#i wouldn't call myself a shipper tho

[here2bbtstrash]

is this a safe space for namkook thots…

always hehe! i don't talk too much about mem x mem on tumblr bc ??? idk i've always felt like people weren't super into it here where x reader reigns supreme. but i read quite a bit of it on other platforms!

so gimme whatcha got 🫶

[this-is-captain-handsome]

I reached the 30 tag limit LMAOO

Hi! I saw on one of your posts you said that you used to be a stucky shipper. I actually started off as a stony shipper but then absolutely fell in love with stucky but I like both . I was just wondering what made you "jump ship" on stucky lol. Sorry if this comes across as annoying or anything im just curious!

Hey! As you can see a couple of people have asked me this over the last couple of weeks and I’m really lazy and haven’t got around to responding yet, but the people deserve an answer so here we go. Before we start a quick disclaimer: I’ll only be talking about the ships themselves, not the communities or any of the discourse surrounding them. This is not a ship-bashing of any kind and please do not take it as such, it’s just my own personal experience surrounding these characters and these relationships. 

 Buckle your seatbelts kids, this is a long one.

I first got into Marvel c. 2015. I’m European so I’d never really watched any marvel movies before that, I watched Age of Ultron on a plane and remember being vaguely aware the Steve/Tony was a thing (what is pretty interesting is that to this day I have no clue where that knowledge came from) but was mostly just excited by the superhero stuff. I then got home and watched The Winter Soldier and fell in love. I love the Winter Soldier, it’s probably still one of my favourite marvel movies (it got kicked out of its top spot by Black Panther last year unfortunately) and to me no other marvel movie could hold a torch to it at the time. So I came onto tumblr, searched up The Winter Soldier and was just inundated with Stucky stuff, as expected. I rolled with it, got invested just from constant exposure (it was also around the height of the Stucky ship) and as far as I was concerned, that was that. I was super into Stucky for almost six months and was pretty much your average shipper, I didn’t understand stevetony, loved Steve Rogers, was close to creating a Stucky sideblog wit some ridiculous pun as my username, I was gone over this ship.

Then one day, I sat down and read the man on the bridge by boopboop on ao3. You’ve almost definitely heard of it, but it was the most popular fic in the Steve/Bucky tag on ao3 at the time (for some reason I had just never got around to reading it until then, it was long and I didn’t have the stamina I have now). It was your pretty standard Stucky fic, Steve gets Bucky back, they have to deal with his trauma which results in Steve and Bucky declaring their long lost love for each other etc. etc. What was different about this fic, was that it was all told from Tony’s point of view, and since Steve and Tony were on the same team at that point, their dynamic was a huge part of the fic. And I found myself falling completely in love with Steve and Tony’s dynamic. I went back to the fic for this post (and god it is a good fic) and pulled up the first couple of chapters and instantly just found so many instances of that dynamic

(grade A stevetony arguing over each other’s safety with a side of flirting from Tony)

(Idk why but the image of Steve and Tony not going to sleep, but rather staying up and brewing coffee together was such a vivid one when I first read this fic, I still remember it to this day. )

(Tony picking Steve flowers while trying to desperately play off that he didn’t aka. Tony caring while trying desperately not to care)

(Everyone knowing that Steve would definitely come to Tony, apart from Tony himself.)

Now obviously, this is a stucky fic and I went into it knowing this, but I found when Steve and Bucky finally got together I felt honestly a bit bored, a bit cheated. I had no idea why at the time. I remember very clearly x-ing out of the fic at the end and feeling really uneasy, I came onto tumblr, went straight back into the Stucky tag and all was well.

When I next went back onto ao3, I started out with a couple of oneshots in the Stucky tag, but for some reason it wasn’t working for me anymore. I remember sitting there, a little bored, not at all invested in this relationship and just missing something. I figured I was probably missing Tony’s presence in the fic and so filtered in Tony Stark’s character tag. I read a few of those and all was well but I realised the same thing was happening as had happened in man on the bridge, the moment that Steve and Bucky got together, the fic lost something for me. Desperate at this point, and a little annoyed at myself I conducted an experiment and went into the Steve/Tony tag on Ao3 and as they say, the rest is history. If you go onto older posts on my main blog there’s a pretty drastic, almost overnight shift c. January 2016. I have to admit, I expected Civil War to be a conversion so I enjoyed stevetony without consequence for five months, while still labelling myself as a Stucky shipper because I expected to be pulled back to Stucky after civil war, the reality was that somehow I came out of civil war shipping stevetony harder than ever before. From there, I spent two years reading my way through the stevetony tag on ao3 and finally set up this blog in 2018, with a really obscure reference as my username and it’s been stevetony til I die ever since.

I just couldn’t read Stucky anymore. That’s what I mean when I say on this blog that stevetony has ruined me for every other ship, because it has. Steve and Tony’s firecracker dynamic pulled me away from what was fast on its way to becoming my favourite ship in 2015, all because they had a bit of banter on the side in a fic. It’s kind of depressing really, the sort of hold that Steve and Tony’s dynamic has over me, 

It’s strange you say you fell in love with Stucky, I fell absolutely out of love with it. I have thought a lot about how I ended up falling into stevetony and why I was so drawn to them instead of Stucky in the first place and I think it all comes down the the story itself. To me, Steve and Bucky’s relationship carries much more weight as a friendship, I still have no doubt that Bucky is one of if not the most important person in Steve’s life, but having that be a lifelong friendship is way more powerful and impactful to me, (especially since what I know I misconstrued to be Steve’s obsession with Bucky is actually Steve’s obsession over the past. I’m not saying Bucky isn’t dear to Steve and he does want to obviously rescue him, but looking back on it there’s more to Steve’s obsession with Bucky than just love, it’s a fear of change and it’s him desperately trying to hold onto a past that’s gone.)

Conversely, I feel like adding a romantic element to Steve and Tony’s relationship enriches the story being told, if you look at something like civil war (either MCU or 616 tbh) in the context of Tony being desperately in love with Steve, it makes a lot more sense, especially with things like The Confession in 616 or the stuff brought up in that strange conversation in the conference room in the MCU. There’s lines from Steve like “I’m home/you gave me a home” or even straight up “he loved you” and his tormented behaviour throughout infinity war and endgame that just really makes you wonder, not to mention lines from others like “you two still gazing into each other’s eyes/sounds like both of you got into bed with the wrong people” and they did have to share a bed at Clint’s farm after all lol. The tragedy of their story is heightened if you look at it through the context of them being absolutely in love with each other, just never having actually got around to telling it to each other’s faces. This tragedy is heavily implied in The Oath/The Confession in 616 when they confess their deepest darkest secrets to the other’s comatose/dead bodies, and apparently it’s always been that they love the other person. Actually you could easily introduce a romantic element by making relatively few changes to the MCU, but that’s a post for another time (I have a long and comprehensive list in my notes app on how little you actually need to change to make that happen, it’s literally the matter of a few lines of dialogue and one major story change at the end of IM3, an interesting thought exercise to say the least).

Finally, there’s a quote that came up on my dash the day I made that fateful venture into the ao3 stevetony tag, “your soulmate isn’t someone who comes peacefully into your life. It is someone who makes you question things, changed your reality, somebody that marks a before and after in your life. It is not the human being everyone idealized, but an ordinary person, who managed to revolutionize your world in a second” to this day, it resonates so strongly with me about stevetony. It’s everything I love about this ship just compressed into a quote. 

So yeah it was basically a bunch of happy coincidences, but thank god it happened. As a writer, stevetony has taught me so much about character and dynamic, stuff that is honestly invaluable. When you have long fics that basically detail the day by day life of Steve and Tony post-civil war in rural Italy and consists of them sleeping, crying and working through their repressed feelings (looking at you @silkspectred ), it is the characters and their unique dynamic that drive the entirety of the story. Steve and Tony, in the hands of a compelling writer, can keep me hooked over a frankly embarrassing number of words. I still have a bit of a special place for Stucky in my heart really, it did start me out in marvel after all and it was one of my first ever ships, but your first love is only so good until you meet your true love, not to get all sappy but stevetony has completely destroyed my ability to ship anything else. I might get a bit flirtatious with some other ships, like sambucky (I still love Bucky, and I love Sam!), or the riverdale ships (beronica and jarchie or bust), or even the game of thrones crack ships (daensa til the day we die), but I’ll always come back to stevetony.

So yeah this escalated into a far longer post than I intended to make but I’ve never really spelled out on this blog how or why I ended up jumping Stucky to Stony when I know it’s usually the other way around. I guess it just comes down to stevetony catching me out when I least expected it, and never having let go of me since. 

[stanlunter]

I can understand many things...but the only thing I will never get is why on earth do people hate selfcest. Like, there is nothing wrong with it, at all. Is it weird? Yeah. Is it harmful ? Absolutely not. That's litterally self love and a character loving another version of themself is a pretty good thing that doesn't hurt anyone. Even if it could be bad in real life somehoe (which it wouldn't even be), it litterally can't exist in real life and can't be problematic and harmful ship dynamic in general, at least bc it doesn't exist in real life, unlike some actually problematic dynamics

It's just an interesting consept and I will never get why do people hate it. Just bc It's unusual, doesn't mean It's bad??

I can't even call myself a selfcest shipper, there like only few ships like that I like and my favourite one is litterally oc. But in theory, It's not a bad thing. Especially for characters with npd it could be a good experience and probably one of the ways to get a healthy relationship with someone (like Sylki or Alastorcest (especially considering that Vivien herself said smth like "Alastor wouldn't date anyone, bc he can't love anyone more than himself")).

As someone with npd (I don't know if it defines anything tho), I do love this idea in general and find the whole "love yourself" and "find someone the same as me" actually good and possibly the best that can be imagined, so these people who for some reason are trying to make it look bad, gross, problematic and etc really annoy me, bc what can be more consensual and healthy than being with yourself, the only person who fully understands you and knows you better than everyone, basically knows everything about you and fits you perfectly? I genuinely don't understand how can people hate it, bc to me it seems like the least problematic ship dynamic exist

Especially in the verse where Undertale was one of the most popular fandoms

[raveneira]

Random but i miss 2020/21/22 when the KawaSara fandom was so active, now i barely see people talking about them or making content. Someone needs to bring back the KawaSara fandom somehow😭.

Ikr? its not much but I am trying to bring the fandom back to life as best I can but Im pretty much a one woman army lol plus a lot of personal life stuff has had me busy which hindered my efforts a bit that Im trying to make up for now, starting with hosting this years KawaSara week since the original organizers didn't do it last year and didn't appear to be going to this year either, so I took over because I knew we had support, fans were telling me how sad they were that it didn't happen last year and was begging for someone to organize it this year, so I took that upon myself to do because I didn't wanna see the week not happen this year either because nobody else stepped up to make it happen.

It sucks how so many got run off by bsa constantly harassing them and making them fearful of even making content for the ship because they knew they would get harassed and didn't wanna deal with it.

Alot of ppl also lost faith in the ship, which is understandable, but stupid IMO because there are ships that have gone through worse than KawaSara and became canon but for some reason ppl treated this like 'oh no, conflict, no way this is happening' and Im just like...danm yall really don't know how shipping works huh? but I mean to each their own but like Vegebul is right there if you wanna see a ship thats been through some REAL shit and look at em now.

It's like todays new age shipping everything has to be smooth sailing, super healthy, super pure, minimal to no conflict, for ppl to ship it and believe it'll be canon when that just isn't how it goes.

Like I even saw a shade tweet one time talkin about 'I actually like my ships vanilla, whats wrong with actually wanting a healthy ship built on mutual respect and positive development without any conflict or drama etc' and Im just like...OK? who tf said you couldn't? but these newbies actually treat shipping like some purity contest and have a weird superiority complex for liking the 'healthier' ships and anyone who doesn't like the 'healthy' ship are weird and horrible and don't care about xyz characters etc

Its so dumb, and childish, if all storytellers followed their logic then we wouldn't have some of the best ships in fiction because only the 'healthy' ones would be canon.

Nobody is saying they cant like healthy ships, but doing so does not make them superior to anyone else nor does it give them the right to dictate what other ppl should ship simply because they disagree and think only healthy ships should be supported, thats what ppl have a problem with. You can argue the opposite side has done the same but there is a big difference in severity between the two, 'healthy' shippers act way more superior and aggressive than 'toxic' shippers [as they call them] are.

But on the bright side KawaSara week has been announced to be happening this year and a surprising amount of ppl liked and retweeted it, so it just goes to show KawaSara fans DO still exist and enjoy the ship, they just went quiet or into hiding because of the harrassment.

And guess what? even tho the event page was specifically tagged KAWASARA don't you know antis 'somehow' found it? not even a day passed since it was posted before multiple antis flocked to the announcement to talk shit, that is a prime example right there why KawaSara fans got so quiet and discouraged from making content and talking about the ship, because THIS is what happens when you dare not fall in line with the BoruSara hivemind cult.

If you dont treat Sarada like Borutos exclusive property whos whole world and character revolves around him, then you don't care about Sarada or her feelings

Their logic not mine, so if you dare pair Sarada with someone other than Boruto who they believe owns her, then you don't care about her. If you don't support the narrative THEY set for her regardless if its been confirmed or stated as a canon fact or not, then you don't care about her because fanon interpretations > canon.

This is why I say this behavior screams insecure, I dunno how you could be the most popular ship with the biggest fandom and the most support, a hug in both the anime and manga, being 'fed good' more than any other ship, yet still be THIS triggered by KawaSara just EXISTING

keep in mind this is the ship they claim is dead, a crackship with zero chance of happening, yet they get so riled up everytime KawaSara is mentioned or so much as have a crumb together they all flock to try and discredit and undermine it, if KawaSara fans just have even a tiny bit of fun and happiness with the ship they come flocking to discourage you and make you feel bad.

That level of obsession with a ship you claim has NO CHANCE and is a non threat because your ship is already canon and set in stone, admit it or not, but their behavior screams that their threatened and arent really confident in their ship themselves which is why they feel the need to try and keep KawaSara down to lift themselves up because its the only way they feel secure, by making US go away, and when we don't, they get mad, because for some odd reason they just cant stand to see another shp besides BoruSara getting attention, love, and support, it drives them MAD.

Which is why you cant convince me their not insecure about their ship, that their not threatened by KawaSara, because to put it into perspective think about it like this, do you see SNS being bothered by SasuHinas existence? no right? know why? cuz their secure in their ship and don't feel threatened by SH, so SH is free to exist openly without SNS harassing them because they don't care, SH is irrelevant and has zero impact on them.

Thats how you would think BoruSara would be given how they boast about themselves, how much they have going for em, their popularity, their support, many moments, you'd think they'd be on cloud 9 not even paying little ol KawaSara and BoruSumi any mind but they do, and for some reason its KawaSara especially that gets under their skin more than anything which is strange tbh since thats the ship thats not even semi canon yet.

Lemme put that into perspective, they are more insecure about a ship thats not even semi canon yet, than BoruMitsu, BoruSumi, KawaAda and BoruAda that are semi canon [since many bsa also ship ksu] let that sink in.

I dunno why they have such a specific hatred towards KawaSara, maybe its because a lot of them hate Kawaki, and because Boruto is the top male prize and Sarada is the top female prize in their eyes, therefore nobody else is good enough for them but each other. And by top prizes, Im talking primarily about eugenics and status.

Read between the lines, what was Sakura? the pretty girl all the guys wanted, what was Sasuke? the cool handsome guy from a prestigious clan all the girls wanted, now what is Sarada? the cool pretty Uchiha princess, what is Boruto? the cool young lord all the girls fall for, their not subtle about it at all.

They discredit Sumire's feelings as insincere so she don't feel like a threat, they diminish and downplay Kawakis bond with team 7 and insist he's not even a part of it, they weirdly were fixated on Kawaki's body being inorganic and therefor concluding he was infertile and therefore couldn't have kids and therefore that'd be the end of the Uchiha clan if she was with him [which is telling of how they perceive her that her primary goal in the relationship would be popping babies, not love] they deny Kawaki as a part of the Uzumaki fam, saying he's unworthy, Naruto should disown him, etc etc, to keep him as the worthless orphan that deserves to die they want him to be.

Again, read between the lines, they dont give a danm about Boruto and Sarada together fr fr, this ship is about eugenics, this ship is about being able to brag about the young lord baggin the Uchiha heiress/Hokage, its about bragging rights, its about having the ship with the 2 biggest prizes, its about OP babies finally fulfilling their long weirdly held desire to see what those clan bloodlines mixed together would create, its about saying you don't want SS 2.0 except when its the ship you want then suddenly its A-ok

Foh man

Sorry I went on a bit of a rant but It really is annoying that KawaSara fans cant just exist in peace and always gotta hear them telling us why we shouldn't ship it, why it has no chance, why BoruSara is so superior and set in stone and we should just accept it yatta yatta yatta instead of just minding their danm business.

Yes I know all fandoms are guilty of this, but none like BoruSara, why? cuz its a far bigger fanbase with more support and they use it to their advantage, doesn't help that a lot of boruto stans support the ship as well as many Sarada fans [mostly Boruto stans tho] they even have SS and NH support too, so you cannot compare it. Their a much larger fandom with way more support that makes it extremely easy for them to bully every other fandom because their much smaller and they know it, everyone knows it, but they get away with it cuz whos gonna stop em? their the biggest and the loudest and therefore are right by default because the smaller fandoms are just 'haters' and 'jealous' 😒 lemme stop here

Bottom line I agree, it was nice back then before Ikemoto changed so much when he took over the writing after Kodachi left, ever since then he has completely butchered Sarada's character beyond recognition, not because she understandably cares and worries about her friend, but because thats ALL she cares and worries about, I don't think anyone has even noticed that Sarada hasn't mentioned Naruto or her mother once since the timeskip started besides that one speech that wasn't about either of them, but just about her defending Boruto, not about any grief over her idol being killed, not remorse for sending her dad away and leaving her mom without her husband, no the one and only time she mentions them is to defend Boruto which is abusmal, she didn't even mention her own dad until Boruto MADE her ask about him.

If thats the ship you want me to support then Im good, I don't want a ship where her only personality trait, motivations, goals, and character as a whole revolves entirely around a man and nothing else, just how to make HIS life better and being there for HIS pain and growth and only lifting HIM up while staying in the background doing nothing and having nothing going on for herself.

I know this may sound like 'but wait that makes it sound like KawaSara wont be canon' no Im not saying that, KawaSara is not off the table even with all that bs Ikemoto has done so far, like I said with Vegebul and just shipping in general, just because things look bad doesn't mean you lost, you haven't lost until somethings made official.

Are BoruSara together? no, are they semi canon? no, have either of them been shown or confirmed to have romantic feelings for each other? no, so nothing is lost yet, even if they were semi canon that still wouldn't be a loss because the other half has to reciprocate, like just cuz Sakura, Ino, and Karin liked Sasuke didn't mean he had to reciprocate any of them, just like even if Sarada liked Boruto doesn't mean he has to reciprocate those feelings or vice versa.

The only time a ship has truely 'lost' is when its actually dead, like one half of it dies for example, or its rival ship gets together, or their relationship is ruined beyond repair, like to the point of no possibility of redemption, only then has a ship truely 'lost' and 'died'

So no, none of this is me saying KawaSara cant still happen, it definitely can, especially with Ikemoto and Kishimoto saying Kawaki would be getting more development soon so there's that, if we get more Kawaki focus there might be some Sarada focus in there too in between. I don't wanna speculate tho but thats just a possibility Im throwing out there.

Regardless, sorry for the rant, but I'm really frustrated by this too because its 2024 now and ppl still cant leave KawaSara tf alone? thats what I meant when I said they take advantage of their size, they know they can silence us, but nobody can silence them, and that pisses me off but what can you do.

But hopefully the announcement of KawaSara week this year will get the fandom active and making content again for fans to enjoy, I will try to contribute something myself, I can understand why a lot of ppl might not wanna bother because of the hate they know they'll receive but I hope they don't let that stop them, it was bad enough KawaSara week wasn't hosted last year and everyone was really bummed about it, I don't want them to be happy seeing it happen this year only to not participate because antis wont let them have fun and enjoy the event in peace 🙏 I really hope the fam stays strong and don't let antis stop them from enjoying THEIR event.

[frozenhi-chews]

Thinking about the fact I have always self shipped and self inserted myself into the stories and worlds of things I have enjoyed. I have pretty much always been a self shipper since I was 3 or 4. And like, why wouldn't you insert yourself into the stories and make friends with the characters you love? I thought everyone did that. I inserted myself into Pokemon, Portal 2, a silly game called Castaway 2 Spore, and a few others even before I was a teen. When I say Wheatley is my oldest F/O, I mean it. I had such a big crush on him when I was nine and its still here AUGH!!

It's kinda hard to not self insert myself into stories? Like, even if I didn't have a crush on anyone, I would still do it. Cuz again, who wouldn't?

I used to have a crush on Ink Sans, and he was my biggest crush for YEARS. (Imagine that, another UT-related character XD) I could probably look around in DMS, but if I had my notebooks of my old self ship art of him, i would share it. In fact, he's the first character i actively drew self ship art with. I was around 13-14 years old, Undertale had come out and the internet was going nuts about it (and sans), and i really liked Ink PFFT. I also was just starting to draw more around this time, and i literally had that "OH I CAN DRAW ANYTHING" moment. And so, without shame, but a LOT of flustering, I had drawn myself with Ink a LOT. Developing stories, even making a fankid at one point (Rip Kenzie, you will be missed). So even tho he isnt on my list anymore and i kinda outgrew him, he's still a comfort in being the first F/O i drew stiff with. Also i was a budding artist, having an artist F/O was amazing!!

Funny how he kinda disappeared, but Springs stayed. Probably to make room for the conman and cowboy pfft

So yeah, thats my self shipping origin story!!

[sashkapi]

What are your OTPs from other shows besides kindall? (especially love/hate ones)

(Forgive me im so slow)

Oh my here u go >:D

Love/hate ones:

Jimmy and Cindy (The adventures of Jimmy Neutron: boy genius)

This one kinda started it all. Their rivalry was funny and I kinda felt bad for Cindy because she is genuinely smart but what is it if your opponent is a genius  Also hey, blonde and bitchy, my type :) Won't say a lot about this one tho because with all my love for them - there's nothing much I can tell you if you watched the show

Manny and Zoe (El tigre: the adventures of Manny Rivera)

Ok, this one is weird because as a kid I just loved Zoe so much (Her Black Cuervo design, like c'mON LOOK SHES PURPLE) but also liked Manny and Frida together Idk, fandom skewed me later to Manny and Frida but hey, hero-boy/villain-girl dynamic is fun too and I still remember fondly how Manny was immediately smitten by her in "Enter the Cuervo" (Apparently Zoe would end up with Django and honestly? That pair is pure aesthetic, good for them good for them) (Also I'm so mad that I watched this show dubbed because I didn't know english at the time like THEY TOOK ALL CHARM. NO ACCENT, NO SPANISH WORDS IN CHARACTERS SPEECH AND SOME NAMES WERE TRANSLATED IN THE LAMEST WAY POSSIBLE)

Helga and Arnold (Hey Arnold) (can you tell I am a nickelodeon kid yet?)

Ok, this one is more of the one sided love/hate on Helga's side but if you watched the show then you know that she went all in with both love and hate.  Seriously, Helga is such an interesting character. She is amazing and I love her (another bitchy blonde to love yay) Can't say much from Arnold's side. He was oblivious to her crush for the most of the show. He is a kind and understanding boy so jgkkdjgkh I just really wanted Helga to be happy 🥺

Anya and Damian (Spy x Family)

New one and also kinda one sided on Damian's side  Listen These two?

Just plain funny

Anya punching him in the face and Damian falling for her for that? Hilarious Anya being oblivious to his crush despite being an esper because Damian is in denial? Amazing. Good stuff.  They are just so cute and funny, look at them!!!

Catra and Adora (She-ra and the princesses of power)

Ok, I wouldn't consider myself a catradora shipper anymore but God, their dynamic in the first seasons is everything. Like darn, they had drama. Actual enemies to lovers and THE TENSION

Aaaaand season 5 destroyed it all. (Spoilers for she ra ahead)

Some people dropped the ship after season 4 finale because Catra would rather destroy the world than let Adora win, but for me it was THE THING I LOVED LIKE YES, MORE DRAMA, MORE CONFLICT, NOW CATRA MUST TRY REAL HARD TO GET ON ADORAS GOOD SIDE AND THAT MEANS CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT, I WONDER HOW IT WILL GO and they just??? Kinda forgive her??? I'm sorry, yes, Catra purring on Adora's lap? Sweet. The kiss was also dramatic. But it all felt so undeserved I guess it's because of the limited time the writers had. But damn, introducing a bigger threat in Hordak Prime and kinda handwaving her crimes isn't a redemption for Catra.  But again. First seasons? Good ass dynamic. 10/10

Knuckles and Rouge (Sonic the hedgehog franchise)

THIS ONE IS  AH NICE If you followed my kbsd art then you probably know that I also love Sonic (lil guy doing cool stuff - my weakness) Wouldn't call knuxouge love/hate ship at this point that much tho. They started as this but now they are more of a flirts-a-lot/flusters-a-lot type of pair. Also, we don't talk about "dumb" arc SEGA was putting Knux in 2010's Anyway funni echidna and funni bat my beloveds

Non love/hate

Sanford and Deimos (Madness Combat)

Ok, so the series is about violence, fighting, and bloodshed, right? And then I saw these two in 0.5 episodes and my brain went "OK, but what if they kiss?" And I spend 2021 rotating these two in my head. Violently. (The way Deimos doesn't attack Sanford in "dedmos adventure" still makes me sad from time to time)

Dr. Fox and Hawkodile (Unikitty!)

I was in a weird place of mind when I was obsessed with this show. Looking back at it - its really silly.  I'm gonna be honest, the biggest reason I loved this ship is because it's a big warrior type of guy having a huge crush on a nerd girl and being really silly about it. After a few episodes with this topic I got kinda tired of it tho. 

Still, they are cute.

I might be forgetting some but honestly, if I was to list every ship I enjoy - we'll be here forever This also kinda made me realize that I haven't seen any proper love\hate pairs in recent media. Might be just me tho.

[gffa]

Your post about Ww/Vash is valid and honestly relatable to me. What makes me (even more) turned away from it is the hypocrisy of the shippers. Sure, yeah, you can always mute & block all that, curate stuffs as to not let fans affect your perception or feelings about something. BUT, it can only do so much, can it, when said fans won’t stop going around & forcing their presence onto other people’s spaces, calling them freaks, and sending death threats to other people. Anyway, yeah, the hypocrisy of said shippers when their ship is not less problematic than the twins ship ruined my enjoyment for it.

(I have to ask, tho. What do you think about Knives/Vash as a ship then?)

As someone who has had The Queer Experience of people who would rather I just be "normal" and not a "freak", having family who would rather I kill myself/be dead than have a queer family member, let me tell you, I don't have any patience for the whole thing of suicide baiting over things that don't affect you and aren't about you. And I think that makes a lot of this extra upsetting when coming to fandom and having people refuse to leave you alone, it hits those buttons for a lot of us and the fighting about this kind of thing makes so many people so tired and it plays on so many people's emotions that a lot of people just want to eschew even getting into it all together. I think too many people in fandom these days over-identify with the fiction they're reading/watching and anything that contradicts that feels like a personal attack, it feels like it must have this tremendous detonation on the real world when someone likes something in fiction that you don't, but it just doesn't actually work that way. A ship in fandom is not in a 1:1 relationship with reality, nothing in fiction is, but what is in a 1:1 relationship with reality is the boundaries you cross when you harass and hurt real people over their ships. And that will always be vastly more important--if you can't handle decent personal boundaries with real people over ships, that is the real problem here. It's fine to be squicked by things, almost everyone has them! And it's fine to talk about trends in fandom, because sometimes things do come from bigger social trends, like there is a lot of racism in fandom that I think it's important to talk about. But sending death threats or doxxing people still ain't the way to handle that, babes. Anyway, as anyone familiar with the series has probably picked up on, yeah, Knives/Vash is my ship of choice in the fandom, there's a very particular vibe between them that just gets me. And it's fine that people might be squicked by that, I'll tag anything to do with them in that light (because I'm also interested in them purely platonically), but it's also fine that I like what I like in my space scifi western show. (So, heads up for anyone reading this, I will always tag with either #plantcest or #plantcest for blacklist if it contains commentary about them, but isn't relevant to the tag/I don't want to put it in the tag for some reason.) Because, man, any series where the entire story is centered on the conflict between them, where no one else really ever matches the intensity either of them have for the other, where one of them is literally doing everything for the other person, where they wouldn't just be willing to burn down the world for that person, they're actively trying to burn it down for the other, that kind of teeth in a dynamic is delicious. I love love love conflict between characters that love each other so desperately, where the conflict is central to who they are, that the other person loves them for being the person they are, even as it drives them apart because they can't accept the things that person is doing, that is MY JAM.

[sizzlingpatrolfox]

hmm i think it also comes with like idk their nature? Like for early years everyone knew jm was the member who used to post for every member just like how now people look for hobi to get other members photos at that time it was jm. And yes i always used to think that if we pull out the jkk pics that was posted by jm literally how many are remained there? Really not much cause he's always the one who posted most. BUT i will also not dismiss the fact that jk was never a social media person back then? He hardly posted with other members too. Infact as far as i remember jm actually is the member who's got most birthday posts from jk like more than any other member. Then they used to post on weverse and jm actually is the only member with whom he posted ig and no one else. Also again there were only two post in his "moments" on weverse one of them was him wishing something for armys and another is his video from last yr to wish jm a birthday. Later he did deleted that post like just few months back which again i think is valid cause i myself go like "what's this even? Like what kind of wat is this to wish someone a birthday" i myself wouldn't have deleted it out of embarassment if i was him.

I know tkkrs celebrate that jk posting that picture with tae but these are the same people who refused to accept that jm was the only member he posted on his weverse so like does that not count? Like why we giving this important to a insta account which he deleted because he got bored of it and literally thought of deleting while brushing his teeth lmao, and weverse he still uses like jm. I don't think we should even give these things more importance even.

And just like how jkkrs always look for jm to post jkk they do the same thing when jm drops something they always go like "now we wait for jk to watch it with us" thing is they do this cause they know this thing will be done by this member and that thing will be done by that specific member. It's just the members' consistency.

The why doesn't change the outcome, tho. In that post I wasn't trying to talk about whys, I was simply stating how things were.

My commentary was more about the hypocrisy and the change of narratives. Nobody has any idea of what they're standing up for anymore, and every single new thing that happens or is said, they have to reacommodate their narratives simply because they're wrong all the damn time. I've said jikookers haven't been right about anything since 2021, and they're still being proven wrong almost every week. They kept saying taekook never went snowboarding, that it was made up, laughed at taekookers for believing in hearsay and now they've been proven wrong.

His video for Jimin's birthday was nothing impressive for me. He looked hot and because of that shippers (who are sexually attracted to Jungkook) over-sexualized it and called it all types of things, but I promise you that was not his intention.

"I don't think we should even give these things more importance even."

But people do give it importance. They think it's important when something that makes them happy happens, and then when they don't like what they see they say "it's not that important, it's just social media."

Jimin posts a photo for Jungkook's birthday and people start writing essays about how he's so he's loud and bold for posting and everyone sees sex and homoeroticism in a birthday photo, but when Jungkook doesn't post it's "not a big deal, he's just that type of person". Just a month ago jikookers were ravishing about the bday photo and how it was shameless, but now because Jimin doesn't post he's "gatekeeping" and "hiding their relationship." They do care.

Just like you, you can't tell me that weverse video was so embarrassing for you, because it means you did give importance, then say people shouldn't care much about social media when things aren't going your way.

It's like when Jimin would post selfies with Jungkook all the time it was love and romance and #gaypride but as soon as Taehyung started doing it, it was fanservice and fake and clout chasing. Even though we knew that taekook were hanging out literally all the time, even the times he didn't post photos.

I don't really care about him reacting and all my posts are there explaining. He sat and watched YouTube the same way you or me do when we want to see Jimin, while he was constantly hanging out with Taehyung and helping him record his songs or whatever. Never met Jimin in person in probably a couple of months. So those things cancel out for me.

It's not really a matter of "he did more for xxxxx than he did for xxxx" because he actually didn't. He was there for both of them, just in different ways.

Which brings me to my next point;

Everyone should ask themselves if it's more valid to see him reacting to YouTube videos like he doesn't even have real life reach to Jimin, or if you would've rather he went to a music show and know that he went -even if you didn't have an hour video of it.

Everyone saw Jimin going to the USA and non-delusional people have been saying for months that they filmed a reality show, but shippers were romanticizing it as a private getaway and now are actually CONFUSED as to why they filmed when they were so sure it was private.

So, yes, people give it meaning and they care. Shippers, especially, are keeping tabs on what's posted online and what's not. I also do it sometimes, not because I think it means a lot -but precisely because I think it doesn't mean a lot. My question "why do you care about Jimin posting taekook when Jungkook posted taekook all the time and you didn't care back then?" goes for those people, not because t's important to me.

Like the way last year there were a few photos of Jimin in football games with several different people everytime, once with Hoseok, and he didn't post pictures about it. None of them did. And nobody thought it was suspicious. There aren't photos of jikook online and shippers think it's because the military is on their ass to see if they're gay or not and send them to jail. Shippers are just delusional and see things were there aren't, and assign meaning to patterns thinking they're unique to two people when they'd literally find the same patterns in other people as well.

[44-windandheartbeat-44]

Hello there!!

You've reached AXYER's SFW "weird stuff" blog. I hope you enjoy your stay!

Here's my SFW vore and SFW tickling account! Obviously, you can block this account should you desire to and wholly dismiss that you ever saw this account, that's totally fine! I wouldn't even judge you!

HOWEVER, I do humbly request you don't post me anywhere or laugh at me with your friends on a voice-call! I know it probably seems really fun, but it really, really hurts! I promise you there's better things to laugh at, I'm not trying to hurt anyone and I'm just doing this for comfort! We can be friends, even if we don't agree on everything, alright?

Now, DNIs are famous for literally not working whatsoever in most cases, but I'm going to try anyway, just so if you're blocked you know why:

-Racist, homophobic, transphobic (including believing there's only two genders/TERFs), radfems, radqueers, "MAP"/"NOMAP", ableist, sanist, sexist, conservative/alt-right/Republican

-Religious extremist (NOT just Christians or Muslims)

-Zionists 🇵🇸

-If you love arguing with people/brag about how you "take no shit" and love hurting people/committing crimes

-Obviously, if you think being "cringy" and being "bad" are the same thing!

-If you think talking shit about people is a likeable personality trait (sorry I hate these people so much)

-Com-shippers, ESPECIALLY if you ship characters with abusive dynamics (I had to resist saying so many mean things but I will refrain, I will refrain…)

-If you're a fan/kin/identify as/with WHATSOEVER anyone/anything from a certain webcomic where a white stick figure with a tie is tormented by a black stick figure with bat wings + red tendrils (I am extremely uncomfortable with anyone who applies to this. DNI. I mean it, please.)

-If you're unable to agree to disagree/accept differing opinions

Otherwise, here's a bit about myself!

Hi!! I'm an aspiring child psychologist from Long Island! I love to write, draw, maladaptive daydream horrifically (/hj) and walk!! A LOT!! I LOVE WALKING!!

I'm also a Heart (C/C/C/C) fictionkin!! Technically also a G/r/i/m/m/c/h/i/l/d and stick figure fictionkin, but those are less important!!

I promise you that I do not bite and unless your ask scares me I will respond as kindly as I possibly can!! And if it does scare me, dw! I probably just won't respond, but feel free to clarify! I LOVE clarification!!

I am ABSOLUTELY willing to make friends!! Let's be little /pos freaks together!! <3333

My taste in vore/tickling depends on the current hyperfixation, but Soul is a pred/ler whilst Heart (me yk yk me) is a prey/lee!! Sometimes I throw in Mid as a switch for both 👀

My preferences in vore are:

-No fluids! Everything is cushiony but dry, saliva actually REALLY icks me out!!

-Food and prey go in different areas!!

-I most like same-size + half-size but I'm A-ok with G/T!! HOWEVER I always prefer the bigger one to be the pred!!

-NO DIGESTION NO DIGESTION WHATSOEVER IT MAKES ME EXTREMELY UNCOMFORTABLE EVEN IF THERE'S REFORMING

-I like only a small belly, enough that the people around them go "hey, have you gained weight recently?" but no more than that!! Less than that's good too!!

-Fearplay is my FAVORITE!! No foodplay tho!!

-I prefer humanoids (not humans) but anthros and taurs work too!!

-I'm uncomfy with children being involved as well as animals but siblings is cool with me simply because I like to imagine it similar to how bickering siblings will do crazy things to piss one another off!!

-Vore used as timeout is EXCELLENT and probably my fav trope!!

Tickling preferences!!

-No tongue!! Again I don't like saliva!!

-I LOVE RASPBERRIES YESSSSSS LKDNDNSJSOJSNSN

-I really like it when they're held down!!

-Mocking YES I LOVE MOCKING

-Cuddling afterwards when they're all sleepy mhm mhm yessssssss

-When the belly and sides are the most ticklish 🙂‍↕️🙂‍↕️🙂‍↕️🙂‍↕️

-Ticking with MORE than two arms YESSSSSS MHM MHM MHM MHM MHM

-Tickling as revenge :)))))))))

Tags!!

#vore moment - Vore stuff!!

#tickle moment - Tickle stuff!!

#*receives food* - Reblog!!

#hearb spelling bee (vore) - Vore fic!!

#hearb spelling bee (tickle) - Tickle fic!!

#fellow freaks slash pos - Friend reblogs + discussion!!

#sad times - Angsty stuff!!

#owa goodness!! - Happy/fluffy stuff!!

#the blues and greens - Fav posts!!

#realising through glazed eyes - ALL TIME fav posts!!

What I censor:

#cw profanity - Post has curse words!!

#cw all caps - Post has all capital letters stuff in it!! (Might forget I apologize!!)

#tw digestion - Post has digestion!! (Would only be used in fictional content)

#tw suicide - Post has suicide!! (Would only be used in fictional content)

#tw suicide attempt - Post has a failed suicide attempt!! (Would only be used in fictional content)

#tw suicidal ideation - Post has thoughts/plans/consideration/reflections of suicide!! (Would only be used in fictional content)

#tw panic attack - Post contains a panic attack! (Would only be used in fictional content) (well, hopefully!)

#tw s/h - Post contains self-harm!! (Would only be used in fictional content) (will also be tagged as #tw self harm + #tw self-harm!!)

#tw homicidal ideation - Post has thoughts/plans/consideration/reflections of homicide/murder! (Would only be used in fictional content)

I think that's all… anyways, have fun here!!

[danikatze]

Shipper Tag Game

Tagged by @tj-dragonblade! I'm not sure if (m)any of these answers will be interesting at all, because apparently I have a bad memory for ships apart from the ones I made fanart of myself, and I haven't read a lot of fanfic for a long long time.. But I've attempted answering these questions anyway!

What ship were you completely obsessed with as a teenager, but now you don’t care about anymore?

I didn't ship much as a teen. I liked the Marauders gang from HP a lot as a kid, tho, likely even in a shippy way. Obviously HP has left a really bad taste my mouth.

Which ship would you consider your first one?

It was probably a HP one, I was properly obsessed with Sirius, James and Remus for a long time, but like I said, I have a hard time telling when I started consciously shipping characters.

Your first fanfic was about which couple?

Hinata and Naruto and it was baaad. I guess it was maaaybe kind of cute, but it was not good.

Do you remember the first couple you saw fan art of?

Not at all. The most likely options are anyone from HP, Death Note, or InuYasha, but it hasn't stuck with me.

Have you ever gotten into ship discourse?

Nah, the closest I've gotten was the time I got put on a blacklist (or two?) for a shipping Yamato and Sai. I didn't care and so didn't address it, until someone sent me a (kind) message about it. I then explained my feelings about the problematic aspect and the (few) responses I got were 100% positive.

Did you used to have a NOTP or have one currently?

There are plenty of ships I don't particularly like, but I wouldn't call them NOTP's. Except maybe the very very popular ones. I only take real issue with ships that become canon, like a fair few Naruto pairs..

Who were the last couple in the last fanfic you read?

Reading has been hard the last couple of years, so I haven't done much of it.. But it has to have been a Dreamling fic - I'm so excited you've been writing again, TJ 💖

Currently, do you have any OTPs?

MatsuMasa, although they're not my otp in the literal sense. I like them both with Yaichi, and Matsu (non-romantically) with Ume - and the fun thing is that it works all at the same time 😎

Is there any couple that, to this day, you are extremely mad about not getting into?

Hmm well I'm kinda mad at not being as into Dreamling as you are, TJ. I like Sandman and Dreamling! Very much looking forward to the second season and I enjoy the things you blog about, but it's never been more than a general appreciation. And that's fine, ofc, but it's always been such a joy to be excited by the same things as you haha

Is there any ship you used to dislike but now you think they’re kind of interesting?

Maybe KakaGai? Only I didn't dislike it, just didn't consider it. And I don't think it's kind of interesting, I deeply love it.

Do you have any ship that, in the past, would have been considered normal but now you would be cancelled over?

I already mentioned YamaSai, but there's also ShisuItachi. Some people say that the latter is incest. It's been too long and I don't remember their specific relationship, but afaik they're not (direct) family, just from the same clan. Can't get too bothered about family trees in fiction.

Kikyo and Kagome from InuYasha is by some considered gross as well, comparable to incest, because Kagome is Kikyo's reincarnation?

Idk, is FjorClay problematic, because Caduceus is canonically aroace? I feel like it's not a super popular ship anyways, but I still like them a lot. In a queer platonic way.

What is your favourite crack ship?

I don't think I have one. Although I wonder if JonGerry from the Magnus Archives could be considered crack ship? They aren't from different fandoms, but they only met once after Gerry had already died. And then at Gerry's request, Jon sort of killed him again. It doesn't really count as a crack ship, but this is my answer anyway

What is the couple you read the most fanfics about?

Hm, I don't know! The last time I really obsessively read them was in my Naruto era.. So who knows - KakaGai is a very plausible answer.

What do most of your ships have in common?

I guess I most commonly like pairings with a Gentle Giant™ (preferably kind of dumb) and someone grumpy and/or cynical and smart and/or skilful. MatsuMasa, BeauYasha and ShikaChou come to mind.

What do you absolutely hate in a ship?

Hard to explain. Wrong vibes lol. Look I can appreciate love-hate or even hate-hate relationships as much as the next shipper, but there needs to be at least some level of respect/consent/two-way-street? I still dislike SasuSaku, because they very much have none of that from what I remember. They've always been close to a NOTP and then they became canon so..

[greenmegsnoham]

✨💕2022 Goals!!💕✨

Thank you @pennygalleon @corvuscrowned and @mystickitten42 for the tag! 😘

✨Reflection✨

Wow. What a year 2021 has been....insane.

I've appreciated being a part of this fandom more than you all could ever know.

I used to live where I could live my HP dreams in Orlando, FL, and although I don't regret moving back up north, I was in desperate need to re-connect with the stories I genuinely thank for the person I became. (but fuck jkr tho)

I started reading fic in September and writing in October of 2020, pushed out nearly 400k, birthed a podcast project with my best friend, and have worked tirelessly to build a community of love and acceptance in fandom that appeared severely lacking.

I've met so many amazing people and the love I feel here is just....ugh. I thank the Drarry community for being my gateway drug to far more content than I could even attempt to consume or create.

We all create and consume for our own reasons, and a huge part for me was to find my bliss in dark times, help myself through my depression and isolation. I've never felt so free and unapologetically me, and that wouldn't have been possible without all the beautiful members of fandom.

Thank you! 💕

✨Okay, yes. Goals.✨

💕No Fests, Except...

Being a part of various fests in this pat year has helped me grow as a writer, exposing myself to content and ships I never would have considered writing/reading and it's been an absolute joy. I'm so proud of everything I made. Especially [redacted] for HD Erised. I poured my entire soul into that work and it brought me just as much joy as exhaustion.

So! As much as I loved everything I made, I also need to acknowledge the stress that deadlines put on me and my personal wellness. Writing is something I am passionate about and my husband has always said "you're one of the few people I know that can make a hobby into a job."

He's right.

Fests = me putting my time and energy into something at the detriment of other wonderful experiences in life I've been missing because I "had to get it done".

IF I do any fests in 2022, it will be SELF-PROMPT and submitted if I have completed something appropriate within the timeframe.

Bottom line: Yes there are a million amazing fests happening all year long. It's so damn wonderful, but I have to know my limits and I need to get back and write for me at my own pace.

BUT! I have every intention of investing in the hp events/fest community regardless with events like @hpshipuary and @hpcestfest because, well. I want to! And, if I don't create anything for them, WHO CARES?! They are there for those who do!!

💕Which leads into...Fandom Advocacy...

Call me Helga Hufflepuff because I want everyone in fandom to feel seen, accepted, and loved and not judged base on what they consume or create.

I've been there for myself and I NEVER want anyone to feel like they don't 'fit' somewhere or that what they enjoy is wrong. You do not exist for someone else's approval. Find YOUR bliss and celebrate it. Don't give anyone the power to take what you love away from you, especially no-names on the internet. Like, bye.

If you want/need a space, @careofmagicalshippers has the space for you, growing into the space we all need and deserve: Join the Magical Shippers discord

💕Writing: for me, including original fiction

I had no idea I could love something as much as I love writing. I've always been a creative, with an Illustration BFA degree, but finding this however late in life has been one of the best things that has happened to me.

I have so many ideas for stories I haven't had the time to pursue (thank you fests 🤣) and WIPs that need love. I'm writing what I love on my terms and when I'm given that opportunity I know I'm at my best.

And as mentioned above, I often make hobbies into a job BUT I could see myself MAKING it a job. I want to keep writing and of course I will continue writing fanfiction. But the idea of becoming a published author for something entirely my own is so magical in itself. So, who knows!!!

💕Continue creating @careofmagicalshippers and @snapechatpodcast - with no end in sight.

What brings me more joy than writing and reading Harry Potter fanfiction and it's characters and ships? TALKING ABOUT HOW MUCH I LOVE IT!

Nathan and I have been having a blast with CoMS and we know you are too and that brings us so much joy. This world needs more love and laughs and we love to provide!

I also love that I can join friends like @snapecentric @danni-the-puff and @willwediejustalittle and others to share our Snapey love amongst ourselves and with others.

It's so much work but it is a labour of love that is worth it.

💕On a personal level...

I need to take better care of myself physically and mentally. There are several things over the years that I've let become lesser priority than they need to be. I need to take the time to recalibrate and find better balance in my life including relationships and health.

I need to be present with my husband and family.

I love the HP fandom and it isn't going anywhere. If I step away from my phone and discord or don't open Google Docs the world isn't going to burst into flames. In fact, by not doing so I create more fires than not. I acknowledge I've had a very selfish year - partly due to my manic depression and severe manic episode - and I need to remember my choices affect others.

Writing and interacting in fandom brings me so much joy, but it's okay for other things to bring me joy. I mean THEY SHOULD.

✨Here's to a Happier and Healthier 2022!✨

And remember...sticks and stones may break our bones, but words are just words. Don't give them more power than they deserve. 💕

Give power to the words that matter. Like how much I love you! 🥰

Pretty sure like everyone under the sun has been tagged already but oh well 🤣 @phenomenalasterisk @samunderthelights @avalonmoonshinesstuff @veelawings @oliverwilde105 @danni-the-puff @francis-sinbin @deaserkan @fuckboyregulus @screamingfae @rhiaflamesong @wheezykat @blue--dreaming @bronwenackeley @ronbinary @fw00shy @erlasart @quicksilvermaid @violetweasley19 @the-sinking-ship @mxmaneater @gnarf @swisstae

[theangryjikooker]

Hi! I'm gonna rant, and I hope you don't mind it. If you do, or think this is gonna cause some sort of shitstorm, do feel free to just delete my ask.

I gotta preface this by saying: I'm what people here call a "Jikook supporter". I think there's a high probability that theirs is a romantic relationship, I read a lot of their gestures as romantic, yadda yadda. So, I would fall 100% in the "supporting" definition. But I gotta say, I kinda dislike this definition because it gives people the idea that they're somehow not actually shipping something, thus having some sort of moral high ground over people who ship without thinking that the couple is actually together. I understand why the distinction is there, don't get me wrong, it's a shortcut to explain the differences in belief, but still.

People who "support" a couple are. Still. Shippers. Because shipping is being emotionally invested in a pair of people (be them fictional or not) and their interactions, and shippers and supporters alike do that. Shippers and supporters watch the same things, get the same amount of "oh that's cute" feelings, it's just their final interpretation of the relationship that differ. And it gets on my nerves when supporters somehow manage to shit on shippers based on some "moral high ground" because... What? Are shippers not gonna respect and support them? Sometimes I think the "I'm a supporter, not a shipper" (which I've seen so many times and just sounds BONKERS to my ears) is just a repackaging of the good old "shipping is gross". People are allowed to like a dynamic and think "uhuh, these two people have chemistry, are a good match, if they ever had a romantic entanglement it would be a cute one" while retaining enough sense to say "I don't think they actually are, tho".

And I'll tell you more: I've been around fandoms long enough to observe the behaviour of people who "Believe" and those who work under the assumption that shipping is something done exclusively "for fun". Unless we're talking about young fans who don't understand nettiquette, it's usually the "Believers" who end up shoving their shipping down the throats of the people they ship, because they think "oh, they will like this thing about them and their s.o.". Now, I'm not saying that this is the behaviour of jikook supporters, nor that I think everyone who thinks a couple is real is gonna do that, but in my experience, it's by far more probable the people who act up are from this side of the argument, so... I don't think supporters have the moral high ground they think they have.

And again, I'm not trying to complain about those who define themselves (even on your blog) "supporters" to make clear where they stand on the argument of whether the two of them are actually a couple, because that's fair!!! Sometimes I do it myself, when I don't want to write an essay over how or why I think jikook are a couple in real life. But sometimes I feel like people forget that whether we're supporters or not, we are first of all shippers. If it was just a passing thought of "oh yeah these two are definitely together behind the scenes" we wouldn't invest time and energy on talking about them.

Okay, rant done. As I said, feel free to delete, I just needed to get this off my chest and your blog felt the right place to do that. Have a nice day 🌺

No, I'm not going to delete this because I love this wholeheartedly. I want to shower you with stars and medals, anon.

Let’s be friends. 💜

But in all seriousness, you've managed to put into words what I can't. I do understand why the shipper vs. supporter distinction exists, but I've never understood why people think one is somehow better than the other.

And frankly, the people who place a lot of importance in that distinction aren't really those I want to know or be chummy with anyway. Many anons have expressed that they appreciate the fact that they can voice their opinions here without being verbally eviscerated when their views aren't in full alignment with the majority, and those are the people I want to support and make feel welcome. But I'm not exclusionary either as long as the narcissism is left at the proverbial front door.

I think the support I receive far outweighs the criticism I do get, so I don't actually think I'm doing anything wrong, even if I have to defend myself ad nauseum. I suspect there's a lot more dissatisfaction among shippers (casual and serious alike) than they're willing to admit.

Disclaimer: I don't think all "supporters" are bad. The ones who've made themselves known to me are very nice and lovely, and I'm sure there are more of them. But from my experience, most of the vitriol I receive do come from "supporters."

[who-is-this-weirdo]

I am not calling anyone disgusting over falling in love with their Childhood friend, shit I am a Charisk (undertale) shipper and I had to explain why that ship wasn't incestuous just to be met with false accusations about myself, I just explained multiple time that I don't like when people overlook adoptive or found family and ship them together because in their own words "WeLL tHeY aReN't ReALLy ReLaTeD tHeY dOn'T sHaRe BLooD cOnNeCtiOnS", which is also something multiple people said to me about my step siblings

For the Tsunami thing, it may be a translation issue cause in french it's implied that she also see them as brothers (as well as the Clay seeing all of them as siblings and Starflight not being her type)

For in-text content, we have them comparing themselves with a Mudwing troop at the end of book 1 and calling Clay their big-wing (I think even past book 1), it's specifically Glory who calls him as such, not himself or Sunny

Kestrel is implied to be a mother figure in book 1 when Peril learns she took care of the dragonnets instead of her amd in book 2 when Blister compares herself with Tsunami in relation to her (Kestrel) death

Most people who ship something to do with the dod ship Sunny and Starflight, even though Sunny outright states that she sees him as a brother, showing they don't give a fuck about what she says, tho it may be more in a incel-ish way then an incestuous way (aka not giving a damn about what the girl character says and prioritising the male character's wants)

For Glory and Tsunami their constant bickering was very reminiscent of what my dynamic with an uncle of mine was (we are only 1 year appart, aren't related by blood, just the son of my grandma's partner) and what I saw friends with siblings do growing up (and now what I see my brothers do too) so I have trouble seeing them as anything else, but I could see why people could ship them (tho the guro art of them making out is unessesary and weird)

I wouldn't give a fuck about a Dod x Dod ship in a Au where they were raised separately or were never chosen for the prophecy for exemple, because that's a different story and the context would be different.

Yall, pls reread the books. Sometimes you say shit that's just drictly contradicted.

The dod weren't raised as siblings. The dragons who raised them literally found the concept of them considering each other family disgusting. They consider each other siblings, but they weren't raised as siblings. Pls stop saying that so confidentially you'rer wrong. It's so annoying.

Yall piss me off, calm the fuck down, just cuz it makes you uncomfy doesn't mean there's a huge moral reason it's bad. The dod consider themselves family, but shipping them is no more incestuous than childhood best friends marrying once they reach adulthood.

Your alowed to be uncomfortable, your not allowed to be a dick and claim anyone who likes a thing is automatically a bad person.

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[thetaekookcloset]

Probably gonna get hate for this and I’m not even 100% convinced myself that they’re actually in a romantic relationship because obviously we don’t really know shit lol, but if it turned out that they’re just best friends and their relationship is and has always been just purely platonic, I’d definitely accuse them of queer baiting… 🙃

I feel like there’s a line that they’ve crossed with each other and their antics for it to be just two friends being cute and performing. They know that there’s a huge fan base and they see what people talk online and they are constantly adding fuel to the fire themselves by being very touchy touchy with each other (way more so than with any other member tho I’m sure other shippers would highly disagree lol), making comments about each other, mentioning private vacations and everything that is taekook. We see antis commenting that they hate being shipped and it makes them uncomfortable and that one Weverse answer by Tae is some sort of a passage from a bible to them, but obviously we’ve never gotten any actual denial from them as far as I know, they haven’t changed their behaviors at all and that answer the antis keep holding on to for dear life can be interpreted in many ways. But obviously they wouldn’t deny anything if everything is only fanservice, because that would be bad for business and in the end, they are part of a multi billion dollar industry. 🙃

Obviously they don’t owe anyone any answers about their personal lives and in a way they’re definitely not responsible for all the shippers, but then again, I feel like on some level they kinda are because their behavior encourages the fans to keep going. 🫠

Well I'm not going to hate on you, anon, and I would hope that no one else will either, but I disagree with you.  In my opinion, it's not up to us or anyone else to determine what is and is not an appropriate level of touchiness between two people who are friends or otherwise.

I've said it before and I stand by it: calling anything any of the members do "baiting" is too much in my opinion.  It's true that they know shippers exist and some things will always be interpreted through that lens by some people, but it's also true that no matter what they do and how frequently they demonstrate their closeness, there will always be people who see them as uncomfortable with each other.  So why wouldn't they just interact in whatever way that comes naturally to them?  Why should they or would they change the way they act within the boundaries already set for them, just based on how some fans will interpret it? Personally, I obviously feel that the way they act makes it seem likely that they're romantically involved, but as I said earlier, they haven't done anything to make that reading overt and unavoidable.

This isn't a "gay for pay" kind of scenario because none of the members have ever gone that far.  There's also the fact that, regardless of whether any of them are involved with each other specifically, any number of them may not be straight and could still be expressing their platonic bonds in ways that read to some people as queer because they are -- ways that come naturally to them, are genuine, are platonic, and are queer, because queer people have friends and those friendships don't always look the same as friendships between straight people.

As far as getting a denial from them goes, it seems to be policy not to address intra-group relationships (aka shipping) at all. It's not like there have been denials for Sope or Namjin either. I imagine there are a number of reasons for this, first and foremost being that shipping is good for business, and I imagine this would be the policy whether any of these relationships was actually real or not. This is a big part of why I personally have never taken Taehyung's Weverse comment as being against shipping.

I understand your feelings about them potentially baiting the ship specifically, and we really don't know enough for me to tell you there's no way that's the case -- maybe it is for all I know.  For me, though, I'd rather assume better of people until I know otherwise, for one thing.  More than that, whether or not Tae and JK are together, I feel pretty confident in my guess that neither of them are straight, so I personally would feel a lot less comfortable accusing either of them of any kind of baiting, even if it did turn out that they were never involved with each other in particular.

Besides all of that, a lot of their most telling moments have always been the ones just barely caught on camera, or not shown at all and we just hear about them later.  How can I consider it baiting for them to act close on cam if we know that they act close off cam too?  Not to mention the subtlety of a lot (not all, of course) of what they do.  It's hard to consider the subtle stuff baiting, and I feel like there's a lot more of that over the years.  Add to all of that the fact that if they're not literally onstage at the time, there's no real, direct benefit to any of this.  They're just as likely to gather criticism as they are praise, which makes it seem that much more likely to me that whatever interactions they have, at least off stage, they have primarily for their own benefit.

Of course, these are all my opinions.  You're entitled to yours and to your feelings.  I'm not trying to tell you that you can't feel the way you do, only to explain why I personally wouldn't feel that way.  Either way, we're talking about a hypothetical future scenario where we not only find out their relationship status, but also know the details of what it's always been, and it seems unlikely that that will ever happen.

[eldragon-x]

dusknoir and raine for the character meme?

@smilepebble

Raine

Fav thing about them

They're such a character of duality and I love it. I've said it before but the way they're shown to have stagefright and be easily embarrased or blushy, especially around their love interest, right from their debut episode makes it easy to underestimate them, this goes both for other characters and the audience. The same episode also shows they're very much capable, but still. I admit I have underestimated them as well, but fans characterizing them as just awkward always felt off to me. They ARE awkward, but you need to remember that they're a poweful witch who spent years of their life carefully working towards overthrowing an Emperor after realizing how corrupt the system is by becoming one of his closest allies. Heck, from the first episode they show up in, it's shown that they're ready to give up their life for their cause if neccesary. Again, I've said it before, but you need to understand that Raine is both incredibly awkward but also incredibly smart and skilled to get them.

Least fav thing about them

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Fav line

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brotp

I headcanon that they and Darius used to be friends in school which is a little funny considering Darius was first portrayed as an antagonist but now works with Raine to take down Belos and probably had his own rebellion going on all along, Raine just wasn't aware of it. Like imagine you're besties with someone at your school and when you grow up they become a government figure and so do you but you do it because the ruler of your country invented a system that restricts people and they have some secret fucked up plan they're working towards to and you wanna stop that so one day you and your old bestie almost kill each other because your old bestie was sent to arrest you for treason and you try to kill them and sacrifice yourself for it because loosing people in your position will ruin the rulers plans but turns out your old bestie was just staging a fight and not actually trying to kill you and you're both on the same side. This is the Raine experience.

On the other hand it's rather tragic because that means the first time Raine and Darius actually have a mutual understanding again in forever is when the whole situation is getting really bad and they can't focus on personal stuff.

otp

Raeda. Again, I wouldn't call myself a shipper, but they're exes who still have a thing for each other and it seems like the show's aiming towards getting them back together. Tho I still think it'd be interesting if they just end up as friends after having such a long ongoing fall-out.

notp

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random hc

They're like a mentor to the other BATTs. Talking about, I hope they return soon because they've just been in prison since Raine's debut. Which, okay, Raine had to be less suspicious since then, but someone get them out of there so they can beat Belos' ass together.

unpopular opinion

Idk lol

song I associate with them

"Never Love an Anchor" by The Crane Wives because of this animatic

fav picture

I'm already limiting myself with three pictures, I just really love them also that last one is pretty

Dusknoir

Fav thing about them

I'm just a sucker for very sympathetic villains who you'd want to see redeem themselves plus he's one of the best developed characters in the whole pmd series.

Least fav thing about them

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Fav line

His whole dialouge during That Scene.

brotp

He and Munna are besties. Chunsoft Spike told me so.

otp

FutureTrioShipping

notp

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random hc

World's most repressed nonbinary Pokemon.

unpopular opinion

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song I associate with them

There's a handful but like. "Passing Through (Can't the Future Just Wait)" by Kaden MacKay....

fav picture

my default choice when changing my icon to him

[jazzy-dreamer]

Its MY comfort character and I get to decide what I do with it-

Anyway

This isn't intended to be selfshipping. Not like I have anything against that tho! I say this as a self shipper XD

This AU is basically just a pile of my headcanons, theories and stuff for Invader Zim but with me in it.

I'm bad at math so to save time with calculations and stuff I'm just ganna go ahead and say irkens age similarly to humans in this AU. And also because I and a large majority of the fandom view Zim as a child. BUT I'M NOT GANNA GET INTO THAT RIGHT NOW-

I wouldn't call this a vent AU just a more or less self relief AU. As ya may know from my stimmy Dib drawing I haven't been feeling that great about myself recently and I just really like the idea of hanging out with a fellow weird autistic alien!

I don't really have that much new art to post and I dunno posting this might make peeps feel a little bit better about their weirdness too! Also before y'all @ me Zim will probably come off as a little out of character in this AU but that's not entirely intentional-

In this AU some things are canon to the original universe and some aren't. Its basically just all my own interpretation. WELL IF THATS THAT-

I had my leavers assembly today! : D

I still cant believe I'm going to college soon woah I'm old

This isn't really related to anything just thought I'd mention it for some reason AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Invader Zim (c) Jhonen Vasquez

An AU where me and Zim are Friends (AAWMAZAF) belongs to me WOOOOOOOO