#how i imagine the end of the movie
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Trying to do a quick doodle of the Pegasis boy and the Sun guy from memory but still ended up with the references oof-
This ship got me so delulu even now I just have to get them out of my system.
#GinHelios#helios beyblade#washiart#mfb#metal fight beyblade the movie#how i imagine the end of the movie#you don't get a universal level thr//eat every of often#i think Gingka can give Ryusei a stroke with this#guy who can calls upon natural disasters? fine to him#but a guy who has almost get earth into another ice age? lmao#this is about Helios bring a bf#washi rambling#*being#i cant spell when im sleepy
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The Council of Optimuses: Pleasant, generally positive, they exiled Bayverse a while ago but they still check in once in a while to make sure he's ok/out of curiosity, Earthspark enables One's 'I can fix him' delusion to the point that Prime is falling into it too, IDW does NOT want to add to the delusion pile so he shuts up, Cyberverse kinda doesn't want to be at this meeting it feels too much like a party, IDW keeps making calls to somebody but he won't tell anyone who, they used to have 'bring your Bumblebee to work day' but Skybound had a breakdown over it so they can't do that anymore, everybody is suspicious of Skybound's new arm but the only person who actually brought it up was Bayverse whose solution was 'kill him' so now everybody thinks they are getting paranoid and should maybe start seeing a therapist (they should start seeing therapists, but they ARE right about the arm).
The Council of Megatrons: They are having a great time even if it looks horrible from the outside looking in, Prime constantly wants to fight IDW for his spot as the strongest Megatron but IDW is not about that, they tried to kick out Earthspark but he somehow keeps getting in (IDW leaves the door open), One has like 5 devils on his shoulder telling him to escalate and two fallen angels who are desperately trying to get across that maybe total destruction isn't the move, IDW is trying to hide his redemption arc in order to keep the situation under control (only Earthspark is aware of it, though Skybound has his suspicions), Cyberverse always tries to kill the others to take over their universes and it's the highlight of everybody's month, Bayverse is mocked for being killed by Optimus but secretly everybody is kinda jealous about it (Prime especially), one time an unidentified Starscream (it was Animated) broke in and it was on sight (he got away because every Megatron wanted to be the one who killed him and they fought each other over it), IDW keeps taking calls from somebody but he won't tell anyone who, Skybound can listen in on his Optimus's meetings due to being his arm and reports back, there is an ongoing debate about whether Galvatrons should be included.
Inspired by @jyang030107 's art of ES and IDW Megs advising their One counterpart.
#optimus prime#megatron#tf one#tf prime#tf cyberverse#tf idw#tf earthspark#tf bayverse#tf skybound#animated and G1 cartoon are my main blindspots so I didn't include them here#can you tell which one of these is my favorite based on how often I brought up their versions relative to the others?#I do genuinely like all of these interpretations for varying reasons but idk man I love comics so much#though I do only like Bayverse Optimus because I'm imagining every other Optimus just being genuinely upset at his existence#'GIVE ME YOUR FACE' 'or maybe we could just talk to him? or kill him normally?' '*fast forward one movie* 'hey megatron was just saying#that he wants a truce!! How lucky!! that's further than most of us have gotten on the path to peace!! what are you gonna...#...you're just gonna kill him? and then kill Sentinel as he begs for his life? when you could have ended this peacefully? what?'#he's uninvited from meetings but sometimes he shows up anyways and the others just get so curious#'what has he done this time?' 'I heard him say that he swore to never kill humans.' 'That's progress!'#*one meeting later* 'ok so you know how he just swore to never kill humans? he just killed a human.' '...what is wrong with him?'#meanwhile Bayverse Megatron fits right in with the others. I like him less by virtue of the movies he's in but he's still like#recognizably Megatron and not so ooc that it makes me bust out laughing during serious moments. he's a fairly standard Megatron.
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I'm not getting into The Giving Tree discourse...
#personal#delete later#idk i just saw a post of the “alternate ending” comic on my dash and everyone praising it as an improvement and “fixing” the original#which i kinda resent#while tulli and i was taking my nephew to a book store we walked around the kids section and found the giving tree and we read through it#and i was so stricken by how profoundly sad it is. it's not a happy story#in the end both versions tell the exact same lesson. but one flat out tells you and the other makes you sit with a pit in your stomach#and work to find the answer#i dunno it's kids literature but kids literature is important. i don't wanna discredit anyone's bad memories with the book but also i think#sometimes it's ok to make kids a bit sad and upset with fiction.#tweet that goes “what if romeo and juliet didn't kill themselves and explained to the audience that family feuds are bad”#idk you can't seriously read the original book as an adult and say it's glorifying self-martyrdom#when the final drawing of the book is of an old tired man sitting on arotting stump with his hat fallen to the ground#again i don't wanna invalidate people's feelings if they enjoy the alt version i think it's really nice too. but the original has its#purpose too. imagine if at the end of the lorax they show that the boy did it and replanted the world happy ending#wait they did that in the movie shit#i dunno i just love somber children's literature. tulli and i are talking about moomin right now and how the series ends with the moomin#family just leaving. and nobody gets to say goodbye to them. their friends have to find ways to live with the emptiness they've left behin
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Not thinking about how while Sonic and Knuckles are worried about Tom and keep looking at him and Maddie concerningly as they take him to the hospital Tails just keeps glancing at Sonic because the little guy just knew that his big bro was absolutely wrecked and wanted to be there to comfort him
#Sonic has this guilt in his face and Knuckles keeps looking down as if in shame (maybe cause he couldn't protect his tribe)#but Tails? Tails just wanted to comfort his brother#sonic the hedgehog#miles tails prower#knuckles the echidna#little guy just wanted to make sure that Sonic was okay and what did he get?#the last interaction he had with him before he left them was Sonic yelling at him and breaking the image the kit had on their relationship#“i thought we were a team”#“i thought that was what made us special”#and the fact that Sonic IGNORED HIM after he said that and didn’t talk to him again til almost the end of the movie#aaaaugh this hurts#read myymis fic last night and damn i was also thinking about how Knuckles qas left to pick up the pieces of what Sonic broke#i can imagine him trying to comfort the little guy knowing that Sonic wasn't thinking clearly and didn’t intend to hurt him#but still being mad at him because hell he felt so betrayed auuugh#sonic movie 3#sonic 3 spoilers#sonic movie 3 spoilers
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[ cw: death mention / family death mention / ]
Mhmm I sure love thinking of the reality where we did get more time to really know Karai and her dynamics with the bros. Losing her hit hard in the finale, but it would’ve hit much, much harder had we known Karai longer and really saw her relationships develop with everyone.
I especially would have been interested in her dynamic with Leo, as past iterations often have the two of them clash in ideals and the like while still sharing many characteristics. Two sides of the same coin, and all that. Her specifically being the bros’ Gram-Gram also adds a whole new dynamic as well.
Imagine how interesting it would be, to have Karai start off on Leo’s side for once, showing wholly just how alike the two are at their cores and bonding as family without the worry of betrayal or animosity that other iterations suffer through, only to have Karai die anyway. Their parting hug and the desperate look of horror Leo wears later on would have hit that much harder, I feel.
#rottmnt#rise of the teenage mutant ninja turtles#rise of the tmnt#rise karai#rise leo#rottmnt karai#rottmnt leo#I think a lot about these two in particular#and how that dynamic could have flourished#the way it was depicted in the finale is so purposefully unique and painful like#that hug man#can you imagine how much more heartbreaking that would have been if we knew her longer#not that it wasn’t already sad but we just simply didn’t know her long enough to be completely attached#also imo having more episodes with her and in general would have presented something I’ve been thinking about since the finale#so like - I like to think each bro kinda immediately leans more toward certain family members#Mikey has Draxum#Donnie has April#Raph has Splinter because this is another one that would be SO GOOD and make the finale moment where Raph sees his memories hit harder#if they had an ep or two more of Splinter and Raph together bc I really do feel like Raph respects Splinter most of the four#and finally- Leo has Karai#and then he loses her#imo? this would align with the movie even more#because it was the act of heroism that kinda killed her in a way - makes sense that Leo would initially be leaning away from that#and yet he ends up exactly like her anyway#haha sorry for rambling I just really love the interesting dynamic these two tend to have#and it’s a shame we didn’t get to see it really explored in rise#but yeah make no mistake while I’m focusing on Leo here I wanted more for all the boys and karai#Mikey’s little moments with her were so sweet and we already know how much he yearns for more family#Karai being from an age long gone would mean she’d be super impressed by literally any invention Donnie has (adult validation!!)#and could you imagine her training with Raph - with this training being referenced in the finale?
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"Allies should be okay with hearing hard truths that we have been suffering through for years, because if a child has to experience it, they as an adult can take the time to understand it with their adult brain and their adult emotions, and if they cannot handle that, I shouldn't have to be okay with handling their feelings gently."
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"Sometimes we go too hard on allies because they're the only person who benefits from the problem who will listen to us, and the anger that we have carried from being wronged for years should not be put solely put on the shoulders of people trying to help us, and they should not have to be okay with being mistreated with the same hatred that people have aimed at us."
Can and should coexist actually.
#cat chats#it's all about context#if someone you care about makes an insensitive joke about your experience#you should be able to tell them it's not okay and they should be able to be like 'sorry i'll do better'#but if all the butt of your jokes are about their experience being a majority#and they say 'hey this is starting to get heavy'#and your response is 'well you can just deal with it because i have to deal with people who are like you every day'#or 'well obviously i'm not talking about you because you're one of the good ones' when you openly condemn people like them#maybe take a step back friend#some jokes are better between people with your lived experiences especially when you're venting frustrations#i don't expect my allo friends to listen to all my aroace jokes about allo people because some of them only hit right with aroace people#especially the 'imagine having to have sex to feel human' or 'nobody knows how to be friends anymore they gotta make it weird' jokes#but they should absolutely acknowledge that american society is designed for people in a relationship with two incomes#and people aren't looking for an end all situationship where they're both friends chilling in an apartment together with no romance or sex#because god forbid we touch each other platonically in any way or people will think we're dating and in love#or how most of american society views that you can't just be friends with someone once you fall in love with them because it's not the same#or how once you're in a relationship everyone else in the world shouldn't matter more than your partner or you're 'emotionally cheating'#and most movie plots that are like 'i don't do romance' always end up with someone softening their heart and giving them a romantic subplot#or that people can't have sex and have it mean nothing it always has to be a romantic thing#like tell them how it is but don't make them your punching bag ya know?
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Watched yesterday the TF ONE finally. Glad to say i'll never recover from it :]
#transformers#maccadam#transformers one#transformers megatron#transformers d16#megatron#d 16#the way even my family who only know transformers from the live action movies and nothing else#yet they were also shocked with the ending#i was literally with goosebumps everytime d16 started losing himself into becoming megatron#im PRAYING the movie does well in the box office cause i NEED MORE NOW!!!#but seriously like imaginr the second movie: obviously it'll be the rise of the war#its obvious optimus and megatron will become more like the versions of themselves we know but also watching megatron become more evil!!#i have GOT to see him become the evil leader he is! i've GOT to see how he drives the decepticon cause away from its original goal!!#clearly him being given power is already corruptive to him enough#so imagine when he gains more!!!
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There's a meme going around to draw your comfort characters as the Steven meme.
Bowser's never been a comfort character for me, but thinking about how great an Illumination Smash Bros movie would be with these two having the dumbest greatest villain team dynamic has brought me SO much joy this year.
#ganondorf#bowser#I spammed chat about it once I have a VISION#Gan's so manipulative and Bowser's so stupid like let me do OoT Ganon + Bowser Villain Dynamic Duo for an Illumination Smash movie#after letting me establish Gan as a bastard cat in an illumination OoT movie obvs#Just please please PLEASE imagine Ganondorf trying to teach Bowser how to impress a woman with like. Common Courtesy.#Mario's training montage except it's Bowser getting Miss Congeniality'd by Hyrule's Most Wanted Diabolical Mastermind#and it's not even about how to be a good villain it's literally just how not to immediately fuck up with a girl you like#with gan becoming increasingly exhausted and bowser trying SO hard and Kamek being SO jealous Bowser has a new sorcerer bestie#who is very obviously using him and will throw him away by the end of the film -- leading to Peach genuinely sympathizing#until Bowser immediately fucks it up but in a less egregious way because he's trying and that's what matters kind of#AMA I have this whole plot in my brain aklsjdfa
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the POTENTIAL this duo had
platonic or not, they would have loved each other
#eachtime I rewatch The lego movie 2 I get reminded of how easily the movie just got over Rex's death and it fills me with so much anguish#like what do you mean#one of the most important character dies and you give Emmet and Lucy a second to ponder before they move on like nothing happened#yeah lets just ignore how Emmet would be mentally impacted by the sheer sight of it and the knowledge that Rex tried to manipulate him#Rex was selfish but that man was stranded for five years left to fend for himself#nothing but a broken man was left of him when he was forced to accept his friends would never come rescue him#and that hurts even more when you realize HE risked his life to save his friends just to be forced to watch them party while he suffered#AND then Emmet gets rescued by his friends like Rex hoped it would happen for him Aahagagshdh THE PAIN IT BRINGS ME GOD#if Rex didn't fear the chance that he would die if Emmet didn't turn out like him the ending would have played out a lot different#Rex apologizer here I will hear your complaints of my view but you cant convince me Rex isnt just a broken man that got blinded my anger#I could write an essay about this movie#minifigs need a person in order to keep them 'alive' - if we are talking in lego logic#now imagine Rex being kept alive by hope only for it to slowly get replaced by anger and betrayal when hope died out#Why use the notes app when you can ramble in the tags#Ey if you made this far you earned yourself a medal#rex dangervest#emmet brickowski#rex x emmet#rexmet#remmet#remmex#vestcest#the lego movie 2#the lego movie#fanart
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FINISHED WATCHING MHA MOVIE 2: HEROES RISING!!! SPOILERS AHEAD IF YOU HAVENT WATCHED IT
OH MY FUCKING GOD THIS WAS SO GOOD YO HOLY FUCK I LOVE IT AAAAAAAAAAAAA
This was truly My Bakudeku Academia. Watching that final battle felt like a religious experience- as if I was watching the birth of Christ. Holy fuck if that really was the original ending, with Deku passing OFA to Kacchan, and the whole "Oh it actually stayed with Deku and Bkg got amnesia" didn't happen, this would have been a dramatically different story moving forward.
Horikoshi really loves Bakugou- like absolutely no question. The story following this kind of ending would be about him continuing OFA's legacy with the guilt of a thousand suns on his shoulders for "taking away" Izuku's dream. Izuku would have continued the hero course as an actual quirkless student. I would love to see aus of this being canon and continuing their story from there.
I'm guessing Nine here was supposed to be AFO, and he would basically be gone too. Katsuma is perfectly set up to be the next protagonist (I can already imagine him using Cell Regeneration as Super Regeneration- he could become invincible while also healing others. Incredibly amazing quirk).
NUMBER ONE COMPLAINT I HAD WAS ADDRESSED. THE REST OF THE CLASS ACTUALLY DO FEEL STRONG AND USEFUL AND EVERYTHING AS SHIT I LOVE IT AAAAAAAA
YES MY GIRL OCHAKO FINALLY HAS HER BIG MOMENT FLOATING SO MUCH DEBRIS!!! I'M SO HAPPY- EVEN JIRO, AOYAMA, SHOJI, TOKOYAMI AND MORE HAD LEGIT GOOD SCENES AND FIGHTS I'M SO FUCKING HAPPY YEEEEEAAAAAAAAHHHHHH THEY ARE SOOO COOLLLLL THEY GENUINELY GAVE IT THEIR ALL FUCK YEAHHHHH
(note. THAT WOLF GUY CALLED SHOJI UGLY- A FELLOW HETEROMORPH, CUS HE WAS PROJECTING HIS "MONSTER" ISSUES ON HIM HOW FUCKING DARE YOUUUUU)
THEY ALSO MAKE IT ACTUALLY MAKE MORE SENSE HOW THE WHOLE CLASS IS SEPARATED ON AN ISLAND TOGETHER AS A WHOLE CLASS THIS TIME TOO (and not just half like last movie). They even managed to tie it in to AFO, the LoV, and Hero Society. Like it actually feels more grounded and reasonable why the class would be here alone with supervision.
They even add hints of Touya Todoroki with him having a short battle with Endeavor, Hawks spying in the LoV, the HSPC head cameo, and other little things too. Man I loved this fucking movie I would watch it 10 more times right now.
#THIS WAS SRSLY MY BKDK ACADEMIA#I CANT IMAGINE HOW INSANE HORIKOSHI IS FOR IMAGINING THIS AS AN OG ENDING???#CUS WTF. IZUKU GENUINELY TRUSTS BKG SO MUCH IN WANTING TO BE THE NUMBER 1 HERO HES FINE WITH HIM HAVING OFA. WHAT#BKG WOULD BE ABSOLUTELY DEVASTATED AND WOULD DO THE SAME THING HE DID IN THE CANON ENDING NGL IF THIS HAPPENED#HE WOULD N O T LOSE IZUKU BY HIS SIDE BRO#IZUKU WOULD CONTINUE AND GRADUATE AS A LEGIT QUIRKLESS HERO EVEN EARLIER IN THE SERIES- WHAT THE FUCK LSKFJKJSD#OK IM JUST SO FUCKING HAPPY THEY GAVE OCHAKO MORE SHIT TO FLOAT LIKE GODDAMN#SHE WORKS SO WELL WITH TSU AND SERO HELL YEAH!!! IM SURPRSIED NO ONE DRAWS THEM TOGETHER MORE AS FRIENDS!!!#(guess I'm doing that now. tsk.)#I have moved on so much from my younger years bkg hate that seeing him succeed and do shit legit makes me so fucking happy-#thATS MY WINNING FIGHTING FUCKING KINGGGGGG#and Izuku being the absolutely selfless and darling sunshine he is and being so deranged in beating this dudes ass. always beautiful.#ily sm izukuuuu#also. brief TODOIIDA YAYYYYY THEY WERE SO BACK TO BACK IN BEATING THE CHIMERA DUDE LKSFLKSJK#yes kiri and tsu were also there and were Awesome- but u can tell its these two back to back#when iida reminds shoto to prioritize saving civilians with his hand on his shoulder yeAHHH thats their THEME RIGHT THEREEE#they both learned that together from deku and now are always fighting side by side fuck yeAHHHH#ok thats enough. i fucking love these movies. idc if theyre basic big selling fight scene crap and are shallow to most ppl#i care abt these kids and this world and its fucking heroes and villains n jackshit so much#if anyone stops me from enjoying this they can go suck their own dick and crack their neck trying. ha.#evelynpr bnha#bnha#mha#my hero academia#heroes rising#bkdk#bakudeku#izuku midoriya#bakugou katsuki
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What they're saying is s5 is going to have Hawkins High School as one of the locations for the plot. What I'm hearing is jealous Mike opportunities...
#byler#st5 speculation#will is seen as wanted by 3+ girls (1 being imaginary in mike's mind)#bc the protagonist (mike) is pining after him#how many movies/shows have you seen where the protagonist is in love with someone that everyone else wants?#it makes the person feel extra unattainable bc they could have anyone they want#which makes them getting together with the protagonist at the end feel all the more impactful#but after 4 seasons of girls hitting on will#i'm gonna need the final boss...#aka a boy#and mike witnessing it...#or another girl and mike witnessing it idc#will is just hilarious whenever it happens too bc he's like ummm i'm just a silly guy idk what's going on#but if it was a boy... that might be interesting#as much as i'm hoping for jealous mike#i think it's a lot more likely we're getting the party being hunted down#and will/mike being targeted in the case anyone catches wind of their queerness...#so...#let me imagine it's more lighthearted than that while i still can
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FOR THE STORY I'LL NEVER WRITE-
AU where Qilby comes back to life 2 years after the end of season 4.
HEADCANON :
He doesn't remember anything of his past lives until he's 5 - 6 years old. Not only because it sounds weird to have a very old soul trapped in a baby/toddler body (Even thought it could be funny at some point.) But also imagine the drama potential of a scene where a wild child suddenly remembers thousands years of studies, conflicts, wars, family issues, relatives deaths, being killed in the most brutal way sometimes, horribles things he did, a constant misunderstanding, and most of all, a terrible, deep and terrifying, solitude. In a few seconds only.
My idea is that he lives for a few years with Chibi, Grougal and Shinonome at Alibert's until this event. He calls this few years of peace the "Dormant period" (Despite the many nightmares, reminiscent panic attacks and anger crisis he has, sequels of his past lives.) He's a sassy little guy with a bright mind.
Then the "Break" happens. It can occurs at any moment around his 5- 6 birthday. A violent wave of souvenirs that let him empty and melancholic for a long time. Then... Qilby is just... Qilby.
Whatever he does then, it depends of the plot I didn't write but oh, I want to share more about it.
#Wakfu#wakfu qilby#Qilby#another fanfiction I'll never write#wakfu fanart#I imagine poor Alibert being like this teenager in the Indestructibles movie at the end#Because Qilby knows how to use his powers randomly when he is still a baby#Poor man
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h-how do you ever finish any of your work? genuine question because you seem to be productive despite your agreste syndrome and I need to learn your ways. but also how do you ever finish any of your work
unclear. last night i stayed up and finished a report worth 25% of my grade at about 5am, arrived on time for my 9am lecture, and spent about half of it zoned out while thinking about seventeen year old emilie agreste. and i was one of the most active participants in the class discussion
#in some ways it IS the move to go to grad school right out of undergrad#because your body can still sort of operate like a college kid#i’m on about 3ish hours of sleep rn and this morning it felt SO over but now i’ve eaten something and we’re so back#i also don’t really do caffeine. except sometimes i’ll go get one of those panera death lemonades#i might be able to snag a short nap before work#but anyway about seventeen year old emilie. i was thinking abt how she was in that movie solitude and adrien said she was seventeen#WAIT. NO. HE SAID SHE WAS SEVENTEEN IN THAT PHOTO ON HIS DESKTOP NOT IN THE MOVIE#well. okay whatever i’m gonna tell you what i was thinking about anyway#OKAY i’m back i just checked the wikipedia page and then i watched the end of gorizilla. to make sure i’m not lying. because i’m normal.#anyway i was thinking about the solitude film and how it’s super rare and old and obscure and whatever. and how apparently#emilie wrote it herself and andre produced it#and i’m thinking about how gabe was discovered by audrey and that’s how he got his start in the fashion industry#so now i’m like?? did gabe and emilie first meet on the set of solitude? because gabe was designing costumes or whatever?#and that’s how audrey found him? have people already thought about this??#also i just checked and it doesn’t say emilie’s last name in the credits and also it’s ‘graham films’ with the twin rings logo m#so i’m assuming she’s still emilie graham de vanily at that point#anyway it comes back to seventeen year old emilie because i started imagining seventeen year old runaway emilie having her new life in pari#after escaping her british nobility life#and the first thing she does is write and star in an original movie. of course.#and she meets this repressed bisexual punk upstart costume designer who is so the opposite of everyone she’s ever known#and he’s immediately so unhealthily obsessed with her. which she appreciates.#and then they proceed to have the most toxic doomed evil relationship of all time#also she gets cheated because once gabe gets money he represses himself SO hard that he is now exactly like all the people emilie grew up w#but at least he’s still obsessed with her#this is what i was thinking about during class today. i don’t know how i get anything done either.#ml#anna rambles#asks
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guys I don't wanna alarm anyone but we may break 5000 fics before the end of the year 👀🔥
#especially if we do secret santa this year too#shut up sissi#rebelcaptain#5k fics for characters with a single movie where they die at the end... incredible#i know sw being a big franchise and andor is a contributing factor here too but i just think it's really amazing how powerful they are#imagine if they actually had more than a single movie... they could fully rival the big sw ships
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do you think sherlock holmes enjoys the bee movie
#i remembered he rlly likes bees and i couldn’t sleep without posting#i imagine he’d talk all the way through about how innacurate it is#but get rlly unwillingly invested towards the end#bee movie#sherlock holmes#arthur conan doyle#bbc sherlock#sherlock & co#sherlock fandom#sherlockbbc#bees#sherlock
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Here’s a thought-
When Splinter says Leo’s the leader at the end of Season 2…pretty sure he was joking.
After so many high stakes and high emotions, he (a bit cluelessly) makes a joke to add some levity, just to make things a bit easier for he and his sons to digest everything that happened. It was a lot that happened, so it makes sense that Splinter wants to make things that much softer for everyone.
But- making a joke like that, after everything they all just went through…I can definitely see how the events of the movie pave out in response.
For example, by joking about Leo in particular having the responsibility of a leader, that puts him directly in the sight of Raph’s building anxieties. Because after everything, it’s clear that Raph really started taking the hero name seriously to the point that he started undermining his own fun and childhood in the process. So in the eyes of a Raph who is so worried about what could happen if they’re not prepared again, Leo in particular kind of stands almost as a point of danger in that aspect.
And with the joke of Leo “leading” in any capacity ringing out over them, it’s easy to blame Leo and Leo alone whenever he goes and goofs off with Mikey and Donnie. I think as well that the concept of a leader being spoken after the Shredder just pushes more weight on Raph’s shoulders and makes him realize how much goofing off they did before when they should have been better heroes (despite them all just being kids...)
Raph knows his brothers are good, he knows and has pride in them and himself in turn, but it terrifies him to know that they won’t be ready for the next big threat, and Leo directly going against this caution even more than usual just pushes Raph to want to try more.
As for Leo- keep in mind what happened all throughout “Many Unhappy Returns.” Keep in mind what happened all throughout the series in general. In the former, Splinter more than once points out how he would rather have his other sons with him than Leo, especially because they “would take this seriously”…even though Leo was taking it seriously. (Not that Splinter should be expected to read what Leo was doing when Leo wasn’t making his plans clear, but that wording sticks with kids.) Even after Leo’s plan pulled through, Raph’s the one who spoke in trust of Leo, not Splinter.
As for what happens in the series in general…well, we see Leo mess up a lot, apologize a lot, get his brothers out of messes a lot, and even when he does well or is responsible it’s either glossed over or still seen as goofing off (no I will never be over that moment where Leo almost got Gus’s tags and got screwed over out of pure bad luck.)
So imagine hearing a joke like that as Leo, who for a good chunk of especially the start of the series has been a lowkey voice of reason. The idea that Leo being responsible for the team is nothing but a joke…? It’s understandable that it could feel like a blow, that it could push him to want to try less.
Especially after everything they just went through.
They’re heroes. | They’re kids.
Why shouldn’t they care? | Why should they care?
#rottmnt#rise of the teenage mutant ninja turtles#rottmnt raph#rottmnt leo#rottmnt splinter#splinter is not a bad dad but words can always cause unintended harm especially to kids and teens#Leo being the voice of reason in Bug Busters only to be rewarded with a near death experience rip#if I was him I’d clock out too#side note but I actually really like how Bug Busters and the movie kinda parallel each other just with Raph and Leo’s roles swapped#(and obviously the movie is much higher stakes)#splinter: haha imagine blue as the leader wouldn’t that be funny#raph & leo: *speedrun into developing bad habits as a response*#shout out to Raph in the show’s finale he really stepped up#but then he just kept stepping until all he knew was being a hero and a team and not his own age 😞#Raph and Leo’s dynamic means so much to me it really does#both of them are self made caricatures at the beginning of the movie! not their true selves!! BOTH lean away from these masks at the end!
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