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spicylove4ever · 12 days ago
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Another Typical Fantasy Romance theory: what is the meaning behind the driving force of the original novel's plot?
So far, we know about the sinopsis behind the plot of the novel that tells the story she lives on the world she has been isekai-ed to.
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Lithera Merto, because of this, has to go to the capital to tell about this monster problem and solve problems around the world:
Pluck some special flower from the head of a giant snow monster.
Destroy a malfunctioning magical maze.
Slay a big sea monster on the southern sea.
The baby Calamity Dragon.
Either to be anounced or the Annihilation Dragon itself.
We know pretty much the all lore behind all those things. But what feels unclear is what appears before all these trials Lithera had to go through. And that is the monsters appearing on the south.
That was unusual because the monsters were always on the north, which is where the Termaine line resides to keep them in check along the vassals of that noble house.
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And they are very good on that, at least that we know, after all, they were praised a lot and considerated heroes for that matter. They were the shield of the north.
As for the Baby Dragon and the Annihilation Dragon, they both came from the southern sea, but we have the full lore of that: the Annihilation Dragon was sealed on the southern sea by the first Retum, and the Baby Dragon came from a scale of said dragon, so that checks.
The adult dragon, as opposite of the happenings on the novel, came from the north at first. Which implies the monsters have the north as their natural habitat, and a big one that came from there is not that weird, only the part that is extremely bigger which makes it a living calamity.
So as far as we know, those dragons have a clear lore, but the rest are more confusing.
Usually monsters stay on the north. So far as we know, is their habitat, but then more appeared on the south. Why is that?
What stands first on this is how it coincides with how both places were the big dragon is. North for the place it came from, and south for when it was about to resurge.
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There seems to be a relation here, but it's not clear which one.
There is not information about wether there was or not monsters on the north before the Annihilation Dragon arose from there. What we know is that they are still there, which is why the Termaines became a thing to begin with.
If we take the monsters as simple beasts that live according to mostly usual envioremental laws, then they are naturally from the north, where the more harsh conditions made creatures stronger for a more harsh enviorement. So far we have them as such: beasts bigger and even edible, and they can even be crossbred with more tame creatures. The only unusual thing that distiguishes them from usual animals is the magic stones that come from them (unless magic stones can be found on the carnivorses too?), and we know those are only from monsters because the Termaines and the north wouldn't be the supply of magic stones for the wizards and the Teikas. Or at least the main one.
In any case, all that is located to the north.
So why move to the south? What drow then there?
Was it the Annihilation dragon that was about to rise? Is it that they sensed, as much animals do when a calamity is close, what was on the way and then started to look for opportunities for new places to be or were they lured for another reason?
Or........... was it the other way around?
Let's think of something: there has always at least one person with royal blood with the power of miracles at least a little charged (since we know they can run out of that power as we saw with Pellus
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) to keep the monsters of the north at bay. This happened because:
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But then the Termaine house, as it grew too powerful and popular, gained animousity from the Royal Family, which made them restrain the Termain line, which resulted on:
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But the Termaines always resided on the North, along with the monsters, which were kept in check, or that was what it's supposed to be, since no more heroes appeared on the Termaine noble house, which resulted on Noathe's chosen ones. But those were not sent only to the north, but to do things for all places, or that's what is likely to be, since we don't know exactly what did those do, except for Lithera.
In any case, was that a sign that there was some sort of monster migration to the south?
After all, since there were no more heroes in the north, only those qualified to be, that might have allowed monsters to migrate and met the area where the Annihilation dragon was.
Was that something that set things in motion?
After all, Lithera had to step in to avoid the end of the world. There is nothing that says there was a chosen one as powerful as she was on her past life. She could have been one purposely sent for that task, so she had to be more powerful than the average hero.
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And what was that made Noathe decided to put her in that position to begin with? The Dragon was coming back, and that migration of monsters had something to do with it.
Either they felt drawn to the big dragon because they felt it awakening, or maybe they reawakened the dragon, since those are creatures with magic stones on them, which could have fed the weakened dragon.
If mages could extract magic for them to use from those, then the Annihilation dragon could do so.
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In any case, this is still just a theory, but it would explain why did Noathe wanted to keep the empire safe with his blooline, if the monsters left the north, they could have reached the dragon and revive it and only a great power could defeat that thing.
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the-overanalyst · 1 year ago
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it's always so fascinating and heartbreaking when a character in a story is simultaneously idolized and abused. a chosen prophet destined for martyrdom. a child prodigy forced to grow up too fast. a powerful warrior raised as nothing but a weapon. there's just something so uniquely messed up about singing someone's praises whilst destroying them.
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echo-stimmingrose · 1 year ago
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I have funny but first a quick history lesson
In Ancient Athens they had things called ostracons. Basically every year everyone would carve a name of someone they didn't like into a small stone tablet and then submit it. Then they would look at all of the ostracons and if there were too many of one person then they told that person to get tf out. They had ten days to flee Athens and couldn't come back for ten years.
So now I would like you to imagine Dionysus doing a pseudo version of this at Camp Half-blood every month because we all know he LIVES for the drama. (He's stuck there for a hundred years he might as well have some fun)
He would hand out stone tablets (it was very important to him that the names were carved don't ask why) and every person at camp would write a name.
Whoever had their name written down the most would be sent to live in a cabin in the woods for two weeks. If they survived they would be allowed to return to camp.
Mr. D always makes sure there's a crowd around to witness their walk of shame and he takes a picture of said person every month. He keeps them hung up on a wall in the big house.
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prompts-in-a-barrel · 3 months ago
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"You said you joined me because you believed I could save the world. That was a lie, wasn't it?"
"No, of course not. No one else could have rallied the people to our cause. The symbol you represent combined with your fervent idealism— you may as well be a god walking among them. They'd do anything you asked."
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theriu · 4 months ago
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YA adventure where an experienced adventurer gets hit with de-aging magic and becomes a teenager again, and almost immediately he gets pegged as the new Chosen One. He goes along with it so some ACTUAL poor kid won't be shoved into the role, and half the people involved expect him to fail or be easily manipulated but he (or she) keeps confounding them with a strong will and tactical experience. Unfortunately some of the other half start being like "Wow age really doesnt matter, the wizards WERE right to choose an Untested Youth!" and the Hero has to go "Now JUST A MINUTE--"
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izuku wants katsuki in his life so bad he literally entrusted him with the world's biggest secret to preserve their relationship and because he didn't want kacchan to think he lied to him for their entire lives.
"unlike deku, I know how to keep my mouth shut" yeah stfu bakugou, we all know you would tell deku, probably on purpose
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prankprincess123 · 11 months ago
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Legend of Zelda really heard the "what sort of being chooses an orphaned child/teenager as their chosen one?!?" moral quandary and answered repeatedly with "another orphaned child/teenager" and/or "his best friend who doesn't know who else to ask" and "his soulmate, who is in danger, again, and who's heart breaks every time she has to ask him to fight" and you know what? Those are the only valid answers ever.
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jonsnowunemploymentera · 2 months ago
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And remember kids, the next time someone tells you, "George R. R. Martin wouldn't make Jon Snow the typical fantasy hero because that's cliche".....
Oh yes he would!
One viewer wants to know what character would you play (on the show)? GRRM: If I could magically clap my hands and become a different person, it would be cool to play Jon Snow who's much more of the classic hero. Everybody wants to be the classic hero! ABC Interview, 2014
GRRM: And the character I’d want to be? Well who wouldn’t want to be Jon Snow — the brooding, Byronic, romantic hero whom all the girls love. Meduza Interview, 2017
In fact he already has ☺️
#asoiaf#jon snow#yes grrm has criticized neo-tolkein fantasy - a lot!#but like....dpmo#I need so many people in this godforsaken fandom to familiarize themselves with grrm's engagement with the genre#he isn't trying to say “chosen one boy protagonist bad” where tf did people get that???#he's directly trying to challenge the more unsatisfactory elements of lesser copies of tolkien's legendarium#the ones that lift lotr wholesale without actually understanding what makes tolkien's writing snap#at the same time he has admitted himself that he has borrowed from lotr albeit with his own twists#but people in this fandom need to know that ye old man LOVES sword-and-sorcery fantasy#he LOVES a good epic#he LOVES pulp fantasy and sci fi#and those inspirations are directly reflected in asoiaf#the way he's named arthuriana/lotr/MST and many pulp stories with brooding dark heroes as key inspirations#almost all of which have mcs who fall into the typical fantasy hero role#and they inspire elements that are reflected back onto jon more than anyone else in asoiaf#like seoman snowlock = jon (+bran)#frodo - who btw is the mc in lotr not aragorn!! = jon (and bran)#FUCKING KING ARTHUR IS JON SO MUCH SO THAT RLJ IS LITERALLY A 1:1 COPY OF ARTHUR'S BIRTH STORY LIKE??!!!!#anyone who's even a little bit familiar with le morte d'arthur will be like oh yeah jon is literally king arthur like 😭😭#same with anyone who's ready the once and future king - which grrm has directly identified as his fav take on arthurian lit#ntm that jon is based on some of the most prolific characters in arthuriana - percival/galahad/lancelot etc#did you know that there's an iconic sci-fi series whose main character is called Eric JOHN STARK?#well grrm has directly quoted that series and the mc as a foundational book in his life#funny that huh? 🙂#do people even know what tf they're talking about when they say stuff like this???? ajdhhjshsbvshja#grrm engages very heavily with traditional fantasy tropes but he of course provides his own spin on them#never has he said that he's trying to avoid stories with hidden princes or chosen ones as boy protagonists#like someone find me a direct quote of him saying that - but I bet you can't smh
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luck-of-the-drawings · 8 months ago
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[<==PREV PAGES] [NEXT PAGE==>(not out yet.wait a year.or maybe more.imagine.]
saw alot of comments on prev pages; saying 'i HATE that mean teacher! im gonna FIGHT HIM!!' & i LOVE the energy!! it WOULD be nice. to have that catharsis. but the story of young tidestrider is Not one of catharsis. it is a story of being so small and so special and sucking so bad.
#jrwi fanart#jrwi show#jrwi riptide#gillion tidestrider#GONNA START FORMATTING MY COMICS BETTER. W THE PROPER 'PREV' 'NEXT' LINKS#REALLY DIDNT EXPECT TO CONTINUE THIS SERIES BUT AAAUUUHH MY BRRAAAIN MY BRAIN IS SO IDEASSS. I HAVE 3 OTHER PAGES SKETCHED OUT#NO PROMISES ILL FINISH EM ANY TIME SOON OR EVER. MY WHIMS ARE THEIR OWN BEAST AND I ONLY DRAW ON MY WHIMS#THAT BEING SAID IF U COMMISSIONED ME ILL GEEETT TO YOUUU IM SORRYYYY. ART IS AN EMOTIONAL RELEASE FOR ME N BABY I HAVE EMOTIONS.#ESPECIALLY ABOUT GILLION TIDESTRIDER CHAMPION OF THE UNDERSEA HERO OF THE DEEP.for the desc here i put smth that i typed up in the tags of#another thing i made. i gotta make a proper Baby Gillion tag or smth. eventually.. eventually...I LOVE DRAWIN THIS LIL BABY GUY..#i also LOVE depicting the teachers as just being so fuckin mean. ofc theres variation in that. just like in all things.like the teacher her#idk if itll be mentioned but the octo lady is named Ms Octburn.an octopus pun based off the name of an actual councilor i had#when i was in elementary school i got bullied alot but teachers never did anything. i hated adults and didnt trust them.#but this councilor o mine was so genuinely sweet. i remember spending alot of time w her. she doesnt work there anymore.#but that one school adult that actually earns ur trust and is there for you when they can be.its SO important for a child i think#i hope she knows how much she helped me.youll see in the next page that ms octburn isnt perfect either.but she tries. they all try.somehow.#ALL these comics are gonna be inspired by somesorta experience o mine in the school system. school is so fucked up u ever thing abt that#AND GILLIOOOOONNN IN THE MOST FUCKED UP LITTLE SCHOOL OF ALL. MAINTAINED BY A CULT. CENTERED AROUND HIM. OUR CHOSEN ONE#I IMAGINE ALOT BANKS ON HIS SUCCESS. THIS IS THE WORLD. THE WHOLE WORLD. THE PROPHECY IS GOING TO COME TRUE N UR TELLIN ME#THAT ITS THIS LITTLE IDIOT THATS GONNA BE SAVING US? WHAT IF HE FAILS. IF HE CANT GET THIS RIGHT THEN HE WILL FAIL AND WE WILL DIE#WE NEED TO TRAIN HIM. WE NEED HIM TO LEARN. AND TO SUCCEED. OR ELSE WE'RE DEAD. WE'RE ALL FUCKING DEAD. I IMAGINE THAT MUST BE STRESSFUL#in other news i hope ppl actually giggle when they read these. they ARE intended to be comical. dark humor or whatever. like its also sad#this is intended to be a sad comic series. but a funny one too. does that make sense? god i hope so.saw some1 say they had flashbacks-#-reading this. like YES!! THE INTENDED EFFECT!! YOU GET ME!! i love seeing ppl get upset on this lil baby boys behalf. i LOVE seeing ppl-#-wail n weep n cry in the comments. i LOOOVE seeing ppl RELATE to baby gillion. and i love letting u all know that this wont be a happycomi#gillion gets his happiness arc in the actual show. this series is one of unfortunate events. teehehehe. do u guys remember that show#i keep listening to the lil songs from A Series of Unfortunate Events for inspiration. GOOD STUFF!!#anyway uuhh uhh thats all i got in my brain. for now. feed me ur comments give me ur input i NNEEEEEDD THHEEEMMMM
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nyanbinary-87 · 4 months ago
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hey wandersong fans. do you ever think about the baron. how, in so little time, wandersong clearly establishes four things: one, the baron fucked up an Entire Town. two, he did it trying to bring that town happiness, because it was once His community. three, hes kiwis father. four, they do not recognize each other.
do you ever think about how profoundly sad that is? the baron, presumably already estranged from his community, decided to try and bring it joy. he abandoned his wife and child to do so. he spent years, decades, even, working on his factory, his toys. but the factory fails. the community comes together, rallied by a bard he does not know, to tell him that hes done them wrong. that hes done something downright evil, even. he looks at a determined community he does not recognize, and backs down. he goes home to his wife, their child nowhere to be seen. thats to be expected, after decades. they must be an adult now.
and kiwi...ohhh the ways the baron parallels kiwi...the both of them, estranged from the communities they live in, doing whatever they can to bring the people around them joy, but its never enough. theyre never Part of the community. so they leave, on their own journey. one to save the world, one to save the town. and they fail! theyre not the heroes of their stories, no matter how hard they try. but kiwi went out making friends on their journey. kiwi has miriam to lift them up and help them out. the baron has no one, not anymore.
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nesperus · 1 year ago
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definitely not traumatized siblings
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man-down-in-hatchet-town · 1 year ago
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Maybe I'm just really tired by everything tonight but Lex's dead-end life is so important to me. No high school diploma but instead a criminal record before she turns twenty, a shitty minimum wage job with no health insurance that is just enough of a sinkhole to keep her from escaping, and a broke-ass apartment that's barely an improvement over her mother's broke-ass trailer. Her existence feels painfully small, limited, and doomed, and any parts that aren't are all about Hannah, not Lex herself. It's like, the whole world insists that Lex go nowhere fast.
And yet she is the only one we know of to twice get the better of a Lord in Black.
It's like... all of your power, all that potential and skill and gift, cannot alone save you from the giant circumstances of your life. And yet you still have it somewhere inside. And in the end it will have meant something.
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bora-in-tamriel · 7 months ago
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Sathlan Faloul adventures in Morrowind
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not included; one merchant in one of the fort places that just absolutely loves sathlan with max disposition that i decided is canon. he's just such a big fan. (flashbacks to adoring fan)
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robix9 · 4 months ago
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The ending is "MHA", but it's Alan Becker
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Kindly ask: Do not ask me questions about this art
For example, where does the Navy come from, what is Corndog Guy or Gold doing there and why are the Mercenaries with them.
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zelda-the-sacred-realm · 1 year ago
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Hero of Hylia
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I finally decided to finish this design, I thought about it more times because I wanted to keep it like the original but at the same time make it immediately clear that he is an important spirit, in fact this is the one and only divine spirit!
His task is to protect Hylia, his legend has been passed down through the millennia as the chosen hero who sacrificed his life to save the people remaining in the lands of Hylia.
This should be the final concept (unless I change my mind like the other 100 times it happened 😅)
Hope you like it! 💖
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maegalkarven · 1 year ago
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I just thought of the most hilarious next protagonist of Baldur's Gate saga.
(Note what most of the outcomes used as background info here come from the characters' "good" endings. Proceed with caution.)
A child of Durge and Gortash, killed inside their parent's womb when Durge denied Bhaal, resurrected alongside them by Jergal.
A child any of The Dead Three can lay a claim on because they are:
A child of previous chosen of Bane
A child of Bhaalspawn, a bhaalspawn themselves, albeit striped of that when Bhaal took his essence from Durge, killing them instantly.
DIED before even being born, so clearly Myrkul's subject.
Resurrected by Jergal, so there's ties to that as well.
Can be compelled to follow any of The Dead Three paths, or try to play them and set them against each other, or follow Jergal, or forge their own path.
Essentially a child with no fate.
Can look either as Durge (and be any race Durge presented as) or as Gortash.
The last possibility bringing unique encounters and dialogues and character never knowing they can use being Lord Gortash's child to their advantage or ppl they meet were their father's enemies and they need to dash.
Having ties to different fractions depending on who Durge romanced or if Durge not romanced anyone.
Being raised in Underdark if their parent ended up with Minthara.
Same with unascended Astarion, + lots of acquainted spawns in the Underdark.
Being raised in Hell if their parent went to Avernus with Karlach.
Being raised either in Waterdeep if Gale is their stepfather or with Duke freaking Ravengard as a step- grandfather.
Having ties with Selunites if Shadowheart is a woman they call mother.
Being raised in the nature and having Druids call them their own if Durge and Halsin were involved.
Being raised amongst githianki revolution if Lae'zel was their parent's choice of heart. Having their mother leading a rebellion against a god.
Having lots of unique content regarding that.
Possible companions include:
Arabella
Mol
Yenna
That girl who was kidnapped and eaten by auntie Ethel.
Mayrina's child.
A child of lady Janneth and Oscar.
One or several of Jaheira's grandchildren.
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