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burned hand. whuh. I bet it hurt. and got burnt. anyway this isn't finished i am just Done With It
#the magnus archives#tma#jonathan sims#tma jonathan sims#jonathan sims tma#jude perry#tma jude perry#jude perry tma#my art#WBHAGH. drawing hurts again#but it doesnt feel like ants are crawling in my brain so tjats nice#anyway. take this. its not even close to finished i just cant stand to look at this anymore#gore#blood
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please think twice before you point out an innocuous mistake in someone’s art, you could end up ruining an entire piece they spent hours on for them.
#i know i shouldn’t still be upset bc the person said sorry and it’s been an entire year but uggghhhhhhh i cant even look at that drawing#-anymore bc my eyes just Zero In on that Mistake and a piece i spent 6? hours drawing and was proud of for maybe a grand total of 2? hours#-just makes me think about how much i hate my own work and leads me into the the untalented loser spiral my brain loves to go on#and i don’t Want to delete the piece bc i Did work hard on it but idk 😩#especially hurts since it was a stev/////atya piece and i make that shit FOR ME#ugh just needed to vent
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It *does* hurt that I got let go without any warning (even if I knew it was a possibility, especially since it's the slow season now and they're specifically replacing half of my department with other stuff) *because* I've been looking for other jobs with the plan to do a full two-weeks notice when I found one, and I've been secretly planning this entire time to eventually leave, making things as neat and easy as possible for whoever ends up overseeing my department. I didn't want any of the extra work to fall on my coworkers, the other department managers who have their own workloads. So it really sucks that higher-ups decided that I didn't deserve any warning, and neither did any of my teammates who will now have to pick up all the slack without any guidance from me.
#sorenhoots#it's fine. its fine! its just a liquor store.#stop worrying so much about it please brain PLEASE its fine. they're fine.#its fine it's fine its fine its just a liquor store.#yeah no one will care about my cusotmers and the store wont know to order the special orders anymore but its fine.#the customers will find their alcohol somewhere else or theyll find something different or just give up. it's fine. its just alcohol.#literally worst case scenario is that a customer cant get their favorite wine anymore which is FINE its not the end of the world#i know i put my heart into it and now i feel a little crushed but its fine... it'll be fine. i always knew it was a possibility.#wine departments are always the lowest income. beer and spirits always do better. wine departments always get the first budget cuts.#thats why they never actually gave me a manager salary or health insurance. they didnt want a wine manager. they just needed one until the#holiday season ended. my coworkers will be fine without me.#all the Chardonnay Bob stupidly bought will go on sale in 4-6 years or get thrown away in 8-10 and itll be FINE 💜 its not a big deal.#its not like i stopped Bob from wasting their money anyways. its not like i could. what good is a manager who cant even keep some stupid#fucker from wasting their money on shit thats going to gather dust for a decade and then get thrown out? maybe itll be liquidated if they#decide to stop carrying wine entirely. i couldnt even do my job because they put some idiot in a position above me who fucked up my shit all#the time so why wouldnt they get rid of me?#its fine its fine its fine its fine. ill be fine of course! there are other jobs here actually. ive been looking for a better job for a#while now and turned down some half-decent offers because i had a 3/4th decent job at the time. ill just pick one of the 1/2 decent ones now#and keep looking for something better too. im going to get back into science...!! thats what i really want.#im going to go back to the field i love. itll hurt even worse when the jobs are cruel and stupid but...i dont want anything else.#if im going to be subjected to the stupid-ass system of capitalism and heartless employers then im going to do it in science where i have a#deep and burning passion. ill...just need to try to thicken my skin to the inenvitable horrors of labor and being treated as a machine that#makes a CEO richer. but if im stuck spending my life making a CEO richer then i might as well try to find something i enjoy.
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i hate my stupid life everytime i look up did / osdd symptoms i have a LOT of them but if i get diagnosed what if my mother abuses me for it. she doesnt like when im mentally unwell. like really. really doesnt like. like threatens me when im unwell. what then. then ill like. die. THEN ITLL GET WORSE .
#im not saying “i googled did once and now i think i have it!” btw. i dont know if i have it#but my memory is FUCKED and i have alters and i keep feeling dissociated. i can barely feel my body evertyhing feels so numb#and this owrld barely feels real.#BUT ITS HARD TO TELL IF MY SYMTPOMS R BAD ENOUGH??#we mask SO much its not even funny i am constantly trying to control them lest we get UFCKING MURDERED BY MY 'MOTHER'#i think itd be ''severe'' if i didnt mask so much.#NOT OT MENTION I DONT KNOW IF MY TRAUMA IS BAD ENOUGH TO HAVE IT????#because i fucking forgot msost of it. but also cuz im not too affected by it anymore because its nto MY trauma. *i* didnt expereince it#and i feel like i experienced most of my trauma too late to have it???#i hate. my brain. just fuckig remmeber. idiot#this is stupid. im sure its nothing but idk anymore.#I CANT REMEMBER SHIT FROM PAST WHENIW AS . LIKE. 13-14 OR SO#SURELY SOMETHING HAPPENEDRIGHT??? why cant i remember#this is stupid i probably dont have it and just want attention. but i cant tell until i seek professional help for it#but the mental health specialists are out to get me. theyll hurt me i think.i cant trust anyone anymore#theres probablya reason its stopping me from remembering. i shouldnt look too far into it ...#ANWYAY I NEEDED TO GET THIS OUT SOMEHWERE....#sorry for the long text#tw abuse
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so frustrating when you wanna be someone's friend and they just are not cooperating. I'M INTERESTED IN YOU AS A PERSON. PLEASE INTERACT WITH ME.
#literally don't even care if you ever ask me anything about myself#i just wanna know about you#stop directing the conversation back to work please#we dont even work together anymore and somehow he still manages to always make the conversation about work#if i bring up something else by text he will literally ignore it and just answer the stuff about work#and on the phone he just manages to shut stuff down so quickly unless it's about work and then he has follow up questions and everything#and it's not that he wants me to go away because he's telling me to stay in touch and keep him updated#and that he'll send me links to help with getting a good phd and restaurant recommendations#and so WHY wont he talk to me about anything else#literally something as simple as how his weekend was#he wont tell me#he just blanks the question and asks about whatever work related thing i'm calling about#fucking frustrating man#i wanna hang out with yooouuuuuuu#tell me about your day please#he must just wanna keep our relationship very strictly professional but it's so odd to me to have the boundary be like this#to the extent of not even being replying when i ask how he is like that's insane#surely it's still within the realm of professional to ask how someone's weekend was#it's just hurting my brain because he seems to care about me so much in a work sense and is making sure that im doing what is best for me#and he looks out for me#so it cant be that he really dislikes me THAT much surely????
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#ive had such bad insomnia like cant sleep until 6 am for last few weeks#and have had intrusive thougbts so bad i csnt jusg lay here and try to sleep#and they get so awful and vivid i have to physically hurt myself to make fhem go away its so stupid#havent complained here in a while. sorry. ive hardly been onljne other than to post to my art blog#honestly ive been doing so awfully idk how to be online anymore. i come and look at pictures and then#im overhwlemed by guilt bc ibe been so distant from everyone. bc ive been mental lol#im so tired. all ive been doing is stitchinf to try and distract myself#tbh it helps because i focus on it and can just leave my brain emotionally#doesnt help because i technically have a commission deadline to meet in 2 days.#hope youre all doing well
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I am once again thinking about how accurate Fractured Ludger and that Fractured anthology Ludger are to Prime Ludger... Julius what do you want
#v#x2#lj#think i discussed this before with li but its like. such a fun angsty thing#bc the thing about the ludger we see in the game is that. hes in the game#he meets elle and jude and julius becomes a more distant thing he doesnt get to talk about much#(partially for plot contrivances unfortunately)#but julius just wants their pre-canon life back so there isnt any secret variation of ludger hes looking for#(i mean thats stated pretty implicitly both times)#BUT. that still isnt ludger as he is now. ludger cares for people who arent julius. and not to say that the route where julius dies means#ludger doesnt care for him. even to the end julius has to comfort and encourage him by bringing up elle#but you cant unring that bell and julius knows hes not the singular most important person in ludger’s life anymore#and frankly i just love the jealousy and drama of that even tho it also hurts a lot#hmmmm now im thinking of julius and his fractured ludger#literally a little brother created from his heart’s desires. a world that was made for him. makes my brain do blender noises.
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The bookmark tag was #holder until i think of a tag for these asks but To Be Real even I forgot what it was...
BUT YEAH thanks so much for reading and I'm glad it's :] Intelligible At Least :] obviously I would be up for reading anything that came to mind after putting you and your followers through All That but understandable... A lot of people I've shown the checklist items or pointed out specific behaviors to have actually said similar [i.e. I'm In This Picture And I Don't Like It], so I totally get what you mean, too!
I think a lot of my picks wound up being generalized trauma responses/aftereffects of abuse or neglect [hence I meandered off into just talking about Jo's father half the time], so I guess it's to be expected a lot of them don't read as being CSA-specific or are broadly relatable; it's not like he's supposed to be read that way, after all. I just wasn't able to zero in on many of the more specific ones because I've Never Seen Jo In This Situation Chief I Don't Know What He Thinks About His Name Or His Body Or Mirrors Or Sex Or Affection I Don't Know How Well Or Poorly He Sleeps [Presumably Poorly Though He Has The Second-Reddest Eyes In The Whole Game]
I don't really think I'll have anything to add though unless Infinite Wealth goes off the rails or I actually continue reading the book... so that will have to do... I originally was just riffing on RGGJo's attachment issues, self-destructiveness, and specific entwinement of sexuality/aggression/romance, and his portrayal in my fic lined up pretty closely, so I thought it'd be interesting to apply the same lens to Y7Jo...
But Yeah x2 thank you for the opportunity to talk about it and I'm Glad It's Intelligible At Least x2
THANK YOU i really should change that tag to something better... <- i will immediately forget to do so like a jackass
BUT YA OF COURSE OF COURSE i was truthful when i said it was a real good read (but once again. i have -5 speech skills so i can't properly word SHIT) and was a thorough examination of jo's trauma and how it manifests in him and how it's exhibited through his actions. ALWAYS a big fan of that :)
#snap chats#IN REGARDS TO Jo In Situations that is. VAGUELY my specialty#ive at least thought of jo's attitudes towards affection/relationships#and i Do Not Think he sleeps AS adequately as he should whether it's due to just. Overworking or#If I May Dare To Think he might be prone to night terrors#the Danger Zone of me thinking of Jo In Situations that dont have a lot of background is that i end up projecting a LOT of my issues LMAO#i dont know what it says about me when a lot of those issues seem to fit him#i do try my best NOT to over project of course i try to keep everyone relatively in the bounds of believability to their charas#which is why its funny when i do end up doin a lil projection it works out. Apparently#not sure i could do the same when it comes to jo's POV on his name and body tho. i hate those things bout myself for uh#VERY different reasons LMAOO tho i could imagine jo harboring some feelings of. hm. whats the word.#not Total Disgust But Some and Some Agitation whenever he has to acknowledge he exists outside of being a tool. To Put It Bluntly#cause we know he sees himself as a tool in some aspects- a bullet more specifically. so i can imagine instances where he has to Be A Human#its just. Ew Whats That LMAO YK WHAT I MEAN i do. i know what i mean. mirrors are evil#SORRY IM RAMBLING i shouldnt be.. i got gameritis <- i fucked up my wrists playing sonic riders somehow and it hurts to move#point is i very much enjoy thinking of jo and i enjoy looking at him through a multitude of lenses so AGAIN#thank you much for writing in :] im sorry i have three jewel beetles and a cicada shell for a brain#i am always interested in reading what you have to say tho... cant stress that enough..#truly curious for how jo will be in infinite wealth now that he Doesnt have to be a bullet anymore. what are you like my guy.. lemme see..#now pardon me while i fuck up my wrists more. i do not want to do my job today (i will soon im just delaying the inevitable. as a treat)
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ive had a migraine since mid january. just kill me, it would be a mercy at this point
#txt#turns out theyre more chronic than i realized....#ie. thats what my ''daily/constant headaches'' are. ive realized#my eyes hurt so bad. it hurts to think. and i need to stay caught up with my fucking. classes.#im barely managing that and im losing my goddamn mind. im so fucking tired#i just want it to stop hurting. i want the panic attacks and nightmares to stop#but nothing works and now trying to distract myself physically hurts too much. all i can do is sit in the dark and think#can my glasses just fucking get here already. bc the prisms fixing my double-vision issue would be extremely helpful for the eye strain pain#at least then i could do something abt the suffocating loneliness. not being able to think or look at acreens for too long makes it hard to#-reach out. and my migraines are so painful and go long enough that they kick up a lot of suicidal ideation#bc i just get so fucking desperate for the pain in/around my eyes to stop (still havent found a med thaf stops my migraine pain)#i also lost like 20lbs but i cant. fuckin deal with that now ill get worried if it keeps dropping#(not in a single month it had been like 6mo since i last checked b4 that)#my pain already fucks up my appetite. migraine on top of that has completely fucked up my eating. i stopped drinking coffee#bc i just feel too awful in the mornings when i wake up to stomach it anymore#every fucking morning starts with a panic attack i wake up into#i cant remember the last time i had a good day pain-wise#migraines give me time to Ruminate which is exactly what im trying to train my brain to stop doing. im in hell#vent -#weight mention in tags -
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#genuinely though i think i need to try and get (back) on medication for my chronic pain#the only reaso. i didnt when it was offered is bc the trwatment they wnated to use involved and ssri and i cant be#on an ssri without being on a mood stabilizer unless we want me to go into a mania#and the last time i was on a mood stabilizer i lost 15% of my body weight bc of how sick it made me and my gastrointestinal tract still#hasnt recovered from that even though its been 7 years atleast at this point#and 15% of your body mass is alot to fucking lose when you only weigh 112 pounds in the first place#ive also STILL not gained that weight back btw#i only weigh like 105#i feel like i look like a fucking victorian waif who needs to be sent to the seaside for their health#but atleast i dont weight 98 pounds anymore bc that was really scary actually#also and the main point of this all is that if i dont do something im going A flunk out of grad school and B possibly killmyself#bc my mental health is actially so bad right now. my suicidal ideation is the worst its been since my early 20s#lile there is a part of my brain that actively wants to die bc then everything would stop hurting and bc im so tired and i just want to rest#but also i dont want to die actually im just tired and afraid#but my brain is trying to kill me#and ive had the strong urge to start self harming again after being clean of it again since my early 20s#like ive caught myself ruminating on it on how much i want it#both selfharm and death and thats so fucking scary bc ive fought so hard to not do either of those things#ive been clean of self harm since i was 21 thats 7 years and the last time i caught myself actively thinking about sucide or selfharm#was in 2020 during covid lockdown bc i was fucking trapped in a house with my ex who didnt give a shit about my psychosis or its triggers#or even my life apparently bc i begged him to lock up his guns during one of the worst episodes i had during lockdown bc my brain was#telling me to kill myself and he didnt just moved them to a shelf kinda out of the way but still easily accessible
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oh good late night wembley sadness nice
#im like. so aware of the fact that theres absolutely no way in hell at this point anymore that im going#but its not making it much easier when im seeing so many other people planning things and ough#especially now that its looking actually possible that this'll be kips year in the card. and of course im missing it#its okay im only crying a little bit. i just know its not in any way possible for me anymore so its like#you'd think my brain accepts it but lmao depression and all that#i hate feeling this way. i cant help it. i just hate that im missing out on everything every time#im just gonna try to focus on bracelets tonight. and even then its like. i cant give these out in person cause im going so lmao#maybe one day. probably not. im just eternally stupid hopeful and it hurts every time#night is an absolute mess on main
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#genuinely considering just givinf up on sleep.#i might try resting but im on day 2 of lots of pain and at this point i think id rather distract myself instead of laying in bed#i did that last night and it made my brain very not happy#but i know that youre supposed to and senshi would be unhappy but damn mother nature got hands#i need my brain to chill out too nothing is working anymore not even my edibles#its so late my aunt across the country is sending me her good morning pics#im so glad she does her home looks so pretty right now because its been raining every week at minimum there#meanwhile its hot and miserable here and i cant go swimming because theres lead in tampons#jo babbles#ill go to sleep my husband would scoop me up and gently bully me if i didnt and im not letting him hurt his back#because my brain is messed up
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...I'm not as sad as I probably should be.
It hurts, its understandable, but it's resignation too.
I won't cry over it.
I'll just accept what I'm dealt and move on.
That's all I can do.
#vent in tags#it was always going to happen. the degredation was always there and it just crumbled silently away.#losing friends always sucks. it sucks more when you know its both of your faults.#lost a couple of good friends today. not dead but we just couldnt deal with each other anymore.#i cannot forgive or forget and maybe thats just part of why it had to happen. i tried to forgive but i couldnt.#it was always in the back of my mind you know? that i hated it. i hated it so much. i couldnt hate you- but i just couldnt let go either.#and maybe that suppressed spite and rage made it all worse. and maybe i was never going to let go. and maybe i still felt so so alone.#and maybe you did what was best for you but it hurt me so badly that my brain scarred deeply and we couldnt recover.#it was always going to crumble and break. we couldnt handle it. we just held on in desperation until we all broke.#and my resentment spilled to the both of you. and my spite and rage killed us all. and im sorry i dragged you all under.#maybe one day we'll be better people. older. wiser. stronger.#but ive always always always felt so alone in the aftermath and it just didnt help. so i cant forgive it. not yet. maybe not ever.#i love you but you hurt me. you hurt me so so so badly. and maybe i hurt you just as badly back in retaliation without thinking.#we tore each other apart and the sorry's we said were paper bandaids. it was inevitable. it was a doomed narrative and we the players.#i am sorry. i am so sorry. i will grieve you and miss you but i will not reach out to you anymore. ill leave you alone.#just promise me you'll look after each other the way you always have.#at least in that i know you're loved still.
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#My heart is difficult and my brain is broken but I still move forward until I can stand on my own...#personal#when the bipolar jumps out i stand my ground#when the depression seeps further i dont move#when the soul screams. I hold it#i hold her... i hold her tightly.#she used to be much harder to hold#but#... she knows the damaged she'll do when... under that pressure. when the voices win.#the voices will never win.#... it always sounds tempting to self destruct#...#but im only 26 so i cant destroy my life yet. i have so much to live for and to look forward to#thats what i tell her#when it looks grim i just wait till it doesnt anymore#... it hurts#but pain is a form of growing#and maybe one day it wont hurt anymore.#or not and i have to live with that#live with the fact that there is no cure for My emotions. my feelings.#they hurt me. they exist too much. they are nonsensical. they kill me.#.eh i take it when it comes.#can you tell i just had an episode#im talking as if ive made a new revelation on my life#thats the power of mental illness. the cycles i go through#the downs and the ups and the reinforcement.#...makes no goddamn sense dont it lmfao
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Agreed! I am def taking some liberties by assuming a detail-oriented intentionality that I cannot be sure was present here (no shade to the creators of the film, they had a lot to balance and squeeze in and I can't say I would've done any better), but given how little they gave Vanessa/Morena Baccarin to do in the script I think she gave a lot of depth to the character! It's easy to brush her off as incidental or unimportant or underwritten (I know I did the first couple watch throughs since the Vanessa stuff felt kinda shoehorned in and forced, especially without having recently seen the first two movies) but given the context of dp1 and 2, I think they did a good job of giving us just enough to make it make narrative sense in a background arc way that didn't detract from the larger story.
I have been looking for the screenshot from the memory when she says "your crazy matches my crazy" because the more I think about it the more gutted I am by her delivery. (EDIT: shoutout to my pal @gossippool for sending this along! god I'm about to cry she looks so broken) She's clearly on the verge of tears - she LOVES him, she MISSES him, she can't even begin to grasp what has changed in him and she doesn't know what to do about it except to say "I love you" in their specific sweet way that harkens back to the beginning, but in that moment I think you can see that she realizes it's not enough. And damn, if that doesn't hit hard. Because sometimes you love someone so so much and it isn't enough.
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It also makes me wonder when that memory took place, because I think it could have been the actual moment they broke up. We don't see the actual way the memory ended after all. If Cassandra was able to grab that memory immediately out of all of Wade's memories, it must have been an important moment to him so it makes me think that was the catalyst for them finally breaking up, hence why she picks it out of all the memories he has of Vanessa. And that scene does a very good job of encapsulating how much Vanessa loves him and wants to help him, makes it feel like she's been reaching out to him for ages trying to bring him back to her. It's gut-wrenching honestly the more I think about it, especially when you consider that his last thought before he thinks he's about to be torn apart atom by atom is "I want to see Vanessa". I feel like in that moment he really realizes what she wanted from him, and why he wasn't able to give it to her, and that he would save the universe for her anyway because he would do anything for her, even if they've grown apart and can't be together anymore. She still gave his life meaning when he had no one, she still stuck with him when he had cancer, she stayed with him and wanted to have a family even after he got his powers, and for better or for worse he became Deadpool *because* he couldn't bear to die and leave her.
Which is why right after he has that thought he turns to look at Logan. I think in that moment he does begin to realize the real weight of the sacrifice they are both making, and that that's what matters - not being an Avenger, not getting revenge, not getting the girl, not saving the world, not even proving that you matter. Underneath all the jokes and all the pain, what matters is loving and being loved, even though it hurts and can end at any time, it's still worth it.
idk sorry just so many big feelings about this movie at all times bursting out of me
Okay bear with me folks, I have some ~thoughts~ about the Vanessa/Wade relationship (or frankly lack thereof) in Deadpool & Wolverine. I should start by saying that I am analyzing this with the (likely erroneous) assumption that everything on screen is 100% intentional and mindfully written to deepen the characters and inform their arcs. For the record, I don't necessarily believe that's true - there is certainly room for mistakes, lazy writing, confusing plot elements, or in this case, sidelining a potentially strong and important character for nebulous reasons (I'm guessing scheduling conflicts + run time concerns + actor's strike complications but idk for sure). (Also thanks to @gossippool and @kendyroy for encouraging me to post my thoughts instead of just rambling in the tags in the first place, y'all are the realest)
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Now, granted, it has been a while since I watched the original Deadpool so I am not as well-versed in their early relationship as I am in the handful of scenes Morena Baccarin has in dp3, but I do think it is pretty canon that Wade generally struggles to express his deeper worries and feelings (without filtering it heavily through crude humor, sex, and pop culture references of course), especially after the events of dp1 and the physical and mental damage he sustains, and Vanessa is frankly no exception despite how much he cares for her. The entire first movie hinges on the fact that he doesn't really believe she could love him in his post-Francis mangled state, which is pretty contrived imp given that the film has established already how bonded they are, and she doesn't strike me as being written to be so shallow as to reject him based on a physical deformity. I mean iirc she wanted to stick around through chemo despite him being literally riddled with inoperable cancer, so she clearly is in it for the long haul (at least in dp1), messiness and all.
Now, in dp2, obviously she is shot and killed early in the film, and Wade spends much of the rest of the film wallowing in his very profound grief over losing her. He goes to prison, he basically gives up on life and seems very resigned to dying once he has the power suppressant collar on, almost excited to do so so he can be reunited with her. She is mostly sidelined as a Fuzzy Dead Wife trope basically, but the important thing here is that he spends weeks if not months in the throes of despair over losing the love of his life just as they were trying to start a family.
Now, my first couple times watching dp3 I was frustrated by the kinda trite narrative presented in the interview scene towards the beginning - specifically Wade's whole "my girl is getting tired of my shtick and I need to show her I matter". It felt contrived and disingenuous, and I just brushed it off as iffy writing, a means to an end, but the more I reflect upon it the more I think it is based in an emotional reality that is just handled very lightly by the film in favor of fanservice and Poolverine content (NOT that I'm complaining in the slightest - I think this movie is a masterpiece in many ways, albeit a flawed one but that's beside the point here).
Basically, I think the combination of what happened to him in dp1 (the brain damage, the trauma, the awareness of the fourth wall, etc) followed by the events of dp2 (Vanessa's death, his grief and the associated guilt and trauma of being the direct cause of her death) lead to an unbridgeable emotional gap between the two of them that ultimately leads to their breakup.
It's important to note that Vanessa doesn't have any recollection of dying I don't think, and of course cannot fully fathom what Wade went through grieving her and their life together and their potential family for however long he spent between her death and bringing her back with Cable's device.
The one scene we really see from their relationship between dp2 and dp3 is the one where Cassandra mind-gropes Wade in the Void and we see Vanessa struggling to reach Wade across this aforementioned gap - she wants him to open up, she wants him to share what he's going through, she wants him to be the person she initially fell in love with. But not only does he not understand what she's really asking for (he responds in such a way that makes me think he has unprocessed issues that are only tangentially related to what she's saying - ie the stuff about mattering, about asking her if she even wants to be with him, etc). And he's not the Wade Wilson she met anymore. He watched her die and grieved her and brought her back believing it would make everything go back to normal, but he has been fundamentally changed in a way that she can't grasp, even if he was good at externally processing honestly and openly without the artifice of wry jokes. She didn't "come back wrong" - instead, she came back exactly the same as before but he's different now.
It's an interesting scene because it's obviously a memory, but you can see how Wade is misunderstanding what she's saying - he takes away that she thinks he doesn't matter (even though like he says she didn't actually say that, but I don't think Cassandra invented that wholecloth - I think she pulled it out of his psyche because that's what he believes deep down), he takes away that she doesn't want to be with him, that she thinks he's nothing. Which would be frustrating to witness as a pretty simple misunderstanding, but it feels believable to me that these two people who have shared a great love would be fundamentally separated by unimaginable, cosmic trauma. It was one thing when they had shared trauma like violence and SA in dp1, but what Wade has gone through in dp1 and dp2, humor aside, is unfathomably traumatic, brain-breakingly so even.
I think off-screen Vanessa probably really tried to reach him, maybe for years, trying to get her Wade back, but that Wade is gone and he struggled to express that to her until eventually he started to feel rejected because he couldn't express his trauma or how much he has changed. The truth is, he WANTS to be that Wade again, for her and for himself, but that Wade died when she died. Or maybe he had already started dying when Francis got a hold of him in dp1.
Anyway, all this is to say, I think Morena Baccarin was criminally underutilized in dp2 and dp3, but I think there is a strong argument to be made for the believability of their breakup. I think even relationships built on enormous love can crumble due to trauma, and what Wade suffers over these movies is enormous. It's especially heartbreaking that he blames himself for their relationship ending, talks like she just got tired of him, thought he didn't matter, whatever. But it is a credit to him that he never seems to feel anger towards her about it. He doesn't seem to feel entitled to her, though he longs for her and what they had and what she represented (hope, love, a future, a family), but ultimately she becomes more of a symbol of what he lost when he gained his powers, because let's be super fr right now - even if they had succeeded in having a baby, not only would they have lived in fear of her or the kid getting killed, but ultimately Wade would likely outlive both of them. The moment he gained his powers he was already starting to lose her, which is heartbreaking because she was the only reason he opted for the treatment in the first place - so he could stay with her.
I think a big part of Deadpool & Wolverine is watching Wade continue to process his own motivations (vis-a-vis Vanessa but also his other friends) and how he does eventually let go of the idea of "mattering" in favor of just saving the people he cares about (*cough* and being saved right back *cough* by Wolvie, as the final line and shot implies). And in the process he finds someone new who cares about him, who thinks he matters, who tries to sacrifice himself for him and his friends, who comes home with him at the end of the movie, who has also experienced unimaginable grief and trauma, who not only matches his crazy but matches his FREAK and also cannot be randomly killed by a stray bullet.
Idk if any of this makes much sense but I do think if you read between the lines and consider the potency of trauma and grief at play here, Vanessa and Wade's off-screen breakup is actually pretty realistic, and really heart-breaking to boot.
You can tell she still cares about him in so many ways - she shows up for his birthday party, she shows up to his party at the end, she finds excuses for physical contact multiple times, her eyes get soft when she looks at him, but there is a distance there that Morena Baccarin does an incredible job of portraying. She cares about him deeply, she has mourned the loss of their potential life together, but she wants him in her life even though she's moving on because she realizes he's gone somewhere she can't follow (literally and figuratively).
Anyway. Poolverine forever. Nothing against Vanessa but I think their relationship was sadly doomed from the start because Wade becomes this traumatized superhuman and Vanessa would always be at risk but also always on the outside of his multiverse superhero experiences. I think it's weirdly beautiful, even if I am filling in a lot of gaps and giving the writers maybe undue credit.
Anyway... thoughts? Please DM me or write in the tags. I am feral about this movie and just want to talk about it with anyone haha. If you have further insight into these characters too I'd love to hear it - I am by no means an expert in these movies or characters!
#idk my first few watches I was really dismissive of her#and then my intersectional feminist brain tried to kick in like HEY#dont just hate on a key female character#so I decided to try to dig deeper into it and I found so much there!#it's a credit to Morena Baccarin I'll say it again and again#it's easy to ignore her in this movie since her moments are so brief#but I think if you pay attention to them she puts a lot of heart into just a few lines#like I feel like you can tell she thought through even these brief character beats and acted the hell out of them#she is trying to keep emotional distance from wade because she doesn't want to hurt him anymore#and she probably felt she was doing more harm than good by trying to force him back to being someone he cant be anymore#gah#poolverine#vanessa#deadpool and wolverine#THOUGHTS AND MORE THOUGHTS#gah I will never shut up about this movie I fear#wade wilson#vanessa carlysle#edit just added pics of her in the memory and omg I'm gonna CRY#she looks so devastated to be letting him go#god sometimes love really isnt enough is it 😭 sometimes you love someone so much and they go where you can't follow#fuck#breaking my own heart over here dont mind me#deadpool meta#deadpool#deadpool 3
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I should be asleep but this is consuming me.
So have this poorly thought out fic drabble idea of mine:
Prowl is in pain, hurt and agony, physically and emotionally. He shouldn't have let Jazz convince him, he should have listened to that tingly uncertain feeling on his spark about this
But dammit was Jazz so...so convincing. It pained him to realise how much he wanted to trust the organic.
What didn't help was that bastard in front of him giving him mock grief. Prowl knew he did not care at all about how he feels, he knew there was some sort of sick enjoyment to all of this.
"Sorry, he couldn't come visit again. He actually had to help out with the newest mech, in fact, this prototype had one of your own parts in it!" Prowl wanted to sob, twisted asshole.
Suddenly, something seemed to have caught the organic's attention. Prowl didn't hear it at first, but once the man in front of him turned around in confusion, he heard it, there was some sort of commotion on the other side of the door.
Suddenly, before any of them could question what was going on, the doors burst out open with an explosion, causing many tools to clatter to the ground as the ground shook.
"GET AWAY FROM MY PARTNER!" Prowl, in a weak yet desperate attempt, turned his head to look at the direction of the voice. He recognised it-
"Jazz?" He spoke weakly. That seemed to have crushed the organic's soul, his face crumbling from his previous rage, before, in a blink of an eye, it turned back to fury. Fury so strong it could kill whoever dared look.
"Jazz?!" The twisted man standing in front of Prowl's face looked offended if not straight out annoyed at the other's presence. "What are you-?" He couldn't even finish his sentence before the other dropped whatever it was he had been holding and jumped on top of him. The two fought for a while, Jazz punching the guy a few times on the face before grabbing him by the neck of his shirt and throwing him to the other side of the room.
Jazz huffed, making sure to keep his eyes on his target for a second to see if that was enough to have knocked him out. It was. And once he was sure the guy wouldn't come back at him, he turned to look at Prowl, who so far, has only made move to watch the whole thing go down.
It took a while for the mech to properly process how Jazz looked, how he looked at him. Guilt, pain, sadness, exasperation even. It almost seemed like he was...crying?
"Prowl!" His partner? Ex-partner? (He wasn't sure anymore), ran to grasp his face, and he let him, to weak to fight back like he wanted to. Then he felt it, small droplets of water fall down his faceplates, 'Oh, so he was crying'. "I'm so sorry, i shouldn't have brought you here- we, we need to get you out-" as he moved, Prowl took notice of how dishevelled the other looked, the sudden smell of iron making him realise that he seemed to be covered in blood, if it was his own or not, Prowl wasn't sure, perhaps it was both. Taking a closer look, he started to notice all the small bruises and scratches on Jazz's face, in fact he took notice of a limp on his left leg too.
The other just seemed to be mumbling to himself as he tried to free Prowl, who so far has not spoken all that much, he felt too weak and tired, and he really had nothing to say other than a simple reply to what Jazz said before but he didn’t process it till now
"You really shouldn't have..."
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Ok that's all i have rn, bc I'm not much of a writer and idk how to write these characters so they might be a bit OOC sorry ^^;;
But feel free to like add and/or fix anything to this.
Just wanna add the note that maybe, the reason Jazz found out is bc he recognised Prowl's plating on the new mech thing they built ;)
OH MY GOD I CANT EVEN
RAAAAHHHHHHHHHH THIS IS. OH FUCK. THI s. SO GOOD AND PAINFUL IM ASCENDING TO SOME NEW UNDISCOVERED DIMENSIONS
ALSO. oh my fucking god you have galaxy brain for this. imagine the horror Jazz feels when he sees this random new robot his boss wants to test. And it’s plating is so freaking familiar. He runs his hands along the panels. And he recognises them, even repainted. Because he spent so much time sitting on them, repairing them, crawling on them with his magnets. Sleeping on them even. He sees the “scar” from the time he helped Prowl to fix his armor and welded some cracks in it.
And now the fucking plates are here but Prowl isn’t.
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