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A pseudo sequel to Chloe Knows, mostly just dialogue set a couple of weeks into S5, and Chloe taking sporadic depression naps on Marinette's family lounge.
Marinette Wants to Know:
"Why are you trying.... Whatever this is Daipain-Cheng?"
"Because I want things to get better, Chloe."
"Hah... Things don't get better, they stay the same or they get worse, for both of us now."
"See this? This whole, resigned thing? That is like, the opposite of the Chloe I know."
"You made it clear you don't know me at all!"
"Then explain how someone who can apparently kick Monarch out of her head on a whim can't even bring herself to stay awake for a whole conversation."
"... You know what... Fine, maybe then you'll stop," Chloe forces herself up from the lounge she had her face buried in and lazily scanned the living room.
"My parents are still out," Marinette offered, earning a nod as Chloe tiredly dragged herself to her feet and began lethargically pacing the room.
Finally she came to a stop and looked at Marinette, a spark of something back in her eyes, if only a little as she began to speak.
"It starts as far back as you can remember. You aren't really a person yet, more a pet or a prop to be rolled out for cameras, lavished for a few minutes and then forgotten about. You're empty and the only way to get things is to scream so loudly people have no choice but to hear. But that works so you're fine, you even have a friend, just one, but he makes you feel sane, because he's got the same sort of problems, you're there for each other and things are... Good?"
"Then mommy leaves and suddenly things are worse, she was never kind before but she was a presence, a force to be beheld! Now there's only her absence and it becomes your job to fill it for daddy."
"You're maybe four or five when you realize that this must mean she left because of you, after all, daddy didn't change, he's the beloved symbol of Paris and mommy is exceptional always and forever. So when he gets you to change it must mean you're the reason she left."
"But this is fine! You can learn, you can improve, you can be exceptional too and once she sees that she'll come home. Then you won't need to be daddy's silver medal spousal substitute, and things will go from being bad to good, right?"
"But nothing you do is enough, no sport, or grade, or prize is even reflected in her eyes. No matter how you style yourself, no matter how you behave, no matter how hard you cut and contort and carve yourself into a shape that might fit her heart, it's not enough!"
There's some real fire in her words now, real fury. "She's so eager to tell you every way you fail but never once how to succeed!"
"But you keep trying, nothing is less exceptional than a quitter and you have to be exceptional, you don't have a choice, your family can't produce losers so you have to win, no matter what and people love winners right?!"
"Everyone loves your parents, so you do what they do, you do what he told you and it works! At least a little bit, you win at the very least, even if the wins don't feel like they matter, even if everyone hates you, even if half the time you only bothered so he could ride in on a white horse and make it all about him. You still 'won' and that's enough to keep your head above water."
"But you're older and still empty, and so hungry and so angry and you don't know what to do with it all, because you're starting to see now that other kids don't have to debase themselves to make their father happy. Don't have to twist themselves trying to find a way to make their mother love them. Don't need to be little monsters to be loved and you hate them for it, especially the ones who are most like you."
Marinette could tell exactly who Chloe meant and swallowed, as the girl continued loomed over her a moment before pressing on.
"So you keep fighting and fawning and forming yourself into exactly what they say they want but nothing changes, you're still empty, still starving and finally starting to wonder if maybe, just maybe the problem is you?"
"Because your parents are exceptional, beloved, brilliant, everyone adores them; but when you do what they do, everyone hates you, when you try to get them, or anyone to love you it fails, even the people closest to you are somehow too far. You can't keep that girl too close, she's not of our pedigree, you can't see your friend today, or any day, not this month, he's busy!"
"So you keep being left alone with the last person you want to be with, yourself, wondering what it is about you that is so wrong your mother left you with him. What is it that makes you so unlovable that no effort, no victory, no sacrifice is enough for even one person to stay for anything but themselves. But you can't let that thinking take hold, that's loser talk, and you can't be a loser, ever."
"Time passes, things keep getting worse, you keep getting worse, and even your friend gets worse. You try to help him, bring him somewhere new and be happy, but what do you know, the moment, the second he has other options," Chloe's hands clapped together, "He ditches you. Oh he keeps you at arms length, but that's it, that's the best you can hope for being kept on a long, distant leash. Because at least that means he still sees you from time to time."
"& you know, you can see that maybe you can start fixing this, that if you just stop fighting his new friends things will at least go back to being less bad, but you can't, you don't know how to stop, no one ever told you how to stop."
"Daddy might muzzle you when you go too far, but that's for his benefit, not yours, you still never know where the line is and stopping is losing and you aren't allowed to be a loser, even though that seems to be all you're doing. Because now you can't even hold onto fake wins, so you just end up holding nothing!"
"& people try to kill you and its just... Whatever, you aren't allowed to be upset about it, and who would care if you were anyway? The people meant to care only bother when the cameras are on and you're being a good little prop, not before or after."
"But then mommy comes back, and you have to try again and again because maybe this time it will work, maybe this time she'll stay or take you away and you can be something other than her for a change, but no! She kills you, lives out the fantasy of most of your class and ends you right then and there!"
She sucks in a breath, and a sanguine smile adorns her face, it looks like broken glass.
"But then you find it, a Miraculous, Pollen, a way to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt how exceptional you can be, or maybe even just a way to escape having to be yourself and what to do you do with it? That's right, you fail again!"
She pivots, voice growing cold, "But then Ladybug, a hero, a real and genuine hero and a girl you know has no reason to help you, who actually is loved by everyone, they come for you, they 'help' you, against all common sense and reason. They get your mother to finally look at you, to stay and for a minute you think everything might be OK for once."
"It doesn't last a week, you can't make mommy happy and not be hated by your friend, you can only think to run away away and hope your exceptional mother finds a way to fix whatever it is that's so wrong with you, far away from everything you've come to hate, far away from the human fish tank you sleep in, far away from daddy dearest, but then... Then the hero comes again, and gives you a chance, and it works, you won, you got everything and everyone even just for an afternoon, you finally felt happy!"
She's tensed, hugging herself.
"It doesn't last, you can't be a hero and a good daughter, can't be a person and his pet, can't be Chloe because there's still something wrong with her you just can't find. Why else would a hero ghost you, she came for you when she needed, despite the danger, one, twice, thrice, but otherwise, silence and you start to wonder if she's seen what it is that made mommy leave and daddy change you and everyone else leave because even when you team up with to keep your friend, it doesn't mean anything to her."
"Then your parents are taken, things are bad, its just in times like this that she comes for you, but instead you see her with the only other person who shouldn't be there, the only other one who screwed up like you di. So once again you're alone and wondering what it is about you that is so wrong that even Ladybug leaves you!"
She sags, defeated.
"So you take Hawk Moths deal, you've rejected him before, you can deal with whatever he wants later; right now the only thing you know how to do is fight and so you might as well. But you fail, like always and it's your fault you accepted the deal like always, and like always your parents didn't notice or care."
She turns back, fake smile in place, "Then, just to rub salt into the wound, just when you've started giving up and deciding to only look out for yourself. To think for even a minute that maybe everyone else just sucks and you need to start taking some ground for yourself rather than giving it, she arrives."
"Your half sister and perhaps the only person you think might be able to understand you. You show her the ropes, how you've finally managed to at least get your parents in order because if they don't care about you, even after you threw away everything for them then you might as well not care back, right? But what happens, what happens when this girl sets out to fight everyone?"
"They accept her, they welcome, forget your past and join our gang, none of it's your fault, have a movie, have friends, have a Miraculous!"
Her breathing is ragged now, the energy fading like fire into ashes.
"All of it, all on the same day your old friend finally turns on you, when his father turns on you, and with the hero right there alongside them, smiling as your last, little vestige gets ripped from your bare hands."
":"Because daddy doesn't want his used up little doll anymore, without daddy to compete with mommy doesn't care, without them no one else has any reason to listen when you're screaming and you still don't know how to turn it off. Even your last friend is drifting, has been for a long time, you can't hold onto her, can't hold onto anyone... Not with her around."
"Because there's a moment where everything makes sense again. Where if you look at it juuuust right, that beloved hero has been the architect of every misfortune, every defeat, every moment in the nightmare your life has become. It all feels like it can be traced back to her playing it to her advantage, building you up, guiding you into mothers will, setting you up for a perfect fall and oh isn't it just so brilliant, she gets to finally take every last thing you have left and still be the hero!"
"How vicious of her, how ingenious! But the funny thing is, you're fine with that, because that's how people are meant to get ahead. Because now, you finally have a foe, a villain, a person to blame and fight and defeat. Know you finally feel like you know what you're fighting with and there's hope that now, if you finally managed to win that you'll finally be something worthwhile, just maybe you'll get something back and if not?"
She shrugged helplessly.
"Well, you'll go down swinging, but at least you can make it hurt."
Chloe looked her dead in the eyes and sighed.
"Then that hero loses, she loses big and you realize she's just a girl who pushed her way into things she didn't understand and made them all worse by accident. It seems impossible, because how can one person do this much damage on accident?"
Her voice actually cracked as she asked that, as thelast scrap of fire in her voice fades to dying embers.
"It should be impossible, but it's the truth. So now you just have to sit there, empty and hurting and with nowhere and nothing you can do about it. Not even a comforting lie to tell yourself and you are just... So... tired..."
"I'm tired Marinette, that's all there is to it, so if you don't mind, I'm going back to sleep."
With that, Chloe turned and promptly fell back upon the lounge without fanfare.
"I'm sorry," Marinette muttered.
Chloe's retort was muffled, "Did we not just establish you didn't do anything and that was my problem?"
"I mean I'm sorry your parents suck, and I'm sorry you feel awful all the time and that I somehow only made things worse when trying to make them better."
Chloe's response was an inarticulate grunt.
Fingers flexing, desperate for something to d, Marinette pressed on. "I think I finally understand you better now if that helps." Silence, but Marinette persisted. "You look at every situation & see a fight, right?"
She waited, just barely for Chloe who was not facing her to nod.
"Well I see everything as a problem to be fixed. But it's become very clear there's something that either can't be fixed, or that I don't know how to fix and by trying... I only ended up hurting someone who was already hurting and who then went and hurt me and well... I'm just sorry that any of this happened, none of this ever should have been how it was for either of us."
There was silence, but finally Chloe shrugged, "It's... Whatever... I tried to fight and lost, you tried to fix and failed and now here we are... Just a couple of losers."
Marinette took that small lifelife, that small gesture and ran with it. Sliding onto the lounge next to Chloe and placing a hand on the blonde's shoulder.
It wasn't shaken off.
"Maybe we are both losers... But, we don't have to stay that way. So when, if you feel like you want things to change, if you want to try something new... Well I'll be waiting."
She didn't get an answer exactly, but she wasn't rejected either, merely a low, thoughtful hum reverberated in Chloe's throat and Marinette opted not to push the matter. Instead leaving Chloe in peace, buoyed to see that there was still fire in her old rival despite everything.
Chloe Knows:
Apparently game Chloe knows Marinette is Ladybug, so I wrote this:
Summary: Chloé Bourgeois is perhaps the last person Marinette expected to see on her roof after having lost the Miraculous to Felix.
Chloé Bourgeois is also probably the person Marinette least wants to see on her roof.
Unfortunately, or perhaps fortunately, Chloe knows more than she's ever let on and that complicates things, but it just might end up helping too.
Chloe Knows:
The last thing Marinette expected to deal with right now was Chloe hanging out on her roof, arms folded and tapping her yellow jacket impatiently.
It was also the last thing Marinette wanted to deal with, save maybe finding Hawk Moth waiting for her. & that thought just sent her gut into a tailspin, so Marinette forced open her ceiling hatch and stalked onto the roof.
Chloe zeroed in on her instantly, hissing, "You kept me waiting!"
Marinette barely resisted the urge to grab and shake the blonde, because she had only just finished re-tethering herself after the disaster of losing the Miracle Box.
Still, she had just enough restraint to only force her way into Chloe's space, grounding out, "How did you trick my parents into letting you up here, Chloe?"
The blonde blinked confusedly, "I climbed?" She motioned to a discarded pair of gloves sitting in the rooftop bin. "Why would I talk to your parents about that anyway? This is our business."
Marinette tried very hard to parse that question but she was still trying to process Chloe having scaled her walls!?
"Because they-, I-" No she as not dealing with that right now. "Chloe we don't have business!" Marinette settled on, arms flailing.
"Normally we wouldn't, you made sure of that-"
"Oh I made sure of it?"
"Yes you," Chloe huffed, somehow the one affronted, "When you got me to be terrible for my mother, then made it impossible for me to be good as Queen Bee by taking Pollen. Now you go and lose her & the others? I thought you were at least cunning to pull that scheme off Dupain-Cheng, or are you just lucky!?"
Marinette technically 'heard' what Chloe said, but she didn't have the wherewithal to react to it. Not right now as her whole world felt like it was suddenly unreal and empty and yet crushingly full all at once.
"Hah, haha, what are you t- talking about? Me, take a pollen? I don't know what that is? I don't even like wasps!"
Chloe dragged her hands down her face, screaming into her palms, "You cannot be this thick, no one can, for the- I know you're Ladybug, I've known your Ladybug for ages. Now tell me how you lost the Miraculous!"
"I could never be-"
Chloe stepped forward, counting off on her fingers.
"Rena is Alya, Nino is Carapace, Sabrina the Hound, Max is Pegasus, Kim is monkey guy and Zoe is Vespera, very petty of you, kudos really. Need I list more?"
"I"
"I've seen your Kwami, do I need to grab your damned earrings!?"
Marinette's hands flew to them, and she flung herself back, then started to giggle, maniacally.
"Hahaha, of- of course, this is a nightmare! All a nightmare! I didn't fail, Chloe doesn't know anything, I didn't get tricked by Felix and doom Paris! Hahaha- OW!"
Chloe pulled her hand back and out of pinching distance.
"You're awake Dupain-Cheng & finally answered my question to boot. Felix, ugh!! What, did he pull that stupid 'I'm Adrien' stunt and you just tripped over yourself?"
"Actually-" Tikki cut in gently, drifting out of her bag. "There was no tripping that I recall, & he'd had help this time, as Adrien wished to stay in Paris so it was more believable."
Marinette felt like her throat was closing up as she rasped, "Tikki, why!?"
The Kwami turned to her, big eyes doleful, "I am sorry Marinette, but it was obvious she knew and has evidently known for sometime. I felt you continuing to try and cover this up would only make things worse not better."
"Good thing too, I was about to tackle her and shake you out of that bag-ah!"
Marinette grabbed Chloe, spun her around and trapped her against the nearest wall. Eyes wild and frantic, the command phrase to transform dancing on her lips.
"Where's Hawk Moth? What's your game Chloe!?"
"If this was a game I'd be having fun, also," Chloe brought her hands up, and sharply but lightly 'chopped' her way out of Marinette's grip with the sudden pressure on her elbows and then shot out of grabbing range.
"Uhu, you had your chance to straddle me and passed it up."
Marinette's overtaxed brain wanted to 'scream' at that particular mental image. But Ladybug Brain was taking over and she snapped.
"How long have you known? It can't be that long or Hawk Moth would have found out already. After Penal-Team, no after-"
"Are you kidding? I've known way longer than that," Chloe boasted.
"Then why doesn't Hawk Moth know? Why didn't you just Akumatize and bring him the Miraculous!?" Marinette hissed.
"Because I don't want him to win, obviously!"
"You say you want him to win all the time!"
"I say stupid stuff when I'm angry, sue me!"
"Marinette!" Her parents called, and she could hear them racing up the ladder and nearly tripping over one another in a bid to make it to the rood.
Tikki vanished back into her purse and Marinette stood stock still frozen as her parents clambered out. Her mother hugging her close and her dad stepping between her and Chloe.
"How did you get up here?" Her father groused.
"Marinette, are you OK?" Sabine asked, fretfully.
A million and one excuses flew through Marinette's exhausted brain. Class project, Chat Noir dumped Chloe on her roof, she was Ladybug & Chloe had come to yell at her- No wait, that was the truth!
"What business is it of yours?" Chloe snapped back, evidently not intimidated by her father.
"Because this is our home, and our daughter and you are trespassing." Tom rumbled.
Chloe leaned to the side and looked at Marinette, still in her mothers arms, and then pointedly looked 'past' them.
"That doesn't answer my question, Marinette and I's business is none of yours."
Her mother frowned, "You've never had business with our daughter, just sharp words at best. You have no right to her or anything here."
"Ch- Chloe was just checking up on me, after Monarch's announcement." Marinette rambled, trying to piece the pieces together into something workable that wouldn't send Chloe into a fit.
Both her parents looked stunned and also like they wanted to ask if she was concussed.
Fortunately, Chloe managed to pick up where she'd left off.
"Exactly, we certainly aren't friends, but I felt obliged to check up on someone else I knew Ladybug wouldn't check on."
"What?" Her mothers hug tightened, and her voice actually quivered.
Her father looked between the two sides, seemingly lost for what to do with himself.
The pieces fell into place and Marinette came to the truth, in a sense.
"I was Multi-Mouse, when my science teacher god Akumatized, Ladybug needed someone who was good at multitasking."
"Marinette," Her father rushed forward and pulled her into a hug that knocked the air out of her lungs.
"I... I helped her, I did OK I think."
"You got the Miraculous back so you did your job," Chloe cut in, neither warm nor scathing.
Her mother evidently didn't agree, "It shouldn't have been her job, either of your jobs. You're children!"
"Mum, dad, it's fine, really it's fine!"
Her mother ran a hand through her hair, "I feel like there's something you aren't saying sweetheart."
She glanced at Chloe who was watching the exchange with an inscrutable expression. Some strange mix of confusion and almost starvation like hunger that was honestly painful to perceive.
Marinette licked her lips and pressed on.
"Chloe was right that Ladybug might not check up on me. At least not in a way I could see."
"She's usually such a good hero?" Her father said, sounding despondent.
"It's because I asked her too! I... When I was Multi-Mouse, I used the other Miraculous. A lot. I shouldn't have, but nothing bad happened!" she hastily added, at her parents near frantic looks of worry.
"Ladybug warned me, but I misunderstood and she said even though I was OK this time I shouldn't use magic again for a long time. I was upset, I wanted to help her, I-"
Why was she crying?
"I wanted to be a good hero, but I just screwed up and now," she was sobbing. Gods she was sobbing in her mothers arms.
"There there, my treasure, I am sure you were brilliant, let it out," her mother stroked her hair while her father hovered protectively, one large hand rubbing circles on her back.
Fortunately, Marinette had already cried her heart out once tonight and was too tired for a truly spectacular breakdown.
She managed to half slip her mothers grip, wiping at her eyes. "Thanks, both of you," she glanced at Chloe who was back to not quite staring at them. Her face was a mask of forced, haughty neutrality that looked like it was being kept in place with wires buried beneath her skin.
"Thanks for checking up on me Chloe, and for somehow not telling Hawkmoth our, my, anyone's identities when he had you Akumatized all those times." Because she still needed an answer to that, only the fact Tikki hadn't seemed panicked was keeping her grounded.
Chloe swallowed, hands clenching and unclenching before she spoke.
"Yes, well, I might not be Queen Bee or a hero anymore, but ridiculous circumstances demand ridiculous actions. So for tonight I'm a hero and it's the duty of a hero to look out for people. Even one's they hate."
OK, ow.
Chloe pressed on, "As to identities," She shrugged. "If that idiot Hawkmoth, Shadowmoth or whatever he's calling himself had that kind of control he wouldn't have to wait for people to break before getting them under his thumb. Even when I let him in the last few times, I never let him dig deep and I'd just kick him out if he tried to paw at any of my secrets."
Marinette felt like her heart was going to collapse in on itself because, "Even knowing everything you do, you just- I can't- I don't understand you at all Chloe!"
That actually seemed to draw the blonde up short, "That's a surprise, I thought you knew me better than anyone. You're certainly good at," Chloe looked at her parents ten back to Marinette, "Hitting my weak spots when we come to blows."
It felt like there was a lot to unpack there and for the first time in a long time, Marinette knew she'd actually have to spare no small amount of time and thought on Chloe's inner workings.
For now though.
"Even if you 'can' just kick him out."
"You know I can!" Chloe stomped her foot. "You saw me do it when I was Penal-Team!"
"That's my point! Isn't that like willingly helping him!? Other people have to be tricked!"
Chloe scoffed, "Tricked she says, don't over-sell it, it's being angry or sad, or whatever and taking a deal. Besides, does it look like I'm helping? I played soccer for an hour then quit."
"You had a bunch of people trapped in deadly orbs Chloe!"
"So what!? People try to kill me all the time! Ivan tried to smear me on the pavement! Nathanial tried to chop my legs off! Mommy murdered me and no one cared! No one!"
There was a choked edge in that but Chloe pressed on. "Because it's not a big deal, and anyone trying to make it a big deal is just looking for sympathy points, so there."
She huffed and unfolded her arms, "Anyway you've clearly got people to tend to and I got what I came for. See you at school, Multi-Mouse."
With that she marched across the rooftop to her sky-box. "I'm not climbing the walls again if I don't have to so I'll just leave out the front and avoid the stray dog."
Before she reached the door, Marinette was surprised to see her mother reach out and gently grasp Chloe's shoulder.
"Chloe," She said firmly, as the blonde practically froze up, looking half ready to bolt, or shout. "Thank you for checking up on our daughter, that was a good thing and for whatever it's worth. People should have cared, I'm sorry those who should don't."
There was a moment where Marinette honestly expected Chloe to start crying, to fling herself at her mother and howl and sob. She was sure she saw something glisten in her eyes before Chloe wiped it away, and swallowed.
Her voice was rough as she said, "It's... Thanks, or whatever, doesn't matter. I don't need anyone's help."
"Everyone needs someone, so if your feelings change, don't be afraid to ask, people can surprise you. Especially if you don't break into their house." Her mother said the last part with a sort of forced, hopeful smile.
Chloe nodded, like taking an instruction, a rasped something escaping her lips before she achingly pulled away and climbed down the ladder.
A million and one feelings, questions and terrors still swirled in Marinette's mind but as her father and mother gently guided her down the ladder, intent on hot coco and comfort talk. She knew they'd have to wait. Could wait, until she was rested and ready.
Even still, a part of her would linger on the question of Chloe. What to think, to feel, to do, certainly. But also on the quieter, more uncomfortable thoughts.
Like who someone who felt they had no one would turn to if they were desperate and at the end of their rope.
'& it's not just Chloe either, who does Chat Noir have besides me?'
It was an uncomfortable thought, but one buoyed by a new revelation. No matter how omnipotent Hawk Moth seemed, no matter how all knowing he claimed to be; he was clearly far less than that.
It wasn't much to build on, but it was something, a foot hold from which she could dig in her heels and drag him down from his perch.
Golden hair flashed in her mind again and another thought echoed in her head.
'One good foot hold may be enough to bring down Hawkmoth. So what could it do for someone else?'
Because no matter what she said or had done, Chloe made a choice tonight, and had been making choices for longer than Marinette realized. Not having fallen down the slope but merely standing on the brink.
'But she took a step back tonight, to somewhere I can reach.'
& maybe all Marinette needed was one good foothold to pull Chloe all the way back, perhaps Farther than she'd ever been, or Marinette even realized was possible.
It was a tender little hope, strange and unsure, but somehow, in Marinette's mind, it felt like solid gold.
NOTES:
Wrote this is one sitting, then edited it, I hope it reads well XD
I have no plans to continue this, though if someone else wants to take it and run with it please feel free. I kind of envision Marinette re-inviting Chloe to the class group chat as a sort of olive branch and them slowly working through their respective issues.
Also Chloe turning up at Felix's with a tazer and the same martial arts skills that let her fight Mayura to a stand still and possibly, violently reclaiming Doosoo, cos you can pry Jock!Chloe from my cold dead hands!
#Text post#fanfic#MLB#mlb fandom#miraculous ladybug#marinette dupain cheng#chloe bourgeois#My work#Miraculous: Paris Under Siege#Also thanks to princess-of-the-corner for chatting with me about Choe & Marinette's dynamic#From Chloe's perspective.
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Dear show:
S2’s Maledictator: “Oh, it's not just her— actually, I don't even care about her— it's because I have no reason to be here: nobody likes me; I have no friends. I'm… useless.”
S5’s Derision: “Forgive me? What do I care about her forgiveness? I couldn't care less about Dupain-Cheng's feelings! She and the likes of her only exist to suffer for my entertainment. Why bother having power if you can't use it against those who don't have any?”.
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#Sure#It COULD be because she’s acting out or spiraling downhill due to events of Miracle Queen onward#but that’s not the reasons that HE would use#it’s because Chloe was ALWAYS like that#pff#please#chloe deserves better#bad writing#Thomas salt#miraculous ladybug#ml#mlb#miraculous tales of ladybug and chat noir#miraculous#miraculous tales of ladybug and cat noir#miraculousbeezcentral#chloe bourgeois#bee miraculous#marinette dupain cheng#contradicting
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Another Day in Chloe’s and Red’s Dorm:
Chloe: [Chilling outside their dorm talking to her friend briefly discussing the homework that Chloe’s friend had a small question about]
Red from the inside: [Scream of bloody murder and terror]
Chloe rushing inside, sword drawn, moving in front of Red to protect her from the threat she has yet to spot: What’s going on?! Are you okay love? Where’s the-
Chloe looking around the room and seeing nothing:
Chloe:
Chloe: Red?
Red, her hand already wrapped around Chloe’s free arm: Yes Bluely?
Chloe: Why did you scream?
Red: Oh, I just wanted attention! [Let’s go of Chloe’s arm to hugs her from behind]
Chloe:
Chloe: . . .
Chloe putting her sword back in her belt: [Heavy sigh in my-girlfriend-is-going-to-take-20-years-off-my-life-from-stress]
#glassheart#red will do anything for her chloe time and if she has to she WILL make it everyone else’s problem#red has already taken off like 20 years off Chloe’s life from the stress that Red brings when she pulls stuff like this lol#though like a knight in shining armor chloe takes reds screams seriously everytime no matter how much red does this#because chloe is always prepared to protect her girlfriend#these two are such cuties I love them so mucj#redcharming#charminghearts#glassrose#chloe x red#red x chloe#chloe charming x red of hearts#chloe charming x red#chloe charming#red of hearts#red of wonderland#princess red#rise of red#descendants rise of red#glassheart incorrect quotes
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vista
#art#hello from halo head#devil#halo head#hfhh#landscape#this is a BG i made to use in my comic several times this week#this is the full pan sans comic borders (and chloe's book) since i wanted to appreciate it on its own#for a dumb ass storyboard artist i do ok on some things outside my discipline#despite using solid colors with no blending i always think of these as digital paintings#incidentally i do all my digital paintings in Storyboard Pro#but i think not enough people use that program to understand how fucked up that statement is#whenever people ask me what program i use i tell them but then im like#but you should honestly just use CSP or procreate instead lol#i love SBP but that's because i just get attached to programs i use a lot#it was Flash before this#and i wouldn't recommend painting in flash either
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Army AU or Secret Task Force AU
Chloe an Red are Rivals
They work for a Organisation (their fathers worked there)
When they first meet their still realy young they meet because of their parents they like each other till one fatefull day
Christopher Charming was a legend at his job the best of the best and Reds Dad was his best friend who offten got in trouble and Christopher needed to save him a lot but they were the bestes of friends they were like brothers to each other
When Chloe was born he became like an uncel to her and the same with Red and Christopher
One day when Chloes and Reds Dads are on a Mission something horible happens Christopher got hurt and Reds Dad saved him he distracted the Enemy and Christopher could flee with his Team he beged that Reds Dad comes with him but he refuses so he can save the Team
the last thing Christopher hears from Reds dad is that it is better if he sacrefice himself than letting the whole team die and that he please takes care of his little heart
Christopher could not leave him but one look fom Reds Dad at his comrades that told them what to do got them moving and then they dragged Christopher away from him (he could not do anything because he was to injured to fight his teammates)
Forward to Reds Dads death Christopher was devestatet but he promised he would take care of Red he visited Red and Bridget often and played with Red and kind of neclected Chloe with it
Chloe began to despise Red and 2 years later her Dad died in a Mission and it became hate because half of the time he was with Red and not with his own daughter so she was jelouse that she didnt had that much time with him because of Red (they both are at that moment 8 years old)
Chloe and Red join the same Organisation at 20 were their dads worked at
They see each other for the first time in 12 years the last time was at Christophers funeral
They absolutly hate each other the first sec they see each other again
Red because she thinks Chloe got in only because of her Dad
and Chloe because of her Father and the time she lost because of Red
They are always bickering and always glare at one another you can literly cut the tension betwenn them and you know the Moment their in the same room because of it
Chloe one day gets promotet to a Captain (Team leader) position because she always ends her Missions with perfection and precision and because shes the perfect Team leader
She gets an Team with 7 persons on it and one of them is Red she hates it
Red gets placed in an secret task force because shes ruthles and gets all her Mission done with precision and fast you could say shes the best soldier they have there the only thing that anoyes her to no end is that Chloe is there and of course she is the f Team leader of the croup
They cant stand each other but still they completet all theyre Missions perfectly and efficient
till one day all goes harwire and their Team gets ambushed and they need to flee back to base
Red in the progress got shoot and even stabed in the Abdomen she powered trough it because it was nothing close to the abuse she gone through when her Father died her only relief was when her uncle Charming came to visit till the day it stoped forever and after that she gone through hell because of her mother
When theyre back at base Chloe looks at Red and thinks she looks like shit shes about to say something but then Red colapses to the cround barely alive
Chloe panics because she can barely feel Reds pulse
they rush her to the hospital and she gets brought to the operating room immediately they Operate for hours on her because she had damaged Organs and lost to much blood
Chloe staied in the hospital for all this time
Red survived but was in a coma for three days three days Chloe staied at the hospital and watched Red, three days she cries herself to slep on a chair becide Red and three days she came to understand what she feels for Red
When Red wakes up from the coma Chloe cries and hugs her Red to stuned to react just waited till Chloe stoped huging her
When she stoped she leant back and stared at Red a moment "I thought you would die Red and that i could never tell you that...." Chloe stops abruptly because she almost told Red that she loves her
But Red even under heavy pain meds gaught it "What do you want to tell me princess?" she asks
Chloe to flusterd at the nickname awnser to quickly "Nothing" witch a high pitcht voice
"Chloe it cant be that bad and even then im bound to this bed its not like i could jump out and kill you" Red Jokes
Chloe slowly breaths in and then whispers "im in love with you"
Red to stuned just stares at her and asks in a high voice "you what?"
Chloe to flustered just repeats her self lightly yelling "im in love with you you idiot"
Red finaly coming out of the stunned state shes in finaly awnsers to Chloes confession "you are more like an idiot.... and im in love with you to princess"
"WTF RED IM TELLING YOU MY......wait did did you just say that you love me to?" Chloe to flusterd in her state only got the first part till the second registerd in her brain
Red looks at her amused and anwsers with "yes princess i indeed did say that"
Chloe then looks at Red and leans slightly in and stops mere millimeter away from Reds lips to look if Red is against it she sees nothing but love in Reds eyes and then closes the cap betwenn them and kisses her softly
She accidently presses on Reds Abdomen and Red vinces from the pain
Chloe apologizes directly panict and then she hears Red gigle and her worry slips away
After that they come offiziell together and erveryone is extremly schocked about it when they find out moths later
they live happylie ever after and even become a daughter named Violett Grace and a son named Christopher-Redan like their dads
(lets pretent Reds Dads Name was Redan i didnt saw anyone who gave Reds dad a Name maibe because no one knows who he is so yea and im sorry if Redan is weard as a name)
#anyone wana write this#and make a full Story out of it#chloe charming#chloe x red#glassheart#red hearts#the rise of red#descendants the rise of red#red x chloe#redcharming#charminghearts#Reds Dad#christopher charming#me crying because it got deletet the first time i wrote this#i was literly done with it#not me geting the idea while watching seal team#i dont know why red always is in a coma when something bad happens when i write her like why
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I know Chloe is a fan unfavorite but I don't think she's all that bad. I definitely would have made changes to the way her character was written and how she was introduced, though. She deserved better than FOP season 10 (;ω;)
#vextriestoart#art#digital art#artists on tumblr#chloe carmichael#Chloe fop#fop#fairly odd parents#fop fanart#like ok so what if like she has really strict perfectionist parents who expect her to always be on her best behavior ->#so like she gets fairies to help her learn how to unwind and not always be so hard on herself to be mature and responsible all the time#or what if she was a sheltered kid who doesn’t know how to make friends or have fun because her parents were always moving around bc of work#idk that’s how I would’ve done it. I agree that her introductory episode doesn’t do a good job ->#of explaining why she would need fairies#it would’ve been nice to be shown why she’s miserable you know#but I’m rambling haha
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The portraits of younger heroes and villains in totally-not-EAH-and-SFGAE-rip-off Merlin Academy, if anyone's curious. And like, before anyone goes at me for that nickname for Merlin Academy: the villains group portrait literally has 'V.K students' under it, implying they themselves are children of villains, which just opens up the idea that these kids basically became evil like their parents before them and the only ones to not be evil are the prior Descendants main characters, aka, similar to main characters in EAH and SFGAE. At this point, Disney is losing their right to complain if EAH does ever return because the only one copying right now in Disney.
#disney descendants#descendants#descendants the rise of red#the rise of red#seeing ella's blue hair...god its a crime still like older her's hair and chloe's hair#again what is wrong with their natural hair color...#and why does bridget aka younger QOH have pink hair and red as an adult#could have fixed this with black hair like animated just saying#non-magical hair colors isnt a crime just pointing that out#granted not over mal and ben having to share a portrait for their students one#if that even is their students one#it has no writing so like#so it could be king and queen one for all i know but its got D3 mal who was only engaged at the time not coronated#so like i dunno but if they are sharing a portrait for former students rip#imagine not being able to have your own portraits because your king and future queen and have to always look like a perfect couple#also thats the mal mention counter up to 2 times now#uma mentioned her and uh now this portrait#that wasnt even properly defaced like the other portraits like come on#dont be scared to deface bal portrait#i would do it instantly
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Hazel is way more nicer and likable than timmy that and timmy is awful person this shut up why are you pitting two bad bitches against each other they would have been friends
#timmy is also nice too but writing and circumstance lead him to have a defense mechanism#like lets be real he was having a way tougher tume than hazel because#alot of people in his life suck couldn't do much from him amd couldn't always be there or didn’t care#hazel had had a more stable life so of course she's more well adjusted#she has her flaws obviously#just saying timmy would habe loved being friends with her if they ever met and be happy that cosmo and wanda#ended up with her yeah it's bittersweet but he would been happy for them#timmy and hazel would have had so much fun getting into adventures honestly she would have loved chloe too#timmy turner#hazel wells
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Weird Girls Go To Camp, version 4
These characters are from an old comic idea I had in high school. They've changed a lot over time lol
#original characters#oc art#character design#character art#i changed ingrids name to emily because there can only be one girl with an old lady name. thems the rules#also meshed chloe and sticks closer together. id always planned for them to be like siblings anyway but i think now its a bit more clear
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Wait no I have another dumb half thought out AU that I feel is kinda cringe: Chloe isn’t actually William and Joyce’s daughter, she’s actually William niece who he adopted because his half sister left her in their care.
Who is William’s half sister? Harley Quinn! William managed to escape his poor and abusive childhood, even moving across the country to do so. His younger half sister wasn’t so lucky.
This only comes out when Chloe and Max go on something of a crime spree. There’s no storm so the Prescott’s are out for blood due to the death of Nathan and Jefferson. Max doesn’t want to involve her parents (rightly fearing for their safety) but they’d needed money to survive. Between that and the mess they leave trying to defend themselves they’re one step down from Bonnie and Clyde.
They end up in Gotham, where 99% of crime sprees end, hoping that they can hide out there while trying to figure out what to do. However Max’s ability to rob banks/ stores is now perfected which draws the eye of Batman, who eventually finds Chloe’s DNA and finds out who her father is.
Honestly this AU is just an excuse for me to think how AWFUL Chloe would feel in this kind of scenario. Not only is William and Joyce not her parents but her blood parents are completely insane criminals (I picture this as taking place after Harley left the Joker but still) It’s for the womp.
#life is strange#chloe price#this idea came partly because I always picture Chloe with a bat as her go to weapon#like yeahhh she has a gun but she’s really bad with it#and mix bat with the fact she’s kinda mentally unhealthy AND that she’s blue and pink and that’s like …#diet Coke Harley Quinn right there !!!#also ! Harley does have a daughter that she hid from the joker!#so it WORKS!!!#but yeah this is kinda cringe
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one more thing and then i'll shut up but i think it's so true that if there's no joy for the writer then there's no joy for the reader. you can just Tell when the author had fun writing, there's a vitality behind the prose that speaks to a genuine enthusiasm for the craft. even if the subject matter is dark, you can still tell if the author enjoyed writing or if they just didn't care. and for lady macbeth i just can't help but feel the latter. and i can tell bc i have read all their previous works and felt the Energy behind the beautiful prose. this one felt....so dull. i never felt like i was being pulled into the story because it kept me at such a distance. it seems to me like it was written without much enthusiasm. various elements were so shoddily put together too—the relationship with her new handmaiden and the monster romance 🙄 it felt so random, they were there just for the sake of being there. i really don't feel like the proper care and attention was put into crafting this book that i've felt in their previous works. there was no passion here
#this is very intuitive but i am an intuitive reader first and foremost and nothing about this sparked any joy for me#i was so Aware that i was Reading A Book. if that makes sense#because when you're reading something actually compelling and engaging—you’re not reading anymore you're Experiencing#you're swept away into that world#i always feel that good writing is invisible bc you just don't notice it. it doesn't call any attention to itself. you get lost in it#also wait im sorry im going off on a tangent here. but i feel like this is kind of indicative of a problem with the publishing industry#when it comes to these new(ish) authors. a new book every year??? they need to take some time to develop their craft. let it breathe#*cough* chloe gong *cough*
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what's wrong with the existing ship names why do we need new ones
#lohst.txt#answer: most of them are impossible to figure out#do you know how long it took me to figure out why expensive headphones was called expensive headphones#hi hey hello I'm just talking shit again#if i dont like the ship name then i wont use the ship name. simple solution#the new ship names are following the same 'rules' i guess as the pre existing ones#theres. like. very few ship names that are portmanteaus#like. richjake. meremine. meremy hell. bich. deere. dillinjer. a certain ship that i dont want to name#but. yknow. a lot dont make sense#pins and patches came from. i think. a headcanon#i could jave sworn boardwalk boys came from a boy band au#*have#ive always called dirty blondes flower kids. only because the one person who wrote flower kids fics called them that#and that makes less sense than dirty blondes#look. half of them dont make sense and i dont know why theres new ones popping up#but im attached to them and some of them are good#royal pains?? i love it. stagedorks? classic. pinkberry?? amazing#also theres. like. no nice way to blend brooke and chloe#i dont think. or nothing i like the sound of#and i started calling the popular kids polycule 'high school royalty' because. well. they are#anyway i have thoughts about ship names#but im currently only capable of just saying things with no substance. just expressing dislike#so. this is another post of lara just talking shit on a non rebloggable post#it is almost 2am. that is all. goodnight
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There are still people that think Life is Strange is a genuinely good game???
#it has some of the worst dialogue in existence#literally one of the first things it does is bash on a woman for being too much of a ''girly girl'' and getting male attention#the choice thing doesn't matter because the ending undoes it all#anti life is strange#it was always bad#the sequel being bad makes sense because it is Bad#people only liked it because of the sapphics#and chloe is a fucking horrible person#toxic af#of course she and max didn't work out they were codependent teens#it is a surface level not like other girls YA fantasy#steeped in sexism#even the romance of chloe and max is lacking#life is strange#is the sequel even bad or is just not doing what you wanted it to
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i almost made a longass post about how i think it’s stupid that people always assume it’s either “Max and Chloe” or “Max and Warren” in a post hell week situation, but then halfway through i realized that i just dont like the amatonormativity behind that and saved you guys from another “nightly LIS post” from maxthesillyy
#i also realized it’s because Max and Chloe’s relationship is far more intense than Max and Warren’s#which is its own “nightly LIS post” by itself#alsoalso#Max and Chloe makes sense in post bae ending. it’s inevitable#but Max and Warren is subjective. your own opinion. but i see a bit too many people treating it as fact#like erm.#no#shut up#help this reminds me of that one thing#me: all ships are just as valid as eachother!!!!#also me when max and warren: 😐#sorry guys not to be a hater but my One Opinion that i will Always stand by is that max and warren are the Lamest and Most Boring LIS ship#WAIT LIKE#DO WHATEVER YOU WANT FOREVER I CANT CONTROL WHETHER OR NOT YOU THINK THEYRE CUTE /genuine#but….. like……. cmon.#lis#life is strange#max caulfield#warren graham#chloe price#barely#…i wish i could tag shipnames without it being inherently romantic#hey guys im aroace could you tell /silly#oh my cod i did NOT save you guys from a “nightly LIS post” whoops
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Can you draw Chloe and Adrien, please?
I've always thought that Adrien andj Chloe being friends is the combination of madness, So have some drafts that I made haha
#I delayed these because I was making them during the week. I'll try to do the others for tonight or tomorrow#I feel like there's something wrong with Adrien's face but I've already had to do several times and there's always something wrong!??#adrien agreste#chloe bourgeois#miraculous ladybug#Frogg art
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A detail I noticed about Feast
Feast (S3E15) is a very important episode for many reasons: it gives us Fu's backstory and origins of the miracle box, it hammers home the element of emotions when creating sentibeings, it restores the Tibetan temple and causes a chain reaction that is relevant later in the series (namely with Su Han), Mayura is there... but I rewatched it recently and I noticed a detail near the end that I believe to be foreshadowing.
At the end of Feast, our heroes defeat the sentimonster by entering it and cataclysm-ing Fu's staff with the amuk in it. Once Ladybug casts her Miraculous Ladybug and returns the world to normal, the Guardian Temple reappears and we can see the news reporting on it:
As the news is reporting on the temple, a few people can be seen watching (or listening). Those would be Gabriel and Nathalie, Tomoe, Alya, and Audrey Bourgeois.
Gabriel and Nathalie makes sense. They are Hawkmoth and Mayura, after all-- and Gabriel used the peacock with Emilie to create Adrien. Tomoe again is understandable, as she is a close ally to Hawkmoth and possibly used the peacock miraculous to create Kagami (which is all but confirmed in canon at this point.) And Alya herself is the catalyst for this episode's events: she brings Marinette to the Louvre where the dormant sentimonster is, shows Marinette her findings about the guardian symbol, and publishes those findings on her Ladyblog which HM & Mayura then discover. She's also a Miraculous holder too.
Now, why is Audrey watching the news? From a meta standpoint there's no need to show her in this scene since she isn't of the same importance that the others are. Hell, Audrey wasn't even in this episode before then. Even if her daughter is a Miraculous holder, Audrey has no reason to be interested in the Temple...
...unless, of course, she has some connection to the Miraculous.
As an aside... I'm not sure exactly what this means. If Audrey used the peacock to create Chloe like many believe, surely Audrey or Andre would've fallen ill like predecessors Emilie and Colt did. You could argue that she used the peacock miraculous to create Zoe as we've never seen Zoe's dad and aren't sure he's even alive, but considering this was in season 3 before Zoe was even introduced to us I have my doubts to believe this was the intent. Or maybe there's some unseen third option that I don't know about.
Regardless, this seems like pretty obvious foreshadowing to me. Even if this ends up going nowhere it's interesting to recontextualize it knowing everything that we know now. I don't think we've seen the last of Chloe or of her family quite yet (even if the writers want us to think we have.)
#as always sorry if someone's pointed this out before. but i didn't see anyone talking about it!#granted it's a really fucking old episode and i'm New In Town#miraculous#chloe bourgeois#indiposts#inditheories#Though to be honest it wouldn't surprise me if they've given up on the whole sentibeing-chloe thing.#TBH i dont think they know what theyre doing with chloe or any of the bourgeouis-es...#it seems like they tossed zoe in there to make up for how unlikeable chloe is#and so they dont have to properly give chloe an arc#because if they did give chloe an arc ppl who dont like her would be mad#and if they DIDNT then ppl who DO like her would be mad.#it's a lose-lose scenario especially since thomas himself hates her.#So things might have changed since feast was released#and chances are this background detail is going no where.#but i thought it was a fun observation to throw out in case they end up using it.#Some other notes: I hesitate to think that there are MORE sentibeings that we dont know about.#I dont think Gabriel seems like the type to toss out his miraculous all willy-nilly.#Him lending it to Colt seemed like a one-off thing#and him lending it to Tomoe seems like an even bigger stretch but not totally implausible esp considering the circumstances#The fact that they found the peacock exactly where it was left (that is to say exactly where Fu left it)#makes me think they are the only ppl who know about it#So while i've seen other ppl say that everyone at the Diamond Dance couldve been a sentibeing#I just don't see it happening. Sorry!#And that's why I don't even really know about Zoe.#But what I find interesting is the age gap between Zoe and Chloe.#Surely they must be close in age since they're in the same grade right?#And if that's the case... how did Audrey get pregnant so close together?#Might be another reason to believe one of them is a sentibeing... or adopted LOL.#Anyway i'm done! Lmk if you remember anything important! ciao
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