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Statement: 'Eddie doesn't like Tommy'
Incorrect.
Actual canon: Eddie had a massive dudebro crush on Tommy
Source: He hung out with him several times incl. introducing him to his kid.
Statement: 'Buck was trying to get Eddie's attention not Tommys'
Incorrect.
Actual canon: he is trying to get the attention of the hot pilot
Source: Bro literally said it was Tommy's attention he as trying to get
Statement: 'but the gym scene... Tommy wasn't even there so obviously it was Eddie's attention he wanted'
Incorrect
Actual canon: He was trying to get invited to the basketball pickup game because he knew Tommy was going to be there
Source: Eddie tried to make him go to the pick up games before and Buck was only interested once he knew Tommy would be there.
Statement: 'He is a bad person because he never apologised for his past actions towards Hen and Chim'
Incorrect
Actual canon: Shown growth in between each 'Begins' episode despite very little overall screen time and by the time he leaves it is very clear he is friendly and liked by both Hen and Chim.
Source: In 'Bobby Begins' all three are joking together and they hang out outside of work. Chim stayed in contact at least somewhat irregularly considering he called in a favour from him later on in s2 which is set at least a few years after 'Bobby Begins Again'. This shows that there has been some level of forgiveness between the characters. Also there's 15+ canon years between 'Chim Begins' and when we see Tommy again in s7. We don't know what apologies were made that weren't shown on screen, and sometimes actions speak louder than words. Plus no one is the same person as they were 15 years ago, especially if the 15 years younger you is stuck in the closet and terrified of your homophobic and racist boss finding out about that.
Statement: 'Tommy doesn't care about Buck and made a sex joke when Buck was trying to open up'
Incorrect.
Actual canon: Tommy checked in with Buck and gave Buck opportunities to talk about everything that had been going on. Buck was the one to imply about Daddy kink, Tommy just went along with it because he is letting Buck set the pace.
Source: They are grown ass men who are capable of both having a feelings conversation and also then make dirty sex jokes because again they are grown ass men and are probably having dirty sex as we speak.
Statement: 'The rest of the 118 don't like Tommy'
Incorrect.
Actual canon: Bobby thinks Tommy is 'good people'. Chim and Hen hung out with Tommy outside of work by 'Bobby Begins Again'. Chim likes Tommy well enough to keep in touch over several years to a degree where he can call in multiple favours.
Source: Just watch the show bruh
#im not actually gonna tag this bucktommy or anything that could potentially put this on peoples feeds#I just needed to vent out the ridiculous statements that I keep seeing being put out there as canon when its simply not true#if they were putting it out there as fanon then thats fine#thats literally what fandom is for: twisting canon into whatever we want so we can enjoy it but that makes it fanon#just because you want it to be so doesnt actually make it canon and theres a DIFFERENCE#Also can you please decide that youre only happy to take what is canon based on what is explicitly said on screen#(r.e Tommy never apologised because it was never explicitly shown ons creen)#OR#youre happy to make assumptions based on what ISNT shown explitly on screen#(r.e buck wanted eddies attention despite the on screen words being that he wanted tommy's)#because dying on BOTH hills? just weakens your arguments and is so full of contradictions#like i said i dont intend for anyone to see this bc i have no interest in perpetuating this fandom 'war'#i just needed to vent this out for myself
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Your g1->es starbee is so funnie and awesome In your mind how do uou think they got together in g1. Is it pre war. Cross faction romance. I want to go to the world of your transformers fanon
thank youuu^_^ the ES starbee 89 parter is somthn actually cooked up with my friend shayan so i cant took full credit for the vision. but i can take. half credit:)
basically they get together DURING THE WAR for some cross faction drama cuz theyre STUPID theyre so STUPID
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so they start this romeo and juliet sort of relationship where they keep having to meet in secret to hang out
we didnt dwell too much on how this actually came to be bcuz we were thinking of this as like a real episode script for a 3 parter that would never exist and was thinking their g1 relationship would only be shown in flashbacks while it was already well underway BUT in the back of my mind i always thought it was something like: starscream makes the odd offhanded battleground sarcastic sort of flirty comment at bee and bee is like "??" and internally is like Wow thats crazy i never noticed before that starscream isnt just a huge ugly disgusting hideous mean ugly shambling beast, hes all that but also....interested in me?
i think what draws bee to starscream is that hes treated basically as the baby of the autobots, but going along with my favorite bee characterizations (g1 and the g1 mini novel story 'Joyride' where he kidnaps some delinquents and reenacts Christine and is overall really delightfully evil, ES and idw) hes kind of a jackass sometimes and not just the "sweet little bumblebee, friend to all" that everyone sees him as. I think bee finds his relationship with starscream gratifying because its rebellious and forbidden and also starscream treats him so differently from all the autobots. I also think he gets some sick pleasure from feeling morally superior to him and being able to tease and banter with him and having it always be ok no matter how far he goes because its STARSCREAM its impossible to feel sorry for him.
as for what starscream gets out of it: a scheme. clearly. LOL! I think when they first met up it was just out of curiosity and he planned to kidnap him maybe but for some reason didnt. so they kept seeing each other....and starscream was like "ok this is fine, if i build up trust with this scout maybe i can SEDUCE HIM TO OUR SIDE or take him in him as a hostage and get some brownie points w megs or take him apart and use him as scrap metal or SOMETHING"
i think a point of tension in all their little meetups is them simultaneously thinking "hes so easy to manipulate/I CAN CHANGE HIM"
I think starscream tries to pull a "i was born with glass bones and paper skin" on bee every so often but bee is too smart to fall for it lol. (basically what he did to hashtag in ES- he never learns!) but every once in a while during their talks theres..a tiiiiiny glimmer of honesty...something deeper inside past the lies and fakeass traumadumping that keeps bringing bumblebee back for more....
every time bee broaches the topic of joining the autobots it gets shot down and everytime starscream mentions him joining them bee is like "Are you out of your ever loving mind"
eventually things fall apart, as lazerbeak follows starscream out on one of their secret dates and soundwave confronts him at their spot threatens to snitch. Star is like "Wait i was just using him this entire time i actually dont feel anything for him at all but im sooo close to getting him to trust me enough that i can put on a convincing 'i wanna join the autobots' gambit pleeease dont tell megatron"............and then (dramatic sting) bumblebee was there the whole time...and heard the whole thing...........he givse ss a chance ....starscream digs his heels in and is like gah soundwave you just wasted months of work and soundwave is like ok lets just capture him. (lowkey he knows they were serious abt eachother and is using this as a way to make him choose between this bug or the decepticons) so starscream attacks bee and they capture him and in typical g1 fashion the autobots save him before 20 minutes are up but at that point all trust is LOST starbee is OVER theyre BROKEN UP AND STARSCREAM AND BUMBLEBEE HATE EACH OTHER NOW!!!!!!!!! (i think before optimus and crew showed up to the brig to bust him out starscream tried to come and talk to him when no one was looking but they got into a fight and starscream got genuinely angry that bee didnt believe this couldve TOTALLYYY BEEN AN INTENTIONAL GAMBIT...YOU SHOULDVE TRUSTED ME, so he digs his heels in even deeper and is like ITS TRUE I HATE YOU STUPID AUTOBRAT)
the war goes on. fast forward a million years. and they still havent talked extendedly since then. LOL
theres like a million things that happen in the ES portion but i feel like this ask response is long enough and also its not relevant to what you asked
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last one from me (hopefully!)
“I don´t get that anon. What is "BT shippers who claim to like Eddie, what kind of future do you envision for him if BT is endgame?" supposed to mean? First of, nobody has to "claim" anything. The implication here that people are only pretending to like Eddie is kind of odd.” – Well you see, I found it kind of shocking the way a heap of seemingly ride-or-die buddie shippers dropped buddie and eddie like a hot potato the second that a side character man with a questionable past kissed buck.
For one thing, there was relatively little fandom discussion about buck’s horrible behaviour toward eddie during 7x04 (which has been largely forgotten and glossed over). All anyone cared about from then on was BT and bi buck. Within days(?) of 7x04, people posted fics and spec about Eddie being homophobic when Buck comes out to him and tommy having to comfort buck, and about Eddie dying so that BT could raise Christopher together.
The rest of the season saw people generally posting about how Eddie’s a mentally unstable mess and a user and Buck should wash his hands of him and go be happy with Tommy etc. I remember BTs fanoning about Buck leaving Eddie in the kitchen in 7x09 to go to Tommy so Tommy can “f-ck him calm”. Etc.
You could say this is why I have trouble imagining BT shippers who also love Eddie, as most/all of what I’ve seen from BT shippers is general disparagement of and a lack of giving af about Eddie. Which is fine! You don’t have to care about him! But I was curious to know the perspective of BT shippers who apparently DO like Eddie and DO care about him. How do they picture Eddie will find happiness in the show? I was curious! I don’t get why it’s so shocking of me to ask questions in the hope of gaining a different perspective?
"Well you see, I found it shocking the way ride or die buddie shippers dropped buddie and Eddie like a hot potato the second that a side character with a questionable past kissed Buck" - signed, PURITY CULTURE
I'm sorry but AGAIN, PEOPLE ARE ALLOWED TO LIKE WHATEVER SHIP THEY WANT.
Why does it matter that people like a certain ship? THAT'S NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS. IF YOU ARE A RIDE OR DIE BUDDIE STAN, THEN THATS OKAY! IF OTHER PEOPLE LIKE BUDDIE AND BUCKTOMMY- THATS ALSO OKAY! WHY IS THAT SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND?????
I know it's hard to believe but y'all buddie stans DON'T have a monopoly on shipping 911 characters! And btw, most people who were buddie fans, actually do like Bucktommy. And haven't stopped loving Eddie as a character.
AND AGAIN-
Tommy's past no longer became questionable the moment he reconciled his relationship with Hen and Chim. Hen and Chim throwing him a farewell party with cake doesn't not excuse what he did, but it nullifies ANY notion that he was a "questionable" character. Chimney calling on Tommy to put out the burning house, ultimately saving Eddie's life, makes him a friend the 118 could rely on. Tommy coming in clutch when the 118 needed to rescue Bobby and Athena, makes him a trusted friend who Hen and Chimney put their faith in. Eddie immediately taking a liking to him, Bobby telling Buck that "Tommy's good people & they didnt have to talk about it" meant that Bobby trusts him. All of these HARDLY renders him a questionable character.
Also, "BT shippers not giving af about eddie"??? Really? Because from what I've seen, a MAJORITY of buddie stans actually dgaf about Eddie. They bulldoze over his character and make everything that happens to him, somehow related to Buck. If he makes a new friend, or has an interest in someone like Kim or, he's remembering Shannon and how he's still broken over her, buddie stans make it all about Buck and buddie.
Eddie has barely been given the luxury of growing as a character outside of Buck because all y'all are concerned with, is buddie.
And the problem with you asking about how and why BT shippers who do like Eddie envision a future for him, was that you asked it in bad faith. The number of toxic BT stans is OUTWEIGHED excessively by toxic buddie stans who make it their business to be INSUFFERABLE about buddie in EVERYTHING the 911 fandom does. Bottom line, yall hate seeing Buck with anyone but Eddie. It would be better to just admit this rather than trying to disparage Tommy's character who has totally been absolved and reconciled in the canon.
#anti bucktommy#anti buddie#buddie#bucktommy#eddia diaz#tommy kinard#evan buckley#911 fandom#fandom discourse
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Wait, I’m confused do you or do you not ship Jayrose?
short answer: usually no but ill ship it when its funny
long answer:
most of the reason i dont personally like it is because i see rose as a lesbian and i dont enjoy any ships of her with men (its fine if other people do! its just not my thing), plus i hc jason as aroace so im also not very interested in jason ships unless im in a very specific mood (the "specific mood" being jaykyle lmao. every few months i get really obsessed with jaykyle for a few days then i forget about it for the next few months. then the cycle repeats)
another reason i dont like it is that i am constantly in fear of rose becoming Jason's Girlfriend in comics and online. like how babs and kory are both seen as Dick's Girlfriend (also steph and tim to a lesser degree atm) and people refuse to engage with their character not in reference to their boyfriend, so writers have them constantly mention their relationship with dick even in comics that hes not in (like batgirls having dick show up randomly/birds of prey (1999) having babs talk about dick alllll the time, or kory in the current blue beetle run constantly mentioning dick even though theyre not dating rn and jaime has never even met dick). and thats somewhat starting to happen with rose where shes only in comics that jason is in and if jasons not in it then jason gets mentioned (see: catwoman #62). and obv as a rose fan i really don’t want that to happen because she’s such a great character outside of jason and i don’t want her to be reduced to just who she is with him. this is mostly me overreacting, especially since she had a miniseries just last year that jason was not in or mentioned at all. but being a fan of a female comic character means that most people are not willing to talk about her without mentioning her relationship with a man, and its even worse when the man is a batboy so i’m constantly on alert
so basically thats why it puts a bad taste in my mouth, but i have no issue with the ship itself or anyone who ships it!
i think jason & rose are extremely compatible. i see them as bffs but i genuinely do think about them in a relationship a lot even though i dont necessarily ship it. im rotating both of them in my mind 24/7 so i think about how i think they would act in a relationship & how it would ideally be done in canon. but i just dont trust any comic writers to actually respect rose
the reason i said that jayrose is one of the only jason ships that matters is because most jason ships are soooo bad... i wont name names but some jay ships rely on one or both of them being extremely out of character for it to work at all. in terms of jason ships, jayrose is one of the best just because a) an in-character jason AND an in-character rose would genuinely get along really well and b) none of the stories that they've been in have really been THAT out of character (with the exception of gotham war imo, which i went into here so i wont beat a dead horse. dceased was pretty bad too but that’s tom taylor’s fault it has nothing to do with jayrose). also unlike many other jason ships, a good portion of the people that ship jayrose are the ones who actually read the comics so it tends to be an actual Nuanced and Accurate portrayal. ofc there are many exceptions to that but as of rn jayrose is not one of the Certified Batfam Ships (you know those ships that are the only ships that fanon fans know about so whenever they want to give their fav a boyfriend they shove em with another character they know nothing about. like dick/wally where people say "well they were friends in yja thats enough for me" and they havent read anything with wally in it besides dick/wally fanfic and they dont care about him outside of his relationship with dick), so theyre somewhat safe. but unfortunately because of titans tv its also shipped by The Worst Man You've Ever Met so. you win some you lose some ig
it bothers me when people claim that they dont like jayrose because they "dont like what it does to rose" ???? literally when has jayrose ever been bad for rose. her worst out of character moments have nothing to do with jason in any way. she doesnt get sidelined for him and she doesnt get reduced to a damsel in distress or something. its annoying to me that people feel the need to make up an excuse for why they dont like the ship so they use rose as a scapegoat and pretend that theyre doing it for her when they actually dont know anything about her. just say you dont like it and move on! you dont need to justify it you can just not like it
so for the most part i have no issue with it, which is why i tend to mention it when i think its funny. theres a lot of jayrose content that i enjoy bc theyre fun together and i like seeing them interact! i dont ship them but i think its a good ship <3
however. despite all that i still have more thoughts. im playing devil's advocate against myself and disagreeing with everything i just said
because also. its kind of not in character for them to date. i like where they're at right now because theyre kind of in a casual thing, like theyre hanging out and having sex in the bushes but theyre not Dating. theyre not in a serious relationship that we've seen (other than gotham war but im not acknowledging that), so i like where they're at right now. hanging out, rose flirting aggressively and jason giving her next to nothing in return because he cant flirt, and probably having sex off panel*. i think theyre in a good place at the moment and i dont want it to change from exactly where it is right now in canon. *inside my head theyre actually just pals that pretend to flirt because they think its funny. they do not have sex off panel and they dont want to but the insane flirting is an inside joke that no one else thinks is funny. but thats just me
because neither of them has really shown any interest in dating (when written in character! so we're not counting rhato). the most "interested" jason has ever been in someone is minor flirting with donna in countdown. but he did not make a move on her and repeatedly said throughout that book that he was only focused on the mission and did not care about anything else. he doesnt seem to actually be interested in a relationship with anyone, partially because hes extremely emotionally closed off (to a degree. he is VERY open with his emotions, but hes not the kind of person that lets people into his life easily) and also because he just has other shit to think about. no sex only vengeance.
and ROSE. she is the most closed off person you will ever see. she will have casual sex in an effort to suppress all emotions (which i could talk about extensively. but thats not what this post is about), but she doesnt date people. the only people that she was close to being in a relationship with were eddie and hosun. with eddie, it was all flirting, emotional moments, and her pushing him away. she genuinely liked him (arguably. i could go into how its comphet but that is once again not what this is about), but she was closed off and didnt want to date him because she has so many issues. she tried to make him jealous and did her aggressive flirting thing like she does with jason, but she did not want to have an actual relationship with him. and with hosun, she once again (arguably) genuinely liked him, but she did not tell him that. she MARRIED HIM and still didnt talk to him about her feelings. he liked her and was interested in a relationship with her, but she did not want to embrace that and didnt make any effort to have a real relationship with him outside of agreeing to stay married to him after slade was arrested. she doesnt have any interest in actually dating the guys she likes, and shes so emotionally repressed that she will not make any effort to even be close with them
i hate phantom-one and i hate the idea of rose dating phantom-one but. i genuinely think their "relationship" is pretty in character for her (brisson understands her so well), because at most they have some nice conversations. shes somewhat interested in him so she'll come onto him a bit (no aggressive flirting but still), and she opens up to him when shes at her absolute lowest, then she leaves. shes more focused on what stormwatch is doing and she shows little interest in phantom-one during missions, but she likes him and oscillates between ignoring him and hitting on him. so.. out of the relationships rose has in recent canon..... i could make the argument that rose/phantom-one is more in character for her than jayrose even though i like jayrose a LOT more than i like rose/phantom-one
so yeah. its in character for them to get along. but i DONT think its in character for them to be in a serious relationship. which is another part of the reason im kinda skeptical about their relationship in canon, just because i dont want it to be an actual Relationship since it doesnt really make sense for them to actually date given... everything about them.
but again thats all just my opinion! ship whatever you want we're all just playing with dolls
#the way that half this post is in parentheses… i just have so many side thoughts that i need to share#i wish i could annotate my posts so i could give side thoughts and reasonings for every single sentence#rose wilson#jason todd#dc
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here to say thank you for understanding the characters the way as they should be, so many misinterpret them horribly and take them at their face value or will straight up make up a headcanon and then trick themselves into thinking thats what the character is(yang being the biggest one that gets mischaracterized so much and so badly). you actually go through each characters heads while considering canon material and fune tooth combing each and every scene and piece of information for them
i try my best lol. i'm sure i get stuff 'wrong' (i.e. not necessarily what the writers themselves were going for) every now and then, such is life when we all come from different backgrounds and have different life experiences that mold us, but nothing is more fun than putting myself in specific character's shoes and really digging in to see what makes them tick, how their backstories inform their actions, both past and present, and so on and so on.
i think a common stumbling block—besides headcanons taking priority, which frankly is a package deal with fandom in general—is the though that if you like a character, they must be good, and if you dislike a character, they must be bad, which leads to all their actions being painted in same light, nuance be damned. people want nuanced and flawed characters as long as it suits them; the moment it doesn't, all that gets thrown out the window while still claiming that nuance is everything—just don't point out that the character they like might actually be *GASP* flawed, or that character they dislike might actually not be Pure Evil™, and everything is fine.
(people relating to characters probably also plays a part here; any pointed flaw towards a character they like is seen as an attack against them, etc.)
yang to me is a fascinating case, because, well. people often point towards jaune as the character most often bastardized by fandom, and i completely get that, but what i've also found is that these jaune fans often just. stay on their lane, doing their own thing, which is very easy to ignore if you so please. with yang, though, i've seen people getting upset at other fans for taking an official description of yang into account when portraying her in artwork or fics and straight up claiming that the very obvious canon trait of yang's is either a) never really been a thing (it has very much been a thing since day 1), or b) a made-up fanon thing, and it's like
if you don't like it, take it up with rooster teeth??? why get mad at other fans for characterizing yang as she is in canon??? makes no sense lmao
anyway, not that i need them to stop; the most appreciation i've gained towards characters has been solely because i've seen takes about them that immediately, without ever having thought about these characters that deeply before, make me go "that's bullshit" and then dig through canon to make myself understand why my instinct was that strong—and often finding new things that i had never considered before. it's a win-win situation for me skdgkjhkfh
#thanks for the kind words!! ♥#anon#ask.strqyr#most importantly i'm just here to have fun#ultimately these are just made-up characters#they're not real#they can be or do whatever any writer wants them to be or do#like it is that deep... but also it isn't#if that makes sense?
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I don't think a canon daddy for one would be pleasant like the fanon daddy for one majority enjoy. I think too many people may be getting their hopes up on him being a father and husband who cares and may be setting themselves up for disapointment. I think we should be prepared for anything. I'm fine with a more callous hubby and dad afo, but I don't think others would be.
Fair point and I agree with you! Thats the danger personal headcanons and theorys bring with! If people are really invested in something and form their own headcanons how the story should go but doesnt, the dissapointment can destroy the whole story for you and people will even lash out at the author for not writing the story they want him to write it. In the end, no matter how dfo will play out, its horis story and we all need to accept that. Not gonna lie if things dont turn out the way I would like them to, I will be dissapointed too, but in the end I know its not the end of the world and its horis story.
And I just want to remind you that not all dfo fans actually believe that afo loves/cares for his family. There are many of different kind of dfo fans. A lot of them dont believe in "good" dfo in which he loves his family. There are dfo fans who think everything he does is for his family, then the ones who believe he cares to some extent but in the end would still choose his demon lord persona, the ones who believe he only sees izuku as somekind of extention from himself and inko as a pet and also people like me who think he DOES love them (because thats what the hints and evidences are telling me) but its a twistet and toxic kind of love and borderline obsession, in short what afo feels for his brother.
I think in the end most dfo fans will just be happy if dfo is FINALLY confirmed no matter what afo will feel for his family in the end! The dissapointment will of course be there no matter how it turns out, but at least dfo fans will finally have the confirmation that we did read the evidences and hints hori put in the story the right way and that we never were stupid or delusional for believing in it.
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theres many reblogs of this i wanted to respond to so i will be posting screenshots and my thoughts
yeah… this is a gripe i have with many art styles in general (not just hermitcraft) because giving every character a tiny nose feels extremely eurocentric beauty standards.
you can figure out how to draw larger noses in a way that works with your style. i believe in you. (directed at people who do this)
a lot of people said they were bothered by a lack of body variation in some way or another and, while i do fully agree, that is also like. a legitimate problem. fatphobia and anti-aging and societal beauty standards etc. so not exactly what i meant with this post :p i do think that while it is pretty off-putting to see specific hermits drawn skinny (stress, impulse, cub, etc), if someone’s lineup has a good range of body types but they just drew a couple with a body type i usually dont imagine them with— thats pretty much fine. i more just want a broad range of variation, i don’t particularly need any one hermit to be drawn with any one body type all the time.
but anyways yes i completely agree with the pix statement in this one. people forget that he loved mischief— he just does mischief more analytically.
this is an interesting one because ive never really heard anyone talk about this :o i havent been aware of it personally, anyway. my cleo design is more just ‘person with scars and injuries’ rather than ‘sewn together’ but i think that was just because i wanted to give her vivisection scars
neither design really bothers me but i respect your opinion o7
i think the head-wings are a bird-winged character design thing in general, not just with mcyt. but yeah it is strange and i dont really know why people do it shrug
im gonna be honest i agree with this a lot. i dont mind the bird thing on paper but having it be so ingrained into fanon makes it so bland …. my grian is just human. bless. i also think its very funny for him to just be human. i like some bird grians from specific artists but yeah the majority of fanon grian isnt my favorite thing in the whole world. i dont like the height thing either :[ i do think he’s one of the shorter hermits but to me he’s like 5’5 at the least.
there’s some kind of association between mischief and being young so any prankster automatically gets drawn looking younger and any older prankster has their whimsy forgotten…. literally 1984 dystopia society
these people just agree with each other and i think thats beautiful. pearl is a creature… pearl is like if the night sky could bite you
TRUE!!!! omg ive been thinking about this so much lately. and ive been working on designing different mobility aids for scar because its something that people put such minimal thought into and that sucks! ive been drawing him with crutches usually but i think he would have to use leg braces along with those. i dont know if scar has ever said anything about how people represent his disability in fanart and i also dont know exactly how it affects him (and of course it is his right to be private about that) so i can only really speculate— but also balance that speculation with functionality. like, he would need different aids for different situations. you cant really sword fight while using crutches and you cant really scale a mountain in a wheelchair. but i digress. use your design brains guys i know you can do it 💪
thats all goodnight hermitnation
does anyone else have mcyt design pet peeves…. like things that arent in any way morally questionable or unreasonable but that bother you more than anything
for me its when people draw joel (smallishbeans) with no facial hair…. even the three lines on his chin is better than nothing !! i completely understand why people do this because he doesnt have facial hair in his youtube icon or normal minecraft skin but. its my little pet peeve. it doesnt feel right to me
leave yours in the reblogs if you want ☝️
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2 3 19 and 21 for the writers asks!
2. well, at first, but after a while i think i'd just give up lmao. that plus i tend to be pretty disorganized so unless im keeping it in a folder or smthn that wip is going straight to the shadow realm /j
3. hmm... i guess it'd have to be having a brainrot about my wip ideas over the course of at least a few days and then losing all motivation when i actually sit down to try and make it real. it happens a lot-
21. probably not. ive been into writing since i was little, and its a hobby thats stuck to me for years, so having to quit something i enjoy doing so much sounds like a nightmare... that being said, im always welcome to take breaks from writing. a hiatus is fine but flat out quitting is a no
and finally, ask 19, which is really, really long, so ill just put it under a read more for the sake of everyone lmao
19. i started when i was really little. what age? cant remember. i had a very early love of reading and writing, so i decided to start writing stories! i originally started on paper, writing stories about whatever scenario came to mind. it didnt matter if i finished them or not, i still enjoyed it, yknow? however, the thing i loved most was making comics which combined my love of art and writing.
after a long while, i stopped with the random scenarios and started focusing more on developing coherent stories that were tied together. surprisingly, i didnt start writing online until i was around 8 or 9. it started in powerpoints of all things where i rambled about the ideas i had for my OCs and (again) random scenarios, as well as getting my friends to do roleplays. i still miss the pokemon rp me and my friends made in 3rd-4th grade ;w; good times
eventually, i moved on to the much more sensible word documents (this was when i was 9, 10 or 11 i think) where i began the creation of my Kirby fanon universe. the fanon lore that ive made for Kirby is probably the most headcanons ive ever had for anything (as Kirby was my first fandom), so this is like the beginning of a legend to me.
finally, i signed up for Fandom Wikia with the goal to share my stories with the internet. i began my migration all over the place, going from Fandom Wikia to Wattpad, then to Tumblr, then to Comic Studio, then BACK to Tumblr... its been a crazy ride. but no matter where i went i made sure to share my stories.
now, im trying to improve on my writing skills. upon rereading my older fanfics, i realized they were... well, not the best. currently, my writing to-do list is to finish the Daily Life section of my Danganronpa multiverse crossover fic, begin writing an idea for an owlbit fic, and to begin the rewrites of 2 of my older works. its a little daunting of a task, but im sure that i can do it! besides, my fanfics arent particularly popular (i only have 27 followers on wattpad rip) so i dont have to worry too much about people begging me to get on w/ the chapters heh
anyway, thank you for the ask! have a duck as an apology gift for having to read that big wall of text :D
he got the. hat
#thank you for the ask it was very nice getting to ramble a bit :D#long post#<- forgot to tag this oops
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a large chunk of writers in the ah community (hell a large chunk of the ah community full stop) are white and it shows in how a good sum of them write non-white characters. its an issue in all fanfiction about non-white characters/people written by white people. often theyre reduced make them one-note, one joke, one purpose narrative tools that often rely on weird racist fanon that interprets them as uwu smol beans or total evil bad!!! no matter what role said character might play in the story. theres no development or character study, no room for complex ideas and concepts. its something white writers (myself included) need to unlearn because from learning about this from bipoc whp are creators that i know, ive learnt just how blatant it is (especially when it comes to black people in fandom and the treatment of black characters. thats a WHOLE connected and massive issue).
I'm glad you've pointed this out in the AH fandom because the way people choose still to focus on ryans character instead of the many new personalities and members that have been added in the recent year is incredibly telling about where the focus lies. Racism isn't just the blatant stuff we see on reddit. It's ingrained and needs active work to unlearn and it should be recognised and rectified if spaces like these are going to be made safe for BIPOC who are fans and/or creators.
:) <3
i have a bad habit of putting the most important stuff i want to say in the tags, especially in regards to subjects like racism in fandom, and part of that is due to the fear of being harassed. going forward, i'm going to try to kill that habit, because i've truly been through a lot of shit; from everything with haywood since last october, to the constant, rampant attacks towards mica, fiona, ky, bk, and every other member, guest, and fan of color since i first joined the fandom back in early 2014, and much longer before i even joined. hell, i rarely mention that i'm black because of all this shit. i'm still scared of being harassed, but at this point, i truly have nothing to lose.
frankly, a reason why a decent chunk of the AH fandom, and any fandom in general, are white is because fans of color just don't feel safe. either that, or they're ran out of what they thought was an inclusive, welcoming community due to the harassment they received. in the worst case scenario, that harassment can lead to someone taking their own life, but that's considered too taboo to talk about in a white-dominated fandom space.
the beef i personally have with fanfiction writers in this community is, along with everything you've said, that they treat the real people they're writing about as purely fictional ocs. this is why i believe that people are still writing the vagabond or the mad king or whatever fucking character ryan came up with as if it were their own. they use the bullshit "separate the art from the artist" excuse because they know what they're doing is wrong, but they don't care enough to stop. they just want to find some lame justification to get away with it. it's the same thing when general fans, especially white fans, pretend the blatantly racist comments they spew are totally fine because, in their words, "it's just criticism."
they're too stubborn to change. and i guess, so am i, in a way? despite everything, i'm still here, because no matter what, i'm too stubborn to leave.
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Magnolia should be allowed to strike Affogato down, as a treat-
SHE SHOULD BE. shes the one who raises the alarm actually and clues carrow into the how suspicious he really is. carrow is fine with playing along since, she's loyal to cacao and it would be disrespectful to doubt who he puts his trust into,,,, but magnolia Doesn't really give a fuck about cacao SO. she immediately sees this fucker for who she is. carrow holds more power and is more vocal so affo takes her out of the picture,,,, but magnolia still lies in wait. she doesn't get to kill him, since, that's a sure fire way to get executed for treason, and by the time the cat is out of the bag carrow's already killed him [as far as my fanon goes] and personally thats a more satisfying option for me and the narrative. BUT. i think she SHOULD be allowed to kill him assuming u were requesting a doodle so. YIPPEE. sorry for ranting. idk how to draw affo tbh but GOOD ENOUGH
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Gale's Top Ten: Worst ML Characters
Here are the rules:
1. This is based SOLELY on my view of the CANON Interpretation of the character. I am not doing anything based on Fanon Headcanons or Character fandoms. (If that were the case, Certain Characters would be MUCH higher.)
1.5: (I am not counting the comics I am going based SOLELY on what has been shown on the show)
2. Worst in the definition is the following criteria. A character I considers 1. Objectively bad, 2. Personally Bad, 3. Conceptually Bad. or a combination of the 3.
2.5. Something that is personally bad will not off worse for me then something Conceptually or Objectively bad. But the more a character hits these points. The Higher they will be.
3. They need to have to appear AT LEAST Once AND have dialogue in that appearance.
4. This list is MY OPINION, and nothing else. So if you don't like it or Agree, that is fine _______________________________________________________________________
10. Otis Cesaire/ Animan
Honestly he isnt bad as a character in most regards. I just CANT stand Animan. The akuma is such a LAZY idea. Like they didnt really give him a unique form and the reason he was akumatized was just so stupid. The reason he is so low is because he is fine in his other appearances. But I cant overlook how cartoonishly dumb his motivation for being akumatized was.
9. Vincent Aza/ Pixelator
I am going to level with ya, His civilian self REALLY skeeves me out. His akuma is kind of cool. but the dude is a creepy stalker and his appearance was just so cringe. Aside from that his akuma and his design are fine. I have no complaints about the episode outside of his character.
8.André Glacier
Honestly, the idea of him is good on paper, but any man that puts Orange and Mint ice cream together and calls that a good flavor combination is actually a sociopath that is ready to murder. Also, his akumatization reason was dumb. I also just find him kind of... bleh in most cases. Nothing really awful but just kind of irritating.
7. Zoé Lee/Vesperia
I should Clarify. i dont hate her specifically. I just Hate what she represents. She is a cheap cop out. She was designed to be the new bee hero and its clear that she was created by Thomas purely out of spite. Im not a Chloé stan, nor am I someone that cares if Chloé gets a redemption or not. But Sole Crusher and Queen Banana (the two episodes Zoé starred in) had this air of manipulation to it that just seemed so... distasteful. Chloé (who was always mean) was made out to be infinitely meaner coming off as cartoonishly evil. And then there is Zoé who we are TOLD is sweet, and kind and everything Chloé isnt. And thats the real problem. Zoé is a Character that we are TOLD to like. And that rubs me the wrong way. I want better for her, and I hope later seasons help expand on her more.
6. Luka Couffaine/ Viperion
As time goes on, I find my opinion on Luka shifting. But now I think I found a definitive Opinion on the character. He is basically the Zoé of season 2. Luka is the other love rival. In comparison to Kagami, who was developed and put as a strong character, Luka was sort of... put in and we are told is nice and good. Truthfully we dont really get much development for him until the first episode of SEASON 4. Up until that point we only had. 1. Is nice. 2. Is in Band. 3. Likes Marinette. 4. Is Juleka's brother. The problem is also with the framing we see him in. We dont get a perspective of him from Adrien's side. We only really see him from Marinette's Lens. And really most of Luka is just told by others. We are TOLD that Marinette likes him from like 5 different people before she says so. We are told that they are good together. Really its just a series of Tell and not show (Until season 4, and even then Gang of Secrets still does it). I will say he is at least more developed then Zoé, but for the most part their placement on the list is pretty much interchangeable. Though the deciding factor is just... the look. Zoé is nicer to look at aesthetically. So thats why she is lower on the list. Though if i included the fandom shenanigans involving him (he would number one because of just how awful the toxic stans were/ are)
5.Tikki
Tikki is my least favorite Kwami.
She is not really a great partner, she always seems to be the one that points out what Marinette is doing is wrong, the problem is, that most of the time, Marinette isn't doing something actually wrong. Tikki is the Lesson dealer in most episodes and the lessons usually don't make sense or are Obvious. Tikki can be caring, but she is just not that great at being an emotional support for Marinette. Which is ironic because you would think Plagg would be the worse partner Kwami, but he isn't. I hoped Season 4 would help fix tikki. But really it only showed how much BETTER the other Kwami are and she seems even LESS competent then before. Plus Tikki is so inconsistent that at times i am not even sure what she wants.
4. Nathalie Sancoeur/ Mayura
Now we are at the point when I personally dont like the characters. I never really like Nathalie at the beginning. She just seemed like a boring assistant Character, at least in the first half of season 1. Origins made me see her in a slightly more positive light, and when I heard rumors that she was going to become a villain, I was stoked. But then... her character dropped. Her love for Gabriel seems almost out of nowhere and her care for Adrien is sadly dismissed whenever Gabriel/Hawkmoth needs her. Her character could be so easily improved, but she was quickly made the sickly sacrificial lamb. There is so much potential with Nathalie and it makes me Angry how poorly done her character is. I don't hate her concept, I just hate the execution. Though to her credit, she is clearly the smarter of the two. And if she was the main villain she likely would have been a MUCH bigger threat.
3. Thomas Astruc:
I hate shameless Self inserts. There is an art to it. And really this was not a good one. I know it will be a bad episode the moment he shows up and has a prominent role. It just screams ego to me and it is greatly irritating.
2. Gabriel Agreste/Hawkmoth/Shadowmoth
I am a guy that LOVES villain character. Give me malicious villains, give me corny villains, give me theatrical villains, sympathetic villains, tragic villains, diabolical villains, genius villains, psychotic villains, silly villains, any sort of villain that is over the top. With Hawkmoth he just doesn't hit the notes right, they try to make him sympathetic, but then they make him so theatrical that he enjoys evil, they try to make him strategic in a few episodes but then have him akumatize pigeon man 72 times! His akuma can escape his notice and go rogue. His characterization is not consistent or defined, the main problem is, he isn't crazy enough to pull off the uncertainty. He is too sane to be insane, to incompetent to be threatening, too manipulative to be sympathetic. Hawkmoth suffers from being too much or not enough of a villain trait that makes him so middling. The only thing consistent is that he is a really s*** parent. I will say he is somewhat improving in this season but honestly not enough for me to say I enjoy his presence. We needed a new main villain 2 seasons ago.
1. Su Han
I hate everything he represents. He is the Grand master of the order of Guardians. He is shown to be an arrogant D-bag. He is unnecessarily disrespectful when talking to Fu. He is a coward, and he demands respect that is unearned. I use to really hate fu in the past, He use to be my least favorite character, Especially with the episode Feast. But after meeting Su Han, I got it. NO WONDER FU MADE THOSE MISTAKES, THIS A**HOLE SUCKED! Child abuse, potential Kwami abuse. The guy was a dill weed that him and his advanced order lost to a 4 FOOT BLUE DOG. His appearance RUINED the mystic of the order of guardians. Sure he has a cool fighting style and techniques, but that doesnt change the fact that the order of the guardians were incompetent idiots that couldnt handle 1 dog. Ladybug and Chat noir shoud have not cast miraculous healing, and left the order in the past where it BELONGED.
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can anybody please explain the appeal of tim drake because ive been into the batfamily for a while now and tbh im really confused on why people like his character so much compared to the other robins. like they all have their own thing going on and he just... doesnt?
Have you read his Robin solo? Because if not and you want to try to like him but just don’t understand why people do, that’s what I’d recommend. That and like, Young Justice 1998.
Because Tim definitely... does have his own thing going on. Maybe not in the same way as the others, but like, there’s a reason he has a 183 issue long solo comic that ran for like 16 years: he was fun to read about!
But I will give some more specific thoughts on the subject as a Tim Drake Appreciator™ (this got long im sorry)
The appeal of Tim (especially early on Tim) is kinda the fact that he’s this more normal kid. For a while that is his ‘thing’. He was basically designed to be a self-insert (he definitely became more than that along the way, but from the start he was meant to be relatable) in a different way than how Dick and Jason had been before him.
Like the role of Robin from the start was this way to create a character young readers could identify with more, could see themselves in more. And Dick and Jason did that, but they still had this element to their lives and stories that was more... unattainable for the average reader. Dick was a circus prodigy, Jason was either also a circus prodigy if we remember pre-crisis or if we go with his post-crisis story he’s this street-wise orphaned kid who had a really tough life but still went on to be a hero anyways. Obviously those lives are relatable for some people, but those’re definitely not as broadly recognized as common upbringings especially not by DC trying to market to the ‘average’ kid/young teen.
But the creation of Tim changed the game a bit. Dick and Jason were these aspirations a kid could look to like ‘wow I want to be cool like that!’ but Tim was a Robin designed for kids to look at and go ‘wow, his problems and civilian life are just like mine AND he’s a hero, I want to be cool like that!’, ya know? Tim was... just a clever kid with an average life who managed to connect some dots and had enough drive to want to fix things he saw were a problem, he didn’t have the same kind of heightened drama backstory the others did. The Robins that came after Tim definitely didn’t have this idea of relatability in mind the same way either. Unfortunately Steph’s time as Robin was much more of a marketing ploy than an actual like... decision to make her Robin, so it’s hard to really fit her into this conversation. But Damian from the start was first of all initially created not to be Robin but just as the son of Talia and Bruce back in the 80’s, but when he was later reimagined into the character that would become Robin he had the whole ‘raised by and is the heir to the league of assassins and is the son of batman’ thing going on still. He just was not supposed to be relatable that same way, he was a character designed with different things in mind.
I really think it was more just DC’s 90′s era younger-audience comics in general that tried to push that relatability thing (like in YJ how Cissie even after quitting the team stays a major character as a civilian throughout, and the civilian aspect that’s super present in Bart’s 90s solo too, etc), but later in the 2000’s that idea was definitely pushed to the side in favor of... putting in even more dramatic superhero-y stuff.
And the other thing that’s... such a more normal thing but it actually made him unique here, was that Tim’s dad was still alive until like 2004 (so 15 years into Tim being around as a character). This gave Tim a lot more typical ‘family school girlfriends normal life etc’ problems on top of/in contrast with his superhero problems. These just manifested in very different ways than they could with the other Robins because of that unique situation with a living civilian parent who doesn’t know about hero stuff (until he did find out which lead to that whole Unmasked thing, but there was only the brief time around War Games & Identity Crisis where Jack knew Tim was actively Robin and he was... still alive) Tim also had his life at school expanded way more than most other Robins, like, he had such an extended supporting cast of civilian friends which is a really interesting thing to read about (and the fact that he hasn’t had that stuff since the New 52 I think really hurts his character)
And then related to that loss of his dad... Personally another thing about Tim that really interests me is how a lot of things were more... his choice. if that makes sense. A lot of characters in the Batfamily were struck with tragedy/extreme trauma before they became heroes and that’s what spurred them into this life of becoming heroes. Tim’s situation wasn’t like that at all! When he first got involved in everything during Lonely Place of Dying, the only tragedy he’d experienced was watching Dick’s tragedy happen. Which sure yes traumatic obviously, but that’s not the same as how pretty much all the other Bats had gone through these very personal losses or other sorts of very first-hand personal traumas that served as motivators. Tim didn’t start to experience those things until after he got involved in the hero life, and aside from his Mom’s death which was more of just an unrelated incident (that technically happened before he was officially Robin but it was during his time training to become Robin), pretty much all these other tragedies and things... would not have happened or been experienced by him had he not become Robin.
That’s not me placing blame on him or anything like that, because god no that’s not how that works, but it’s very interesting because from his point of view he definitely feels that guilt because he knows him being Robin played a role in a lot of it (Thinking specifically about in Adventure Comics #3 when Kon even says “I know what guilt does to you” to him like it’s... it’s a thing with him!). His dad was murdered because he was Robin. He only met Steph and started dating her through being Robin, and thus he would not have experienced the loss of his girlfriend dying like that had he not been Robin. Tim met both Conner and Bart through being Robin, and would not have had a personal connection to them when they died otherwise. The whole Bruce’s death thing after Final Crisis, like. I could go on honestly, that was only talking about losses not even his own experiences nearly getting killed, but yeah, all these personal tragedies were experienced by him specifically because he chose to bring himself into this life, which I think in turn plays into how throughout his comics you see him go from having this really optimistic view on things and being really hopeful to seeing him at that low point he reaches by the time of Red Robin. (thinking about that one post that points out how Tim started out in the 90′s as an optimist and Steph a cynic and by the time they were Red Robin and Batgirl in 2009 they had switched outlooks...)
I also think that him having had such a great team book with the original Young Justice can help contribute to people liking him. His friendships with the rest of the core four and that team in general are really compelling. (and that’s something like again when looking at the other Robins, while Dick had the Titans ofc, Jason never really found footing with a team outside of like one mission with the Titans and then We All Know How Damian’s Teen Titans Stuff Went. Steph also only ever really worked with a team outside the batfam on very brief occasions) and even though I’m not as big of a fan of the 2003 Teen Titans run that came after YJ, people who read Young Justice and also that could follow and be attached to those same characters over a pretty decently long period of time.
Idk man, I don’t really have an ultimate point here i’m just rambling. I can definitely understand not seeing the appeal to him right away (honestly i’ve been into Batfam since like 2013/2014 and Tim did not become one of my faves until 2020) especially if like... idk when you say ‘into the batfamily’ that can mean a lot of different things. If you’re reading more like the bigger events with the batfam sure Tim can kinda fade into the bg a bit, if you’re more talking about fanon the fanon version of him is prettyyyyy uhhhhh not really the same as how he was in pre New 52 canon, if you’re mainly reading New 52 era Batfam stuff then that Tim I also don’t understand the appeal of bc thats Not My Boy, if you’re interested in a different member primarily and only familiar with Tim when he shows up in things focused on that other character then it’s easy to not really understand the appeal right away bc he’s more there to support that character rather than shine in his own right.
I think it’s also worth mentioning he’s just not everybody’s cup of tea, and that’s totally fine. Like, these are fictional characters and sometimes you just will vibe with a character and sometimes you won’t! idk if this helped at all or even made sense. but yeah. I just think he’s neat ��
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I won't say who for the sake of privacy, but recently I saw a user who had a post on how people that shipped Swagger Bishie (aka Dash/Danny) were "condoning abuse" and "severely downplaying the very real trauma that stems from being bullied as a adolescent for the sake of 'hawt yaoiz'". Any thoughts on the matter?
i mean sure thats a valid take and im not gonna like. say its wrong technically. like yeah alright
but also like..,,, theyre basically middle schoolers. kids are just assholes
IF YOU WANT MY LONG ESSAY: While shipping danny/dash purely in the context of what canon’s given is, no doubt, implying abuse- as their entire relationship hinges on the mutual bullying (dash bullying danny publicly, danny bullying dash as Phantom) of one another- fanon/headcanons way outweigh “canon” for a franchise as old and as interpreted as DP. Many people who ship danny/dash adhere to similar principles:
-That Dash was going to be given (or at least deserved) a redemption arc, as hinted by various behaviors (danny’s reveal in Reality Trip, the back-to-back fight scene in Pirate Radio, just the entire premise of Micro Management)
-that Dash is in an abusive home situation and/or is covering for his homosexuality with toxic masculinity (we never see his parents, the only home life hint we get is that he can throw massive parties with no adult supervision (Attack of the Killer Garage Sale), and the “gay bully” is a stereotype fanon often clings to)
-That Dash only knows how to show affection via “bullying,” ie that he thinks aggression is the best way to show interest in someone (see the “he’s only doing that because he likes you” trope/stereotype)
Obviously these characteristics on their own don’t absolve Dash of any actual abusive behavior. But it’s also important to mention that the assumption of abuse is that players are on unequal footing, and while pre-canon it could be assumed that Danny was at a massive disadvantage, we see firsthand that Danny is just as capable of fighting back as Dash is.
Splitting Images is an episode built around the concept that Danny bullies Dash right back, and while it was poorly written, the point it was making still stands. Danny “abuses” Dash in much more horrific ways than Dash could ever abuse Danny, frequently overshadowing him to undermine his body autonomy and embarrassing him publicly with no way to absolve the situation (I forget the episode title but like, the first time Danny possesses someone (Parental Bonding?) it’s Dash and he without missing a BEAT uses this opportunity to humiliate Dash by telling Paulina he keeps his mom’s toenail clippings or something).
So while yeah, you can say Dash abuses Danny, you can also say that Danny abuses Dash, and that’s just as fucked up. But it also means there’s not an inherently toxic power imbalance; real life abusive relationships are abusive because one party feels as though they can’t fight back, held back by physical power, social norms, empathy, or some combination of the three. Yeah it’s still fucked that they beat the shit out of each other, and they’ve both probably got trauma, but it’s not like Danny’s trauma specifically is being romanticized.
In fact most of the danny/dash shipping I’m aware of (or at least do) is centered around Danny being able *to* fight back, and Dash *earning* his redemption arc, taking these otherwise “incomplete” pieces of canon and fleshing them out.
It’s also really important to note that Dash looks up to Phantom, even if he hates Danny- to the point where his respect for Phantom outweighs his hatred of Danny. Back to Reality Trip, when Danny gets revealed onstage, Dash’s immediate response is to round up the popular kids and come to his aid- he has no second thoughts about Phantom actually being Fenton. This, alongside fanon interpretations of Dash’s actions, suggests that Dash’s “hatred” of Fenton is based on some want to conform to the Alpha Male stereotype-- which, while bad, doesn’t mean he’s intentionally abusive. Fenton is weird, his family is weird, all the cool people hate them, so, to be cool, Dash *has* to hate Fenton. That’s science.
At the end of the day, it’s more than obvious Dash is a victim of toxic masculinity (he genuinely enjoys the romance channel and stuffed animals, for example, but these are played as “jokes” in universe; bitch fartman influence aside, it’s not a leap to conclude that he keeps his softer side “hidden” so he doesn’t come off as less of a man). His bullying of Danny isn’t specifically directed as a form of abuse, and outside of some specific school settings, he has no actual power over Danny. Danny also is more than wiling to fight back, using his own ghostly powers against Dash, putting them at a nemesis-level instead of an abuser-and-abused one.
Listen, I’m gonna be real, almost all of us were “bullied as an adolescent.” Bullying fucken sucks, but like, Dash is clearly meant to be an over-the-top caricature of a bully; no real person acts the way he does, and the audience is meant to (and does!) interpret his actions as a *signifier* of his Bully status more than literal and exact depictions. After all, we don’t see Danny anything other than mad over these things, like they’re mild inconveniences; he’s not actively traumatized or overly introspective about this one asshole in high school.
Not to mention, Dash and Danny are like, fourteen years old. I don’t know about you, but I was like, the worst version of myself when I was fourteen; I was edgy and made awful jokes and made a big show of liking violence. Fourteen year olds just, inherently, suck (no offense to any 14 year olds reading this, I’m sure you’re fine). Dash has more than the opportunity to *grow out of it.*
tl;dr: dash is just a fucking himbo let him live
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Crossmare (Analysis, CrossxNightmare)
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Created on: 1/5/21
i know Crossmare is a really popular ship and i'll probably get killed for this but just remember this is not based off fanon stuff. it's just me looking at the canon facts and speculating based on those.
i actually also ship Crossmare along with Kross, Krossmare, Killercreamare, Errink, Destructive Death, Afterdeath, Dustberry, Horrordust, etc. etc. as a multishipper. I'm just trying to be logical here.
so if you see the analysis going in a direction you don't like, you can just skip to the bottom to see the overall analysis in a more simplified version.
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Crossmare is really popular apparently. I've noticed it a lot on Tumblr and Wattpad.
Unfortunately now I need to crack it's head open.
FluffyNight is apparently canon. I was told this a while ago. FluffyNight (CcinoxNightmare) is canon. So now unless I was told wrong or Joku changes their mind, all Nightmare ships that aren't FluffyNight are out the window.
Alright with that out of the way: It isn't gonna work.
In case no one noticed, Cross is both a memelord and can be an asshat at times as depicted in "Adventures of XChara and Swap!Chara" when he intentionally scares Palette and Goth. He also tricked Goth into giving him all of his chocolate milk before getting his ass beat by Geno. Then when Dream and Nightmare run into him, Nightmare just wants to stick around because "it's funny" after Dream declares he'll try to help get Cross out of a vending machine Geno stuck him in.
Lesson learned: Don't screw with Geno or any of his kids.
So Cross is both an asshole and memey as hell. Nightmare literally doesn't give a fuck and just wishes to feed off negativity.
Aaand they literally don't care about each other.
That was probably their only interaction OUTSIDE of Underverse and fanfic within a sort of canon multiverse. Literally Epicross is more likely since he and Epic are actually best friends.
and then IN Underverse, they were literally using EACH OTHER. Cross used Nightmare to gain access to other worlds to rebuild his own world, and Nightmare used Cross to gain a minion to spread negativity without telling him about the "fine print". They literally tried to manipulate EACH OTHER.
I mean, I guess if they DID decided if they liked each other in some sort of other timeline it COOOOUUUULLLLDDDDD work...? Like, Cross can be an asshole so i guess that causes negativity..?
As for Cross being a memelord, he puts up with 3 idiots already. Does he really need more...?
But the real question is: Can CROSS. Put up with NIGHTMARE?
Can Cross deal with Nightmare just laughing at his misery when he needs help and what not?
But THATS JUST A THEORY-
Anyhow now to speculate on relationship possibilities :3
So even though it's pretty low due to Nightmare already being taken apparently and their large seemingly disinterest in each other, let's just say they somehow managed? Would the relationship actually work or would it sink like a tank?
alright lets look at the facts:
-Nightmare feeds off negativity, therefore creates it by attacking AUs but keeps them alive
-Cross can be a jerk but is good friends with Epic and are meme buddies
-Nightmare is "deceiving, erratic, unpredictable and evil" according to the canon wiki
-"When he was younger, said he was very smug, to which he loudly denies, only to be yelled at."
-"At first, Cross was far more compassionate as the , wanting to believe in even when he tried to kill him. But when Frisk took control of their friends, including Cross' brother , he lost all faith in him, and used all of his power to stop him by killing his former friends, even ruthlessly killing Papyrus and absorbing soul."
-"His greed and recklessness... he had a mental breakdown and became completely delusional over the loss of his own world..."
-"Despite this, he becomes excited and obsessive over tacos and chocolate, and was very friendly towards before he told Cross that he couldn't revive the dead. Afterwards, he acts arrogant towards others and is disgusted by everything around him."
-"He also became very selfish..."
BY THE BY, ALL OF THE QUOTES ARE FROM THE WIKI-
So what we got is:
Nightmare is deceiving. He was very smug even before the apple incident. Cross used to be compassionate, but has lost all faith. So the instant he is back stabbed, he never forgets. He is greedy, selfish, and reckless now after his world is gone. He was still very friendly to Ink though when they first met, and acted arrogant after wards.
So it would seem Cross is very friendly at first, but turns from compassionate and energetic to arrogant and selfish the moment he's betrayed.
And Nightmare tricked him and tried to kill him in Underverse.
But if it was another timeline where Underverse didn't happen, they... Well.
It's possible for them to not hate each other?
I mean- Cross won't hate him if he doesn't betray him. He'll actually be more friendly than hostile. Same can't be said about Nightmare though. He is 'smug' and 'deceiving'. So they'll probably have more of a subject/master relationship. But i have seen a lot of fanfic where Nightmare is attracted to Cross's loyalty and his pride meter gets kicked down a notch?
then there's if they DO get together.
god knows how well the other members of the team would take Cross being the favorite of Nightmare. depending on how well they take it it can go from:
silent treatment to bullying to all sorts of shit.
since Cross is very compassionate and friendly at first, he'll probably try to get to know the others. if they prove to be hostile and unfriendly, it's likely Cross could possibly act hostile to them back and things get chaotic with possibly the three rebelling. Then there's if they are okay with it, what about Ink? Ink and Cross used to be friends, so there's a lot of tension between them.
Ink knew Cross well, so he might try to take advantage of what he knows to hurt Nightmare.
But, could they work if nothing goes wrong?
Yeah, i think they could. Cross is very loyal so he could possibly both keep up the relationship and continue to farm negativity for Nightmare even if the others start to slack off. Especially since he's not as lazy as compared to the others since he was never "trained to be lazy".
Overall: Canonically? OH HELL NO-
In another universe or timeline? Maaayyybbeeee...? It really depends.
#analysis#ship analysis#cross#nightmare#crossmare#nightcross#crightmoss#nightmare x cross#xtale#dreamtale#sans#undertale#undertale au#ship
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oscar is overrated change my mind
*rubs my gay little goblin hands together* ok
first and foremost- i can understand why people feel that way. hes honestly very poorly written at the moment, but unfortunately i tend to get sucked into loving the characters with the least actual love from the writers (weeps about my constant yearning for a lance arc that never got fulfilled (vld was a dumpster fire))
i think the reason i like him so much is because of the potential he has as a character. people like him mostly because hes a #goodboy but i also firmly believe- as many others do- that theres far more to him, or at least there should be
hes an interesting character because he came into the series so late, was saddled with a responsibility completely unique to him because he essentially had no choice in the matter. hes also the youngest member of the cast. all of these traits make him very compelling
combine that with how FUCKING CUTE he is and well, you get people like me
so, let me list of the traits i think most accurately summarize oscar pine, at least what we know of him so far
1. he’s adaptable
yeah, that one seems pretty self-evident. his whole life got completely turned around and he handled it like a champ. hes also adaptable in the sense that hes a fast learner and a quick thinker- he learned how to fight in the span of a few weeks and in a month he was fighting griffons by himself. thats IMPRESSIVE. we also see how hes a good tactician and capable of thinking on his feet in the most recent fight with cordo- he literally turned around the whole fight by figuring out the mech’s weakness. even ruby and jaune, tacticians extraordinaire, didnt figure that out
oh, and by the way, did i mention hes a FOURTEEN YEAR OLD FARMHAND with ABSOLUTELY NO FORMAL HUNSTMAN SCHOOLING? my dude landed a crashing airship! oz mightve guided him but he still DID THAT
hes also the one to keep the most level head in times of crisis (more on where that comes from later). hes pretty similar to oz in that regard- if something goes wrong hes quick to put aside any of his personal feelings on the matter because thats not whats important right now. i think hes the only person not to lash out at anyone at brunswick (aside from blake). even when people are yelling at and being cold towards him, he does what needs to be done and tries to help where he can, because throwing a fit wont help anyone, regardless of whether or not the others seem to be taking the same route. when he goes missing in argus, too, he comes back with the decision to just. do what needs to be done. he might not like the situation theyre in, he might have felt scared or angry or hurt by jaunes (and qrows) words and actions, but he pushes that aside because thats not important right now
which brings me to my next point
2. he’s selfless
first of all, while it wasnt much of one, he still had a bit of a choice whether or not to do this crazy thing and go meet strangers to save the world. a selfish person wouldve done everything within their power to avoid it. of course he was averse to it at first- he thought he was going crazy! but like, at the end of the day, he pushes that aside because thats not important right now
(if youre sensing a pattern its because there is one)
it could be argued that his determination not to let oz fight for him, even in a situation that oscar was absolutely NOT capable of handling, was selfish. i would have to say i disagree with that, because who the hell wants some ghost in their head to take over their body and probably wreck it pulling off crazy cirque de soleil bullshit moves that knock you out for three days straight?
which brings me to another thing
3. he wants to prove himself
thats the big reason he does these crazy things. he knows hes the underdog here, knows he inexperienced and small and people look down on him- and even though hes scared he still has a sense of pride, a sense of duty. he wants to prove that he can do this. he will put everything on the line, even if it terrifies him, because its what needs to be done and he wants to prove that it CAN be done
a big portion of that comes from his admiration of the others, especially ruby (which is very sweet by the way- hes still a bit starstruck by everyone). in the scene where he confronts ruby about how shes “okay with any of this”, that was the validation he needed to go through with things despite his doubts because guess what? the people he idolizes are scared too, but thats not stopping THEM. so it shouldnt stop him either
which brings me to my favorite trait that is often overlooked-
4. hes stubborn
this kid is so headstrong. the very fact that he was able to overpower oz’s control over his body just to tell the others he was hiding something is a testament to that- we didnt even know that was POSSIBLE before! there are times where hes unsure of himself, but as his confidence has grown hes shown just how much conviction he has in the things he truly believes in. he wants to prove himself and nothing will stand in his way. his whole life is being thrown out the window for the sake of some eons-old war? fine, he’ll do everything he can to fight for what he cares about. he makes the decision to put others before himself. he won’t let someone else do it for him, he won’t let the people he looks up to make him run away, and he wont give up. ever
thats the biggest thing- he DOES. NOT. GIVE UP. EVER. unless hes convinced otherwise- which is very hard to do- hes GOING to do what he has to. he wont let himself be disheartened or beaten down because he just doesnt give up. if he ever truly loses a fight you bet its going to be because he was dragged down kicking and screaming the whole way, he was taken by a cheap shot, or because he took a hit for someone else (because he would do that, no hesitation, not for a second)
did i mention hes FUCKING FOURTEEN?
hes fourteen, and hes proven hes willing to
1. give up everything he knows
2. give up his IDENTITY
3. literally DIE
for what he believes in
HE. IS. A. CHILD.
and heres where things get really interesting
because, like, think back to when you were 14. the world is scary, you dont know who you are or what you want to be, and most importantly youre just learning about how your actions affect other people. this stage of your life makes you incredibly volatile because, and this is just child psychology, your worldview has just barely expanded beyond the self. the way you perceive the world is still shadowed by how YOUR actions affect others- other contributing factors dont lend themselves to scrutiny easily
that means you blame yourself
a lot
and now think about this- at this stage in your life, if your identity is stripped away from you, if people treat you like youre no one, directly tell you youre not your own person, take your autonomy, and treat you badly? if they hurt you or accuse you of things?
you start to think they might be right
i dont think oscars apparent acceptance of this situation is because he thinks things are ok. its less acceptance and more resignation
he does what he has to because he doesnt matter
he isnt important right now
and ok, you might think this is diving into fanon, and thats fine! you dont have to agree with me
but the facts are there, and the facts are hes pretty much been told over and over again that he, his feelings, and his identity are of no consequence in the face of what “needs to be done”, and hes resigned to that
and frankly, that reminds me a lot of a certain self-destructive blond (who gets a lot more screentime than i personally care for but thats all one)
“If I die buying them time, then it’s worth it. They’re the ones that matter.”
frankly, the fact that it was jaune himself who cornered oscar like that in chapter 8, and it was the very next chapter where his grief and self-destruction met its resolution, tells me that he may be instrumental in oscars eventual admittance to the same thought process
which would be a cool way to show jaunes growth as well- hed be confronted with a mirror of himself and have to show why he was wrong
i really do hope this is the route the writers take, especially if they decide to echo the very same line but this time from oscar. that would be very cool
ANYWAY this was longer than i thought it would be ;w; hope ive successfully converted you to the oscar love corner!
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regarding Simon in Rebirth
ok I wanted to write a really smart well put together report type thing but I’m gay & mad so yeah, 1st thing to note I stopped reading Green Lanterns because of y’know
but I’ll talk about some basic things now I want to point out this is not an attack on Jessica at all nor is it an attack on the fandom
1st thing again. Simon knows things like @ the justice league & his solo but he’s literally an engineer?????? like he went to college he knows math I literally had to read w my own eyes him saying Cyborg dumbed down math for him & he had to look up answers for stuff??? I’m not saying he’s a genius but he’s at least as smart as John?? he’s at least book smart? or @DC he at least knows math he’s an engineer thats kinda important?
2. I take it back he’s a freaking genius he mAKES FREAKING CARS W WORKING ENGINES OFF THE TOP OF HIS HEAD?? LIKE 1 THOUGHT???? B@TMAN WHO? come on he’s really clever @fandom & DC
3. this is at the writers & part of the fandom but Simon’s literally not a rookie like I’m sorry DC you felt the need to ignore his entire first run but its still canon so??? he was part of ? JLA??? him already a part of a well established super team??? more likely than you think?? also he was part of the freaking giant ass green lantern war I’m sorry but that gets you outa rookie status also! look at some of his trivia for a sec
Baz once used a White Lantern Ring
Simon Baz was previously the liaison for the Red Lantern Corps when they were under the leadership of Guy Gardner
woah?? isn’t that cool?? like he did that?? also he can heal?? w freaking willpower??? thats so badass
also I know this is controversial but Jess beating him in idk GL 5? bad writing & I’m gonna explain Simon was around for all that & Jess was mostly in 1 long story tbh & uhh she actually is a rookie ok & controversial again but if you have to underpower/underwrite your male characters to make your female characters strong? you’re not a good writer & thats kinda what happened. again Simon not a rookie & Jessica is def a rookie & thats fine but its patronizing to fans when you depower him for no good reason.
another issue is the fandoms (or lack of) treatment of Simon y’all have a habit of refusing to look at the flaws w his treatment because then you can’t support Jess (which is utter bullcrap, you can love them both & admit one got the short end of the stick) & just completely go along w the new canon version (might as well be new52 Gr*yson all over again) which doesn’t help his character at all. & I’m gonna say it writers & us love to just use Simon as a cheerleader which would be fine if he had equal treatment but he doesn’t from neither the writers or the fans. I love SimonJess & I love fanon SimonJess but his love for jessica cannot be his main character trait & he has to exist outside of it & y’all really don’t seem to like it.
so to recap 1. Simon’s not an idiot, 2. he’s not a rookie, 3. he’s an actual character outside of Jessica , & 4.! he’s exactly the character everyone on tumblr asked for but y’all treat him exactly how y’all complain how “they” treat “those” characters like y’all aren’t slick you’re doing the same thing to him, he’s literally one of the most interesting,powerful,compelling,complex,intelligent,relevant characters being written rn & he’s treated like canon fodder (get it #pun) by the writers & fandom...he’s an extra in his own solo & when he’s written he’s almost unrecognizable
like we as a fandom need to do better because he deserves it & DC really needs to do better because they know better
also for the last time @Simon’s rebirth stuff
#simon baz#green lantern#green lanterns#dc critical#fandom critical#simonjess#cece babbles#see I wrote it I said I would#jessica cruz
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