#jason: batman is like a father to me
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I'm a few pages in and this is the best storyline literally ever why have I not seen any mention of this.
#jason todd is 12 years old. his parents died like a month ago (eaten by crocodiles) he got adopted by batman and NOW#the manbat is trying to forcibly adopt him. what a life he lives. hes not even robin yet#jason: batman is like a father to me#manbat: FUCK batman and becasue you said that im your dad now. time ti take you to my clocktower and sleep while holdijg you upside down#at least hes seems like hes been a pretty good dad. minus kidnapping thing#were-bat jason au when?!#its up to me to make the content i wish to see in the world...#sadly i will go a more werewolf route than how actual manbat <-doesnt know all that much about how manbat works <-werewolf enjoyer#dc#dc liveblog#<-ive gotta start getting more on top of these tags...#what is manbat up to these days. i feel like i haven't seen any modern apperances of him in forever#i read through the whole comic while making this post btw. the tags are my liveblog#manbat was literally gonna give jason the same syrum. hello. hello. please. werebat jason please#no clue why he thought his actual child was dead though? tad confused by that. mayhaps something happened before i tuned into the comic#this is so many of my favorite tropes/story things. aughauaaughhhh. it reminds me of that carnage ep from that spiderman series.#and let me tell you i was a big fan of that story too
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this idea wont leave my brain please help me !! YIPPEE HADES BATKIDS !!!
without the bg and text under the cut :))
asdhj probably gonna post like,, two at a time because thats ,, a lot,,,, of drawing ,,,,,,, so heres tim and jason! i think i got the hang of it more with jason lol
ALSO ALSO!!!
thank you to those who helped me with the titles for the batkids!! they were all really good :D (all on insta lol)
timothy: the tenured - thomson_at
#yeah jasons hair gave me ... a lot of trouble until i landed on this#i was debating doign a long hairstyle but i dont think it looked too good with the wreath lol#tims clothing actually gave me sooo much trouble#i really wanted to incorperate more of his red robin elements in it and so i really wanted to do the yellow bandoliers#but thats why he has the upper arm wraps#maybe ill redo him later#once i get the hang of jen zee's style more lolol#jason was fun though#askj commentary over#jason todd#red hood#robin#tim drake#dc fanart#dc comics#batfam#batman#ash's doodlings#hades game#hades supergiant#wait more commentary#i used apollo artemis and hermes for tim because i wanted more of that slimmer vibe#and zag i mostly used for jason#yeah im not super happy with tim but for like.. a second attempt im fine with it#btw if this were an actual game#id like to think that the protagonist would be damian#trying to find his father (bruce) and coming across all of his fathers kids and pseudo kids lol
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things in DC canon i’ll literally never get over
1. dick finds out batman replaced him as robin (without asking him) from the NEWSPAPER and simultaneously finds out bruce adopted a new kid without telling him (to make things worse: bruce didn’t even adopt dick)
2. dick finds out jason died from the newspaper (AGAIN? REALLY BRUCE?) and bruce had the fucking funeral WITHOUT HIM while he was still in space
#i’m only like 80% sure these are fully canon btw#correct me if i'm wrong#dc comics#bruce wayne#dick grayson#jason todd#robin!jason#batman#batman comics#nightwing#batman and robin#ok yes ik there’s a reason bruce didn’t adopt dick#aka he didn’t want to replace dick’s father#but imagine being a teenager and your foster dad adopts a kid without even telling you#and then giving him YOUR name without asking#like no one would feel great about that#i will never forgive bruce for not telling dick jason died / having the funeral without him#though i do love some yummy angst#where hood!jason yells at dick for not even being at the funeral#and dicks like ‘i was still in fucking space!’#like yes bruce was grieving but BRO thats ur other son come on
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"Jason even if he didn't get adopted by Bruce, wouldn't have had a normal life"
"Jason was trying to steal the batmobile's tires, batman knew if he didn't adopt jason he would've had a worse life"
Like flashpoint/father todd isn't literally right there💀
(For context:father todd was basically an au ver of jason todd introduced in a flashpoint comic where he wasn't found by batman thus continuing to live in crime alley and didn't become robin and eventually became a gang member but then left that life behind to become a priest)
#like read the comics💀#batfam#batfamily#jason todd#batman#batman comics#detective comics#batman and robin#dc red hood#the red hood#redhood#red hood#father todd#priest jason todd#flashpoint#if i was wrong pls correct me
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I deadass did not open tumblr dot com since i posted that last thing gang my bad 🙏🙏 forgive 🤞
This one goes out to my 11 followers. Thank you. I WILL treat you well from now on. TRUST ME . TRUST ME RIGHT NOW . PRAY HANDS .
HAVE BATMAN. I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE POSTED THIS LAST MONTH TOO SO I COULD CAPITALISE THE NEW SHOW HOWEVER I MAY NOT BE SMART!!
#Batman#sorryforghostinggang#forgive me father for i have sinned#for real#erm#batfam#dick grayson#jason todd#tim drake#damian wayne#cassandra cain#bruce wayne#art#digital art#someone find me and give me dopamine in the form of likes#pray hands#Superman#right he’s in here too#artists on tumblr#procreate#artwork#drawing#sketches
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and what happens when willis todd finds out his little boy died. he knows billionaire bruce wayne adopted jay-- the whole damn country knew.
so why. why did his baby boy get a better chance at life than willis could provide, just for him to still die before him, before he became an adult?
how could willis give up his parental rights to bruce wayne, the most privileged man on earth, expecting this man to keep his baby safe and happy and healthy-- when his little jay still died alone and scared.
bruce wayne had everything he could ever ask for. he had all the means to keep his son safe from any harm. and yet jason still died before he even reached his sweet sixteen.
willis thinks that maybe it's a family curse-- a curse he has to live with, knowing that he's failed everyone he's ever loved.
#RAHHHHH#willis todd thoughts....#i know that man loved jason with his entire heart#the agony of their relationship!!!#like realistically if i -as a person who's had to fight so hard just to get money on the table for one night- found out that a billionaire#adopted my 12 year old son after i went to jail#and my child ended up dead under said billionaire's care...#not to put the blame on bruce but to put the blame on bruce actually!#me when jason and his fathers#hhajjnakdjdk!!!!#jason todd#red hood#batman#bruce wayne#willis todd#jason peter todd#dc#dc comics
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I am always thinking TimJay thoughts related to the fact that they have matching scars from getting their throats slit, and not only that, but Jason slit Tim's throat first in an attempt to threaten Bruce, where Tim was nothing more than a pawn for Jason to use to emotionally manipulate Bruce.
batman (1940) #618
And then, just a little while later when Jason is trying to confront Bruce and do his whole dramatic moment with Joker in UTRH, and Bruce slits Jason's throat to stop Jason from killing the Joker.
batman (1940) #650
It makes me so Unwell. They have literal matching scars. When do you think Jason realizes it? When do you think, while running his fingers over the scar he has to always remind himself that Bruce was willing to jeopardize Jason's own life just to save the Joker, Jason realized it was the same scar *he* gave Tim? And does it click for him too, that he and Tim are a lot alike? Being used as pawns in Bruce's game? And for the first time he maybe understands Tim Drake, just another kid trying to get Bruce's attention and approval? And Jason did to Tim exactly what Bruce did to Jason? And that's part of what spurns on Jason's obsession with Tim, trying to "save" Tim from Bruce's ideology?
When they finally get together does it make Jason even more possessive? He put that mark on Tim and now he has his own to match. It's the closest to being understood and loved he's ever felt when Tim runs his fingers over Jason's scar at the same time Jason touches Tim's. Mirrors of each other, in a fun, fucked up little way.
#jaytim#timjay#batcest#tim drake x jason todd#jason todd x tim drake#necrotic festerings#i would've included the proper panel where the batarang slits jasons throat but i've gotta be so honest with you#i can't fucking take that panel seriously. the art is *so* bad. why does jason's face look like that.#it ruins what should be one of the most important moments in jason and bruce's history. everytime i look at it i either laugh or cry#anyway it makes me unwell that jason scars tim first bc i usually see ppl mix this moment up with the titans tower moment#which would make it post-utrh#but no it's from batman: hush which comes first which is so much more fun for me when it comes to jason coping#like first you have to handle knowing the man you saw as a father bataranged your throat to save the guy who killed you#and then you realized he incidently gave you a scar that now matches the scar you gave the replacement you fucking hate?#i'd also be so unwell about it i'd go beat tim's ass at titans tower.#in my timjay little mind this is the true state of jason's complicated weird feelings about tim#the realization they have the same scar forces him to reevaluate his gut reaction to tim's existence#and thus his spiral into obsession and testing tim then trying to recruit tim begins.#i did in fact post this instead of writing fanfic don't mind it. i'm having a time. i'm also avoiding doing dishes.#i like ships besides timjay i SWEAR they're just on the mind as of recent
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Does anyone have ever written a fic about Jason realizing that Bruce made the Red Robin's suit for him??? The fact that Jason canonically knows that, but it's making me crazy how it's never addressed.
For the people who don't know, in Countdown to Final Crisis (2007), Jason goes to an alternative Earth where Bruce killed the Joker after Jason died. Once he believes Jason to really be Jason, he presents to him the Red Robin's suit, explaining it's a suit he made for when Jason would be older and have grown out of Robin. And they go fight crime together, as Batman and Red Robin, father and son, until Bruce is killed in front of Jason. There's more to it (Bruce has given up on his morals, but also the whole batfam and JL has given up on him), however none of this is ever used again (a shame, really).
It's not explicitly told if Tim first Red Robin's suit was also made by Bruce for Jason, and the third Robin found it. And there are no other explanation given.
So, is there any fic out there about this??? Either Jason who did go to the alternative universe and thought "it was another Bruce, mine didn't do it" until he saw Tim as Red Robin ("time to beat my lil brother for stealing my shit" the second act), either Jason who never went to this alternative universe but learns that the suit was originally for him?
Because, Jason's whole thing is that he wants signs that Bruce cared about him, and a suit, for his son when he gets older? The man spent his free time making a suit for his 15 years old son for when he would fight crime in college! It was so early for him to already be working on that, it shows the love Bruce had for his boy.
#jason todd#red hood#batman#red robin#bruce wayne#tim drake#dc comics#my ramblings#me: I want the batfam to acknowledge Tim stole Bruce's gift to Jason behind everyone's back#Bruce probably worked on the suit because he didn’t want things to go like it did with Dick#one of Bruce’s love language is making a suit for you#It's a crime how dc never uses that time Jason went to a world his father killed for him#it was not a happy world Bruce was not a great guy and he was so alone#but Jason ignored that because his father cares! right?#but like is it really the same man than the father you love Jason? is it?#or is it just a monster wearing your dad's skin?
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So do you guys actually think that Jason's entire story, relationship to the others, and philosophy amounts to him being a rebellious teen who wants his dad's attention? Like are you 100% serious? I thought you were joking about that but too many of you are saying it with your whole chest.
And what the fuck is this "Bruce antagonizing Jason is fanon!" Shit I've been seeing? You guys are aware that a parent can love their kid and still be a shit parent right? I know you guys don't want to fathom the thought that maybe your blorbo might also occasionally have to face responsibility for consistently endangering children but let's not start being delusional now.
Bruce does love his kids, that doesn't mean that he hasn't hurt them. And I'd also argue that for the most part he feels in the right for it, and he's said multiple times that he believes it's for their own good, so you can't even argue that he's sorry about it. It's okay for you guys to admit that your PERSONAL INTERPRETATION of the character wouldn't do that but don't sit here and pretend that it's not a facet of the source.
#you can argue meta until you're blue in the face#but I can't ignore the ingerent abuse of Batman and Robin because DC is always drawing attention to it#Stephanie and Jason directly died because of Robin#Stephanie wanted to impress Bruce to live up to his idea of a sidekick and prove her worth#Sheila only sold Jason out when she found out he was Robin#Damians life certainly got worse when he became Robin/moved with Bruce#if you bring up racist retcons I'll kill you btw#how are we supposed to read children dying and being tortured and traumatized constantly#and just ignore that these are children#I can ignore the reality of child sidekicks in campy light hearted early comics#but if DC wants to deal with serious topic they're going to have to deal with some serious implications too#Also that post that's going around about “Bruce loves Jason and it's Jason who's causing all the animosity” is such bullshit#what the fuck are you even talking about#and let's not act like Jason is the ONLY one at fault and Bruce is just a poor loving father#is Bruce spreading that utter bullshit about Jason's death and who he was not an act of violence?#was he not the one to cast the first stone by disgracing Jason's legacy and using a version of him that never existed as a cautionary tale#and I know some of you are going to argue that with most of the kids there's nothing Bruce could have done to stop them#and this is the one time in which I will ignore all the very real ways that he could have#but I still think that in universe the characters have a right to be angry about it#Jason always since his debut as red hood been a vehicle for calling out Bruce#he's so heavily steeped in meta narrative because his run is when they started dealing with the real BAD cases#The Cult Garzonas onscreen murders were getting more common#AND NO ONE CAN CONVINCE ME THAT BEING ROBIN DIDN'T MAKE JASON'S LIFE WORSE#THERE WAS NO REASON TO MAKE HIM ROBIN HE COULD HAVE BEEN VERY HAPPY AS JUST A NORMAL KID#But Bruce made having a place in his home synonymous with being Robin because the narrative dictated it had to be#what was homeless orphan Jason going to do? say no?#it was basically coercion and it doomed him and he has every right to blame the adult that put him in that position#dc#bruce wayne critical#bat family
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Do I find Damian incredible annoying? Yes Will I fight every single motherfucker who resumes his entire character to violent and 'bad'? Also Yes.
#I don't know how many times I'm going to repeat myself but this is a goddamn child soldier getting repeatedly traumatize#in a family that has so many chaos that he always feels the need to prove himself in the terms he was taught#i didn't give a fuck what Damian does thats the responsibility of his father until he actually becomes responsible to his actions#and dc comics literally bought him out of nowhere just to shit on him and then repeatedly try to get rid of him for no fucking reason#Damian goin off as a way of getting Batman emotional damage it's actually very stupid dc you tried the same shit with jason in this last#ten years and not even then anybody liked#few things makes me more unreasonable piss off than batman letting his kids get away from him and then act like they don't need him#he did te same shit with dick but at least dick had the titans#this whole shit with Damian is making me read with my eyes while my hands are dialing the cps#Batman come get your fucking children your useless middle age man#bruce hate hours#damian wayne#damian al ghul#damian al ghul wayne
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i genuinely love writing for damian he is such a piece of shit <3 <3
#sophie speaks#like the guys are all possessive but dames is#hes on a whole nother fucking level man#0 to a 100 immediately he does not know what a middle ground is#which is why hes most like tim to me because jason and dick fall in love slowly#tim and damian. do not do that lmfao#the batman no kill rule quivers in the face of damians possessiveness ngl#hes very loyal to his father now but he's also. lets just say the assassin training childhood had an effect on his worth of a human life#he sees the rule as more important than the people hes not killing
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Something About Jason Todd In The Future I Guess
Jason Todd, in the eyes of the world at large, is a mildly successful author who lives on his father’s trust fund. He is in the minority of his siblings to have a college degree, and he was missing for a significant period of time, presumed dead. He is 28 years old, and he spends his nights grappling from rooftops as part of a flock of colorfully dressed birds, striking fear into their lawless, beautiful city.
He is the Red Hood. He protects the parts of the city many glance over.
He is the only bird in this flock with fresh blood on its talons.
Two of his younger siblings are birds of prey who have learned to eat nuts and seeds. He is a songbird who has learned to hunt.
He does not do so carelessly.
It has taken him the better part of a decade, but he has learned the ways he is different to his siblings. To his father.
For them, killing would be easy.
For him, it is never easy.
He feels the blood of each body on his hands. He knows the story behind each one. This does not paralyze him, as it would his older brother, or deaden him, as it would his younger brothers.
Each person he kills has a life. Each bloody body tells a story.
He was one of those stories, once, after all.
But every person he saves has a life, too. And every story has to end sometime.
The Red Hood kills. It is a tool, one of many in his arsenal. Once, it might have been his tool of choice, but he knows better, now.
This flock knows better than anyone, after all, that there are worse things than death.
#red hood#jason todd#dc#batman#batfamily#batfam#this is just kind of a personal thought thing that might be part of some kind of future AU thing I do eventually#I know we appreciate the angst and everything in this fandom but I do want to see this family all reconciled and a full team#fight me etc etc#murder is wrong. to be clear. in our real world#but our world is a different one than existed a hundred years ago#let alone the world that exists in comic books#anyway the gist of my future AU is jason becomes batman because bruce offers it#and he actively chooses to give up killing to take the mantle#because that is the choice bruce offers him and bruce trusts him to be true to it#because jason is the son most like his father. in my view.#i think him inheriting batman would be a solid way for his arc to go#jason goes onto turn the manor into basically a full foster home and shelter to bruce's delight as a grandfather of like two dozen#terry and carrie are among jason's own flock of birds
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calling bruce jason's 'father figure' should be illegal. jason is his son. he was literally even legally adopted. "father figure" my ass that's his dad ???
#my dc posting#jason todd#dc#bruce wayne#i find the redhood&batman conflict most interesting and well-done when there isnt any question abt the father/son dynamic#like 'yeah that's my dad. batman. why the fuck didnt he avenge me fuck that guy'#and 'oh my son is back from dead. he's a murderer now. what the fuck jason'#what next. calling bruce damian's 'father figure' ???#nothing wrong w father figures ofc but its just. not what's going on there imo#jason&bruce being father and son before being batman and robin is everything i love abt them#(not 'before' as in chronologically but 'before' as in in importance)#(batman didn't lose robin. bruce lost his son. yknow??)#also im having so many constant thoughts and opinions that i've resorted to scheduling posts for a later time lmao#this is more abt fanon than whatever we're considering canon in the comics rn. just as a disclaimer
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Stephanie Brown and Dick Grayson: I Am Going To Be A Good Parent To Pass On The Good Parts Of My Tumultuous Childhood/Give Someone Else What I Didn't Have Growing Up
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Damian Wayne and Cassandra Cain: You Could Not Pay Me To Be A Parent For Fear I Would Continue The Cycle Of Violence
#dc comics#stephanie brown#dick grayson#damian wayne#cassandra cain#ramblings of a lunatic#don't ask me about tim jason or duke idk what's going on there#Tim can't even make it to college unimpeded his ass is NOT entering fatherhood#you could do something really interesting with Jason as a father but it'd either have to go hard into the 'jason healing' route-#-or the complete opposite direction and go full on 'repeating the cycle of violence' fucked up#and either way it's gonna be divisive#i recently found out (bc i skipped batman and the outsiders) that duke's dad is some kind of immortal entity???? what in the fresh hell#I'm not saying it can't be cool I'm saying I'm. so goddman surprised it's never brought up by ANYONE#i know duke doesn't get his flowers in fandom but SERIOUSLY. WHAT?#ngl i can't say for sure that i don't like it bc i haven't seen the execution but. instinctually i prefer his og backstory#it just felt more grounded and linked to his setting? his whole thing is being the light and pushing batmans message further-#which is already hard for some writers to work w bc depending on interpretation that's the territory of like. 5 other guys in batfam#but duke does it in his own way with the whole working the dayshift angle. idk am i the only one hung up on the eldritch daddy thing?#bc i simply can't imagine the thought process behind that#anyway I've been thinking about the bit in robin 2021 where damian says he's never having kids. he's so real for that#he loves both his parents deeply and that series made that clear but MAN he is not passing on all this mental illness to anyone#and then i thought about how badly steph wanted to be a mom even as a teenager despite her own shitty parents#how she wanted to give someone else more than she had growing up (HOPE HAS ALWAYS BEEN A THEME FOR STEPH LISTEN TO ME)#and she ultimately gave her kid up bc she knew she couldn't give that to them at the time#oouughhhh. then i just figured that dick and cass are roughly the same in their estimation of parenthood#cass had a horrifically abusive upbringing and insanely isolated life til recent-#-all of which was due to/contributed by the parental figures in her life minus maybe barbara#i think I'd love to watch cass act as a mentor (she was a bit of a peer mentor to Steph and got along well w maps in Batgirls)#but it's hard to picture her as maternal. big sister yes. mother no.#dick is soooo dad shaped it's unreal. just as much as he is brother shaped. especially after everything with damian
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Damian: Based on what I have researched, it is clear to me that I’m the one who has upheld the ideals of Robin the best-
Jason: Bullshit you have! You threaten everyone with a sword!
Damian: Like you’re any better Todd. What with your use of guns-
Jason: Not as Robin you little shi-
Tim: As the better detective out of the both of you, I think-
Jason: Did you or did you not blow up a base full of people.
Tim: As Red Robin.
Damian: I seem to recall that there is still Robin in the name-
Steph, there to cause problems on purpose: Actually I was the best Robin-
More screaming, cat yowls and an almost shattered vase later
Bruce: This is your fault you know.
Dick “parents killed by mobster at age 9, made a costume to murder a man about it” Grayson: I have no idea what you’re talking about
#Noble roars#batman#dc#bruce wayne#dick grayson#jason todd#tim drake#damian wayne#damian al ghul#stephine brown#you ever think how all of this started is bc dick was such an angry child#like its just so funny to me how dick has this reputation as a sunshine child when in actuality he was chomping at the bit to kick someone#into the fucking sun#my man has anger issues and is one bad day away from somersaulting someones spine in half#i love him so much#babygirl regularly got into screaming matches with his father figure and stormed out of the manor weekly#anyway this just proves that damian is the true successor to robin#by being an angry child that has great potential to cause bodily harm#bruce regrets dick being batman everyday because damian imprinted and now he has to deal with this shit again#at least this one listens to him. mostly#and didn't start the whole child sidekick thing and can't cave someone's skull in with a well aimed kick#so overall a better experience
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this panel induces a rage i didn't even know was in me
#he's really saying thank you for still loving me even tho i know i'm hard to love#TO HIS DAD?#after getting beat up by said dad#bruce is really just here like yea it's so hard being your father so i'm glad you can see why i abuse you#it's for your own good#and ofc jason falls for it bc he's never had good parents who took care of him and not vise versa#like this panel just genuinely makes me sick#jason todd#red hood#batman#bruce wayne
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