#i hate mr perry

[puckspoetry]

“Neil Perry was a fine student, one of Welton’s best” HE WASNT JUST A GODDAMN STUDENT!! THAT’S REALLY ALL THEY THINK OF NEIL?? THAT HES A FINE STUDENT??

NO WONDER HE WAS DEPRESSED! HE COULDN’T ESCAPE FROM HIS FATHER ANYWHERE! SCHOOL WAS JUST A REMINDER OF HIS FATHER!! KEATING WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO SAW HIM AS A PERSON AND MR. PERRY TOOK THAT AWAY FROM HIM!!!

[neilperryismine]

the difference between this and this kills me

they are moments apart but in the first one it’s like his desperate and giving up hope and in the second one he’s accepting his fate and almost laughing at the absurdity of it (in my opinion), like he wants to cry and scream to change his fathers mind but there’s no use

[morfitties]

It’s so weird to think about what would have happened if Mr Perry wasn’t such a fucking dickhead. If he was a more distanced father like the others. Mr Perry started a domino’s effect that changed the lives of 8 peoples and probably some of the other students at Walton (Sticks, Spas, maybe even the Latin teacher).

What would have happened? Charlie wouldn’t have went to military school, Mr Keating would still be teaching at Walton, they would still have the meetings and go to university; would they keep in touch? Reminisce? Fight the long distances to stay family? Would any of them lead the lives they ACTUALLY wanted to live?

[midnighttangerine]

The actor who plays Neil Perry’s father guest starring in a show where Neil Perry’s actor plays a doctor.

I hate this show.

[inahallucination]

Controversial Dead Poets Opinion: Mr. Perry is trying his best; let's give him a break. Both Mr. and Mrs. Perry deeply care about Neil. They did handle the whole theater kid situation poorly, but still… Let's give credit to Kurtwood Smith for his performance. As he said in an interview, in the hallway scene, he tried to play it down and not act as if Mr. Perry was harassing Neil because Tom loves his son and genuinely believes he is acting in Neil's best interests. Thank you. Now you can lynch me if you wish.

The interwiew is on YouTube "MOVIE TRAILER Action Trailer Movie | DEAD POETS SOCIETY - Actor Interviews | Club der toten Dichter", I'm refering to the bit from 12:53 onwards.

mr perry is such an interesting character and reducing him to just a dimensionless horrible person not only does a disservice to him but also to neil's character and story line

kurtwood smith is an amazing actor and his performance was amazing

dont get me wrong i very much dislike him and i dont think how he treats neil is okay or excusable but i also do believe he thinks he's doing what he thinks is good for neil

actually a lot of parents will push their own ideas and dreams onto their kids in the hope that theyll live a better/happier life

anyway im not gonna go on a analyzing rant about him and his relationship to neil but yea i get ya

[average-joseph]

Thinking a lot about Mr. Perry.

For easy math let's say he was born in 1910. When he's just a little kid WWI starts. His father probably goes to war. He either has to deal with no father for those important years of childhood, or his father not coming back at all.

When he's about to start his life as a young adult 19 or 20, the great depression happens. Probably from a middle class family, his family is going to suffer greatly. If he's the oldest, he'd be the one to try to make money for them but there aren't any jobs so what can you do.

He's going to grow up in bad circumstances, try to make it, raise a family, and just as his son is born he has to go fight in WWII.

Not to mention Neil is the only son they have. Middle class families typically didn't have just one child so I'm imagining just how much pressure Neil was going to have on him from the start.

I think that Mr. Perry is the way he is because he's in a mindset for sheer survival. He couldn't imagine Neil having other ambitions when he considered Neil to be so lucky.

[yourfavvgal]

fuck it im sobbing from watching the whole of dead poets society with @lv3buzzz

kfkekekwkekjfjdj actually sobbing

JFJEKWOKDKFKDKEKRK FUCK YOU MR PERRY

[bruciemilf]

I’m on the second episode of My Adventures With Superman and I KNOW I know, this deserves to be Clark’s show, BUT HEAR ME OUT A SECOND.

Imagine the Waynes didn’t die and Thomas is trying DESPERATELY to buy the Daily Planet from White, but to absolutely no avail.

“For the last time, Wayne, you can have this company when the Gotham Knights win a Stanley Cup.”

“Y’all cheated last year and you KNOW it, White! Come on! We knew each other for 20 years—“

“Not true.”

“You gotta have ONE nice thing to say about me! You saw my charity records? My trip to the Amazon? I found a goddam dinosaur, for Pete’s sake!”

“And you sent it to the Gotham museum.”

“…Well yeah, it looked real pretty.”

“Look, Wayne. I can either give your ego the stroke of the century, or keep Lane and those two idiot interns in check, but I can’t do both. Now get out of here, or—“

Clark clearing his throat, holding two cups of coffee in his comically large hands, “Uh, the coffee machine broke, so I had to run to the store. Is this a bad time?”

Thomas whistling, because what the FUCK. “Christ, boy, how tall are you? How tall is he, White? You a security guard? You WANNA be a security guard?”

“Uh, Clark Kent. Idiot intern,” Clark introduced himself politely despite Perry’s grumbling.

Needless to say, Thomas Wayne is…Intimidating.

“I’ve heard about your research on metahuman physics, Mr. Wayne. It’s brilliant.”

“Oh, that? That was all my boy, really. He’s got all these ideas about reinventing the healthcare system for everybody or something like that. Hell, he wants to invent some bandaids for that Superman fella. “

“That,” Clark blinked, “Actually sounds amazing.”

“Right?. The other day he came to me like, ‘Can I have 30,000 for a research expedition?’ You should’ve seen him in his little lab coat, — cutest thing. Hold on, I have pictures.”

Clark expected a particularly eccentric 10 year not, not a — gorgeous— adult man in what looked to be a great amount of eyeliner and one hell of a scowl. “He’s…” gorgeous, “He seems interesting.”

“Ain’t he? You should meet him sometime. Hates talking to the press, but, I’m sure we can arrange something. “

“Good luck with that. I tried interviewing the kid alone for 10 minutes and Mr. Wayne here kept getting in the way. Probably because he has something to hide.”

“Bruce ain’t really made for the camera, so I had to step in, ya know how it is. He ain’t really the independent kind.” Thomas shrugs. “I know, I know, — you gotta leave em to fly sometimes, and while I bet he’d look cute tryin’,”

Thomas chuckles, but it doesn’t sound amusing. At all. “No bird leaves MY nest.”

—

Clark finds out why Perry can’t prove Thomas Wayne is Batman. It’s because he’s wrong. He’s listened to Batman’s heartbeat before. And Thomas doesn’t stutter.

Bruce Wayne does, thought.

[trans-jon-rights]

I think we don't talk enough about the amount of unprocessed trauma Jon must have. Like, all of his experiences, everything left a mark, a trauma. We talk enough about his scars, but some of his traumas are more talked about than others.

For exemple, the lotion trauma and the arachnophobia are the ones I see the most talked about. Of course he hates the feeling of lotion on his skin after that month with the Circus, and of course he is afraid of spiders -- though I feel like the latter is very discussed because of how proheminent it is in the show. The fact that he can't stand knocking on a door a certain way because of Mr Spider, or checks for a Leitner plaque every time he reads something are well known and accepted, too.

But do we talk about how much he probably can't stand seeing a mannequin exposed in the vitrin of a shop ?

How he probably had a panic attack once when he stumbled a bit and fell ? He doesn't even need to fall from high to be triggered, because even a second of falling makes him feel like Mike Crew is in front of him, and that he's going to be falling forever this time, that he won't ever touch ground.

He probably became entirely vegetarian after meeting Jared Hopworth, but I doubt he cooked much meat since his encounter with Jude Perry, with the sound and the smell of the pan sizzling reminding him too much of his own skin melting.

He has at least five CO2 extinguishers in his home alongside a large stash of insecticide, all because even if he knows Prentiss is dead, he feels like vomitting every time he so much as see a wasp or a worm of any kind.

We can take the autistic headcanon, maybe he liked weighted blankets before the Coffin -- but now ? That item of comfort has become a source of constant anxiety, something else taken by the Fears.

After learning about Sasha, he probably frantically passed over every single polaroid he possessed from uni or before, those showing his parents, friends, grandmother, asking a single question -- is it really them ? Are the people in my memory the same ones as in those photos ?

Yes, he checks for a Leitner plaque at the beginning of every book he reads, but did he stop reading for a while by fear of Mr Spider returning ? Did he have someone checking his books for him, making sure they wouldn't control him and feeling terribly guilty at the posibility of dooming someone else if the book is indeed dangerous ?

He probably can't stand the scent of chemicals either, after six months in a hospital.

Did he take that long to notice Jonah and Elias had the same eyes because he can't look at any of the portraits hanging in the Institute, too overwhelmed by the sensation of scrutiny all the while feeling guilty because he knows he's inflicting the same thing on others ?

Clinging onto Martin every time the weather is a bit foggy, terrified he will lose him ?

Jon got so much trauma responses that are too rarely considered, and I wish we as a fandom explored more of this aspect in fics.

[migmegjam]

unpopular opinion:

I don't have any dislike towards Cameron. I don't necessarily agree with the way he reacted, but I don't hate him.

I think he's very much a product of the upbringing he and all the boys had: not questioning authority, putting emphasis on a good education and profitable career as life goals, making sure to follow rules and not stand out etc. And I feel like we need to remember that, at the end of the day, he is only 16/17. Kids at that age are very impressionable, and I honestly think it's an understandable reaction that his first instinct upon exepriencing what is a very traumatic and potentially life altering event is to turn to following his authority figures and to lean into what they're saying as truth.

I also think there must be some understandable fear that if he didn't agree with what Nolan and Mr Perry were saying, it would jeapordise his whole future. Based on the reaction we saw from other parents, it would be reasonable to assume that his parents wouldn't have been happy with him if he had supported Mr Keating, and when you've spent your whole life being told that where you go to high school and what degree you get at which university will decide your future, it would be logical for him to decide to follow the rules out of fear.

Whilst I applaud the other poets for having the courage to stand up to the school staff - it is, after all, what we know and love them for - I don't really want to persecute a kid for not having that in him. My only real hope (and personal headcanon) is that an adult Cameron with more perspective and resources would be able to look back and understand that it wasn't actually Mr Keating's fault that things went the way they did, but rather an error in the system that was perpetuated by the adults in his life.

[puckspoetry]

ok so the only two scenes where we see Neil crying are in the comfort of Keating’s office and (a little bit) right before his death in the room with his father. Keating’s office is evidently the only place Neil felt safe as it’s where he went throughout the film to find comfort. So is it far fetched for me to say that the only places Neil found comfort were with Mr. Keating and in death?

[neilperryismine]

we definitely don’t talk about this moment enough

the look todd gives mr keating after neil fathers takes him away. todd just wanted to speak to neil and tell him how good he was, and he was dragged away. and you can’t tell me that todd didn’t think there was something wrong because he looks so concerned

and imagine what would’ve happened if neil’s father didn’t turn up…sigh

[morfitties]

Something that breaks my heart every time I think about dead poets society is that Mr Perry ruined the lives of seven kids and an honest to god good teacher because he was so far up his own selfish ass

He was a shitty ass abuser- but if he had just let Neil talk without putting him down, would Neil have kept living instead of going for the gun?

Neil lost his life, the poets lost their best friend, Charlie got sent to military school, keating got fired and the group was never the same after that one night. All because of Mr Perry.

[sketches4mysw33theart]

Dead Poets Society: Some Thoughts and Analysis

Essentially a stream of consciousness I had while rewatching the movie today. In chronological order as I was making notes!

✒️ Charlie talks so much with his eyebrows

✒️ Todd is tasked with taking minutes of the meetings, but I don't believe we ever see him actually do so (although it would have been nice if he did)

✒️ Cameron looks so much like a fisherman when he's smoking his pipe

✒️ Cameron's distaste for Charlie (and often for the rest of the boys) is evident super early on (e.g. when they walk out of Mr Keating's first class and Cameron says "do you think he'll test us on that stuff?" And, when he gets shut down, he throws a very angry look at Charlie and the poets. This happens several times, but as far as I remember we never see Cameron retaliate.) From this, while I don't like it, I understand why Cameron did what he did at the end of the movie because I think he felt undermined by the others and he was considered 'useful' and 'smart' for the school

✒️ Also, I do not accept that Cameron's name is Richard Cameron, he's pulling a Zendaya and goes by one name only

✒️ Mr Keating looks so disappointed in Charlie when saying "Thank you, Mr Dalton, you just illustrated the point"

✒️ I think Knox kissing Chris at the party, while somewhat gross, is necessary to show that Carpe Diem isn't always the right thing to do, as is Charlie putting the article in the paper  - i think maybe Chris not ending up with Knox would have hammered this home, especially because she seems perfectly happy with Chet. Of course, Chet's response to what happened at the party isn't fair, but it is definitely what I can see a teenage boy on the high school football team in the 50's doing. Don't choke on the bone, Knoxious!

✒️ Is Charlie trying to get thrown out of school? With the article in the paper stunt, he must have known how serious the repercussions would be, so maybe already he was considering getting out of school because he felt it wasn't the right path for him

✒️ "You made a liar out of me, Neil" - Mr Perry, I hate you

✒️ Did all of the poets, minus Neil and Knox, really squeeze into Keating's car?!

✒️ Neils little face when he comes out of the curtain, and how quick it falls when he sees his father - he's like a little kid showing a finger painting to a parent who insults it, he just wants his Dad to be proud of him

✒️ Mr Keating's face when Neil drives away after the play - I think he had an idea what was coming

✒️ That zoom in on Neil's face when his father's saying "more of this acting business, you can forget that"- he knew, then, that his dad would never change and what he was going to do

✒️ I want the doorknobs in the Perry house, specifically Neil's

✒️ The first time I watched this movie, I was so on edge when Neil was standing in front of the open window, thinking he was going to jump, and when he didn't I was like 'phew', and then the thing happened and my blood sugar spiked way up

✒️ Mr Perry saying 'my poor son' - i don't know, it rubs me up the wrong way, he has a name, he is not simply an extension of you

✒️ Cameron isn't there when the poets tell Todd what happened to Neil

✒️ The lingering image of Charlie with a tear down his face is so beautiful

✒️ Knox just clinging to Todd in the snow

✒️ The comparison between the deleted scene of Neil and Todd running lines by the lake when it's sunny and Todd running towards the lake screaming Neil's name 💔

✒️ Similarly, the comparison between Todd not wanting to speak at all in the meetings, and then the deleted scene where he reads a poem after Mr Perry takes Neil away

✒️ Charlie not singing during Neil's assembly

✒️ Ave means farewell in literature, and Charlie closing his eyes when it's sang is beautiful

✒️ Charlie carries on smoking when Cameron's coming into the attic meeting - he either knows it's Cameron or doesn't care who tf catches him doing anything bad anymore

✒️ I don't think Cameron ever actually 'believed' in Mr Keating, definitely not to the extent the others did - he never called him captain, for example, except when he realised everyone else in the common room was, and air quotes the word 'captain' in the attic. So, it raises the question why he went along with everyone even so?

✒️ While I do somewhat sympathise with Cameron, that is one of the most satisfying punches in movie history

✒️ I think Todd's parents weren't that different from Neil's, Todd's dad is clearly very authoritarian from the minute or so he's on screen (and the fact that Todd signs the paper) and his Mom says nothing in his defense, but the way Todd mouths 'Mom' breaks my heart

✒️ In what universe does acting = what Neil did? All those theatre kids and their evil, satanic rituals, forcing our kids away from school 🙄 I hate you, Mr Perry and Mr Nolan

✒️ Todd's the last one to stand up when Nolan walks into Keating's classroom

✒️ Mr Nolan complimenting Mr Pritchard's introduction is so ridiculously funny to me considering what Keating made them do to it

✒️ Mr Keating's smile to Todd through the door in the classroom has the same energy as "All my love to you poppet. You're going to be alright."

In conclusion, I adore this film.

Robin Williams, O Captain, My Captain 🫡❤️

[captainwaffles]

Do you ever think Neil’s mom blames herself?

It’s 1959, she couldn’t talk against her husband, voice her concern. She probably saw how Mr. Perry was killing Neil.

The light fade from her little boys eyes. The secrecy’s he stopped sharing, his laughter missing.

I wonder if she wrote him secret letters, but Neil was always to scared to write back. Neil not wanting his father to know how much he hated it all, he didn’t want to be a disappointment

[sophiejanefostersilver]

I hate the fact that mr. Perry probably actually really loved neil

Like, whenever i wach the movie, i start crying when he finds neil, because he sound so shocked and broken

I dont think he even realised how horrible he was to him