soon life’s just been super hectic#Jin Ling definitely drools too#LSZ never gets dressed before JL wakes up bc he knows he’s gonna get drooled on at some point lmFAO#Fairy doesn’t help either because she also wants to sleep in#she takes JLs side every time 💀#older zhuiling#married zhuiling
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I absolutely love his inner pettiness like he's not even gonna turn and LOOK at them (wangxian) and then he smirks and spins around zidian that dances around while holding an oil paper umbrella. like Jiang Cheng is so fucking competitive and bitter and petty. normal characters would have it in themselves to feel the, "oh, he cared about me," when learning of a grave sacrifice made for them but he questions wei wuxian with "what gave you the right to try make me FEEL bad?" LIKE THAT'S PATHETIC DONE RIGHT. that's a great fleshed out character. i equally love and HATE his quips throughout the novel, like no wonder if it's wei wuxian or lan wangji or jin guangyao, bro hates everyone 😭😭😭. character consistency.
and god i love zidian. angry ring that sparkles and cracks and whips and is purple on the hands of a relentlessly destructive character, who also holds an oil umbrella and would rather die than be number two and is forced to live with the fact that he could never have reached the top anyways on his own potential.
perfection.
trans by @boat-full-of-lotus-pods !!
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I saw such a bad take on Jiang Cheng's character and I can't stop thinking about how terrible it is. "Jiang Cheng did nothing wrong....couldn't have handled things better because of his situation..."...something something. Why is it so hard for people to accept what's written in canon. MXTX wanted JC to be seen as an antagonist, she wanted him to be a terrible person it's so obvious from all the parallels between him and WWX's characters... A huge excuse when they try to paint him as a "sad, misunderstood uwu boy" is that he went through a lot and thought it was all wwx's fault. But so did Jiang Yanli, and she didn't have any of the reactions that Jiang Cheng did. SHE was the one who lost her husband, SHE also lost her parents the same way he did? I also reread some scenes recently...and his homophobia is so apparent especially in the scene where lwj and wwx visit his parents' shrine. ALSO, his excuse for thinking their dating is that he saw them hug under that tree??? AND HE FOLLOWED THEM TO SEE WHAT THEY'D DO AFTERWARDS😭😭😭
I'm just confused about what excuse they have that makes it so easy to overlook all the shitty things about him💀 (oh, they also seem to hate...wangxian? Like actively believe those two are annoying and that they're bad people. Which is kind of sad, since they're the main pairing of a...ROMANCE NOVEL. So I feel pretty bad for them for having to read a whole book about two characters they don't like) Just wanted to know your thoughts. JC is irredeemable in my eyes. He's not a bad guy but he is a very bad person. But maybe other people see something I don't😂
Somehow I missed this ask, but I found it right on time (after seeing some stan bullshit 🙄) . My thoughts on Jiang Cheng is that the book is very clear that he is a terrible leader, a terrible uncle, and a terrible brother (both martial and bio) who chose the path of his toxic, violent mother to pursue over his kind father. Anyone saying otherwise is not worth engaging.
People don’t see something you don’t about his character, anon; people are choosing to unsee the things in canon because they’ve imprinted on a character that only exists in fan art, fanfic, and “incorrect quotes” memes. The disconnect isn’t a misunderstanding of the story but people uninvested in the original story wanting to impose their own uninspired fandom tropes onto an already cohesive story, and I simply do not have the energy to deal with that level of denial anymore with this fandom.
#mdzs asks#anon#yeah sorry about the late response#i legit was not seeing this ask#but also on jc being redeemable:#he’s irredeemable *to me*#but I don’t think he’s necessarily made so in the text#if by ‘redeemble’ you mean he cane change at least some of his ways#like i believe he can probably canonically be better to jin ling#but he will never be a person who doesn’t believe in murdering and torturing people weaker than him to vent his anger#as long as he can get away with it#he and wwx will never be on good terms again#he will continue to have no other amicable relationships in his life outside of his nephew
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oh I have some! do you have all the titles planned out and are they really all named after poems? was it a total of 24 or 36 chapters? what povs can we expect? and sorry you're not feeling well :(
1. yes!!! and no hehe. all the titles are planned out, and they're from a combination of poetry and prose!!! if anyone wants to see some of my faves and where they're from i'd be glad to show you :)
2. so far its a total of 36 chapters... but we shall see. i'm thinking later on i might be able to consolidate some chapters together but currently its 36!
3. povs to expect... well of course wei wuxian the love of my life ... we also see jiang yanli (🤩), jiang cheng, and wen qing! in the future... we will get a lan wangji pov! that's going to be it though, for fear it gets a little too crowded!
and thank you... my period is taking me out rn rip 😭
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Episode 38
Oh shit... Yurong's going to suggest killing Wanning as an excuse to attack, isn't he? Kill her in a way that blames the emperor...
That would solve all his problems. It would secure him a firm place in the new emperor's government, as the man who helped the coup to happen, and would rid him of Wanning's attachment to him.
Fuck me, I hate being right sometimes.
Mmmm why do I think that any poison Yurong gives Wanning would not be fake? But would he genuinely be going against Lord Cheng's wishes if he did that, or is this whole conversation a way (understood by both of them) of Lord Cheng tacitly agreeing to her death whilst absolving himself of responsibility for having actually agreed to it?
What the fuck is it that he requested in return? It'd better not be Xue Li!!
Ahhh so Lord Cheng and Wanning are both children of a concubine, they are full blood siblings. The emperor is presumably the child of a wife, making him a more legitimate child and probably why he was made crown prince in favour of the older Lord Cheng.
Love the contrasting scenes of both sides making their plans for the upcoming battle for the city.
Ooof Yurong straight up addressing Lord Cheng as Your Majesty.
"You've never believed in the heavens. You only believe in yourself."
*ith her hand over his heart. "No. I also believe in you."
I am LIVING. This is peak fucking romance people holy shit!! 😭
"Also, I will never abandon you. No matter what."!"
Ayyyy granny Jiang be like, holy shit, my son finally grew a pair. 😂
I love granny Jiang. She'd better survive this.
Shitty uncle on the other hand can fuck right off.
At least consort Ji has some actual guts and it does seem like she actually does love the emperor.
Holy SHIT when this flashback again I thought oh shiiit did she poison her father? But no. Not even. She fucking straight up smothered him!!! 😮😮
Oooft Xiao Heng has nerves of steel to not react to Lord Cheng's taunting about his father's death. Plus that nice little veiled warning about not making the same mistake as his father and retreating while there's still chance. Honestly, fuck this dude.
The rising tension in this episode, with the rebellion looming ever closer, is really getting to me.
What the fuccckkk is shitty uncle up to? Is he planning to save his own neck by handing Xue Li over to the rebels?
You FUCKING BASTARD!!!
A letter asking you out of the blue to go urgently to the duke's residence when he told you specifically to stay home?
WTF? Did they somehow replace Zhao Ke with an imposter? How would that even be possible? And how would the imposter know that the whistle is used to summon him?
What were we supposed to notice about his fingers? Was the skin colour uneven where they tried to make this imposter look like Zhao Ke? I couldn't tell but am pretty sure Xue Li noticed.
Ohhh my girl is smart.
Oh shitttttt. Is she in Wanning's private prison?
That's be a yes. Shit.
Fuuuuck there's still 2 whole episodes to go. Where is this gonna go?
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HC's about teen drunk Wei Wuxian and teen drunk Jiang Cheng.
Wei Wuxian - obviously he can drink a hell of a lot, but he's definitely an emotional and dramatic drunk when he gets there.
Wei Wuxian crying into his cups at the Cloud Recesses: Where's Jiang Cheng, where's my Shidi? 😭
Nie Huaisang: He's not here Wei Wuxian-
Wei Wuxian crying harder: Jiang Cheng used to call me Wei Wuxian too sometimes. 😭
Nie Huaisang: Because it's your name...
Wei Wuxian curling up into the blankets on Jiang Cheng's bed: I can still smell him. Oh Jiang Cheng! Why did you leave your Shixiong behind?
Jiang Cheng: Wei Wuxian-
Wei Wuxian: I can still hear his voice calling my name! 😭😭
Jiang Cheng: What the actual fuck-
Wei Wuxian: Jiang Cheng used to say what the actual fuck to me all the time...
Nie Huaisang: He was only gone a little while to get more snacks...
Jiang Cheng - alternatively Jiang Cheng as an honest, affectionate drunk. Which has it's own problems as people often try to get him drunk just to take advantage of his softer side...(looking at you, Wei Wuxian).
Jiang Cheng: Wei Wuxian come and sit by meeeee....
Wei Wuxian: Jiang Cheng, this morning you said if I came within arms-reach of you you'd break my legs, because I was so annoying.
Jiang Cheng *patting the seat next to him*: Wei Wuxiannnnnn, Xianxian, Xian-gege don't be like that.
*Wei Wuxian sitting down*: This feels weird. Like a trap. 🧐
*Jiang Cheng draping himself over Wei Wuxian*: Huaisang-xiong, did you see the arrows my Shixiong shot today?
Nie Huaisang: Not another annoying drunk 😒
Jiang Cheng: Everyone admires my Shixiong! He's the strongest. And so very handsome. Fourth best cultivator of our generation! 🤩
Nie Huaisang: This is kind making me feel uncomfortable.
Wei Wuxian: Me too, but an in my pants kinda uncomfortable...
Jiang Cheng: You're adorable.
In which the beleaguered Wei Wuxian discovers he has the worst kind of kink; a praise-from-Shidi-kink, one that is unlikely to be fed very often at all.
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