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alastorssimpforever · 6 months ago

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Part 1: My Take on Hazbin Hotel Ships

I am a multishipper at heart.

A very long post btw

Spoilers for Hazbin Hotel Season One!

HOWEVER NO SPOILERS FOR SEASON 2 IN HERE AT ALL!

Chaggie:

They supported each other through the roughest of times and while they doubted each other, they got through it together. Vaggie never fails to show how much she loves Charlie in each episode and she's Charlie's rock. Charlie loves Vaggie dearly and even when she was revealed to be an angel, her love won out for her. Relationships are hard and secrets like that, even rougher but they've grown stronger together.

Vaggie is always tough on everyone else but always treats Charlie with a gentleness that shows her tender side. The two will never hesitate to fight for their loves one, especially when the other is in danger.

It's a perfect trope of Forbidden Love and honestly, just a sweet sapphic ship.

Huskerdust:

Two broken people who find the good in each other. They're duet in Loser Baby bonds them together. And right off the bat, Angel Dust starts flirting with him and Husk starts rolling his eyes. But despite all this, Angel Dust being high energy and sexual...Husk perfectly pairs him with his nonchalant attitude.

They're banter is seeming less. Husk can see right through Angel Dust's facade and he can see the person behind the big old porn star persona.

They're a perfect trope for opposite attracts and somewhat sunny x grumpy.

CherriSnake:

Pentious was always an adorable stuttering mess in front of Cherri Bomb and honestly this one-sided love was endearing. And hilarious. Cherri Bomb is the super hot girl next to the awkward nerd. It's a cute pairing. Even Cherri Bomb admitted after the kiss that it was hot.

it's personally not my cup of tea but I'm sure its delightful for other people!

Charlastor:

Right in the pilot, we see this charming pair have a dance and a duet together. The two also have a lot of similarities in that they both have matching outfit and love to sing and dance. Alastor always appears to be intimate and gentle towards Charlie, even encouraging her in her singing.

And come on, in the pilot, he called her a demon belle. And in Episode 8 of Season 1...you gotta admit that was a treat for Charlastor shippers. Kicking his feet on her bed and getting close to her.

The appeal for me is that the two have very different views of the world with Charlie being more optimistic contrasted with Alastor's cynicism. In a platonic match, Alastor could help Charlie become more assertive and Charlie help Alastor become more kinder or at least, less murderous.

Cherrimoth:

Did they interact for like two seconds in canon? Yes. Do I care? No. Their outfits do have eerily similar qualities, the two sport X's on their outfits as well and both have a singular eye. And honestly, the pink and purple complexations look great together!

Now in personality, they would drive each other crazy in a good way. Cherri Bomb would help Vaggie grow in being less conservative while Vaggie would help Cherri Bomb be less chaotic. The two could really help each other grow better as people.

I personally think it's a cute pairing with flecks of a 80s rock star romance for some reason. I can already hear Vaggie calling Cherri a "diabolita" in an adoring way.

Radiodust:

Angel Dust is the only one that can make Alastor truly flustered. The dynamic is also hilarious. The idea that the efficient porn star can pull off the crazy murderer is cute and yes, comedical in a good way. Also the conservatively dressed Radio Star compared with Angel's Dust lack of humbleness makes the odd couple very interesting.

Two very opposing world views crashing together and choosing to be together is fascinating. Also those two would kill at a ballroom dance. The ship has so much potential for some unhingeness.

Also radiodust is such a pretty ship name!

Guitarspear:

Two smug asshole in love? I LOVE IT! And yes, it's sad but also bittersweet that Lute was the only one that mourned Adam's death. The two are ride or die for each other. And while Adam is still a huge jackass, he still does respect Lute's opinion.

They're banter is seeming less. She always plays off his jokes. Whenever the two are together, they seem to steal the stage. They're humor matches. Do they help each other grow? No. Do they still encourage each other? Sure.

And the nickname "Dangertits" while its a little insane, is kind of cute. They're relationship is unique. A bromance you could say.

Staticmoth:

Another assholes in love pair. These two are no good for each other and I'm sure only encourage each other. They're terrible people but they're terrible together. A fire evil power couple if I've ever seen one.

Vox is the only one that can calm down Val. And you know, Val is a crazy son of a bitch and Vox is the only one that can handle him. They both have a flair for drama and killed it with their dancing in that one scene. And the two of them both have it out for two of the guests at the hotel.

They're both crazy and they can be crazy with each other. Also both of them have a damaged part of their bodies. Val with his antenna and Vox with his...antenna too??? They must have been through something together.

Radiostatic:

They hate each other. Guys, the chemistry is already there. Buckle up for some toxic and doomed yaoi. We got a down bad Vox who will not admit his feelings and Alastor, who continuously taunts him. And they had a history where they were friends (or maybe more)??? Hell yeah! sign me up! The angst and drama is doing its job!

It's a perfect Lovers to Enemies (to Lovers?) trope. They're relationship is tumultuous and they want to kill each other. It's perfect! Say less! And they both match each other and rival each other through their different entertainment medias? Yas!

And "Stayed Gone" was an amazing duet! It's the song that absolutely sold me on Hazbin Hotel.

Radiohusk:

I am all for Alastor's spontaneity compared to Husk's gruffness. These two are dapper gentlemen with similar outfits. And hell, they both have been overlords. One didn't turn out to be so lucky. Also Alastor annoys the hell out of Husk which can have some appeal. And I also wonder how that card game went between them? Speaking of which...

I do want to be positive about this ship but the one thing I have against it is that Alastor owns Husk's soul. That's the one thing. But I'm sure some people are into that.

RadioApple:

Old man toxic yaoi. What's not to like? Enemies to lovers fits this pairing well. Right off the bat, they despised each other. They drive each other crazy. They were both competing for Charlie's attention. And does Alastor see Charlie as a daughter probably not?

The best part? He was only doing it to tick Lucifer off. The pettiness of it all was absolutely wonderful!

And "Hell's Greatest Dad"? One of the best songs on the track list. It was an upbeat, mind blowing duet that swept me off my feet. In all honesty, it was an endearing argumentative encounter over Charlie which makes it so appealing.

And yes, who doesn't want a splash of Enemies to Lovers? It's intense and it's a whirlwind of emotions. And between the two most dramatic and over the top characters in the show? SAY LESS!

Lucilith:

It's honestly an adorable couple. The first two people driven to sin? Willingly to deny Heaven and Earth just for the sake of their love? Two people driven to change the world for the better? These two stayed true to themselves and raised an adoring daughter.

If Lucifer and Lilith ever cross paths again, I do hope they can solve whatever happen. I just got to say I love the tragedy of it all. Falling together into the abyss of sin they had created, the first two dreamers of a new world.

I just know those two are attracted to each other as fuck. It goes beyond anything. Even though, they may have grown apart it's clear that Lucifer may still have feelings for Lilith (he still has his wedding ring). Hell, he was devasted when she left.

I hope we get a second chance romance with those two. It would be sweet for Charlie to have her parents get back together.

Radiorose:

An old timey platonic romance? AAAAAAAAAH! And they both have immaculate style and wonderful dancing skills. It's a perfect couple from the 1920s with a vibe of Mary Poppins and Jack. I find them to be very charming and cute together.

In this gif the also almost, just barely kiss! EEEEE! I can totally see these two gossiping over some tea and flavored pinkies. I love the domestic, comfortable feel to this relationship. While, it may not be a whirlwind romance, it's adorable. They dance, the sing, and they laugh together. Hell, Rosie is the only one that truly seems to evoke a true smile from Alastor.

Alzy:

Mimzy got a bad rap due to interrupting "Dad Beats Dad". And if they may not ever get together again, I like the idea of them formerly dating in life. Alastor also seems to very fond of Mimzy and they both seem to go way back.

Also fun fact: Mimzy and Alastor were supposed to be dating in the show but in the end, it didn't happen. Also the idea of a Radio Star and a Southern Belle is very endearing to me. They grew up in the same city I suppose and they've been through a lot together. It's cute. Alastor is also very gentle and kind with her. Although, I'm not a fan of Mimzy playing the damsel in distress and have Alastor deal with her problems.

Another note is that it refreshing to see a woman in this show with more variation in her proportions.

Zestmilla:

I love their dynamic. They both defend each other. And you cannot tell me that Zestial acts like a father figure to Carmilla Carmine's two kids. It's adorable. And I'm all for a power couple!

I wish I could say more but we got so little of them that I really can't. Maybe we'll see more of them in further seasons!

Adamsapple:

Lucifer accidentally saying he was going to FUCK Adam was the best thing ever. And Adam shoving Lucifer into a wall a second later? EEE! Yes, it a crack ship? Yeah, kinda. Do I care? Also the history between these two is priceless. Yes, has Lucifer stolen all of Adam's wives? Yes.

But whose heart has he not stolen yet? ADAM! All the fics I've read about them either have these two in Eden or when Adam reincarnates as a sinner. Are they crazy and wonderful? YES! I LOVE IT I LOVE IT I LOVE IT! I'm all for the unhingeness of the relationship.

And the angst? God, don't get me started on the angst! It's delicious.

Angelicradio:

A good old Enemies to Lovers pair! I love it! It's definitely not that popular but I'm all for it. Also their fight was lit. I do have to explore more about this duo but I'm afraid there's very little of it out there.

FallenWings (Lute x Vaggie):

Hell yeah, toxic and doomed yuri. They've got history, they hate each other. And Lute may be a lesbian/woman lover in denial. If Lute ever had a relationship with Vaggie, Hell, she still has a lot of religious guilt packages to unpack.

The thing that really draws me to this pair is yes, it's toxic. But the angst, the drama, and the betrayal. The forbidden love must have been insane.

The idea of them being exes is probable and spicy. But honestly the trope of Friends to Lovers to Enemies is not used enough. AND I'M HERE FOR IT!

RoyalHalo (Charlie x Emily):

Emily and Charlie got along so well right off the bat! I mean they matched each other's extorted festiveness and they even have similar personalities. The hand touching on Emily's hand got my attention.

They're pretty cute together. And they're outfits look amazing together! They're a pretty fluffy couple that probably wouldn't have many issues. Although Vaggie was explicitly glaring at Emily when Charlie and Emily were holding hands, possibly alluding to a future love triangle. Big maybe though!

And these two teamed up together going against Heaven! AAAAHHH! They're duet was amazing!

Guitarprincess:

Alright, here goes a controversial ship. Is it the ultimate form of toxic? Yes. Is it the best kind of crack? Yes. Is he a big asshole and she's the sweetest thing ever, yeah? Did he try to destroy her Hotel and kill her? Yeah.

The fact that he kept calling her babe was cute. Yes, was it meant to be condescending. Yepppp. But still interesting.

I DON'T KNOW I'M OBSESSED WITH ENEMIES TO LOVERS! IT'S AMAZING! And ngl, they give a Hades and Persephone kinda vibe (the good kind). And to add on, the fics I have read about them were AMAZING!

Baxty:

Nope, Baxterhas not appeared in Hazbin yet but I love him already! He's gonna be that moody scientist and Niffty is gonna annoy the Hell out of him. I just hope the dynamic is that he is the only one that puts up with Niffty.

We also need more short Kings out here apart from Lucifer. AAAAH! I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO BE SO CUTE! And Baxter is going to be her (cute) bad boy.

Roo x Charlie:

I'm here to spread some Roo x Charlie propaganda! I'm sure I'm like the only one that ships it but HEAR ME OUT! Toxic yuri at its finest. Roo is the Root of All Evil while she represents all the sins, the Sin of Lust is what drives Roo towards Charlie. Roo becomes obsessed with corrupting Charlie's almost incorruptible persona. And would it be fire to see Roo tempt Charlie to the dark side a little bit, let that devil in Charlie come out just a tad?

The angst would be absolutely amazing. And my idea is that Vaggie is the only one that can see through Roo's lies and she knows she's bad for Charlie. Vaggie knows Alastor is no good, but my, Roo is double the danger.

Also do I want to see an epic hero x villain thing? Yes. And TWO BEAUTIFUL WOMEN? HELL YEAH!

Striker x Alastor:

Two badass asexuals together? WHEW! And they're both delightfully terrifying? LETS GOOO! Another fire, power couple.

GuitarMaid:

Yet another wonderful crack ship! Another instance of Niffty scaring the shit out of someone. And honestly, if Adam came back as a sinner it would be interesting to see the pair reconcile. Adam would surely HATE Niffty at first.

But maybe, just maybe something more and weird may bloom.

Lovebug:

I think this ship is hilarious. And even Niffty, is the only that can freak Valentino out or should I say overdo his freak. It would honestly be kind of satisfying to see Valentino be terrorized by Niffty.

It's a beautiful crack couple.

Chaggistor:

Why fight over Chaggie and Charlastor when you can just combine them? And there would always be that spice of tension between Alastor and Vaggie that keeps the poly fresh. And honestly, it would be great! All the people invovled in the hotel in a polycule! AMAZING!

Chaggily:

It's a wholesome poly ship. And honestly they'd be a killer throuple. Absolutely unstoppable.

Maybe I'll do a part 2. Shoot me an ask if you want me to add a ship I didn't add here in a part 2!

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linkedin-offficial · 2 years ago

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is this anything . sky:cotl au

details (aka my rambling) under the cut

mostly set upon the whole idea that caine came from eden and tries to help everyone gain their wings (albeit doing a terrible job the entire time)

bubble keeps the name bubble!

they r a mantatee :3 suprisingly chaotic for a light creature and sort of has the "eat light and puff out candles" personality that caine should have but doesn't

i contemplated caine being called "the creature" just for shits and giggles (and eventually went with it) since im absolutely certain everyone who ever meets him ever would be terrified for a little bit until they realize hes sentient; he doesn't understand that the name is supposed to be sort of derogatory

caine is the only one with wings because hes the only one who can canonically fly/float!

(and yes his head is supposed to be a dark plant . i like to think im big brain for this)

the reason why his dark plant head is tinted red btw . my thought process was basically "ah yes. red = good bcus eden :]" even though thats convoluted since everyone hates eden but that makes it better in a way. i think

zooble > mismatched worksmith

"bows" given to them by ragatha as an identifier; not like theyd need one though ..

constantly making their own prosthetics due to growing boredom with their previous ones (autism™) and also carved the designs into their mask themself

kinger > reluctant royalty

same old kinger as usual .. when asked what he rules he doesnt particularly remember nor have an answer so hes usually treated with respect out of pity for being old and senile

second tallest behind jax , also the oldest (if you dont count caine i guess? whos sort of. ageless)

ragatha > plush friendfinder

matching bow with jax :3 sibling moment! (yes i like the ragatha + jax sibling dynamic . its amazing to me)

right eye does not glow and actually looks like a hollow hole if you get close enough to her face! also clothing making buddies with zooble :] she taught them how to sew without pricking themself

gangle > wrapped up theatre-goer (i had such a hard time thinking of a name .. and to be honest?? im not solid on this but WHAGEVER.)

shortest. obviously

likes to write plays in her spare time and reads them to zooble while they work

clothes are sectioned and Very flowy, and has a few (cracked and broken) masks she likes to use for play improv (and also uses for herself sometimes if she has a hard time expressing a certain emotion)

jax > towering tease (it sounds stupid but THIS is so fucking funny.i cannot resist this)

tallest OBVIOUSLY. like stupidly tall . has its advantages and disadvantages (like being able to steal things from gangle with no consequences . on the other hand. doorframes)

him being tall and having that be the only thing hes got going for him is absolutely hilarious to me and im leaning into that hard

he has a tail also, but its small and not visible from the chart

pomni > jittery jester (i had to look up "other words for anxious" for this.my intelligence is showing)

pretty much the only one i referenced real in game clothing for, which sort of fits! protag moment

this was all i really had, since other established things like their personalities and relationships arent really changed much. but this was fun to think about :3 input is appreciated !

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socra-time · 21 days ago

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Speaking of ships, if you're comfortable, which one's DO you ship? Or maybe just characters you like seeing together in general? I assume one of them is Kakashi and Gai, which is PEAK btw! Have any others you love? (Feel free to ignore if you don't want to get into it I'm just curious ☺️)

Ooooh ok so I feel like I haven’t seen quite enough of the show to really appreciate different character dynamics yet, but I’ve seen quite a lot of cute fanart floating around, which has definitely influenced my shipping opinions. So here are my thoughts so far, separated into three categories:

1. Ships I ship:

-Kakashi and Gai: I love this ship! I think their dynamic is hilarious, I love all the fanart I’ve seen of them, and the fact that they stick together after the end of the show makes me soft.

-Ino and Sakura: I genuinely am far more interested in Sakura’s dynamic with Ino than her dynamic with Sasuke. I think the reason this ship interests me is because it’s kinda messy- in my head, Ino realizes she likes Sakura first and is deeply in denial about it while kinda pining from afar, and it takes Sakura quite a bit longer to realize her own feelings (there’s a lot of denial that they also like girls on both sides). Their ship also has a kinda “friends to enemies to friends to lovers�� trajectory, which is cool.

-Izumo and Kotetsu lmao.

2. Ships that I don’t really ship personally, but I do enjoy seeing cute fanart/posts about them and I definitely see the vision. I could see myself changing my mind about these in the the future:

-Choji and Ino: this is honestly based on some really cute fanart I’ve seen rather than their in-show dynamic so far, but I find it wholesome.

-Kiba and Hinata: I love a good “opposites attract” ship. I was also surprised how much Kiba is shown to care for Hinata in OG Naruto, but the thing that’s keeping me from actually shipping them is the fact that I like them more as friends.

-Gaara and Lee: I really want to like this ship more than I do (maybe my mind will change?) because I definitely see the vision, but it just hasn’t really clicked in my head. Again, I do love a good “opposites attract” ship

3. I’ll also throw in some takes on ships I DON’T personally like (but no hate to anyone who ships them, they’re definitely still valid)

-Kakashi and Iruka: I just don’t really understand why people ship them (feel free to explain it to me if you do!) for anything other than the fact that they both are mentor/parental/older brother figures for Naruto.

-Sasuke and Naruto: okay, hear me out with this one. I DO somewhat ship this… except only as far as them having one-sided feelings for each other at different points in time. In my mind, this ship is kinda a doomed one, which also makes it interesting, but I don’t ship it the way I ship other pairings.

-Sasuke and Sakura: I just don’t think their dynamic is interesting at all. Also genin Sakura’s fawning over Sasuke is kinda painful.

-Sakura and Naruto: I personally think Sakura sees Naruto as a brother and wouldn’t entertain a romantic relationship with him.

-Naruto and Hinata: I know this is endgame but what I’ve seen of them so far is way too one-sided/imbalanced. Hinata’s crush on Naruto feels far more like hero-worship, and though it is nice to see him inspiring her, I don’t like the idea of them actually getting together. From what I’ve heard Kishimoto also just REALLY dropped the ball on developing their relationship so… common Kishimoto L?

#naruto #socra replies #this turned really ramble-y lol

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atiny-for-life · 3 months ago

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A general rant about shipping and all that stuff...

I was asked by @thirstkanaphan for my take on this post so I've gathered my thoughts and realized I actually have a lot to say about the topic, broadly speaking and beyond the scope of what was mentioned there.

Before I begin, I'll preface this by saying I think about all of this extremely differently than what's talked about in the post. I personally also don't feel comfortable applying fictional shipping dynamics onto real people, but I also don't view it as harmful as long as it maintains restricted to fandom spaces and doesn't get pushed out to the ones it's about, so I hope we can all be cool about this!

Also, I'm 29 now and I've seen the way shipping culture has impacted real people's friendships and such, so I'll abstain from interpreting into any of their dynamics - I'll just go based on what I see and what they've said.

#1 - The Current Drama (apparently. I was previously unaware of this.)

Regarding the whole WooSanSang shipper-drama, all I can think is... this is just history repeating itself. We had the same stuff going on in the BTS fandom when certain Taekook shippers started piling onto Jimin for no reason. And what did that accomplish? Nothing. Precisely. It just made everyone, especially Tae and Jungkook, uncomfortable.

Back then, Tae even specifically called those shippers out and yet they still wouldn't stop:

So please, guys, let's not follow in those footsteps. Be better than this!

#2 - The Main Topic: Ateez vs Fanservice and Group Chemistry™

I definitely won't sit here and claim Ateez don't do fanservice - they do a lot for the fans directly (certainly more than I think they should feel obligated to) and they're obviously aware fans scream louder when any of them get close to each other, so they most likely know the most popular "ships", but I personally think comparing any of this to the Thai BL industry is taking things too far. Way too far, even.

But I'll explain myself:

I remembered them directly addressing this type of thing before so I dug around a bit and found the discussion I was thinking of in this 2020 video:

From that, we can already gather that group dynamics and chemistry have always been fluent in their heads and it's not about couples - duos, trios, the 99 line, Tropical Boys - it's all on the same level for them, all of it contributes to the Group Chemistry™.

Hongjoong here is still hilarious to me though:

On top of that, I genuinely don't think the company cares much about any of this. They just let them do whatever as long as they don't go causing controversies. That's also why they let the guys loose without media training. (The Jumping Ban™ was always a joke btw - it was never real.)

You gotta keep in mind KQ was originally a management agency - they were never following the same grain as BigHit. They also never had Ateez on a dating ban. I really don't think ships were on their mind much at all for a long time, probably right up until WooSan shippers felt the need to act up and start micro-analyzing and interpreting a million things into every small exchange which must have been impossible to ignore.

I do think that sudden shitstorm made all eight of them more aware of the many eyes that have been newly aimed at them and it's made them more careful and reserved in regards to certain things like having arguments on camera and such - they used to include moments like those in Logbooks sometimes.

But regardless, as someone who's been on top of Ateez's content since 2021, I honestly can't say I ever sensed a strain in any of their dynamics. They all very clearly adore each other a lot and, as time passed, they all collectively got closer and closer, but as they've matured, new dynamics also emerged (Topaz, for example, got really close really quickly, but also JongSang have gotten wilder, SanSang obviously got closer, and Wooyoung's lil crush on Yunho was addressed openly - and often jokingly). But that's just what happens when you're around the same 7 people day in and day out for years.

We see the same thing in groups like NCT Dream who all grew up together and have been together for ages. They constantly shift who they're obsessed with, but the overall family dynamic never wavers. I think that's just human nature - you switch up your favorite person to hang out with which keeps things interesting.

What I think is generally noteworthy though is that multiple duos can be doing the exact same thing, but only the most popular ships will be talked about and it'll be seen as A Moment™. This happens all the time.

But if you zoom out and actually keep track of all of them, it's clear to see they're all constantly all over each other - both with words and actions. I mean, all of these are from the same recent Logbook alone:

These guys just really, really love each other a lot and they're super comfortable in each other's space. They also all talk about each other all the time, whether the others are around or not. And whenever they have a solo schedule it's all "the members this", "the members that" - it's super sweet.

But more importantly, as they've gained popularity, they've also gotten more and more opportunities to build their careers, both as a group and individually. And this is exactly why I think this is no way comparable to the Thai BL industry which is wholly centred around couple-dynamics.

Ateez have been and always will be primarily about music, dancing, occasionally modelling, and whatever other passions they have. Since the beginning, they performed in zombie make-up, with masks on, etc. - they want to be known for their performances, their achievements and that's what they promote.

Whenever they do do fanservice, it's very obvious, honestly. For example, the duo fancalls recently where they were acting out what the fans wanted (the SeongJoong hug, Wooyoung sucking at Yeosang's cheek). Or when they play games where they have to get really up close and personal, they'll often exaggerate it and make teasing comments. Or when Wooyoung rubbed up against everyone while dancing to "Sexy Back" (San and Seonghwa's faces here are so friggin' funny lmao). But even when they do this type of stuff, they clearly still have fun with it themselves.

#3 - So what do I think of SanSang?

I think San just adores Yesoang a lot and he feels very protective of him. San's always been a protector even before he bulked up and, now that Wooyoung's really grown into himself and gained a lot of confidence, San may have instinctively moved to Yeosang who, honestly? Needs a protector more than anyone else in this group.

Wooyoung's already protected him for a long time and we've heard the stories of how that went - Yeosang getting fooled by a prank call, accepting strangers' invitations to pet their dogs, often needing instructions explained twice because he zones out a lot. He's not incapable - far from it (I mean, he chose to leave BigHit for his own good, thinking Wooyoung wouldn't follow, he's LOCKED IN whenever he performs, etc.) - but it is good he has people around who'll stick by him and watch over him.

#4 - San hiding his anger?

I also think San being different on- and off-camera isn't all too surprising. From the beginning, he's always acted the most while filmed (pitching up his voice, acting cutesy) because he was worried about coming across as scary or intimidating , and now he's likely concerned about being misunderstood or causing negative press if he allows himself to slip and let his anger show.

Mind you, I think his anger is likely primarily directed at saesangs, reporters, perhaps certain interview questions or other shit going on in the Kpop industry or just the world at large (politics, social injustices, etc.). We know he has a huge heart and he cares deeply and feels very protective, so seeing the state of the world right now will likely make him no less angry than it does the rest of us. But since he's a public figure, he has to sit on it a lot more.

#5 - 8 Makes 1 Team!

Now regarding what I think whenever the members flirt with each other, bicker, hug, kiss, etc. - I think they just do it because it's fun! They enjoy the fans getting so loud and hyped up while they're on stage, but they clearly also love seeing each other's reactions, pushing each other's boundaries, exploring how far they can go before the other one puts a stop to it. I mean, they've always been equally affectionate off camera too.

For example, Wooyoung biting Yeosang shortly after meeting him, WooSan being seen with their arms around each other while walking down the street years ago, all the 99 liners going to Seonghwa's bed for cuddles when they were still all sharing a dorm as eight (Seonghwa mentioned it in a live once when Yunho came to lay down with him).

They always pile onto each other, whether they know they're being filmed or not. It's likely what happens when you've been through hell together and we know their path to success was tough and included lots of abuse at the hands of Mnet, people who called themselves fans but aren't, award shows, and more. Not to mention the shit Jongho's been through with his former label and Mingi needing a mental health break and time to reconsider whether he even wanted to continue on this path or not.

Them having been this open with their words and physical affection from early on (thanks, Wooyoung <3) is clearly also what has gotten Jongho to be so much bolder now compared to when they first debuted. He even thanked them for it in 2019:

Ultimately, I don't know if any of them are truly dating or have ever dated. Just as I don't know if any of them have had or currently have romantic crushes on each other. All I know is what they show us and what they say and anything beyond that is for them to know and them to know only. I'm just happy to see them happy and thriving.

In conclusion:

I don't want to shame anyone for how they interpret and interact with the content Ateez puts out. If you like to ship, ship away within fandom spaces. All is good as long as personal boundaries are respected and everyone remains conscious of where they post and who might see it.

Please also keep in mind that everything I said here is simply how I see it, but if you'd like to chat about differences in opinion and such, please do feel free reach out - my ask box and messages are always open! <3

#ateez #jung wooyoung #choi san #kang yeosang #kim hongjoong #park seonghwa #jeong yunho #song mingi #choi jongho

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toastyyjams · 4 months ago

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Looking toward your opinion as an akinene enjoyer (based rarepair btw): thoughts on emu/toya? personally i think the different sides of the Rich Kid Experience(TM) along with their generally different demeanors could lead to an interesting dynamic.

emutoya being rich kid experience spectrum omg 😭 thats so funny im all for it .. toya just being like "ah whats my silly energentic gf doing w my brother(tsukasa) now🤗" and their height difference would be so cute too emu would ask to be lifted up simba from lion king style and he'd have to bend down for smooches YES i approve . 👍👍👍👍👍

as for akinene not much opinions from me i just think theyre adorbs esp the cut in lines for them and nene being so intimidated by akito and akito is just like "bruh i dont bite i promise" but nene dont trust that i think its hilariously silly

#asks #akito's rbf not doing him any favors

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writerblue275 · 2 years ago

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Ranking Heartsteel members from least to most dom. (With some explanation) 😏

Inspiration: It just popped in my head and wouldn’t leave so here we are......blame Ezreal.

Genre: Ranking

Category: SMUTTTTT (18+ ONLY UNDER THE KEEP READING. MINORS DNI.)

Gender: I’ll do my best to be gender neutral. I am AFAB, so please understand that’s where my perspective comes from, especially from an anatomical standpoint. That being said, I’ll try to keep language as GN as possible.

TW: NSFW as FUCK. Mentions quite a few kinks: Dirty talk, dom/sub dynamics, BDSM, etc...you have been warned.

Now that we have the logistics out of the way, are we all ready then? Lovely! Let's begin...😈

Important context: There’s an assumption here that everything is consensual. I’d never write anything about non consensual acts. Consent and communication are always CRITICAL. Also, this headcanon primarily applies to an established romantic relationship between member and reader, but I do think there are some things that could carry over into a FWB arrangement or something so have fun imagining that.

Least

- Ezreal

Do you know what’s hilarious? I actually have differing headcanons for Heartsteel Ezreal and like base-skin Piltover Ezreal. (I know Riot said it’s all the same universe and everything is canon, but are you really going to put Heartsteel Ezreal next to base-skin Ez, Debonair Ez, or Ace of Spades Ez and tell me they have the completely same vibes? To use my favorite GIF of Viktor from Arcane:)

But back to the reason we’re here. Let’s bffr, we all know this is the right spot for Heartsteel Ezreal.

He exudes such sub energy lmao. Like that’s baby boy right there. (He LOVES when you call him that BTW.)

You are absolutely going to be the one in control in your intimate relationship and that also includes aftercare. You will be taking care of him.

This chaotic man is a certified B R A T. The BRATTIEST of brats. And you just know it’s all on purpose to get a reaction out of you. 😂

Not shy at all about letting you know he’s needy. I’m not sure Ezreal (in any fucking universe lmao) has a subtle bone in his body. He definitely isn’t afraid to get a little whiny/clingy/handsy (but not like inappropriately so if you’re in public) in order to get his message across.

Likes to try and take the lead when you let him, but eventually he gets tired and you have to take back over.

Could he escape when you tie his wrists to the headboard? Absolutely, but why would he do that when he absolutely loves it? Also loves when you blindfold him. Oh, and he has the BIGGEST praise kink (receiving). Like be sure to tell him how good he’s being for you.

Wants you to use toys on HIM. Be creative and tease the hell out of him. It’s what he gets for being a brat.

He’s absolutely walked into rehearsal covered in love bites before, much to Alune’s dismay, so now you have to be a little more discreet about where you mark him. But believe me, he definitely wants you to.

- Aphelios

I was having such a difficult time figuring out how to classify Aphelios. Like I truly couldn’t figure out if he’d be dom or sub. Then it hit me….

He’s BOTH. The man is a fucking SWITCH. (HELL YEAH FOR SWITCHES.) Still a little unsure if he leans more dom or sub, but my gut is saying a bit more sub, so that’s what we’re going with.

There are days when he gets home and he needs to get his frustration/stress out. Those are the days he’s more dominant. Then there are other days where Phel is just damn tired and needs to be taken care of by his favorite person (you). Those are definitely the days he’s more submissive.

On those days, please pamper this man. He works so hard…

Even if traditional dirty "talk" can't be a part of your relationship, Phel’s a very creative man, as you know, and he will let you know how he feels, whether you're with him or not.

The absolute MASTER of sexting. Like you’ve been in meetings and your phone buzzes, and it’s just your lovely boyfriend texting you the most incredibly filthy stuff. You even had a coworker once ask if you were alright, you were so flushed. But my friend, TEASE HIM BACK. One afternoon Yone had to whack him on the back after he took a sip of water, looked down at his messages from you, and started coughing.

I’ve discussed previously (HERE) that I don’t think he’s had a ton of relationships before you, so I think the broadening of horizons in your physical relationship will take time. Butttttttt…..

This man is a very fast learner. (I’ve said it before and I will say it again: The quiet ones are always the most perceptive.) He knows exactly where and how to touch you in order to hear you gasp and moan. (Your body is an instrument, and as we all know, Phel is GREAT at playing instruments.) As he learns more about you and your body, he is willing to try new things with you. He trusts you deeply.

Whether or not he’s on top, Aphelios likes positions that allow him to see your face, and more importantly to him, allow you to see his face. Because he can’t verbally tell you how incredible you are and how much he loves you in the moment, it’s really important to him for you to be able to get that message somehow, and his face is very expressive. (Especially his eyes.)

Doesn’t matter if you’re leading aftercare or he is, it’s one of his favorite parts. The intimacy between the two of you while in this “vulnerable” state, taking such gentle care of each other, makes him melt. (Despite all the sass and the smolder in photos, he’s become a bit of a romantic.)

(A/N: Ok Yone and K’Sante I could also see being flipped here. I feel like they’re similar in “level” of dom, if that makes sense.)

- Yone

So Yone is definitely where we cross over into members who are for sure more dominant. Like he’d let you lead if you asked, but he’d absolutely be in control most of the time.

Similar to Aphelios, he knows EXACTLY how to read your body. (Those quiet men and their awareness!!!!) An extremely fast learner when it comes to what flusters you, gets you in the mood, and your favorite things he does.

Do not be afraid to be vocal with him. He loves hearing your noises when he does something very right. And he loves hearing you talk (especially when you say his name). He’ll always verbally confirm with you that you’re still enjoying yourself. And don’t worry about being too loud. He’ll soundproof the bedroom if necessary (he knows where to get extra soundproofing foam since he redid his whole studio).

“That’s it, my love…say my name again for me…let me hear you…” (🫠 <- Oh look it’s me!)

I ranked him the most romantic member for a fucking REASON (though I still think him and Sett are basically neck and neck). I think what really takes Yone up in the romance arena are his pet names for you (HERE).

There’s no one better to create mood music. And you know he puts in EFFORT. Along with mood music, I can absolutely see him giving you roses and slow dancing around your apartment to just set the VIBES. (Fucking immaculate vibes right there.)

While I can’t see Yone having too many “wild” kinks or fantasies, one that I absolutely can see him enjoying is shibari. Of course he’s very gentle and makes sure you’re not too uncomfortable (this sweet sweet man).

As I said earlier, he definitely likes to hear you, so dirty talking (both giving and receiving, but especially receiving) is for sure a big kink of his. And you love when he murmurs/whispers the sweetest yet dirtiest things into your ear.

Primarily prefers positions where he can see your face, but I also think surprisingly he’d like to hit it from behind. Especially when shibari is involved.

Very very sweet with aftercare. He thoroughly checks you over, making sure you’re feeling alright, and wipes you down before whisking you away to a bath. That’s when cuddly Yone comes out and he’s not leaving your side for the rest of the evening.

- K’Sante

K’Sante? He knows how to treat a partner RIGHT. He’s setting the mood throughout the entire fucking DAY. But you know what makes it even better? It doesn’t even have to be a special occasion. It could be a random Thursday and he’s still going all out.

I suppose that makes him the king of foreplay since he knows how to play the long game. This man is a PATIENT dom. What a fucking tease omg. (Those are his biggest kinks btw. Foreplay and teasing (both giving)).

Buys you a full outfit he knows (not thinks, KNOWS) will look incredible on you. Includes lingerie if that’s something you like. Of course he’s right. It really did look great on you and you got so many compliments that you couldn’t help but feel amazing and sexy. He also takes care of any small things you usually do so you can focus on yourself.

Sending you texts that gradually get flirtier and spicier throughout the day. Might even leave you a voice message or voice mail (with a text warning first to use your headphones because he’s smart like that).

All of this makes it so you’re ready to pounce on K'Sante the second he gets home. You’re ready to climb this giant man like a fucking tree.

That’s EXACTLY what he was trying to do. He can’t help but chuckle as he carries you to the kitchen instead of the bedroom, ignoring your complaints. He just smirks widely down at you once he sets you on the counter and softly but confidently, brooking no argument, says, “Not on an empty stomach, baby. You and I both know that’s unwise.” (He’s absolutely right.)

But worry not. The fun starts after you finish the delicious dinner he made. He’ll put you right back on the counter and enjoy his “dessert” first. 😉

Eventually though, even the master of the long game finally loses his patience (he played himself just a little bit). I think because of that, he’d be just a bit rough with you (though of course nothing that you dislike). You’re up against the wall/door of the bedroom as soon as you enter. When K'Sante doesn’t play the long game, I definitely think he’s much gentler and more romantic with you. Even without the long game he’s still definitely a fan of foreplay like oral or toys. He’s making sure you’re prepared for him.

Loves positions where he can show off his strength. He works hard for it, and what better way to reap the benefits than to use it to make you feel good? Loves anything that involves carrying you around.

I can totally see K’Sante being great at aftercare. He’d heat up some leftover food for you and get you a Gatorade (hydration!!!) after helping you clean up. And I fully believe cuddling him is one of the best things ever.

- Sett

Settrigh (that’s right, FULL NAME TO START) is not only dominant as fuck, but he’s one of the most ROMANTIC doms of the group and you will not convince me otherwise.

Outside of the bedroom? You have Sett wrapped around your little finger. This man worships the ground you walk on. (Lucky!!)

But intimacies? That’s his domain. He’s here to give you what you and your body NEED. You just have to give him the keys and let him drive. (“Let him cook” as the kids today say [lmao I swear I’m not even that old]).

When he’s with you, his goal isn’t even to find his own pleasure. Remember when I said acts of service (giving) is one of his love languages? 😉 (Same headcanon linked in Phel's.)

His goal? To make sure you feel loved/give you as much pleasure as you want. THAT’S how he finds his pleasure, knowing you’re feeling out-of-this-world because of what HE’S doing.

The master at creating romantic ambience. An incredible homemade meal by candlelight, a rose petal trail/petals covering the bed, special surprises (toys, lingerie, candles, music), and many other things to help set the mood.

Sett is extremely tall and very strong (I mean duh, pit fighter) and he loves pulling you into his lap for a make out session.

Praise kink, both giving and receiving. Loves telling you how good you are for him, how incredible you feel. And when you breathlessly tell him he feels perfect and beg him not to stop? That’s the shit he LIVES FOR. Absolutely loves the sounds you make. To likely no one’s surprise, I do think he has at least a little bit of a breeding kink.

Because he is a romantic, he likes to see your face. Loves watching your expression as he brings you bliss over and over and over again. (“Eyes on me, kitten. That’s it…you follow my directions so well, love…”) Also loves oral (giving). It’s one of his absolute favorite things in this world. Please PLEASE sit on his face, he loves it.

A KING of aftercare. Like Sett spoils you absolutely rotten. You don’t even have to lift a finger as he gently wipes you down with a warm wash cloth, carries you to a bubble bath where he cuddles and cleans you himself, and grabs you all the water and snacks that you need as soon as you’re cozy in bed again. He sets the bar SKY HIGH.

- Kayn

If you don’t think Kayn is very much on the dominant side, I don’t know what to tell you because have you SEEN HIM? The confidence. The energy. His SMIRK. This man is in full control and he KNOWS IT.

Will let you be in control every now and then when you request, but he’s definitely the main one who is in charge. And honestly he’s so good at his job that you’re very happy with your arrangement.

Loves buying you lingerie (so he can rip it off you later). If you surprise him by waiting in bed wearing just lingerie that he bought you, Kayn will go FERAL.

HICKEYS. This man is shameless when it comes to marking you. And he loves feeling you mark him, but of course because of his profession, you’re a bit more limited on where you can mark him. He needs to be able to cover them.

He is kinky as hell. Hair pulling, BDSM, edging, toys, and more. Dirty talk KING. Like I don’t think he’d shut up. Murmurs the filthiest shit in your ear. With your consent he’d also take photos and videos, but of course they’re on a completely separate phone that only you two know about/have access to (he takes it with him when he travels).

He’s an ass man so any position he can see your ass, he loves. Big fan of oral (both giving and receiving but more so receiving). “You look so fucking pretty on your knees for me, Angel…”

Of course Kayn’s not a jackass. If you need to go slower or need more romance he’s happy to give you that. He can be surprisingly gentle and sweet.

And if you ever do need to use it, the SECOND you use your safe word, he stops, murmuring gentle and sincere apologies and affirmations as he takes you through your aftercare routine. He knows he can be rough, since you’ve told him he’s allowed to be, but the very last thing he wants to do is hurt you or go beyond your limits. You’re truly precious to him.

I think he is secretly phenomenal at aftercare. Like you might not think so from looking at him, but he really goes the full nine yards. Warm bath or shower with him, changing into comfy pjs (or not, he leaves it up to you), a massage if you’re sore anywhere, hand feeding you a snack and helping you hydrate, and some damn good cuddles and pillow talk.

Kayn is an excellent dom who cares about your satisfaction and well being in and out of the bedroom.

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Thank you for reading! This was so fun to write. I'll be honest, I even managed to fluster myself! 😳😂 Maybe I’ll have to do like NSFW A-Z for each member. Here’s a small glimpse into my internal and external reactions as I was writing for each member!

Ezreal: *Smirking, giggling, kicking my feet* (He’s who inspired this entire post tbh.)

Aphelios: *Eyes widening in realization and blushing*

Yone: *Sighing and swooning*

K’Sante: *Biiiiiiiiiig smirk*

Sett: *Melts into a god damn puddle*

Kayn: *Screams into the void because HOLY SHIT??*

#heartsteel #heartsteel headcanons #heartsteel x reader #heartsteel ezreal #heartsteel aphelios #heartsteel yone #heartsteel k'sante #heartsteel sett #heartsteel kayn #headcanon #heartsteel smut

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cook-a-little-chicken · 18 days ago

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Burglary and Bobsledding

(Some of my favourite little moments)

the utter surprise with possibly feelings of betrayal from Tom as Luke starts speaking in a Swedish accent. He fully stops his mime and turns to look at him

the little dance Luke does at "two-man bobsleigh"

"you know, nobody else has ever thought of it. they always go for a bigger team" < no, they do have two-man bobsleighs

"one of us born and raised in Sweden, and the other one, meee!" < I adore that bit from Tom, and often find myself repeating that same intonation. You can also hear someone in the audience repeating "me!" just as Luke starts talking

[definitely not Swedish accent] < love the subtitles

Tom doubling over at AJ's "oh I'm a fucking pirate this is"! and Luke enjoying the mess he's caused and losing it when AJ wanders over to New York

"crafted in the Swedish mountains" "that's where we are now" "yes. it was made down the road"

"you flew! the both of you flew down, and because of the umbilical cord you pulled your mother down with ya! [waving his arms around] the three of you went down the mountain" < my absolute favourite bit. I burst out laughing every time

AJ's character has hair in this (he does the hair-blowing-in-the-wind mime)

"Helter, I want to address the fact that I called you Skelter earlier" < AJ is losing it at the side

"I can't wait for tomorrow" "I can't focus on tomorrow"

btw when you bobsleigh you sit down and bend forwards I think

ah I see their workshop door is open and that you can just bobsleigh out of it, which is a fun set-up

Tom killing himself off so he doesn't need to continue doing that accent. Luke clocking that, laughing, and then immediately getting into character and crying

I love Tom just continuing with the second verse of "Ave Maria". I also can't listen to "Ave Maria" anymore without hearing AJ's wailing siren + little laugh breaks in the background (from the Nun Wrangler flurry), and I get that lovely accompaniment whenever it's stuck in my head. also Tom can carry a tune. I know he gets a lot of hate for it from the boys, the subtitles, and himself, but he can sing! he might not be as good as Sam and AJ but it sounds good!

"Ham" was genius from Luke. also Luke says "second is for Norway" earlier on, so congrats to Germany for beating both to get first place

btw Sweden still use Krona

I don't think I've ever seen all performers on stage break as much as AJ and Luke did at "the Swedish House Mafia". I also didn't realise this was a band until I saw an edit a while back. I thought the whole "listening to their tunes" was metaphorical, and the "has it been rhythmic?" later on was in reference to the Swedish accent...

"but I know these mountains like the back of my hand" < they usually do bobsleighs down tracks, so that probably won't be very helpful. also random tangent but I never understood the phrase "like the back of my hand". dunno about anyone else but I don't particularly know mine very well

both of them saying the "it's weird doing it with two hands" joke

"you did a little push, and I kinda thought "you're gonna push them, you're a joker!" and I did a little murder. Because you're all about fun, and I'm all about-" "murder" "results" < such a good sibling dynamic

love the little side glance AJ does to Tom after saying "now you can see her", as he probably remembered Luke just saying "she is a true beauty"

btw empty two-man bobsleighs weigh a minimum of 170kg, so the Swedish father-son duo are very strong. also the heavier the bobsleigh, the faster it goes. though it's easier to push at the start if it's lighter

"they have press releases" < love you Tom you're hilarious

"the camper the German, the more likely they are to win" + strike pose

"oh by the way, inside is a recorded message. I realise it could be hard to- Yep!"

"Andre Beetroot in the house!" < thank you Tom for fuelling the Andre Beetroot time traveller theory! and AJ is so good at these television host-type characters!

btw bobsleighs don't have steering wheels, but they do have two steering handles (one for each hand) that they can pull to steer

Helter Skelter's story is so tragic. all three of his close family members died on that mountain... (the mother probably died when she went down the mountain after giving birth if she's still got the umbilical cords)

"well now, what seems to be the problem here?" < I adore Tom's Irish accent (I'm useless at accents and have no clue if it's accurate, but it's very melodious to the ears)

#this is my favourite underrated longform it's so good!#I think second is Too big to be a jockey so I might do a commentary on that too at some point who knows #btw the bobsleigh tidbits were just some things I googled and thought were interesting #I'm fully aware that they weren't trying to make it accurate #I mean at one point they go into “horizontal mode”#but I was curious and thought it'd be fun to add in #sfth #shoot from the hip #burglary and bobsledding #my favourite longform moments

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rosannalyn · 1 month ago

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*deep breath this is a long one*

Ok so nobody asked but my absolute favorite podcast is Midnight Burger. It's fucking hilarious, I am in love with every character, and both of the miniseries they've done are so fun AND plot expanding that I absolutely don't mind switching from Gloria kidnapping baristas, because after that I get to listen to Frank trying not to strangle everyone in Hood's Pocket. I love how every character feels different and important.

The idea of a time traveling, dimension hopping, space diner is the perfect cross of science fiction with mundanity. I've heard a couple people say it's like Doctor Who but with only companions, and I think that's pretty apt.

The episode that got me hooked was episode 12, "Ted, Just Admit It" . For the past 11 episodes, Caspar has been set up as a Debby Downer, sarcastic "manager" who never wants anything to change (those are pretty big air quotes btw, he basically just has seniority). At the end of episode 10, Caspar gets arrested (it honestly feels less like arrest more like kidnapping) by the Ted Empire, who are the main bad guys for season 2.

One particular Ted, who everyone just calls Ted, is interrogating Caspar to find the whereabouts of Ava, a theoretical physicist who has been studying the Diner along with everyone else. Up till now, Caspar has been spineless and all around kind of dumb. But when Ted interrogates him, he refuses to give up information, even with the threat of being frozen semi consciously. And the entire time he's cracking jokes, being sarcastic. Why? Because right before he got kidnapped, Caspar made the decision to jettison Ava off the parking lot into deep space, and Caspar thinks Ava is dead and he killed her.

I just love this episode so much I don't know how to write it properly. I freaking love this stupid silly podcast. I love that Leif is an intergalactic criminal, engineering genius, AND a cook. I love how Ava plays off of other characters, especially Caspar. I love how Gloria takes one look at a space diner, and says yeah, this is a taqueria now, or how every time she sees injustice in the cosmos, she makes it her business to fuck shit up until it's fixed. Gloria has declared war on not just an intergalactic empire, and not just an OP tangerine goddess, but basically picks a fight with God, and manages to get out of it alive.

I adore Caspar and his negative outlook on everything. He is a grumpy 175 year old man and he acts like he's 12 half the time. I love how far he's come over the past 4 seasons. I love how they introduce his son, David and how it changes the dynamic of the Diner. I also am on the edge of my seat to find out what happens with Caspar's ex-wife from another dimension, who sent an all powerful Sentient robot to confront Caspar for leaving her in every single dimension, which is literally impossible.

#midnight burger #we open at six #podcast #rose posts #welcome to the horizon #leif midnight burger #ava midnight burger #Gloria my beloved #gloria midnight burger #caspar midnight burger #david midnight burger #lyd talks midnight burger

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maeberzatto · 6 days ago

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Did you think season 4 was good overall? Cause I have very mixed feelings on it lol

yes hi let's talk about this because i've seen a lot of people discuss this and while i shared some of my thoughts, i do wanna dive deeper into it so, again spoiler warning if you haven't watched all of season 4 yet

i feel like i wanna break this down further into more sections this time. this also isn't to say "my opinion is the only one!!" if you liked this season, great! i think it had some really good moments, but there was also some things that needed improvement.

THE DIALOGUE and STORYLINE - MAIN THOUGHT: WHAT??

this is one of the main issues i've seen people say they had with this season. a lot of the dialogue felt flat and it seemed to contrast from seasons 1 and 2 mainly. while i think it did fit in better with season 3, i do want to say that personally, i think seasons 1 and 2 were the prime of the show.

for example, the whole argument between carmen and sydney in the final episode of this season felt really off. i think their decision to have carmen retire because he knew the bear needed something that wasn't him makes no sense for two reasons:

one, carmen had spent all of seasons 2 and 3 trying to make the bear work. for him to suddenly make the decision seemingly overnight to retire and leave all the hard work he's put into the bear, mainly with sydney and his partnership with her behind, feels like a very sloppy ending. especially when you take in the fact that cooking is his entire life - the man has denim jeans in his oven likely to prevent himself from cooking at home too to have one space where that isn't all he does. and yeah, you can say that carmen was just doing it because of michael + his grief, because he wanted to prove himself and it failed, whatever. two, the writers trying to make it seem like carmen just "fell out of love" with cooking was such an odd take. i reblogged earlier a part of his dialogue with nat ("it's okay if you don't love it anymore because the most special part about it is that you were capable of that love") that just didn't fit. it doesn't fit anywhere in the grand scheme of the plot, i'm sorry.

in terms of storyline, i thought cicero deciding to give them two months was sort of out of the blue. having that be the main starting point and storyline of season 4 felt super rushed.

i think it would've been nice to still see the restaurant in its opening stages. i don't think it was specified how long it had been between seasons and cicero, at the end of season 3 at least, seemed confident in the bear. so even if the restaurant wasn't bringing in as much money, why was that not expanded on first?

i also think having an episode focused on tiff was good. the underneath the table scene was one of my favorites of season four (only beat by carmen holding his niece because oh my gosh he was so adorable in that scene especially when the "she's gonna smell like onions" "she's half berzatto, she's gonna smell like onions anyway") and carmen saying his fear was math is so hilarious i do not care

i wish they had expanded on natalie and francie's dynamic more though before they just immediately jumped into like "oh they hate each other btw!" i wish they had done an episode like they had in season 3 where it showed what nat's friendship with francie looked like before they got to the "fuck you" point. other than that, i thought it was nice.

SYDNEY and CARMEN'S RELATIONSHIP (and claire) - MAIN THOUGHT: WHO THE FUCK IS SAYING THEY'RE JUST FRIENDS.

before i get someone asking me this: yes, i am still mad about the fact they are still actively ignoring what their audience wants.

and let me also say something i didn't mention in my original post ranting about season 4: i'm mad about the fact it seems like the show is trying to actively withdraw what carmen and sydney's dynamic was.

i also think it's still really evident that the writers are still trying to give claire a space in carmen's life. you wanna know what most of the reviews said about claire when she was first introduced? that they don't have good chemistry, and that's still true. and i really, really wish the show would stop trying to push two people together that just dont fit.

i also think it's noteworthy to add that since season one, fans have been asking for carmen and sydney to get together. each season, you know what the number one prediction or hope is (most of the time?)

it's that carmen and sydney will get together.

and i don't wanna hear one more person say "carmen's not in a good headspace to be dating!" because if he wasn't in a good headspace to be dating sydney, he wasn't in a good one to be dating claire. and if that's true, the writers are actively pushing a storyline they know isn't meant to be.

and also can i just say, claire's relationship with carmen only really affected sydney. no one else was as upset with her involvement as sydney was, and for good reason - because whether she realizes it or not, she was jealous of carmens relationship with sydney.

(disclaimer: before i sound insane, yeah i know. it's just a tv show, i'm aware. but the entire point of my blog is for me to write about this shit so if you hate me having a passion about it, maybe dont interact with a show-specific blog!)

i think it's just really stupid of them to not put them together already and it's putting a really sour taste on my opinion of the show when the writers have denied their relationship in the past despite purposefully giving us scenes between them together, and then will continue to ignore what their audience wants.

ignoring what the people who are giving you a show to continue making only works for so long, and as dumb as that may sound, it's true. people will eventually stop watching, especially when you have accounts like hulu that share photos / videos of sydney and carmen together with 👀 being the emoji of choice.

i think it's just stupid to not put them together. storyline wise, it makes sense. audience wise, you know it's what majority of people want. and honestly, i'm not even saying this as a sydcarmy shipper, but as an overall viewer of the show. my life would be fine without sydney and carmen ending up together and i can still admit not putting them together is fucking weird at this point.

and listen, i think 100% that chris didn’t intend for them to be anything but platonic when the show started. that may have been the intention but at some point, ya gotta stop being delusional and accept that they’re being written to be romantic partners.

and that's all i have to say on that because if i say anymore i'd sound insane i swear

other than those two aspects, i did sort of enjoy season 4. first and foremost, i did enjoy the cinematic aspects of it. i also thought that somewhat of the storyline was nice except for that ridiculous finale episode. and i know they're only using it to keep people engaged for season 5 (if they decide to do one, because ultimately as they've said in the past that resides with chris storer and his decision to do another season) but if they're not planning on it, that is a fucking dumbass way to end so. there's that.

i can also understand why a lot of people, because of how season four went, have decided to stop watching. i did see a post regarding that and saw a few more on varying socials and honestly, i get it. in comparison to the other seasons, i'd say season four was kind of a fail in terms of having the same impact as seasons 1, 2, and 3.

anyway. hope this answers your question and i still sound like my insane self as always!

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