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navree · 1 year ago
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I was staring at some artwork on pinterest and I was thinking, it's interesting that the ASOIAF only pays attention to Aegon, Rhaenys, and Visenya as the Conquerers when there was technically FOUR Conquerers. Do you have any headcanons about the "Fab Four" after Westeros began to settle down? How do you think Orys got brought in on the plan to take Westeros? My favorite question is it's likely they believed Orys was their half brother - so why not try to give him a dragon?
I'd assume that the reason why he's not listed as one of Thee Conquerors is a) not technically being an acknowledged member of the family, only a rumored bastard and b) I think he was the only one of the core four that didn't have command over a section of the forces of the Conquest (Rhaenys appears to have had the nominal command of forces in the Stormlands, Visenya had command of the forces sieging the Vale, and Aegon was of course the commander of the force he had everywhere else, whereas Orys fought under Aegon in the first battle, and then under Rhaenys in the taking of Storm's End and defeating the Durrandons). There's also the fact that, despite being (ostensibly) family, Orys wasn't necessarily raised alongside Visenya and Aegon and Rhaenys, but more likely with his mother, and was a daytime companion for Aegon during his youth, whereas the three full-blooded siblings were literally all living in the same place morning, noon, and night (not to mention all the interconnectedness when you add in the marriage factor, which Orys wasn't a part of).
How Orys got brought into the plan to invade Westeros likely depends on which version of the story you go with. If you go with the official version that Aegon started seriously thinking of conquering Westeros after Argilac mutilated his envoy in response to Aegon offering Orys for Argella's hand, then Orys was likely in it from the beginning, since Aegon was offering to have him get married while spurning a marriage offer for himself, and would have been told that Aegon's offer was refused, especially in the manner that it was. If you think that Aegon was already planning an invasion and Argilac's rudeness was just a pretext, Orys was likely brought in once Aegon had finished the Painted Table and gotten the support of his sisters in the venture and was now starting to think logistics, given that Orys was already known as a puissant warrior and obvious Aegon's closest friend and one of the most trusted people in his life. If you subscribe more to the recent revelation that Aegon might have been a dragondreamer whose visions of the Long Night were what motivated his desire to unify Westeros, then Orys might have even been brought in before there was even a plan for invasion. Cuz honestly, if I was having nightmares about ice zombies literally running over the entire world but had no way to figure out when it was even supposed to happen, just that these visions were constant and felt too real to just be dreams, I would probably confide in my friends, and considering Orys was Aegon's only real friend, it's not unreasonable to think of a young Aegon, haunted by the future, confiding his sense of foreboding that something is about to happen to Orys if only just to let it out. After that, it's a simple matter of Aegon bringing him into the fold of people who get the honesty of his motivations once he starts planning the Conquest.
I like to think, in the years between the Conquest and the First Dornish War (my beloathed), that Orys actually spent a lot of time with Visenya and Rhaenys. We know that Aegon spent a lot of time on various different progresses throughout the realm in the early years, in order to make sure he didn't have any blind spots about the different cultures of Westeros, and that, while he was ultimately in charge, the day-to-day governance of the country was left to his sisters. And given that Orys was the Hand of the King, and therefore also in charge of a lot of governance affairs, I think that meant a lot of time was spent between the three of them just sorting stuff out. I also think he deliberately sought out Rhaenys when dealing with Stormlands related issues, even above Aegon, due to their time together attempting to defeat the Durrandons and the shared bond from that time and their knowledge of the landscape that they share together that Aegon and Visenya don't. I think Orys was one of the people most vocally offended by rumors of Rhaenys's infidelity, seeing as a slight against both Aegon and Rhaenys (painting Rhaenys as a slut and Aegon as a weak-willed cuckold), even while Aegon and Rhaenys didn't deign to respond to those rumors in any capacity themselves. I think it ties into a view I have where, despite him being the youngest in my opinion, he was very protective of all of his siblings, even Visenya who I don't believe he was the closest to, and I think it tied a lot into his identity and why he fell so far when he was mutilated in the First Dornish War. After all, without a hand he's not only unable to be Hand of the King, he can't raise a sword to defend his family, so then literally what is he for, what is the point of him? I also think they hung out as much as they could, all of them. I think that, whenever they were all four of them in one place, there was at least a once a week dinner, not only just to debrief on politics and rule stuff, but also just to be together and be a family. I think he and Aegon still hung out a lot one-on-one, that when Orys did want a sparring partner (before he lost his hand) and Aegon was free, he went to Aegon first, and that Aegon probably acquiesced more than he refused, in spite of his noted refusal to enter tourneys or recreational combat. Honestly, I think that Orys was the quintessential version of what people think a Baratheon is, basically Robert if he weren't a dogshit person, big and boisterous and loud and fun and filled with energy, and I think it helped him meld seamlessly with his family (as a companion to gentle and fun-loving Rhaenys, as a foil and drawing-out friend to reserved and introverted Aegon, even giving him a good dynamic with the more stern Visenya). I also think, if circumstances hadn't gotten in the way, he would have been the best uncle, would have loved carrying the kids around on his shoulders, teaching the boys all he knew about swordcraft and playfighting with them, exaggeratedly bowing and scraping to the girls if Aegon had ever had any daughters. While I don't think he was the glue of the family (that's Rhaenys) I think he was a lighter presence that helped with three very intense people with a lot riding on their shoulders and their bloodline, and a small part of why they were at their best in between the end of the Conquest and the First Dornish War, before everything went wrong.
As to why Orys was never given a dragon, I think it likely came from a mix of factors. Not every Targaryen was a dragonrider, even when they were at their peak, so it's possible that Orys just didn't attempt it, either because he never felt the need or had an aversion somehow (maybe he had a fear of heights, who knows). We also don't know how many adult dragons were available during their youths, other than Balerion and Meraxes and Vhagar, so it's possible there just weren't any dragons available for him after his three siblings had claimed their's, or if there were dragons, they were still young hatchlings and by the time they were grown, he'd just gotten more used to life without them. It's also important to know that dragons aren't things that can be given - they're sentient creatures, incredibly intelligent and incredibly temperamental. Part of claiming a dragon is not just on the rider, but also on the dragon, on the dragon accepting the bond and returning it in kind (as seen with Aemond Targaryen and Vhagar later). For all we know, Orys could have tried to claim a dragon, but the dragon rejected him, and he either kept trying and failing or he just never tried again. We don't know because an attempt by a bastard to do something that didn't even succeed, well before any of these people were famous enough to have dedicated chronicles, likely wouldn't have been recorded, and word of mouth would have been lost relatively soon afterwards. So it could have been attempted and just never written down, or just not attempted at all for a host of reasons.
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lotus-pear · 2 months ago
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charm stat at debonair ‼️‼️
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egophiliac · 6 months ago
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we were fucking ROBBED
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evelynpr · 3 months ago
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Congratulations My Hero Academia for providing, possibly, the biggest and longest legit straightbaiting yet in shonen history.
Bonus points that their final chapter was released on yaoi day.
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xxplastic-cubexx · 19 days ago
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finally finished This Wip from Ever ago and so now i ask you ever look into another dudes eyes and suddenly want to do whatever he wants
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hinamie · 4 months ago
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every so often i have to relearn how to draw yuuji or he starts fighting me
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sam-violet · 6 months ago
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chillin in the hot springs 🌱
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foxstens · 5 months ago
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kevin getting angry at neil for not taking his health seriously and telling neil to run then promising to teach him every night and keeping neil's binder safe without looking what's in it and calling wymack to make sure neil is okay after winter break and offering to talk about riko if neil wanted to
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crystaiskiess · 9 months ago
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my favourite bad kids 💕
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canisalbus · 5 months ago
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hey there! sorry to bother again, but I was in a animating mood, so I ended doing a short animation of Machete for practice. It's kinda messy since I havent done that for a while, but hope you like it!
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feroluce · 3 months ago
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I have finally finished 2.4 and oh my GOD watching Dan Heng be so protective of his friends nearly killed me, MY HEART.
And yes, the cutscene where he pushes the trailblazer out of the way and even cushions their fall with his own body, but I mean even before that! When he was already trying to protect them and March 7th from Feixiao and Lingsha!!
Because if you watch the dango trio throughout the main quest, you'll notice that they often position themselves in the same way, which is a detail that makes me super happy that Hoyo thought to include- when the three of them aren't evenly spaced, March 7th and the trailblazer tend to gravitate towards each other and stand very close together, frequently side-by-side. And by comparison, Dan Heng usually stands slightly away, and often even slightly behind them, where he can pull on their leashes to wrangle them keep an eye on them.
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This is probably a habit learned through experience, since March 7th said during Belobog she is the "queen of unannounced disappearances" fjdksajfkldjsak
And of course at least a little bit of it is just done for like, aesthetic purposes. It's a video game. Things have to look nice for the player. The trailblazer and Dan Heng are the same height, March 7th is a bit shorter, and Yanqing is even smaller. It makes sense to have the trailblazer and Dan Heng stand on the ends, with March 7th and Yanqing in the middle, it just looks nicer and more balanced that way. But still! Even when they're accommodating for Yanqing in this quest, they still all arrange themselves the same way, almost every time!
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But this changes after Dan Heng and Yanqing become suspicious of the visitors from the Yaoqing.
The dango trio still stand around relaxed and in their usual manner when they go to the artisanship delve and meet Skott,
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but Dan Heng takes notice of Lingsha when she arrives, and he and Yanqing mentioned her specifically when discussing their worries.
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Yanqing worrying so much about Jing Yuan got me right in the heart, he's such a good boy WEH
And when the four of them go out to the alchemy delve to meet Lingsha for tea, the pattern breaks. Suddenly Dan Heng is standing right up front, and even walks in and enters the scene before March 7th and the trailblazer to get to Lingsha before them. He stays a step in front of them the whole time, too.
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And then when Dan Heng and the trailblazer have to go be interrogated by Feixiao! The same deal! Dan Heng walks in ahead of them and stays in front of them! Noticeably so! Enough that even Feixiao takes note and voices it!
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Dan Heng is so so fiercely protective of his companions, and I love it, I adore hyper vigilance in the wake of trauma like this, I'm so excited to see what else he does in 2.5, I hope we either get to see him get fucked up or the trailblazer gets fucked up in his place, I wanna see them run through the meat grinder!!!
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qkmlh · 5 months ago
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I’m a simple soul
I see a hot blooded trauma fueled man with an ego and daddy issues become an unwilling single mother who then steps up after multiple trials and errors to grow into a proper parent that fights tooth and nail for his daughter AND face said daddy issues head on for the betterment of his child thus reconciling and healing his own relationship with his father and bringing an enthusiastic grandpa into the mix
and I crumble
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egophiliac · 1 month ago
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Hello ! I positively adore the running joke of Idia unknowingly finding Lilia to be the coolest guy ever whenever he doesn't know it's him, like when Silver described his father, or obviously with muscle red. I can't say what'd be funnier, Idia finding out his online best friend is actually Lilia, resident spooky hyper fairy; or them both never finding out, and it'd become even more ridiculous as time goes on. How do you think it'll play out ? You're always so on point
(Also, though it makes sense, I'm still devastated bat boy didn't get a ticket for the Halloween skeleton train : ( does anyone mentions him at some point ? Like how he'd have fit right in with all those Halloween town little freaks, and how he'd have impressed them with his spooks and scared techniques; after all he's been every Briar Valley's children worst fear on Halloween for centuries. I'm on the eng server and I didn't wanna spoil myself by watching the whole thing on youtube)
Have a nice day !
you and me both, Idia and Lilia being oblivious online BFFs (+ Idia being incredibly intimidated any time Silver brings up his jock gamer dad) is my favorite running joke/subplot. 🤝 it's SO good, to the point where I also am unsure if I actually want it to ever be resolved or not...maybe, like, as a post-canon stinger or something? everyone's standing around covered in overblot ink, and Idia and Lilia's phones go off at the same time...
(legit I do think this is part of why Idia couldn't be present for Lilia's dream, because for some reason Lilia decided he was going to just. embody his past self online. he probably quotes his own battle strategies or whatever in the middle of boss fights. Idia didn't pick up on the whole "oh how weird that we both live on a super remote island" thing, but he would spend thirty seconds listening to General Lilia describing siege warfare and be like "w-wait")
all that aside, however it does end up happening, I do see Lilia being very blasé and all "oh! cool!" about it. y'know, taking it very much in stride! and Idia...very much not.
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(can't tell if tumblr is going to chew this into illegibility or not, this will be a fun surprise ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ)
as for Lilia sadly missing out on Halloweentown shenanigans...he does get one little mention as part of an offhand reference to the light music club, but so far no one has brought up how this basically is just Lost In the Book of Liliatown (Sebek's been too busy yelling about not getting to be in the same group as Malleus). 😔 honestly though, it's probably for the best that he got left out, because he would just settle right in and refuse to ever leave. canon would shatter. we would miss out on all the delightful angst of episode 7 because Lilia is too busy eating poisonous shrubbery inbetween practicing his very best screams, and no one can pull him away from it.
(I can hope for a sequel next year though...)
#art#twisted wonderland#twisted wonderland spoilers#gentle spoilers but y'know. just in case#lost in the book with nightmare before christmas#hajimari no halloween#most of the kitchen scene was jade messing with the firsties and that was so delightful that i didn't think til after#that you'd think sebek would have made some kind of reference to lilia 'i lost my tastebuds in the war' vanrouge's quote-unquote cooking#ah well. jade being mean is more than entertaining enough#looking forward to more of it tomorrow!#god. lilia and idia though.#lilia is like. genuinely idia's best friend and neither of them have any idea#and idia keeps doing that 'ha ha what if we were friends out of game too? what if we met offline? jk jk jk uNLESS...👉👈'#and then he immediately chickens out because he's so convinced that crimson will hate him if they ever met irl#(meanwhile lilia is just like 'my online bestie is so cool :) la la la')#they are both so stupid and i love them so much#i've just realized that i actually do want them to find out each other's identities#because idia doesn't just go to school with his online bff#he ALSO goes to school with his online bff's extremely supportive and extremely socially-inept kids#idia is going to get invited to dinner at diasomnia and it's going to be SO awkward#silver is going to give a long formal speech thanking him for being a stalwart comrade and trusted warrior brother to his father#as sebek stews in jealousy that idia got to fight by lilia-sama's side >:(#while idia sits there like 'all i did was link him a video about lane control for his character class'#malleus will make such an effort to learn literally anything about online gaming and he won't understand a word of it#it will be SUCH a disaster and i very much do want it now
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ewwww-what · 7 months ago
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friendship so strong it grants you a sixth level spell slot. I have words to say.
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bulletproof-future · 3 days ago
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poorly-drawn-mdzs · 1 year ago
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Parallel Lines and Brothers.
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#poorly drawn mdzs#mdzs#wei wuxian#jiang cheng#lan wangji#lan xichen#jin zixuan#Does anyone else think about the tragedy of the parallel lines? Of characters who are parallel lines?#Of running the same course as someone. Of echoing each other in perfect synchronicity.#It's more than being a foil. It's about being on the same path and being so near to each other.#and yet parallel lines never intersect. They cannot meet each other despite their existence being tied to another.#I think the brothers tragedy is just as much of a tragedy of parallel lines as is pre-resurrection wangxian.#Jiang Cheng and Wei Wuxian spend so much time running side by side and yet - they cant close this gap between them.#Even if their relationship never recovers - they are forever tied together through their past. The good and bad and ugly.#All the things that are left unsaid between them. All the love and sacrifices they made for each other that are never shared. Parallel line#I firmly believe any post-canon material that would have them be indifferent towards each other is just...really doing them a disservice.#And dear god the Lan brothers. They certainly love each other! Its a far fonder fraternal relationship than jiangxian (/platonic)#They fool you by having you think they have a good read on each other. Lan Xichen certainly wingmans + advocates for lwj!#But lets not forget - Lan Xichen by the end is in the reverse situation and headspace as Lan Wangji by the end of this story.#Lan Wangji is more free and open than he has ever been. He's in love. He's married. He and wwx are intersecting lines.#& LXC who grew up with and lived the same path as LWJ - who even is said to resemble him visually - his parallel line - shuts himself away#Despite all the love LWJ has for his brother I don't think he ever manages to reach him.
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